Re: [OT] Hard Drive Energy Not Worth Conserving drives?

2011-01-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> # hdparm -I /dev/sdc | grep "Sector size" >> Logical Sector size: 512 bytes >> Physical Sector size: 4096 bytes > This is reported by the drive to hdparm. Only the 512 is used by the > kernel. It has no knowledge of the 4KB physical block size and can't > u

Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?

2011-01-11 Thread Bob
On 01/06/2011 12:50 AM, Patrick Ouellette wrote: Zeroth rule of support - never trust your user's to tell you the entire story (corollary - people lie about what happened) First rule of support - before deleting *anything* make a backup copy yourself Ding Ding Ding, I usually use dd &or ntfsim

Re: USB key requirement.

2011-01-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> The eToken is basically a smartcard that plugs into USB. > I still don't really understand the difference apart from it containing > a key that I match against. Which is in essence what I was asking to > do with a USB block device which looks much cheaper than the eToken. Typically, the differ

Re: Re (4): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-11 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue January 11 2011 19:23:50 PETER EASTHOPE wrote: > r...@dalton:/etc/openvpn# ip addr show I don't see the OpenVPN tunnel. What happens on "/etc/init.d/openvpn start"? FWIW, I use "dev tun0" (or "dev tunN" for some N) instead of "dev tun" in the OpenVPN config. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?

2011-01-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> I have no idea what makes you so angry against "green" drives. > I am against using any drive, at this time, in Linux, with a native > sector size other than 512 bytes. Again, I fail to see why you're so emotional about it. I understand you don't recommend people buy such drives unless they kn

Re: o/t ipod

2011-01-11 Thread Sean Keane
Sharepod Free application to transfer music and video files from an iPod/iPod Touch/ iPhone to a PC. Try running it in wine, or use a VM. On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 09:17, Thomas H. George wrote: > On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 04:27:16PM +0100, Klistvud wrote: > > Dne, 27. 12. 2010 18:43:06 je Camal

Audio from browsers correctly routed (2 audio cards, same box)

2011-01-11 Thread Bruno Buys
Hi all, I just configured a multiseat computer ( https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Multiseat_configuration) using my squeeze machine and help from the pt-debian-users list. Very nice, now I can share it with my wife. Everything is working ok, except for one detail: I have no idea how t

Re (4): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-11 Thread PETER EASTHOPE
From: Bob Proulx Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:55:10 -0700 > x: echo foo | nc -u y 1149 > > You should see that show up in your tcpdump traces. You've tried this on your system? Or least can detect the datagram leaving the orginating system? From: Mike Bird Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:39:

Re: piping find to zip -- with spaces in path

2011-01-11 Thread Doug
On 01/11/2011 08:46 PM, Robert Blair Mason Jr. wrote: On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:53:33 -0700 Bob Proulx wrote: Robert Blair Mason Jr. wrote: Rob Owens wrote: I tried this and it successfully creates myfile.zip: find ./ -iname "*.jpg" -print | zip myfile -@ But it fails if there are spaces in

Re: piping find to zip -- with spaces in path

2011-01-11 Thread Robert Blair Mason Jr.
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:53:33 -0700 Bob Proulx wrote: > Robert Blair Mason Jr. wrote: > > Rob Owens wrote: > > > I tried this and it successfully creates myfile.zip: > > > > > > find ./ -iname "*.jpg" -print | zip myfile -@ > > > > > > But it fails if there are spaces in the path or filename.

Re: piping find to zip -- with spaces in path

2011-01-11 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, Andrew McGlashan wrote: Rob Owens wrote: I tried this and it successfully creates myfile.zip: find ./ -iname "*.jpg" -print | zip myfile -@ But it fails if there are spaces in the path or filename. How can I make it work with spaces? Does this work: find ./ -iname "*.jpg" -print0 | xa

Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-11 Thread John Hasler
Bob writes: > They do consume memory and cpu scheduling queue resources. I wrote: > Very little, due to shared memory and copy-on-write. Stan writes: > In this case I don't think all that much memory is shared. Each > process' data portion is different as each processes a different > picture fil

Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?

2011-01-11 Thread Greg Trounson
On 11/01/11 01:26, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Stefan Monnier put forth on 1/9/2011 10:42 PM: I have no idea what makes you so angry against "green" drives. I am against using any drive, at this time, in Linux, with a native sector size other than 512 bytes. The Linux partitioning tools still do no

Finding kernel modication that caused the boot failure using git-bisect?

