wicd refuses to start

2010-08-14 Thread Liviu Andronic
Dear all After some recent updates, I assume, wicd strangely refuses to start. li...@debian-liv:~$ wicd-gtk Has notifications support True Loading... Connecting to daemon... Connected. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py", line 1033, in main(sys.argv)

Re: SMART configuration

2010-08-14 Thread Bob Proulx
T o n g wrote: > I noticed that SMART configuration has changed dramatically since last > time I looked into it. > > Anyone care to explain how to configure SMART for a simple task as > regular selftests on sda please? Edit /etc/smartd.conf, read the DEVICESCAN comment and then comment out the

Re: Corrupted FS every 50 checks

2010-08-14 Thread Bob Proulx
T o n g wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Note that if it is set to no on a remote server that you do not have > > console access to then it is possible to get into a state where the > > machine will not reboot on its own because it will be waiting for > > console access to get past the fsck questions

Re: Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?

2010-08-14 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 02:00 -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: > Good morning, > > I'm going to list some of the frustrations I've been having with > troubleshooting Linux's quirks, crashes and problems in hopes that someone > may > be able to help me (and the community) become better bug reporters an

Re: Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?

2010-08-14 Thread Kousik Maiti
My suggestion, can't we create troubleshooting database?? On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Borden Rhodes wrote: > Good morning, > > I'm going to list some of the frustrations I've been having with > troubleshooting Linux's quirks, crashes and problems in hopes that someone > may > be able to help

Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?

2010-08-14 Thread Borden Rhodes
Good morning, I'm going to list some of the frustrations I've been having with troubleshooting Linux's quirks, crashes and problems in hopes that someone may be able to help me (and the community) become better bug reporters and troubleshooters. I'll make comparisons to Windows only because I

Re: 802.11 WPA network key prompt despite GNOME keyring

2010-08-14 Thread Andrew Reid
On Saturday 14 August 2010 04:16:47 Stanisław Findeisen wrote: > Hi > > I am trying to use a 802.11 wireless network that frequently disconnects > me (low signal). The network is protected with WPA pre-shared key. The > problem is I am being prompted for this key every time. > > Well, almost every.

Re: Creating a bootable USB key

2010-08-14 Thread Jimmy Johnson
brownh wrote: Jimmy Johnson writes: brownh wrote: Jimmy, I inadvertangly sent this message to you personally, but here send it to the list. The directions for creating a bootable USB key don't mention running cfdisk on it to make it bootable. I simply copied syslinux to the key, but suspect

Re: Corrupted FS every 50 checks

2010-08-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010, Merciadri Luca wrote: > always on the same: /dev/sdc5. Well, this is where I have all my docs, > my university stuff, and this is even more annoying. I could do backups, I sure hope you *DID* extensive backups. Often. And stored some of them for permanent archival. > but I

Re: building 2.6.35

2010-08-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:29:11 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: > -- > > $ cd linux-source-2.6.32 > $ cp /boot/config-2.6.32-5-686 .config > $ make menuconfig > $ make-kpkg --append-to-version -custom5-686 --revision 2.6.32-18 \ >--initrd --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image >

Re: building 2.6.35

2010-08-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:12:02 -0400 (EDT), Angus Hedger wrote: > > The two things that i use k-headers for myself are the nvidia blob, > and the virtual-box km's > > The only issues I ran into when building headers via make-kpkg where as > follows, > > Make sure you use the same "-append-to-vers

Re: Corrupted FS every 50 checks

2010-08-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Hanspeter Spalinger wrote: > Merciadri Luca wrote: > > problem is that I always get errors when e2fsck verifies the fs, and > > always on the same: /dev/sdc5. ... > > but I can't understand why this filesystem is problematic, because I > > don't use it often, at least these times. I always have er

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Tom Poe
Paul E Condon wrote: On 20100814_165057, Tom Poe wrote: Phil Requirements wrote: On 2010-08-14 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: Hi: Is this correct list for learning how to install and use

Re: partitioning HD for server

2010-08-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Bob Proulx wrote: > Louis Hinman wrote: > > To learn Liunx networking, I am going to set up a web server > > Well, a web server is just a component and it does I should finish my thoughts before sending. Sigh. Well, a web server is just a component and it by itself really isn't enough to learn

