Re: [OT] Hard Drive Energy Not Worth Conserving drives?

2011-01-10 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 04:44:13AM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Robert Holtzman put forth on 1/9/2011 7:00 PM: > > On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 03:37:41PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > >> This is because of your liberal political leanings, which have no place > >> here. This is a technical discussi

Re: Squeeze install on HP DL380G4 with broadcom network.

2011-01-10 Thread Tixy
On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 14:29 +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Hi, > > With the non-free exclusions from the iso [1], installation wasn't > possible without taking further steps. Not sure this non-free image > thing is a good idea(tm) -- perhaps images WITH the non-free drivers > need to be mad

Re: Installed Debian today.

2011-01-10 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:43:02PM +, Lisi wrote: > On Wednesday 29 December 2010 22:55:00 Robert Holtzman wrote: > > That's the biggest bunch of BS I've seen in a long time. I've used the > > last 3 LTS releases and they have been completely stable. > > > > Your posts reflect several earmarks

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Re: [OT] Hard Drive Energy Not Worth Conserving drives?

2011-01-10 Thread teddieeb
I think what we mainly should take from all this is Western Digital sucks and we should never buy their crap... I know there are some who will disagree with this, so no flames needed... TeddyB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Re (2): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-10 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon January 10 2011 20:55:10 Bob Proulx wrote: > > Did something break in the Squeeze network infrastructure about > > a two weeks back? > > Most of my machines are running Lenny. So I wouldn't know. FWIW, we have not encountered any problems in what is now a mixed Lenny/Squeeze OpenVPN networ

Re: Re (2): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-10 Thread Bob Proulx
peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Do the packets arrive at dalton? You should be able to see this with > > tcpdump. > > tcpdump -lni any port 1194 > > Tried that and found 0 datagrams reaching Dalton. In fact > datagrams don't even reach the external interface on Joule. They d

Squeeze install on HP DL380G4 with broadcom network.

2011-01-10 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, With the non-free exclusions from the iso [1], installation wasn't possible without taking further steps. Not sure this non-free image thing is a good idea(tm) -- perhaps images WITH the non-free drivers need to be made easily available, if not, I can see many people abandoning Debian to

Re: PCI video card on Dell Dimension 2300

2011-01-10 Thread Jim Lebeau
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[OT]: Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-10 Thread Dan Serban
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:04:19 -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: [snip] > http://www.hardwarefreak.com/server-pics/ Which gallery system are you using? I quite like it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists

Re: piping find to zip -- with spaces in path

2011-01-10 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi Rob, Rob Owens wrote: I tried this and it successfully creates myfile.zip: find ./ -iname "*.jpg" -print | zip myfile -@ But it fails if there are spaces in the path or filename. How can I make it work with spaces? Does this work: find ./ -iname "*.jpg" -print0 | xargs -0 zip myfile -@

Re: Squeeze: Gnome icons missing

2011-01-10 Thread Alan Ianson
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:00:13 + (UTC) Zeissmann wrote: > Hi all! > > Recently I've installed Debian Squeeze with Gnome on a new laptop. > Unfortunately I'm missing some of the icons. Namely missing are those > under the System menu and all of those in the right-click menus. I've > got all the

Re: USB key requirement.

2011-01-10 Thread Dan Serban
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:45:29 + Darac Marjal wrote: > On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 09:42:03PM -0800, Dan Serban wrote: > > So, I'm currently switching my 9 workstations around the house to > > diskless boot. They mount nfs shares that reside on top of an > > encrypted raid server. This is all fin

piping find to zip -- with spaces in path

2011-01-10 Thread Rob Owens
I tried this and it successfully creates myfile.zip: find ./ -iname "*.jpg" -print | zip myfile -@ But it fails if there are spaces in the path or filename. How can I make it work with spaces? Thanks -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "u

Re: lenny -> squeeze with trinity

2011-01-10 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon January 10 2011 17:06:34 Brad Alexander wrote: > Did an apt-get update (and aptitude update) and tried both an apt-get > dist-upgrade and an aptitude full-upgrade, and both wanted to > deinstall trinity. Hi Brad, There are a few minor conflicts that can be worked around. One I recall invol

Re: USB key requirement.