2011-01-11 Thread Tech Geek
Back in the days when Debian repo had the linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-686_2.6.30-8~bpo50+2_i386.deb kernel, I had installed on my PC. Now I have installed the current kernel package from lenny-backports -- linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.5-686_2.6.32-29~bpo50+1_i386.deb. The problem is that the old 2.6.30 ker

Re: [OT] Hard Drive Energy Not Worth Conserving drives?

2011-01-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Robert Holtzman put forth on 1/11/2011 5:45 PM: > I said this was the end > of the OT wrangling and I meant it. If that's the case, then why did you respond again? And why are you responding yet again, to this? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
John Hasler put forth on 1/11/2011 4:12 PM: > Bob writes: >> They do consume memory and cpu scheduling queue resources. > > Very little, due to shared memory and copy-on-write. In this case I don't think all that much memory is shared. Each process' data portion is different as each processes a

Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Bob Proulx put forth on 1/11/2011 3:08 PM: > Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Camaleón put forth: >>> real1m44.038s >>> user2m5.420s >>> sys 1m17.561s >>> >>> It uses 2 "convert" proccesses so the files are being run on pairs. >>> >>> And you can even get the job done faster if using -P8: >>

Re: [OT] Hard Drive Energy Not Worth Conserving drives?

2011-01-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47:01AM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Robert Holtzman put forth on 1/11/2011 1:44 AM: > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 04:44:13AM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > >> Interesting advice Bob. Practice it. > > > > I did. Read your post again, especially the part that says "This

Re: [OT]: Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-11 Thread Dan Serban
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:18:48 -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Dan Serban put forth on 1/10/2011 7:52 PM: > > On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:04:19 -0600 > > Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > > [snip] > >> http://www.hardwarefreak.com/server-pics/ > > > > Which gallery system are you using? I quite like it. > >

Re: Directory synchronization packages

2011-01-11 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 17:37 -0500, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > Hello, all. We are looking for a Lenny/Squeeze package to synchronize > directories between our physical desktops and our X2Go (www.x2go.org) / > Trinity (KDE3 - trinity.pearsoncomputing.net) based virtual desktops via > sshfs and ha

Re: Squeeze: Gnome icons missing

2011-01-11 Thread Freeman
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:48:05PM +, Zeissmann wrote: > > Your Gnome is probably not the same version number as the online manual > > refers to. Gnome changes all the time. > > > This might be so. But then again my local manual (help stuff) says > exactly the same thing. And still I don't k

Re: Squeeze: Gnome icons missing

2011-01-11 Thread Zeissmann
> Your Gnome is probably not the same version number as the online manual > refers to. Gnome changes all the time. This might be so. But then again my local manual (help stuff) says exactly the same thing. And still I don't know how to set those icons. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-

Re: [OT] Hard Drive Energy Not Worth Conserving drives?

2011-01-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Jochen Schulz put forth on 1/11/2011 12:58 PM: > Stan Hoeppner: >> Jochen Schulz put forth on 1/11/2011 3:19 AM: >> >>> And those pesky 4k blocks will never take hold. 512 bytes were a good >>> idea in the 1950s, so what's wrong with it now!? >> >> 4KB blocks are great. Too bad these drives report

Re: USB key requirement.

2011-01-11 Thread Dan Serban
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:52:06 +0100 deloptes wrote: > > > > > My case is different in the sense that I'm not decrypting my block > > volumes, just halting a boot sequence. > > > > There is something wrong with the setup of your case. > > If you are doing a diskless boot from a share ... how c

Re: Re (3): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-11 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue January 11 2011 14:09:09 PETER EASTHOPE wrote: > OK. Seems that somehow I've managed to disable port > 1194 or tcpdump. Anything interesting in the /etc/openvpn/*, or in the output of "iptables-save" or of "route -n" or of "ifconfig"? (Post them here if there's nothing private.) --Mike B

Re: ktorrent in sid

2011-01-11 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue January 11 2011 14:06:59 deloptes wrote: > Something brought me to this when reading " lenny -> squeeze with trinity" > by Mike > > One thing I'm missing not in trinity but in debian sid is ktorrent. is it > really not working? Because it is not working for me since I've upgraded to > kde4.

Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-11 Thread John Hasler
Bob writes: > Another negative is that other tasks then suffer. That's what group scheduling is for. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8

Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-11 Thread John Hasler
Bob writes: > They do consume memory and cpu scheduling queue resources. Very little, due to shared memory and copy-on-write. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

eagle CAD

2011-01-11 Thread Wayne Topa
Hi Guys & Gals I haven't used eagle in many moons and have a need to use it for a new project. ISTR that my installation "used' to autoroute the board but I can't seem to get the latest testing version does not autoroute. I 'think' that there was a way to run eagle, as root, the first time

ktorrent in sid

2011-01-11 Thread deloptes
Something brought me to this when reading " lenny -> squeeze with trinity" by Mike One thing I'm missing not in trinity but in debian sid is ktorrent. is it really not working? Because it is not working for me since I've upgraded to kde4. It seems I can not use it with a proxy server. Is there a

Re (3): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-11 Thread PETER EASTHOPE
From: Bob Proulx Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:55:10 -0700 > They don't reach the external interface? That is an excellent clue. > But I think it might be a problem trying to have traceroute do it. > ... try netcat instead. At work now and this happens on Dalton. 142.103.107.138 is carnot.yi.