Re: Corrupted FS every 50 checks

2010-08-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Merciadri Luca wrote: > but I can't understand why this filesystem is problematic, because I > don't use it often, at least these times. I always have errors about the Does your disk support S.M.A.R.T.? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T. Try it and see if the disk drive reports any physic

Re: Blank blue screen after logging into an account for the first time with gdm & choosing window manager

2010-08-14 Thread Daniel Trebbien
> So why didn't Nautilus start after I selected a window manager? I figured it out. For some reason, the X session manager was set to `/usr/bin/choosewm` by default when it needed to be `/usr/bin/gnome-session`. I corrected this with: sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager -- To

Re: partitioning HD for server

2010-08-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Louis Hinman wrote: > To learn Liunx networking, I am going to set up a web server Well, a web server is just a component and it does > To this end, I am installing Debian 5.0 on a Dell Dimension 4100 > with a 250 MB HD. 250 Megabyte? Or 250 Gigabyte? A small installation will easily fit with

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100814_165057, Tom Poe wrote: > Phil Requirements wrote: > >On 2010-08-14 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: > >>Camaleón wrote: > >>>On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: > >>> > Hi: Is this correct list for learning how to install and use > debian? > >>>I hope so :-) > >>>

Re: partitioning HD for server

2010-08-14 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <201008141400.06004.sl...@rcn.com>, Louis Hinman wrote: >On my desktop, I have partitioned my HD as follows: > >/root You mean '/' right? '/' is the root of the unified UNIX/Linux directory tree for a single system. '/root' is a directory (not usually a separate file system) that is normall

Re: Creating a bootable USB key

2010-08-14 Thread brownh
Jimmy Johnson writes: > brownh wrote: >> Jimmy, >> >> I inadvertangly sent this message to you personally, but here send it >> to the list. >> >> The directions for creating a bootable USB key don't mention running >> cfdisk on it to make it bootable. I simply copied syslinux to the key, >> but s

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <4c66d777.5010...@meltel.net>, Tom Poe wrote: >Camaleón wrote: >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: >>> My wish list: I'd like to install debian on desktop that serves as >>> workstation/server. The desktop has two hard drives, 80GB and 160GB. >>> Would like to use both drives

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Tom Poe
Phil Requirements wrote: On 2010-08-14 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: Hi: Is this correct list for learning how to install and use debian? I hope so :-) [snip] workstation/server. The des

Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 21:00:10 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Camaleón wrote: >> Can you launch "eclipse" with some "-debug" option? Maybe you'll get >> additonal information. >> > Sure. > > == > $ ./eclipse -debug (...) > -vm > /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/bin/../jre/li

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Phil Requirements
On 2010-08-14 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: > Camaleón wrote: > >On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: > > > >>Hi: Is this correct list for learning how to install and use > >>debian? > > > >I hope so :-) > > > [snip] > > workstation/server. The desktop has two hard drives, 80GB an

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100814_125047, Tom Poe wrote: > Camaleón wrote: > >On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: > > > >>Camaleón wrote: > >>>On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: > >>> > >>> > Hi: Is this correct list for learning how to install and use debian? > >>>(...) > >>> > >>>I

Re: Corrupted FS every 50 checks

2010-08-14 Thread Hanspeter Spalinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/14/2010 09:01 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Hi, > > I have the fs' checking period set to 50 mounts for now some years. The > problem is that I always get errors when e2fsck verifies the fs, and > always on the same: /dev/sdc5. Well, this is whe

Re: Disk error?

2010-08-14 Thread green
pch0317 wrote at 2010-08-14 13:56 -0500: > I put in attachment dmesg output. The last lines, I think, give the answer. No attachment... signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Blank blue screen after logging into an account for the first time with gdm & choosing window manager

2010-08-14 Thread Daniel Trebbien
On one of my computers, running Debian Squeeze, I have two user accounts. One has been used exclusively for running Nautilus and GNOME applications. The other has been used exclusively over SSH. At start-up, gdm automatically logs into the "graphical" account, but today I decided that I wanted to u

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:16:23 -0400 (EDT), Tom Poe wrote: > ... > Looks like I can contribute to debian if I purchase CD/DVD, right? > ... Many vendors who sell Debian CDs allow you to make a contribution to Debian in conjunction with your purchase. But that is not the only way to financially con

Disk error?