2011-01-10 Thread Dan Serban
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:07:31 -0600 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Dan Serban wrote: > > So, I'm currently switching my 9 workstations around the house to > > diskless boot. They mount nfs shares that reside on top of an > > encrypted raid server. This is all fine and good. > > What is a workstation

Re: USB key requirement.

2011-01-10 Thread Dan Serban
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:46:04 +0200 Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Du, 09 ian 11, 21:42:03, Dan Serban wrote: > > So, I'm currently switching my 9 workstations around the house to > > diskless boot. They mount nfs shares that reside on top of an > > encrypted raid server. This is all fine and good.

lenny -> squeeze with trinity

2011-01-10 Thread Brad Alexander
My wife's machine has been running lenny for a long time, but with squeeze's imminent release, I decided I needed to make some changes. The main reason that she is using lenny is that she prefers kde3. So tonight I upgraded to trinity on her lenny installation. After the install, I changed the apt.

Re: Installed Debian today.

2011-01-10 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 29 December 2010 22:55:00 Robert Holtzman wrote: > That's the biggest bunch of BS I've seen in a long time. I've used the > last 3 LTS releases and they have been completely stable. > > Your posts reflect several earmarks of a troll. I have just been doing a course, and a lot of the p

Re: Multiple address the same client - dhpcd.conf

2011-01-10 Thread gboy13
What if you do separate host declarations within separate subnet declarations? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikjsjfhrwhjbcsgtgq8bxej=8pamktc2z

Squeeze: Gnome icons missing

2011-01-10 Thread Zeissmann
Hi all! Recently I've installed Debian Squeeze with Gnome on a new laptop. Unfortunately I'm missing some of the icons. Namely missing are those under the System menu and all of those in the right-click menus. I've got all the basic Gnome icons installed which I've checked with the packages presen

Re: Couldn't find the DDC routing table

2011-01-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/10/2011 11:34 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 14:11:57 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Has anyone experienced this error message when using an nvidia 8400GS GPU? Nope... but Google finds some hits: http://www.google.com/search?q=couldn%27t+find+ddc+routing+table&hl=en&tbo=1&complete=

Re: DD To a Smaller Partition

2011-01-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Jesús M. Navarro wrote: Hi, Hal: On Sunday 09 January 2011 20:21:22 Hal Vaughan wrote: I have a 10 GB partition that is nowhere near full, less than 5 GB of data on it (far less). Unfortunately, the partition I'd like to copy it to is 5 GB. I can do "rsync -av" but normally I'd use DD. Is th

Re: Debian (sid) painfully slow.

2011-01-10 Thread darkestkhan
You may also try this one: http://ada.cx/OlS But I started testing it today so I can't really say what exact effect in system responsiveness is. darkestkhan -- jid: darkestk...@gmail.com May The Source be with You. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-

Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:04:19 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Camaleón put forth on 1/10/2011 8:08 AM: >> Good. It would be nice to see the results when you finally go it >> working the way you like ;-) > > Bob's xargs suggestion got it working instantly many hours ago. I'm not > sure of the resul

Re: USB key requirement.

2011-01-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Dan Serban wrote: So, I'm currently switching my 9 workstations around the house to diskless boot. They mount nfs shares that reside on top of an encrypted raid server. This is all fine and good. What is a workstation like? Hugo What I'd like to do: On a specific workstation, on boot, i

Re: Balsa

2011-01-10 Thread Doug
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Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Camaleón put forth on 1/10/2011 8:08 AM: > On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 14:39:56 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> Camaleón put forth on 1/9/2011 12:12 PM: >> >>> Better if you check it, but I dunno how to get the compile options for >>> the lenny package... where is this defined, in source or diff package

