Gnome 3

2011-04-05 Thread Virgil Brummond
Sorry if this has already been discussed. I was wondering what Debian has planned for Gnome 3 and the Gnome-Shell. Also if anyone was interested or looking forward to using it. I believe it is going to be released by upstream in under 24 hours. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lis

Re: Ubuntu Versions

2011-04-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Apr 5, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/05/2011 05:37 PM, Mark wrote: > [snip] >> upgrading. For all its flaws, one nice thing about Windows is that it >> has a 10-year (14-year for XP) support cycle, so while there may be >> service packs, etc., to the end user, the interface is

Re: question about bind9 from a clueless paranoid

2011-04-05 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110404_190551, Brian wrote: > On Mon 04 Apr 2011 at 07:13:57 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > But I can't find any information more recent than 2008 by > > googling. Surely there have been some more recent developments. > > What has happened? Surely something has happened, but I find nothi

Re: Hibernate error

2011-04-05 Thread Hoang Le
Hi Michael, How could I get that information ? On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Michael Ott wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Hoang Le! > > > I get error messages every time I hibernate my debian, something look > > like "LNXPOWER failed to thaw". > > Does anyone h

Re: Asus A8N-E - debian-amd64 hangs during installation

2011-04-05 Thread Andrew Reid
> I have box with sid i386 installed on it. > It has two disks WDC WD1001FALS in raid5 array (md0) > On md0 exists lvm. > > I tried to install debian-6.0.1a-amd64 but with no success :( I can confirm for you that Debian 6.0.1 will indeed run on this board, I was running it up until this past w

Apache child process crashes frequently

2011-04-05 Thread Basil Kurian
When our PHP application is deployed on apache, its child process often get crashed, creating coredump in errror.log. We are experiencing this problem in both Ubuntu and debian installations. Please see this error.log http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/589646/ . -- Regards Basil Kurian -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Tom H wrote: >On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. > wrote: >> Someone that doesn't necessarily want to upgrade on Debian's schedule. >> With Ubuntu, you can get 5 years, as opposed to Debian's ~3 years. With >> SLE* you can get 10 years. I'm not sure about RHEL, but I thi

Re: Ubuntu Versions

2011-04-05 Thread Freeman
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 06:15:26PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/05/2011 05:37 PM, Mark wrote: > [snip] > >upgrading. For all its flaws, one nice thing about Windows is that it > >has a 10-year (14-year for XP) support cycle, so while there may be > >service packs, etc., to the end user, the i

Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-05 Thread Freeman
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:37:16PM -0700, Mark wrote: > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:03:41PM -0400, Matt Harrison wrote: > > > > > > > > All fine pointshere you go: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Ubuntu Versions

2011-04-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/05/2011 05:37 PM, Mark wrote: [snip] upgrading. For all its flaws, one nice thing about Windows is that it has a 10-year (14-year for XP) support cycle, so while there may be service packs, etc., to the end user, the interface is virtually the same for 10 years. I realize that not upgradin

Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-05 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Someone that doesn't necessarily want to upgrade on Debian's schedule.  With > Ubuntu, you can get 5 years, as opposed to Debian's ~3 years.  With SLE* you > can get 10 years.  I'm not sure about RHEL, but I think it is roughly a SL

Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-05 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > 10. Can I install server packages on an Ubuntu Desktop installation > and vice versa? > > Yes – Ubuntu’s flexibility makes it easy. The Ubuntu software repositories > do not isolate packages to particular types of deployments. All th

Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-05 Thread Mark
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:03:41PM -0400, Matt Harrison wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. > > wrote: > > > On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote: > > >> > > >>Are we seriously going to argue about which version

Aptitude and apt-get curiosity.....

2011-04-05 Thread Charlie
Trying to satisfy a curiosity. I upgrade my Debian Wheezy system with aptitude and it upgrades all but one application file. Redo: "aptitude update" and it shows that file hangs around for several days and doesn't get upgraded when I do aptitude "safe-upgrade" after "aptitude update" each time d

Re: system-wide bogofilter, procmail, fetchmail

2011-04-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/05/2011 03:52 PM, Rob Owens wrote: On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 09:42:55PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] I set fetchmail to run from each user's crontab. Thus, each user feeds their own mail to postfix/spamassassin and then into maildrop automagically in each user's Maildir. That's an

Re: system-wide bogofilter, procmail, fetchmail

2011-04-05 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 09:42:55PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/04/2011 07:43 PM, Rob Owens wrote: > >I'm successfully using fetchmail, procmail, and bogofilter as my user, > >but I'm looking to set it up system-wide and have some questions. > > > >I'm running an IMAP server with accounts for