Re: lenny -> squeeze with trinity

2011-01-11 Thread deloptes
Mike Bird wrote: > Please contact me on list or off if I can be of any further > assistance. thank you for the compact information. I'm preparing a trinity on top of squeeze for further use of kde3. One problem I had was with tora+oracle and the other with kplayer using a dvbt card. I had to com

Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Camaleón put forth on 1/11/2011 9:38 AM: > I supposed you wouldn't care much in getting a script to run faster with > all the available core "occupied" if you had a modern (<4 years) cpu and > plenty of speedy ram because the routine you wanted to run it should not > take many time... unless yo

Re: piping find to zip -- with spaces in path

2011-01-11 Thread Bob Proulx
Robert Blair Mason Jr. wrote: > Rob Owens wrote: > > I tried this and it successfully creates myfile.zip: > > > > find ./ -iname "*.jpg" -print | zip myfile -@ > > > > But it fails if there are spaces in the path or filename. How can I > > make it work with spaces? > > I think the best way wou

Re: USB key requirement.

2011-01-11 Thread deloptes
> > My case is different in the sense that I'm not decrypting my block > volumes, just halting a boot sequence. > There is something wrong with the setup of your case. If you are doing a diskless boot from a share ... how could you use a device (usb or something else) to authenticate before th

Re: piping find to zip -- with spaces in path

2011-01-11 Thread Robert Blair Mason Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:50:19 -0500 Rob Owens wrote: > I tried this and it successfully creates myfile.zip: > > find ./ -iname "*.jpg" -print | zip myfile -@ > > But it fails if there are spaces in the path or filename. How can I > make it work with spaces? > > Thanks > > -Rob > I think the

Re: Squeeze. How to set video res to 1366x768 in pure console?

2011-01-11 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 11. 01. 2011 22:13:58 je Mark Goldshtein napisal(a): One thing to mention, I am running # update-grub2 instead of update-grub. Is it wrong? AFAIR I have installed GRUB2 during Squeeze installation process. Check out where update-grub2 points to -- it's probably a shell script that just

Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-11 Thread Bob Proulx
Camaleón wrote: > No... I guess this is quite similar to the way most of the daemons do > when running in background and launch several instances (like "amavisd- > new" does) That is an optimization to help with the latency overhead associated with forking processes. In order to reduce the respo

Re: Squeeze. How to set video res to 1366x768 in pure console?

2011-01-11 Thread Mark Goldshtein
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Phil Requirements wrote: > On 2011-01-09 23:28:58 +, Phil Requirements wrote: >> On 2011-01-09 23:11:29 +0300, Mark Goldshtein wrote: >> > As an experiment, from googling, I have added this: >> > >> > GRUB_GFXMODE=1366x768x32 >> > GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1366x768

Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-11 Thread Bob Proulx
Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Camaleón put forth: > > real1m44.038s > > user2m5.420s > > sys 1m17.561s > > > > It uses 2 "convert" proccesses so the files are being run on pairs. > > > > And you can even get the job done faster if using -P8: > > > > real1m25.255s > > user

Re: Squeeze: Gnome icons missing

2011-01-11 Thread Krzysztof Bieniasz
> I don't quite see how it's done. I looked into the Gnome online manual > and it says something about turning the icons on under Appearance -> > Interface preferences. The thing is I don't have this tab under > Appearance -- on neither computer. So maybe I'm missing some package? Sorry for this o

Re: Squeeze: Gnome icons missing

2011-01-11 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 11. 01. 2011 20:49:31 je Zeissmann napisal(a): > I turn them on by running gconf2 or the configuration editor and > navigating to Desktop -> Gnome - Interface and checking > "buttons_have_icons" and "menus_have_icons". I don't quite see how it's done. I looked into the Gnome online manual a

Re: Squeeze: Gnome icons missing

2011-01-11 Thread Zeissmann
> I turn them on by running gconf2 or the configuration editor and > navigating to Desktop -> Gnome - Interface and checking > "buttons_have_icons" and "menus_have_icons". I don't quite see how it's done. I looked into the Gnome online manual and it says something about turning the icons on under

Re: Squeeze: Gnome icons missing

2011-01-11 Thread Zeissmann
> I turn them on by running gconf2 or the configuration editor and > navigating to Desktop -> Gnome - Interface and checking > "buttons_have_icons" and "menus_have_icons". I don't quite see how this is done. I looked into the Gnome manual and it says something about turning the icons on. The thin

Re: [OT] Hard Drive Energy Not Worth Conserving drives?