2010-08-14 Thread pch0317
Hi. I have problem with my laptop. When I use graphic enviroment some program like icedove don't response. I think, this is depend on disk. I put in attachment dmesg output. The last lines, I think, give the answer. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Camaleón wrote: > Can you launch "eclipse" with some "-debug" option? Maybe you'll get > additonal information. > Sure. == $ ./eclipse -debug Start VM: -Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5 -XX:MaxPermSize=256m -Xms40m -Xmx384m -Djava.class.path=/home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox

Corrupted FS every 50 checks

2010-08-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Hi, I have the fs' checking period set to 50 mounts for now some years. The problem is that I always get errors when e2fsck verifies the fs, and always on the same: /dev/sdc5. Well, this is where I have all my docs, my university stuff, and this is even more annoying. I could do backups, but I can

Re: Creating a bootable USB key

2010-08-14 Thread Jimmy Johnson
brownh wrote: Jimmy, I inadvertangly sent this message to you personally, but here send it to the list. The directions for creating a bootable USB key don't mention running cfdisk on it to make it bootable. I simply copied syslinux to the key, but suspect I have to run cfdisk as well. Is that s

Re: 802.11 WPA network key prompt despite GNOME keyring

2010-08-14 Thread Mark
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Mark wrote: > 2010/8/14 Stanisław Findeisen > >> Hi >> >> I am trying to use a 802.11 wireless network that frequently disconnects >> me (low signal). The network is protected with WPA pre-shared key. The >> problem is I am being prompted for this key every time

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Tom Poe
Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: Hi: Is this correct list for learning how to install and use debian? (...) I hope so :-) OK. So, for starter

Re: 802.11 WPA network key prompt despite GNOME keyring

2010-08-14 Thread Mark
2010/8/14 Stanisław Findeisen > Hi > > I am trying to use a 802.11 wireless network that frequently disconnects > me (low signal). The network is protected with WPA pre-shared key. The > problem is I am being prompted for this key every time. > > Well, almost every. When I log in, I do not have t

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Tom Poe
Bob Proulx wrote: Tom Poe wrote: OK. So, for starters, I'd like to know which version to use. Since you are asking then I highly recommend that you install and run the Debian Stable version. That is the most well known and well tested release. (That is why it is called Stable. :-)

partitioning HD for server

2010-08-14 Thread Louis Hinman
To learn Liunx networking, I am going to set up a web server To this end, I am installing Debian 5.0 on a Dell Dimension 4100 with a 250 MB HD. On my desktop, I have partitioned my HD as follows: /root /swap /home /usr/local /opt What would be an appropriate partition scheme for my web server?

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: > Camaleón wrote: >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: >> >> >>> Hi: Is this correct list for learning how to install and use debian? >>> >>> >> (...) >> >> I hope so :-) >> >> >> > OK. So, for starters, I'd like to kn

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom Poe wrote: > OK. So, for starters, I'd like to know which version to use. Since you are asking then I highly recommend that you install and run the Debian Stable version. That is the most well known and well tested release. (That is why it is called Stable. :-) The current Stable release i

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Tom Poe
Nuno Magalhães wrote: Hi, For starters, try finfind answers to your questions, it'll save you time. Most of what you asked can be answered by browsing around debian.org, the list archives or searching. As for versions, i'd stick with stable. Personally i use unstable for desktops but it does ha

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Hi, For starters, try finfind answers to your questions, it'll save you time. Most of what you asked can be answered by browsing around debian.org, the list archives or searching. As for versions, i'd stick with stable. Personally i use unstable for desktops but it does have its occasional quirks

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Tom Poe
Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: Hi: Is this correct list for learning how to install and use debian? (...) I hope so :-) Greetings, OK. So, for starters, I'd like to know which version to use. Looks like I can contribute to debian if I pur

Re: Trinity KDE 3.5.11

2010-08-14 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 04:07 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 14:54 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 18:28 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > > On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 16:34 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > > > > On Thu August 5 2010, John A. Su

Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote: > Hi: Is this correct list for learning how to install and use debian? (...) I hope so :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listma

newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Tom Poe
Hi: Is this correct list for learning how to install and use debian? I presently have Ubuntustudio8.04 on a Dell G260 desktop, and would like to move to debian. Just watched Moglen's Cloud speech, and got inspired. Thanks, Tom Poe, Eden Valley, MN -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-req

Re: Enabling remote logon - any decent intro docs?