Re: FAT: Filesystem panic

2011-04-05 Thread Stanisław Findeisen
On 2011-04-05 09:46, George Chelidze wrote: > On 04/03/2011 12:23 AM, Stanisław Findeisen wrote: >> On 2011-04-01 13:06, George Chelidze wrote: >>> I'v got 2 boxes running squeeze and lenny, both up to date. On a box >>> with squeeze, I copied 1.8G images to a 2G flash drive and tried to move >>> t

Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-05 Thread Freeman
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:03:41PM -0400, Matt Harrison wrote: > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. > wrote: > > On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote: > >> > >>Are we seriously going to argue about which version of Ubuntu is > >>supported for how long? > > > > I think it

Re: Can I get some help with this? (Cleaning bad dependencies with APT)

2011-04-05 Thread Ken Ingram
1. I ran the autoremove since that was suggested after I ran "apt-get -f install". It would appear that it is a never-ending loop of poor suggestions to resolving the problem. 2. I'm from RedHat and rpm so I'm still trying to get a grip on apt while having a workable system. I'd like to get fa

Re: Asus A8N-E - debian-amd64 hangs during installation

2011-04-05 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Tuesday 05 April 2011 20:45:58 Kamil Jońca wrote: > I have box with sid i386 installed on it. > It has two disks WDC WD1001FALS in raid5 array (md0) > On md0 exists lvm. > > I tried to install debian-6.0.1a-amd64 but with no success :( > 1. Firstly I tried to install on prepared logical volume

Asus A8N-E - debian-amd64 hangs during installation

2011-04-05 Thread Kamil Jońca
I have box with sid i386 installed on it. It has two disks WDC WD1001FALS in raid5 array (md0) On md0 exists lvm. I tried to install debian-6.0.1a-amd64 but with no success :( 1. Firstly I tried to install on prepared logical volume - kernel oops (dmesg can be seen http://strony.aster.pl/kjonca/

Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-05 Thread Matt Harrison
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote: >>On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. >> wrote: >>> On 2011-04-05 12:07:16 George Standish wrote: On 05/04/11 01:04 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On 2011-04-

Re: Problem with time command

2011-04-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On 2011-04-05 11:40:51 Fabio Dellacorte wrote: >i want use option for time command but it doesn't work because intepreted >anything as argument : > >$time --version >bash: --version: command not found bss@dellbuntu:~$ time --version bash: --version: command not found real0m0.001s user0m0

Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote: >On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. > wrote: >> On 2011-04-05 12:07:16 George Standish wrote: >>>On 05/04/11 01:04 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On 2011-04-05 11:51:13 George Standish wrote: >> If you need more support tha

Re: iceweasel 4 process not closing on exit

2011-04-05 Thread Virgil Brummond
No problems! :) I think this package will phase out as per this bug report. So it might be better just to use QT Curve for now: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=617263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-05 Thread Matt Harrison
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On 2011-04-05 12:07:16 George Standish wrote: >>On 05/04/11 01:04 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >>> On 2011-04-05 11:51:13 George Standish wrote: > If you need more support than Debian provides and<= 5 years, install an >

Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On 2011-04-05 12:07:16 George Standish wrote: >On 05/04/11 01:04 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> On 2011-04-05 11:51:13 George Standish wrote: If you need more support than Debian provides and<= 5 years, install an Ubuntu LTS. >>> >>> Just to clarify, Ubuntu LTS releases are 5 years

Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...

2011-04-05 Thread George Standish
On 05/04/11 01:04 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On 2011-04-05 11:51:13 George Standish wrote: If you need more support than Debian provides and<= 5 years, install an Ubuntu LTS. Just to clarify, Ubuntu LTS releases are 5 years for the server version, 3 years for the desktop version. They

Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...

2011-04-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On 2011-04-05 11:51:13 George Standish wrote: >> If you need more support than Debian provides and<= 5 years, install an >> Ubuntu LTS. > >Just to clarify, Ubuntu LTS releases are 5 years for the server version, >3 years for the desktop version. They use the same repositories. What exactly is the

Re: Openoffice.

2011-04-05 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 12:24:20 -0300, Ezequiel Larrarte wrote: > Hi everyone, I ve reinstalled my computer with a fresh Debian squeeze > and now openoffice quickstart doesn't let me reboot my PC. I be been > reading that it's an openoffice bug, any news about this? Do you mean this? http://bugs.d

Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...

