On Dec 3, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Mark wrote:
Stan Hoeppner wrote:
For the money and compatibility you're probably better off going
with an
actual SATA controller instead of that Frankenstein adatper. They're
the same price.
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Good point Stan; I
Stefan Monnier writes:
> As much as I hate Apple, they got some of the boot loader right.
Easy with total control of the hardware.
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> For the money and compatibility you're probably better off going with an
> actual SATA controller instead of that Frankenstein adatper.
Agreed, in case you have a choice, go for the SATA controller.
OTOH, I use one of those frankenstein adapters in a small box (wl700ge
home router) where the SA
> What always bothers me with boot loaders is that they need a system to
> configure & manage them. Now, in a multi-boot system, the next question
> is which one?
100% agreement. As much as I hate Apple, they got some of the boot
loader right. Grub2 should follow their lead: build up (most of)
On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 14:06 -0500, Celejar wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:00:14 -0700
> gham...@sv-phoenix.com wrote:
>
> > I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the
> > things that was recommended was to do
> >
> > apt-get upgrade && apt-get update
>
> FTR, this i
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 07:43 +1100, Alex Samad wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 07:21:10AM -0700, gham...@sv-phoenix.com wrote:
> > Quoting Patrick Wiseman :
> >
> > >On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, wrote:
> > >>I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the
> > >>things
>
>> > I guess the "better way" is to read (and digest) whatever udev doc is
>> > available and run enough tests, possibly with differenty hardware, and
>> > get an in-depth understanding of how it really works.
>>
>> I understand just fine how it works: when the network interface is
>> discovered
Stan Hoeppner wrote:
For the money and compatibility you're probably better off going with an
actual SATA controller instead of that Frankenstein adatper. They're
the same price.
--
Good point Stan; I have a handful of old IDE drives I use for run
Mark put forth on 12/3/2009 4:33 PM:
> Curious if anyone has used something like this
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119257 with
> Lenny. I have an old HP desktop running Lenny with 2 hdd: hda and hdb,
> using IDE connections, with hda jumper set to Master and hdb set t
Mathieu Malaterre put forth on 12/3/2009 3:08 PM:
> Ok so the issue is that /boot needs to be contiguous ? Hum, the error
> message is not as explicit as that...
If you think about this for more than 30 seconds it's perfectly clear
why this is impossible. The block striping is performed by the k
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:19:09 -0500
Rob Owens wrote:
...
> 1) Install apt-cacher-ng (or another caching proxy) on your LAN, and
> use it for your builds. This way you won't have to re-download packages
> on your second build.
>
> The easiest way I've found to get lh_build to use my proxy is to
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 01:28:21PM -0200, Márcio Luciano Donada wrote:
> Hi People
> I set some limits (/etc/security/ limits.conf) but when you restart the
> server the same did not apply the rules, as follows:
Hi, check if the server PAM config under /etc/pam.d includes pam_limits.so,
which is w
Miguel writes:
> Am thinking on making a new installation to findout how to use the
> expert mode, perhaps in such way I will be able to make a more
> detailed installation that allows me to choose LILO too...
You are overthinking this. Just install the lilo package ("apt-get
install lilo"), read
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 06:03:12PM EST, Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 03. 12. 2009 23:52:28 je Klistvud napisal(a):
>
> What I still don't get, though, is where to put kernel parameters
> in these grub scripts? If I put them in grub.cfg, they'll just get
> overwritten the next time update-grub is run .
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 08:48:49PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > I guess the "better way" is to read (and digest) whatever udev doc is
> > available and run enough tests, possibly with differenty hardware, and
> > get an in-depth understanding of how it really works.
>
> I understand just fine
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 04:25:41AM +, T o n g wrote:
> Thanks a lot Tzafrir & Rob for your explains.
> Hope that my slow respond can still get the thread going.
>
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:32:25 -0500, Rob Owens wrote:
> > If you're concerned about adding packages w/o using "-p mylist", you ca
Hi Rob
I did what you say but the installer does not give a LILO option, it only
warns that the system will not boot without GRUB and forced me to choose
YES... Am thinking on making a new installation to findout how to use the
expert mode, perhaps in such way I will be able to make a more detaile
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 05:52:28PM EST, Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 03. 12. 2009 20:15:40 je Chris Jones napisal(a):
>
> > OK, so apt-get install os-prober + update-grub to rebuild grub.cfg.
>
> Right. Did that, and things seem better now: the other Lenny system on
> the other partition was detected.
