Re: calling US 800 numbers from abroad via VoIP

2009-12-17 Thread jidanni
KR> How about borrowing your friend's Skype account for the 1 or 2 calls KR> you need to make? Thanks but 1. I want to use open software. 2. I'm embarrassed to ask. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lis

calling US 800 numbers from abroad via VoIP

2009-12-17 Thread jidanni
[Also posted to Newsgroups: comp.dcom.voice-over-ip] Hello. I live in Taiwan and use Debian Linux. I want to call an 1-800 toll free US number, which of course is not toll free when calling from Taiwan. So how can I use this VoIP stuff to bridge the gap? I'm sure I'm capable of installing whatever

Re: Is apt-get still the cool package installer?

2009-12-17 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Mathieu Malaterre wrote: >On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Celejar wrote: >> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:13:22 -0800 >> John Jason Jordan wrote: >>> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:21:34 -0600 >>> sys49...@hushmail.com dijo: >>> >For several years, I have enjoyed apt-get as a very powerful >>> >software

Re: Laptop won't resume from suspend to ram

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Biebl
Adriano Vilela Barbosa wrote: > PS: Is there a way to know which packages migrated from sid to testing on a > given day? If so, and given that some package upgrade was indeed what caused > the problem, that would help me find the culprit. dpkg writes a log in /var/log/dpkg.log. You can check there

Re: Is apt-get still the cool package installer?

2009-12-17 Thread Nick Boyce
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <4b29bdbe.2090...@glimmer.adsl24.co.uk>, Nick Boyce wrote: > >> The main advantage of aptitude over apt-get (IMO) used to be (sarge/etch >> IIRC) that aptitude added extra info into the apt database flagging >> packages that were only installed as a dependency of

Re: Compiling Linux kernel

2009-12-17 Thread Kumar Appaiah
Dear Daniel, On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:41:11PM -0300, Daniel Bareiro wrote: [snip menuconfig discussion] > This only works in the case of not using ARCH=x86_64 with make > menuconfig in the second time that is invoked. But when not using this > variable, the processor family returns to be like Pe

Re: Compiling Linux kernel

2009-12-17 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, Kumar. On Thursday, 17 December 2009 19:34:09 -0600, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:26:39PM -0300, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > > > Well, the kernel build does check what your current config is, and > > > based on that, asks you some new questions. One way I get around this > >

Re: Msn protocol

2009-12-17 Thread Paul Johnson
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> why use a protocol that was obsoleted by an open standard almost a >> decade ago? XMPP is your friend. There's no reason to use anything >> else at this point; it's like suggesting that email should use something >> other than SMTP at this jun

Re: Compiling Linux kernel

2009-12-17 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:26:39PM -0300, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > > Well, the kernel build does check what your current config is, and > > based on that, asks you some new questions. One way I get around this > > is: > > > > cd > > cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) .config > > make menuconfig # choose

Re: Compiling Linux kernel

2009-12-17 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, Kumar. On Thursday, 17 December 2009 18:40:07 -0600, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > > I am trying to compile Linux 2.6.32 with the source code of kernel.org. > > Kernel that I'm using at the moment is 2.6.26-2-686 of the Debian > > GNU/Linux repositories. > > > > In order to generate the configurati

Re: Re: Laptop won't resume from suspend to ram

2009-12-17 Thread Adriano Vilela Barbosa
> Sudev Barar wrote: > > Hi Adriano, > > Can you refer to us more info about your laptop hardware? > > Sleep/Suspend is diferent from Hibernate. As Barar refers for hibernate on > linux laptops you must have at least SWAP space equal to RAM size > (recomended), depending on your machine resources

Re: Compiling Linux kernel

2009-12-17 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:32:59PM -0300, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > Hi all! > > I am trying to compile Linux 2.6.32 with the source code of kernel.org. > Kernel that I'm using at the moment is 2.6.26-2-686 of the Debian > GNU/Linux repositories. > > In order to generate the configuration, I've copi

Compiling Linux kernel

2009-12-17 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi all! I am trying to compile Linux 2.6.32 with the source code of kernel.org. Kernel that I'm using at the moment is 2.6.26-2-686 of the Debian GNU/Linux repositories. In order to generate the configuration, I've copied the file corresponding to this kernel to the directory of sources, /usr/src

Re: Is apt-get still the cool package installer?

2009-12-17 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:13:22 -0800 > John Jason Jordan wrote: > >> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:21:34 -0600 >> sys49...@hushmail.com dijo: > > ... > >> >For several years, I have enjoyed apt-get as a very powerful >> >software install tool that doesn't

Re: Is apt-get still the cool package installer?