2011-04-05 Thread George Standish
On 2011-04-05 09:56:13 Mark wrote: If you need more support than Debian provides and<= 5 years, install an Ubuntu LTS. Just to clarify, Ubuntu LTS releases are 5 years for the server version, 3 years for the desktop version. George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.d

Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...

2011-04-05 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 11:42:42AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > If you need more > support than Debian provides and <= 5 years, install an Ubuntu LTS. That won't buy you that much AFAIK since the LTS 5 years support it's limited to the server version and doesn't include universe(?). Ok

Re: Problem with time command

2011-04-05 Thread Tom Grace
On 05/04/11 17:40, Fabio Dellacorte wrote: Hello everybody , i want use option for time command but it doesn't work because intepreted anything as argument : You may have better luck with the standalone "time" $ /usr/bin/time --version GNU time 1.7 $time --version bash: --version: command n

Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...

2011-04-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On 2011-04-05 09:56:13 Mark wrote: >Hypothetically if a user doesn't want to upgrade to Squeeze, what would they >have to do once Lenny stops being supported by Debian? Eventually, they will get owned and become a zombie that SPAMs (or worse) the rest of us. Depending on the amount of effort you

Problem with time command

2011-04-05 Thread Fabio Dellacorte
Hello everybody , i want use option for time command but it doesn't work because intepreted anything as argument : $time --version bash: --version: command not found Thank you

Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...

2011-04-05 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 07:56:13 -0700, Mark wrote: > Hypothetically if a user doesn't want to upgrade to Squeeze, what would > they have to do once Lenny stops being supported by Debian? The user should track security flaws by himself and apply the patches (which usually involves compiling). > L

Re: Installing Squeeze: Cannot choose time zone (two issues)

2011-04-05 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 13:16:19 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Issue One: > I prefer to install Linux distros in English then configure each user > for his own language. While installing Squeeze I do not have the choice > of a time zone for Israel, only US time zones. The installer mentions > that to di

Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...

2011-04-05 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 05. 04. 2011 16:56:13 je Mark napisal(a): Hypothetically if a user doesn't want to upgrade to Squeeze, what would they have to do once Lenny stops being supported by Debian? Let's assume the machines are used primarily for web surfing, including using flash. Would they need to install

Re: [OT] Re: OpenOffice.org - how to install additional languages?

2011-04-05 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 17:39:33 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/04/2011 11:35 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:03:51 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >>> On 04/04/2011 09:34 AM, Camaleón wrote: [snip] here in Spain :-P. Of course the official language(s) of every country is the o

Re: Hibernate error

2011-04-05 Thread Michael Ott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Hoang Le! > I get error messages every time I hibernate my debian, something look > like "LNXPOWER failed to thaw". > Does anyone have this error? Can you send us more information: System, Kernel, PC CU Michael - -- ,''`. : :' : Mich

Openoffice.

2011-04-05 Thread Ezequiel Larrarte
Hi everyone, I ve reinstalled my computer with a fresh Debian squeeze and now openoffice quickstart doesn't let me reboot my PC. I be been reading that it's an openoffice bug, any news about this? Another strange thing is that everytime I open a document from the my samba server using smb://user@se

Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...

2011-04-05 Thread Leonardo Ruoso
security updates protocol updates (IPv6 is comming to town) most users deal better with smaller and incremental interface changes 2011/4/5 Mark > Hypothetically if a user doesn't want to upgrade to Squeeze, what would > they have to do once Lenny stops being supported by Debian? Let's assume >

Re: Android / Rythymbox

2011-04-05 Thread Peter Beck
On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 09:14 +0100, Michael Thompson wrote: > It is visible as a mounted drive in gnome, and I can access it without > issue. However Rythmbox, banshee et all will not show it. And I dont > have a clue where to start to see why. Anyone come across this > before? I've had a similar

Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...