Hello
First of all I want to thank all your kind responses, it will help me a
lot to start using Debian. I will write a single message with comments for
all those who replied to me, to avoid flooding the list:
Wolodja:
Now I know that not all of the DVDs are necessary. Respect the 'expert'
mode i
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 09:29:57AM -0700, deb...@toursbymexico.com wrote:
> Hello
>
> I'm new to Debian, have used Slackware for years but latest release was a
> mess so I decided to move to Debian and give it a try, however I have some
> doubts and need to complete my configuration to keep workin
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 12:55:14AM +0530, Foss User wrote:
> I am using Squeeze. I booted successfully many times using the
> chainloaded grub2. So, I thought it would be safe to replace grub with
> grub2.
>
> So, I tried running update-from-grub-legacy but this command was not
> present even whil
On Thursday 03 December 2009 02:12 pm, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:
> > No, but it help your users to decrease the amount of code with unsafe
> > data at a very low prize for your server performance or security ;-)
>
> My worries come from the fact that many emai
Dne, 03. 12. 2009 23:13:24 je Gilles Mocellin napisal(a):
>
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="video=radeonfb:mode_option=1024x768 splash"
>
Thanx.
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On Thursday 03 December 2009 03:34 am, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>
> I'll look into Mondorescue. What is its preferred backup media? Only
> storage devices I have on the box are an HD and 3.5 floppy.
>
> I was really hoping I could just go disk-disk and be done with it, using
> something like ghost, o
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 10:16:09PM +0100, Nick Douma wrote:
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> Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> > Mathieu Malaterre put forth on 12/3/2009 12:03 PM:
[snip]
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
> >
> > You are up against an _intentional_ design limitatio
Curious if anyone has used something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119257 with Lenny.
I have an old HP desktop running Lenny with 2 hdd: hda and hdb, using IDE
connections, with hda jumper set to Master and hdb set to Slave. Currently
hdb is 80 gb and ext3 form
...
On Sun,09.Aug.09, 05:32:55, Long Wind wrote:
> I use sarge
> When I reboot/halt, the speaker beeps
> Is there any way to config speaker not to beep?
Could it be that the sound card beeps when booting (at the BIOS
level of booting)?
(My motherboard's sound chip generates a low
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 12:03:12AM +0100, Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 03. 12. 2009 23:52:28 je Klistvud napisal(a):
>
> What I still don't get, though, is where to put kernel parameters
> in these grub scripts? If I put them in grub.cfg, they'll just get
> overwritten the next time update-grub is run
Dne, 03. 12. 2009 23:52:28 je Klistvud napisal(a):
What I still don't get, though, is where to put kernel parameters
in these grub scripts? If I put them in grub.cfg, they'll just get
overwritten the next time update-grub is run ...
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Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Javier Barroso wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Mathieu Malaterre
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> Excellent FAQ indeed !
>
>> I think you will have to disable -nolisten option in X see this bug
>> for reference:
>> http://bugs.debian.org/cg
Dne, 03. 12. 2009 20:15:40 je Chris Jones napisal(a):
> OK, so apt-get install os-prober + update-grub to rebuild grub.cfg.
Right. Did that, and things seem better now: the other Lenny system on
the other partition was detected. Must dig into the scripts in /etc/
grub.d now. I was used to editin
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Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Mathieu Malaterre put forth on 12/3/2009 12:03 PM:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I am trying to setup a system with software RAID for the first time.
>> I used a debian/stable/503 USB key installer. During the partitioning
>> I selected e
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 06:25:40PM +0100, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:09 PM, S Scharf wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Mathieu Malaterre
> > wrote:
[...]
> >> For the first time I am trying to install debian on a system with
> >> multiple disk. I was hoping tha
On Thursday 03 December 2009 20:07:14 Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Jesús:
> > By removing your server's MTA and let the end users to deal with mail
> > transfer you'll certainly close another one so your point is, again?
>
> Not that. I just suppose that removing clamav wi
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Mathieu Malaterre put forth on 12/3/2009 12:03 PM:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I am trying to setup a system with software RAID for the first time.
>> I used a debian/stable/503 USB key installer. During the partitioning
>> I selected each FREE SPACE
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 03:10:19PM EST, Tom H wrote:
> >> Is the os-prober package installed?
>
> > Nope...
>
> They may or may not be an os-prober package but when it comes to grub,
> os-prober is a script in /etc/grub.d (/etc/grub.d/30_os-prober). If it
> is executable, it will add the kernels
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 12:20:02PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Mathieu Malaterre put forth on 12/3/2009 12:03 PM:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I am trying to setup a system with software RAID for the first time.
> > I used a debian/stable/503 USB key installer. During the partitioning
> > I selected
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 07:21:10AM -0700, gham...@sv-phoenix.com wrote:
> Quoting Patrick Wiseman :
>
> >On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, wrote:
> >>I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the things
[snip]
Its rather strange you can boot to single mode and not into n
On 12/3/09, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> AFAICT from 'man sources.list' in your case it should be enough to list
> the custom repository first in your sources.list.
>
Doesn't seem to make a difference here. The other method works for
aptitude, but not for Synaptic.