Re (2): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-10 Thread peasthope
From: Bob Proulx Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 17:54:51 -0700 > Do the packets arrive at dalton? You should be able to see this with > tcpdump. > tcpdump -lni any port 1194 Tried that and found 0 datagrams reaching Dalton. In fact datagrams don't even reach the external interface on Joule. In

Re: Couldn't find the DDC routing table

2011-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 14:11:57 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > Has anyone experienced this error message when using an nvidia 8400GS > GPU? Nope... but Google finds some hits: http://www.google.com/search?q=couldn%27t+find+ddc+routing+table&hl=en&tbo=1&complete=0&prmd=ivns&tbas=0&source=lnt&sa=X&ei=ik

Re: variable in loop

2011-01-10 Thread Brian Ryans
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Re: Debian (sid) painfully slow.

2011-01-10 Thread darkestkhan
2011/1/8 Neil Youngman : > On Friday 07 Jan 2011 18:39:52 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> > I will continue to observe the system, with swapping in mind as a >> > possible  factor and see if there is a correlation. >> >> But if it was swapping you would see the HDD light being lit when you >> were not do

Re: PCI video card on Dell Dimension 2300

2011-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 23:30:07 -0600, Jim Lebeau wrote: (...) > I installed Squeeze. I searched for "*agp*.ko" and found nothing. I > added all of the video and char drivers that began with i (for Intel) to > the blacklist. Squeeze will not boot. Have you tried by passing "agp=off" as kernel par

Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?

2011-01-10 Thread Jochen Schulz
Dotan Cohen: > > So despite the "feel" of the drive, the green SATA drive blows the two > "snappier" IDE drives out of the water. Remember you only tested near sequential access. That's what hard disks are still quite good at. What makes your system feel sluggish is random access and WD's 5400rpm

Re: Basic questions about Debian package tools

2011-01-10 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 16:11, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 10 Jan 2011, Jochen Schulz wrote: >> pt3...@gmail.com: >> > >> > Is it true I should avoid APT and use some other frontend or, better, >> > dpkg directly? >> >> Never use dpkg directly if you don't have to. Apt-get and aptitude are >> bot

Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?

2011-01-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 17:08, Klistvud wrote: > Glad to be of help. Please do read Stan Hoeppner's suggestion in this thread > on using the dd command as a more reliable benchmark! > The results are interesting: This is the WD10EARS drive, with both /home and / mounted on it in separate partitio

Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?

2011-01-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 16:02, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Dotan Cohen put forth on 1/9/2011 5:58 AM: > >> Thanks, Klistvud. I just purchased a WD10EARS (1 TB drive) and I >> noticed that my writes are _slow_. I think that it may be a KDE issue, >> there even is an open KDE bug that copy/paste is vry sl

Re: nvidia no signal

2011-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 22:35:23 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > i've got an nvidia geforce 7600. when i boot, i get a splash on the vgo > out. however, the splash doesn't go away after it boots (i can ssh in > and use it fine). however, once i kill x, i don't get a signal on either > the vga or hdmi. I

Re: Basic questions about Debian package tools

2011-01-10 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 01:04:27PM +0100, pt3...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > > I'm a Debian Squeeze new user and have some basic questions about > Debian package tools. > > Is it true I should avoid APT and use some other frontend or, better, > dpkg directly? Who told you to stay unhappy?

Re: Basic questions about Debian package tools

2011-01-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , pt3...@gmail.com wrote: >I'm a Debian Squeeze new user and have some basic questions about >Debian package tools. > >Is it true I should avoid APT and use some other frontend or, better, >dpkg directly? Absolutely not, on both counts. With the Squeeze release, apt-get reclaims the title of

Re: Basic questions about Debian package tools

2011-01-10 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 10 Jan 2011, Jochen Schulz wrote: > pt3...@gmail.com: > > > > Is it true I should avoid APT and use some other frontend or, better, > > dpkg directly? > > Never use dpkg directly if you don't have to. Apt-get and aptitude are > both good frontends with similar capabilities. Which one you use i

Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 14:39:56 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Camaleón put forth on 1/9/2011 12:12 PM: > >> Better if you check it, but I dunno how to get the compile options for >> the lenny package... where is this defined, in source or diff packages? > > You're taking this thread down the wrong

Re: DD To a Smaller Partition

2011-01-10 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, Hal: On Sunday 09 January 2011 20:21:22 Hal Vaughan wrote: > I have a 10 GB partition that is nowhere near full, less than 5 GB of data > on it (far less). Unfortunately, the partition I'd like to copy it to is 5 > GB. I can do "rsync -av" but normally I'd use DD. Is there a way to copy > a

Re: Basic questions about Debian package tools

2011-01-10 Thread Jochen Schulz
pt3...@gmail.com: > > Is it true I should avoid APT and use some other frontend or, better, > dpkg directly? Never use dpkg directly if you don't have to. Apt-get and aptitude are both good frontends with similar capabilities. Which one you use is mostly a question of personal preference. Only wh

Re: Basic questions about Debian package tools

2011-01-10 Thread Javier Barroso
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:04 PM, pt3...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > > I'm a Debian Squeeze new user and have some basic questions about > Debian package tools. > > Is it true I should avoid APT and use some other frontend or, better, > dpkg directly? > I tried aptitude, but I don't like ncurses-ba

Re: Basic questions about Debian package tools

2011-01-10 Thread Roman Khomasuridze
> > > Is it true I should avoid APT and use some other frontend or, better, > dpkg directly? > I tried aptitude, but I don't like ncurses-based tools. I prefer the > classic command line if possible. > > You'll rarely need to use dpkg directly,it's lowest level of package management, it does no hav

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Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?

2011-01-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Stefan Monnier put forth on 1/9/2011 10:42 PM: > I have no idea what makes you so angry against "green" drives. I am against using any drive, at this time, in Linux, with a native sector size other than 512 bytes. The Linux partitioning tools still do not easily/properly handle these hybrid driv

Basic questions about Debian package tools

2011-01-10 Thread pt3...@gmail.com
Hello, I'm a Debian Squeeze new user and have some basic questions about Debian package tools. Is it true I should avoid APT and use some other frontend or, better, dpkg directly? I tried aptitude, but I don't like ncurses-based tools. I prefer the classic command line if possible. How can I obt

Re: [OT] Hard Drive Energy Not Worth Conserving drives?

2011-01-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Robert Holtzman put forth on 1/9/2011 7:00 PM: > On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 03:37:41PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> This is because of your liberal political leanings, which have no place >> here. This is a technical discussion list, so keep it technical. > > I was with you right up until that la

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2011-01-10 Thread Udo Steinkopf
Das E-mail Balsa Programm ist ein sehr gutes programm. Leider gibt es da einen unschönen Fehler. In der Werkzeugleiste : Postfach kann man die ges.Stückzahl mails nicht sehen, wenn das rechte Fenster nicht nach rechts geschoben wird. Ich hätte gerne einen Trennstrich nach dem rechten T. Ich würde

Re: USB key requirement.

2011-01-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 09 ian 11, 21:42:03, Dan Serban wrote: > So, I'm currently switching my 9 workstations around the house to > diskless boot. They mount nfs shares that reside on top of an > encrypted raid server. This is all fine and good. > > What I'd like to do: > > On a specific workstation, on boot,

Re: Squeeze. How to set video res to 1366x768 in pure console?

2011-01-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 10 ian 11, 00:01:49, Phil Requirements wrote: > Change this: > > GRUB_GFXMODE=1366x768x32 > GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1366x768x32 > > To this: > > GRUB_GFXMODE=1366x768x32 > GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep Also you might want to keep it simple and not indicate the depth (I dou

Re: need help making shell script use two CPUs/cores

2011-01-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Karl Vogel put forth on 1/9/2011 6:04 PM: >>> On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 10:05:43 -0600, >>> Stan Hoeppner said: > > S> #! /bin/sh > S> for k in $(ls *.JPG); do convert $k -resize 1024 $k; done > >Someone was ragging on you to let the shell do the file expansion. I >like your way better becau