2009-12-17 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 05:12:31PM EST, Allen Kenner wrote: > On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:01:06 -0500, wrote: [..] > I also use FVWM, FVWM2, and FVWM95, and one other I can't remember the > name of, called FVWM something or other, which looks really nice. fvwm-crystal CJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > On Thursday 17 December 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Given that the package version clearly indicates it reached testing by > > way of testing-proposed-updates, I think it's unwise to assume this. > >  Cc:ing debian-release for input on the uninst

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > Given that the package version clearly indicates it reached testing by > way of testing-proposed-updates, I think it's unwise to assume this. >  Cc:ing debian-release for input on the uninstallability of gnome in > testing. You're right, I miss

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:39:39PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > This looks like a fairly likely reason: > http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/gnome-core > For some reason the package was forced to testing even though it was not > available on all architectures. > If that is the reason, then it means

Re: Msn protocol

2009-12-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 14:34, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> why use a protocol that was obsoleted by an open standard almost a >> decade ago?  XMPP is your friend.  There's no reason to use anything >> else at this point; it's like suggesting that email should use something

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Rick Thomas wrote: > It may not be "grave" for the installer (indeed, you've already > established at great length that it's not an installer problem at all) > but that doesn't make it any the less grave for whatever package it > does belong to. You've given me a few

Re: Is apt-get still the cool package installer?

2009-12-17 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 03:14:21PM EST, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote: > sys49...@hushmail.com: > > I do wish the font management was more simplified and structured > > though, but I guess we can't have everything. > Thanks to fontconfig, I do find it rather simplified and structured. > Just put your new

Re: Msn protocol

2009-12-17 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Paul Johnson wrote: > why use a protocol that was obsoleted by an open standard almost a > decade ago? XMPP is your friend. There's no reason to use anything > else at this point; it's like suggesting that email should use something > other than SMTP at this juncture. > There's a reason calle

Re: Is apt-get still the cool package installer?

2009-12-17 Thread Allen Kenner
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:01:06 -0500, wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the aptitude tips. I installed the docs package and the HTML is right where you all was said to be. :) Love debian for we are allowed to install a more simplified system. I can even pretend I

Black screen with non-free nvidia drivers

2009-12-17 Thread Anton Nilsson
Greetings I'm sorry if this has already been addressed (it probably has) but I searched and couldn't find anything I understood. I use 64 bit sid, and I'm trying to install the non-free nvidia drivers. I've followed the Debian way at http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers When I start

Re: Msn protocol

2009-12-17 Thread Paul Johnson
Roy wrote: > Is anyone from you guys using Msn protocol, and unable to bring it up? why use a protocol that was obsoleted by an open standard almost a decade ago? XMPP is your friend. There's no reason to use anything else at this point; it's like suggesting that email should use something othe

Re: Is apt-get still the cool package installer?

2009-12-17 Thread Sjoerd Hiemstra
sys49...@hushmail.com: > I do wish the font management was more simplified and structured > though, but I guess we can't have everything. Thanks to fontconfig, I do find it rather simplified and structured. Just put your new fonts into ~/.fonts (locally) or /usr/local/share/fonts (system wide) and

Synaptics not working after upgrade

2009-12-17 Thread Fabian Kürten
Hi list, I recently upgraded some packages (including xorg stuff, hal and udev). Now the settings from the xorg.conf are no longer applied. (at least the TapButton2=2) I'm not sure what the actual problem is, however I have one guess: The (new?) setting in gnome-control-center for touchpad overwr

Re: eSATA woes

2009-12-17 Thread Mark
>On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Gregory Seidman < gsslist+deb...@anthropohedron.net >wrote: > >That's an interesting thought, but it's a bit complicated by the fact that >the old hardware in question is a G4-era Mac. Any idea how to check on that >without a BIOS? I literally have no PC hardware

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Re: eSATA woes

2009-12-17 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 07:30:07PM +, Camale?n wrote: > On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:37:53 -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote: > > I've been running a RAID1 on Firewire for years, but I really want SMART > > monitoring and SATA drives (and enclosures) keep getting cheaper. I'm > > running on older hardware

Re: eSATA woes

2009-12-17 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:37:53 -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote: > I've been running a RAID1 on Firewire for years, but I really want SMART > monitoring and SATA drives (and enclosures) keep getting cheaper. I'm > running on older hardware with only PCI slots, no PCI-E or PCI-X, so I > picked up a PCI S

Re: Is apt-get still the cool package installer?

2009-12-17 Thread sys49152
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the aptitude tips. I installed the docs package and the HTML is right where you all was said to be. :) Love debian for we are allowed to install a more simplified system. I can even pretend I am an early 1990s grad student and use fvwm if

Re: Vuze (Azureus) broken after Apt-get upgrade

2009-12-17 Thread Russ Cook
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In <4b2a6476.1000...@mbo.net>, Russ Cook wrote: I am running a 64-bit system, unstable, with kernel 2.6.31-1. Every week or so, I run apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, to keep system reasonable up to date. I am running no firewalls on my system, which is on a home

RE: rsync hangs on big transfer Debian 5.0.3 pulling from WinXP SP3/ Cygwin 1.5.25