Thank you
Liviu
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On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:12:53 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:
>
>> No, but it help your users to decrease the amount of code with unsafe
>> data at a very low prize for your server performance or security ;-)
>
> My worries come from the fact that many emai
>> Is the os-prober package installed?
> Nope...
They may or may not be an os-prober package but when it comes to grub,
os-prober is a script in /etc/grub.d (/etc/grub.d/30_os-prober). If it
is executable, it will add the kernels that it finds to
/boot/grub/grub.cfg when update-grub is run.
>>
Thank You for Your time and answer, Jochen:
> What's worse: the mail server being taken over by an attacker, or
> several workstations at once?
Personally, I do not trust the local network I have the deal with - much more
than the Internet... So, for me it is much better to protect the server -
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:
> No, but it help your users to decrease the amount of code with unsafe
> data at a very low prize for your server performance or security ;-)
My worries come from the fact that many email-related services are run w/ root
privileges - therefore, if
Thank You for Your time and answer, Jesús:
> By removing your server's MTA and let the end users to deal with mail
> transfer
> you'll certainly close another one so your point is, again?
Not that. I just suppose that removing clamav will close one porential security
hole. MTA I would remain.
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 02:03:44PM EST, Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 03. 12. 2009 18:26:09 je Chris Jones napisal(a):
> >
> > Is the os-prober package installed?
>
> Nope...
OK, so apt-get install os-prober + update-grub to rebuild grub.cfg.
> > The documentation tells you not to do that, but rather
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:00:14 -0700
gham...@sv-phoenix.com wrote:
> I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the
> things that was recommended was to do
>
> apt-get upgrade && apt-get update
FTR, this is backward - first update, then upgrade.
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On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 09:29 -0700, deb...@toursbymexico.com wrote:
> I'm new to Debian, have used Slackware for years but latest release was a
> mess so I decided to move to Debian and give it a try,
Welcome!
> 1) How can I disable the graphical login and/or avoid X11 to start
> automatically?
On Qui, 03 Dez 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Tue,01.Dec.09, 16:23:22, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
The information on this page is incorrect. The interpretation of the
"localpart" of an email address depends on the receiving system. It may or
may not be case-sensitive there. Therefore, case
On Tue,01.Dec.09, 22:10:01, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> Dear all
> Is it possible to configure the order of preference of Debian
> repositories? I get a package with the same version, for the same
> architecture, for the same target (testing), but from two different
> repositories. And I always prefer
On Tue,01.Dec.09, 16:23:22, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 December 2009 16:10:01 Liviu Andronic wrote:
> > Do you know how to write?
> > http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail
>
> The information on this page is incorrect. The interpretation of the
> "local
Mathieu Malaterre put forth on 12/3/2009 12:03 PM:
> Hi there,
>
> I am trying to setup a system with software RAID for the first time.
> I used a debian/stable/503 USB key installer. During the partitioning
> I selected each FREE SPACE as raid, I configured then a RAID0 system.
> And setup a LV
On Tue,01.Dec.09, 19:34:45, Rob Owens wrote:
> You might want to consider using a different desktop environment until
> the bug gets sorted out. Maybe LXDE or XFCE.
+1 for Xfce from me, especially in later incarnations.
Regards,
Andrei
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Hi there,
I am trying to setup a system with software RAID for the first time.
I used a debian/stable/503 USB key installer. During the partitioning
I selected each FREE SPACE as raid, I configured then a RAID0 system.
And setup a LVM volume group on this RAID system.
When setting up the boot
Dne, 03. 12. 2009 18:26:09 je Chris Jones napisal(a):
>
> Is the os-prober package installed?
>
Nope...
>
> The documentation tells you not to do that, but rather edit the
> 'source'
> files in /etc/grub.d and run update-grub.
>
Right. But to get to the 'source' files, you have to have a boo
Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 09:29:57AM -0700, deb...@toursbymexico.com wrote:
>> 4) Is it possible to install LILO instead of GRUB? I know it is better and
>> advanced, but I like LILO... would it be safe to install it without
>> breaking some kind of dependence?
>
> I believe s
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 08:29, wrote:
> Hello
>
> I'm new to Debian, have used Slackware for years but latest release was a
> mess so I decided to move to Debian and give it a try, however I have some
> doubts and need to complete my configuration to keep working while
> learning to use this new d
Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> No that was a user-mistake. You should leave the installer do a first
> 'guided partitioning', then you have access to the software RAID
> partionning. Then for each disk that is marked 'FREE SPACE' you need
> to select it and state 'use for RAID'.
> Once all physical vol
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 08:54:56AM EST, Klistvud wrote:
> Howdie, fellow Debianites!