2010-08-14 Thread Joao Ferreira gmail
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 21:51 +0100, AG wrote: > Hi all > > I have a guest account on my machine and want to enable that user to > access that profile from another Debian machine on my LAN. This task is > called remote networking, right? And as far as I can tell OpenSSH is > probably the way to

Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:53:02 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Camaleón wrote: (...) >>> == >>> $ eclipse/eclipse >>> Error occurred during initialization of VM >>> java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object == >>> >>> Why? >>> >>> >> He, he... you can also Google a bit, it won't hu

Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:17:14 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > >> Camaleón wrote: >> > > (...) > > >>> Two ideas on how to by-pass this: >>> >>> 1/ If Eclipse has an option to edit the path to the avilable JRE, just >>> change it from there, or just by manually editing "

Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:17:14 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Camaleón wrote: (...) >> Two ideas on how to by-pass this: >> >> 1/ If Eclipse has an option to edit the path to the avilable JRE, just >> change it from there, or just by manually editing "/etc/eclipse/ >> java_home". >> >> 2/ Make a s

Re: Creating a bootable USB key

2010-08-14 Thread brownh
Jimmy, I inadvertangly sent this message to you personally, but here send it to the list. The directions for creating a bootable USB key don't mention running cfdisk on it to make it bootable. I simply copied syslinux to the key, but suspect I have to run cfdisk as well. Is that so? Haines Brow

Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:45:31 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > (...) > > >> Really nice, but Eclipse seems not to like it that much: >> >> == >> A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK) must be >> available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine w

Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:45:31 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: (...) > Really nice, but Eclipse seems not to like it that much: > > == > A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK) must be > available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine was found > after searching the

Re: What to put on SSD

2010-08-14 Thread Jochen Schulz
Jörg-Volker Peetz: > > Did you enable the 'discard' mount option on your ext4 file system (see > kernel-/Documentation/filesystems/ext4.txt) in order to make usage of > the TRIM-ability of the SSD? Me? -No, because my (1st gen) X25m model doesn't support TRIM. J. -- I think the environment will

Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:57:11 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > >> Camaleón wrote: >> > > (...) > > >>> *** >>> update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java >>> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/jre/bin/java 1 *** >>> >>> >> Thanks for this.

Re: Enabling remote logon - any decent intro docs?

2010-08-14 Thread AG
On 13/08/10 22:46, Nuno Magalhães wrote: Two Debian machines on a LAN, i'd go for XDMCP - it'll give you the "remote desktop" feel. It's not that hard, just changing a few values in text files. If you're using GNOME or KDE it'll probably be easier. Keyword: XDMCP. Thanks Bob and Nuno - I'l

Re: grub2: VFS: Unable to mount root fs

2010-08-14 Thread Simon Brandmair
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:20:02 +0200 Tom H wrote: > > Please post the output of "blkid -c /dev/null" and the working grub2 > "menuentry ... { ... }". blkid -c /dev/null: /dev/sda2: LABEL="root" UUID="d8f9ae65-2e4f-4b20-aaac-9c5b6e7c6be7" TYPE="ext3" /dev/sda5: LABEL="var" UUID="1e30fe16-85e9-4c48

802.11 WPA network key prompt despite GNOME keyring

2010-08-14 Thread Stanisław Findeisen
Hi I am trying to use a 802.11 wireless network that frequently disconnects me (low signal). The network is protected with WPA pre-shared key. The problem is I am being prompted for this key every time. Well, almost every. When I log in, I do not have to type the key. It is stored in the GNOME ke