2009-12-17 Thread David Christensen
Debian Users & Cygwin: It must have been an owner/ group/ permission issue on the receiving end (?) -- I moved the destination directory aside, created a new top-level destination directory, and now the script runs fine. :-) HTH, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.d

Re: Vuze (Azureus) broken after Apt-get upgrade

2009-12-17 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <4b2a6476.1000...@mbo.net>, Russ Cook wrote: >I am running a 64-bit system, unstable, with kernel 2.6.31-1. >Every week or so, I run apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, to keep system >reasonable >up to date. >I am running no firewalls on my system, which is on a home network behind a >dsl modem/ro

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 17, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Frans Pop wrote: (And please do not over-inflate the severity of bug reports: a desktop environment not being installable does not make the installation system unusable.) It may not be "grave" for the installer (indeed, you've already established at great l

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Rick Thomas wrote: > > What problems exist in Squeeze? > > Here's the Squeeze problem (from my original posting in this thread): > >>> 3) When I install a "graphical desktop environment" with Squeeze > >>> using the above d-i images, I get a system that is missing almo

Re: XDMCP build

2009-12-17 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2009-12-17, Jamie White wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone know a quick way I could a computer running a Linux build > solely for the purpose of XDMCP? > > Do a minimal install, then install xorg. Then you start the X server using the command 'X -query '. -- Liam O'Toole Birmingham, United Kingdom

Vuze (Azureus) broken after Apt-get upgrade

2009-12-17 Thread Russ Cook
I am running a 64-bit system, unstable, with kernel 2.6.31-1. Every week or so, I run apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, to keep system reasonable up to date. I am running no firewalls on my system, which is on a home network behind a dsl modem/router. This week, after running apt-get update, Vuze

Re (2): Questions regarding hardware for a Free Software (especially Debian)

2009-12-17 Thread peasthope
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:44:45 -0500, Celejar wrote, > KMS is apparently badly broken on my Intel 945GM: And LXDE is broken for the Intel 82815 Chipset on the board in the IBM NetVista 6578-RAU. Regards,... Peter E. -- Google "pathology workshop" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debi

eSATA woes

2009-12-17 Thread Gregory Seidman
I've been running a RAID1 on Firewire for years, but I really want SMART monitoring and SATA drives (and enclosures) keep getting cheaper. I'm running on older hardware with only PCI slots, no PCI-E or PCI-X, so I picked up a PCI SATA card with two SATA ports and two eSATA ports. It shows up in lsp

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 17, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Frans Pop wrote: On Thursday 17 December 2009, Rick Thomas wrote: I have listed several problems that exist in Sid and Squeeze, some of which prevent successful installation (even though there is nothing wrong with the installer). The problems in Sid are not int

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Rick Thomas wrote: > I have listed several problems that exist in Sid and Squeeze, some of   > which prevent successful installation (even though there is nothing   > wrong with the installer). The problems in Sid are not interesting as they will fix themselves. What

XDMCP build

2009-12-17 Thread Jamie White
Hi Does anyone know a quick way I could a computer running a Linux build solely for the purpose of XDMCP? -- Jamie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 16, 2009, at 10:38 PM, Frans Pop wrote: Again, there is *nothing* wrong with the installer here. We welcome reports of issues with installations of testing, but issues with sid are seldom caused by problems in the installer. If you say so, I have to agree that there is *nothing* wr

Re: eth1 disappears after kernel upgrade

2009-12-17 Thread go...@dobosevic.com
guys I have taken a hybrid approach I have a couple of the broadcom-sta I did a m-a -t build, which failed, I then cd /usr/src/modules/broadcom-sta/amd64 (i think from memeory) then from tmp/modules (this is where I had grabbed the latest broadcom-sta source from broadcom) I copied over the dire

Re: can't mke2fs hdb, says already mounted, but it isn't

2009-12-17 Thread David Kubicek
On 12/15/2009 10:15 PM, Timothy Legg wrote: Here is a good puzzler. I got a second ATAPI disk in my machine that I was able to partition with fdisk, but cannot mkfs it. It says that the device is already mounted but when I try to umount it, it says it is not mounted. the blkid command I ran on

Re: VGA cards

2009-12-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:58:46PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: > On 12/16/2009 4:27 PM, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: >> >>> In what way "trolling"? Are you kidding? :-/ >> >> You are repeating your arguments in a circular fashion without >> considering the arguments of others. Thats what we call trolli

Re: access times are only updated once per session these days

2009-12-17 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <878wd2xctm@turtle.gmx.de>, Sven Joachim wrote: >On 2009-12-17 08:35 +0100, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> I couldn't find the documentation that said relatime was the default, but >> I thought I read it somewhere. > >It is the default since Linux 2.6.30: >http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_

Re: Is apt-get still the cool package installer?

2009-12-17 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 02:45:29AM EST, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: [..] > I still prefer aptitude because I make use of the interactive > resolver. When running a mixed system like mine, it can be a great > aid. IMO, the aptitude interactive resolver is much better than the > similar offerin