2011-04-05 Thread Mark
Hypothetically if a user doesn't want to upgrade to Squeeze, what would they have to do once Lenny stops being supported by Debian? Let's assume the machines are used primarily for web surfing, including using flash. Would they need to install Firefox manually once Lenny stops getting updates for

Re: Installing Squeeze: Cannot choose time zone (two issues)

2011-04-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Dotan Cohen wrote: Issue One: I prefer to install Linux distros in English then configure each user for his own language. While installing Squeeze I do not have the choice of a time zone for Israel, only US time zones. The installer mentions that to display other time zones I must change language

Re: no bootable device

2011-04-05 Thread ZHAO Lina
Follow the http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook/DebianInstallTutorial I can't install during install programs to HDD in chroot: " aptitude install gptsync grub-pc vim mc parted os-prober On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:22 PM, ZHAO Lina wrote: > due to failed to detect ethernet card and I only used a smal

Re: no bootable device

2011-04-05 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 05/04/11 16:22, ZHAO Lina wrote: due to failed to detect ethernet card and I only used a small CD, so I failed to install above package. after installation, I met something like, no bootable device --insert boot disk and press any key. is your computer a Mac Intel computer ? How can I

no bootable device

2011-04-05 Thread ZHAO Lina
due to failed to detect ethernet card and I only used a small CD, so I failed to install above package. after installation, I met something like, no bootable device --insert boot disk and press any key. How can I go to proceed further, Thanks ahead, lina P.S I installed the GRUB on MBR

debian installation

2011-04-05 Thread ZHAO Lina
Hi, By careless, during the first trial of installation, I tried the chroot /target but later the first trial was failed, but on the second time of installation, it showed me some weird mistakes in the installation of base system. seems something relevant to it. How can I change /target back t

Re: [OT] Re: OpenOffice.org - how to install additional languages?

2011-04-05 Thread Christopher Judd
On Monday 04 April 2011 18:39:33 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/04/2011 11:35 AM, Camaleón wrote: > ... > > > > You mean I can enforce, for example, a trial to be driven in Spanish| > > French|Japanese|... in any of the states? > > There is no official language of the United States. People at the

Debian on a Macbook (Leopard): Xorg installation leads to blank screen on reboot

2011-04-05 Thread Arvind
Hello, I am trying to install debian squeeze amd64 on my girlfriend's macbook. It already has OS X installed, so this is a dual boot system. Following are the hardware specifications: System: Apple macbook, Intel core 2 duo - T8100 @ 2.10GHz, 1 GB RAM As explained on the debian wiki: http://wiki

Re: Installing Squeeze: Cannot choose time zone (two issues)

2011-04-05 Thread 张启德
2011/4/5 Dotan Cohen : > Issue One: > I prefer to install Linux distros in English then configure each user > for his own language. While installing Squeeze I do not have the > choice of a time zone for Israel, only US time zones. The installer > mentions that to display other time zones I must cha

Looking for experienced programmers (PHP, Java Script, Drupal)

2011-04-05 Thread inc montecarlo
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Re: mounting multipath volumes with /etc/fstab

2011-04-05 Thread mikie mike
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Gilles Mocellin wrote: >> I tried this but ran into troubles at initrd level >> When booting after installing multipath-tools-boot i get something like: >> mount: Mounting /dev/sda1 on /root failed: Device or resource busy > I think I had some problems too. > I wa

Re: Installing Squeeze: Cannot choose time zone (two issues)

2011-04-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 13:43, George Chelidze wrote: > try > > # dpkg-reconfigure tzdata > Thanks, George, or course I realise that I can reconfigure after the install. The problem is not "how to install" but rather "how can this situation be fixed". Surely there is reason to fix these bugs, no?

Re: Installing Squeeze: Cannot choose time zone (two issues)

2011-04-05 Thread George Chelidze
On 04/05/2011 02:16 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: Issue One: I prefer to install Linux distros in English then configure each user for his own language. While installing Squeeze I do not have the choice of a time zone for Israel, only US time zones. The installer mentions that to display other time zone

Installing Squeeze: Cannot choose time zone (two issues)

2011-04-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
Issue One: I prefer to install Linux distros in English then configure each user for his own language. While installing Squeeze I do not have the choice of a time zone for Israel, only US time zones. The installer mentions that to display other time zones I must change language. This is absurd. Is

Re: How to run a command as root when I shutdown system automatically ?

2011-04-05 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 11:57:31AM +0800, waterloo wrote: >How to run a command as root when I shutdown system automatically ? >I use Debian 6 amd64. Make it an init script that is only called in runmodes 0 (for shutdown) and 6 (for reboot)? I think the proper way to do this would be to se

Re: FAT: Filesystem panic

2011-04-05 Thread George Chelidze
On 04/03/2011 12:23 AM, Stanisław Findeisen wrote: On 2011-04-01 13:06, George Chelidze wrote: I'v got 2 boxes running squeeze and lenny, both up to date. On a box with squeeze, I copied 1.8G images to a 2G flash drive and tried to move them to my lenny box. After mounting a drive (hal) on a len