2011-01-11 Thread Jochen Schulz
Stan Hoeppner: > Jochen Schulz put forth on 1/11/2011 3:19 AM: > >> And those pesky 4k blocks will never take hold. 512 bytes were a good >> idea in the 1950s, so what's wrong with it now!? > > 4KB blocks are great. Too bad these drives report 512B blocks to the kernel, > which is what causes th

Re: [OT] Hard Drive Energy Not Worth Conserving drives?

2011-01-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Jochen Schulz put forth on 1/11/2011 3:19 AM: > And those pesky 4k blocks will never take hold. 512 bytes were a good > idea in the 1950s, so what's wrong with it now!? 4KB blocks are great. Too bad these drives report 512B blocks to the kernel, which is what causes the problem. "Advanced forma

Re: [OT] Hard Drive Energy Not Worth Conserving drives?

2011-01-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Robert Holtzman put forth on 1/11/2011 1:44 AM: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 04:44:13AM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Interesting advice Bob. Practice it. > > I did. Read your post again, especially the part that says "This is > because of your liberal political leanings...". Yes. I called black

Re: Basic questions about Debian package tools

2011-01-11 Thread Lisi
On Monday 10 January 2011 12:04:27 pt3...@gmail.com wrote: > Is it true I should avoid APT and use some other frontend or, better, > dpkg directly? > I tried aptitude, but I don't like ncurses-based tools. I prefer the > classic command line if possible. I have used aptitude on the command line si

Re: [OT] Hard Drive Energy Not Worth Conserving drives?

2011-01-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net put forth on 1/10/2011 11:29 PM: > > I think what we mainly should take from all this is Western Digital sucks and > we should never buy their crap... > > I know there are some who will disagree with this, so no flames needed... Not a flame at all here. Totally agre

Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-11 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 07:13:47 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Camaleón put forth on 1/10/2011 2:11 PM: > >> I used a VM to get the closest environment as you seem to have (a low >> resource machine) and the above command (timed) gives: > > I'm not sure what you mean by resources in this context. M

Re: [OT]: Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Dan Serban put forth on 1/10/2011 7:52 PM: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:04:19 -0600 > Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > [snip] >> http://www.hardwarefreak.com/server-pics/ > > Which gallery system are you using? I quite like it. That's the result of Curator: http://furius.ca/curator/ I've been using it fo

Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Camaleón put forth on 1/10/2011 2:11 PM: > Did'nt you run any test? Okay... (now downloading the sample images) Yes, or course. I just didn't capture results to file. And it's usually better if people see their own results instead of someone else' copy/paste. >> 2. On your dual processor, or

Re: Squeeze: Gnome icons missing

2011-01-11 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:35:12 -0800, Alan Ianson wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:00:13 + (UTC) Zeissmann wrote: >> Recently I've installed Debian Squeeze with Gnome on a new laptop. >> Unfortunately I'm missing some of the icons. Namely missing are those >> under the System menu and all of tho

Re: Autorun installation CD

2011-01-11 Thread Juha Tuuna
On 11.1.2011 11:41, Kousik Maiti wrote: > Hi List, > I want to create a CD that can run automatically on Linux system and start > installation from a .jar file. Is it possible? I googled it but don't get any > proper answer. > > Thanks in advance. Hi, afaik Gnome and KDE run CDs automatically (i

Re: Autorun installation CD

2011-01-11 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 03:11:57PM +0530, Kousik Maiti wrote: >Hi List, >I want to create a CD that can run automatically on Linux system and start >installation  from a .jar file. Is it possible? I googled it but don't >get any proper answer. Freedesktop-compliant machines suppor

Autorun installation CD

2011-01-11 Thread Kousik Maiti
Hi List, I want to create a CD that can run automatically on Linux system and start installation from a .jar file. Is it possible? I googled it but don't get any proper answer. Thanks in advance. -- Wishing you the very best of everything, always!!! Kousik Maiti(কৌশিক মাইতি) Registered Linux Us

Re: [OT] Hard Drive Energy Not Worth Conserving drives?

2011-01-11 Thread Jochen Schulz
teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net: > > I think what we mainly should take from all this is Western Digital > sucks and we should never buy their crap... Yeah, we should rush out and buy Samsung drives with their faulty firmware which "forgets" write operations if one sends the wrong IDE command at the