>
> I've just tried to install Grub2 to my spare Lenny installation. I am
> baffled (not to say disappointed) by the results:
>
> 1. -- kernel automagic configuration hasn't been copied over from the
> legacy m
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:09 PM, S Scharf wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Mathieu Malaterre
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> For the first time I am trying to install debian on a system with
>> multiple disk. I was hoping that the debian installed would be kind
>> enough with me to as
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Mathieu Malaterre <
mathieu.malate...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> For the first time I am trying to install debian on a system with
> multiple disk. I was hoping that the debian installed would be kind
> enough with me to as to propose to group all those phy
Hi there,
For the first time I am trying to install debian on a system with
multiple disk. I was hoping that the debian installed would be kind
enough with me to as to propose to group all those physical volume
into a single LVM group. So that I could just do as usual and spli
this LVM volume gr
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 09:29:57AM -0700, deb...@toursbymexico.com wrote:
> 1) How can I disable the graphical login and/or avoid X11 to start
> automatically? I can't install the nVidia driver since it tells me to stop
> X11 before. And, is it possible to leave it that way, just with the simple
>
Hello
I'm new to Debian, have used Slackware for years but latest release was a
mess so I decided to move to Debian and give it a try, however I have some
doubts and need to complete my configuration to keep working while
learning to use this new distro, so these are my current doubts:
1) How can
gham...@sv-phoenix.com:
> I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the
> things that was recommended was to do
>
> apt-get upgrade && apt-get update
>
> Somehow in the process of doing that, there were some changes to the
> kernel.
Check apt's log files to get a clue
Hi People
I set some limits (/etc/security/ limits.conf) but when you restart the
server the same did not apply the rules, as follows:
* softnproc 8188
* hardnproc 65536
* softnofile 8192
* hardnofile 824692
core file s
On 03/12/2009 16:00, gham...@sv-phoenix.com wrote:
I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the
things that was recommended was to do
apt-get upgrade && apt-get update
Somehow in the process of doing that, there were some changes to the
kernel. Now when I try to boot, I
Hi all,
Recently (in the past couple of weeks) my laptop with Debian squeeze
installed starting getting epilepsy when I close the lid and open it
again. By epilepsy I mean the screen flashes as everything redraws
constantly and the mouse cursor jumps diagonally back and forth. Happens
no matter wh
Quoting Patrick Wiseman :
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, wrote:
I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the things
that was recommended was to do
apt-get upgrade && apt-get update
Somehow in the process of doing that, there were some changes to the kernel.
Now whe
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, wrote:
> I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the things
> that was recommended was to do
>
> apt-get upgrade && apt-get update
>
> Somehow in the process of doing that, there were some changes to the kernel.
> Now when I try to boot, I
I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the
things that was recommended was to do
apt-get upgrade && apt-get update
Somehow in the process of doing that, there were some changes to the
kernel. Now when I try to boot, I get the message "... update kernel
or disable
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 10:13:31 +
Liviu Andronic wrote:
> (wildly off-topic)
> Dear all
> I have a nasty Internet connection that blocks mostly everything but
> HTTP. Thus I cannot access FTP content such as this [1]. Would anyone
> have an idea on how to access FTP content solely by using HTTP?
Howdie, fellow Debianites!
I've just tried to install Grub2 to my spare Lenny installation. I am
baffled (not to say disappointed) by the results:
1. -- kernel automagic configuration hasn't been copied over from the
legacy menu.lst to the new grub.cfg
2. -- chainloader stanzas from the old men
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 22:56 +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> I'm looking to buy a knew laptop. I have been recommended by a few
> people to look at the Lenovo thinkpad X 200 and t 400/500. What are your
> thoughts on these systems? What is positive, what is negative?
As this website has not been m
(wildly off-topic)
Dear all
I have a nasty Internet connection that blocks mostly everything but
HTTP. Thus I cannot access FTP content such as this [1]. Would anyone
have an idea on how to access FTP content solely by using HTTP?
Thank you
Liviu
[1] ftp://ftpext.usgs.gov/pub/cr/co/fort.collins/
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Javier Barroso wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Mathieu Malaterre
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Javier Barroso wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Mathieu Malaterre
>>> wrote:
Hi there,
I am getting confuse
Ben Pearre wrote:
Hi!
I was seeing that yesterday (cups 1.4.2-3, libpoppler 0.12.2-2) as
well. Today Debian unstable is shipping cups 1.4.2-4 and my printing
works again.
I upgraded - and it certainly gets further than yesterday. My printer
acted as though it was going to print something,
Mark Neidorff put forth on 12/2/2009 5:22 PM:
> On Tuesday 01 December 2009 09:22 pm, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> I currently have a 40GB IDE boot disk in a Lenny server. I boot with
>> LILO, but not INITRD. I have the following partitions:
>>
>> I would like to add a new IDE disk between say 160GB a
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