Re: Fresh lenny install and suspend to ram problems

2009-02-09 Thread Joar Jegleim
Might be a long shot, but I had similar problems on my laptop. It turned out to be the radeonfb module in my case ... This laptop has a radeon mobility 9000 which is supported by xorg's radeon driver which again made it possible for me to use radeonfb to get a nice terminal resolution (tty[1-6]). I

Hardware recommendation for collocation

2009-02-09 Thread Scott Gifford
Hello, I'm considering purchasing a server to run Debian in a collocation facility. In the past I've either leased collocated servers, or just used whatever hardware was handy, but I haven't always been happy with that approach. I'm sure others have done this, and was hoping to get their advice

Re: Does anyone understand terminal job control?

2009-02-09 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 10:37:07AM -0500, "Douglas A. Tutty" was heard to say: > On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 08:27:09PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 07:58:51AM -0500, "Douglas A. Tutty" > > was heard to say: > > > > Perhaps your controller program will have > > > to be

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-09 Thread Daniel Burrows
I think one important thing is to learn more than one language. There are a couple reasons for this, but if I had to give you just one, here is what it would be: In most languages I know, there are certain programming techniques that are considered "difficult", "advanced" or "black magic". T

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 10:07:12PM -0500, Napoleon wrote: > Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > >On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 05:17:33PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >> > >>Plus, it's not like Ada compilers can't have extensions. > > > >If an Ada compiler wants to have an extension and still pass the te

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/09/2009 09:15 PM, Chris Jones wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 08:05:49PM EST, Micha Feigin wrote: [..] The C Programming Language - A language which combines the flexibility and power of assembly language with the readability and maintainablity of assembly language. Funniest quote in a

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-09 Thread Napoleon
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 05:17:33PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Plus, it's not like Ada compilers can't have extensions. If an Ada compiler wants to have an extension and still pass the test as a certified Ada compiler, it has to do extenstions within the frame

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-09 Thread Chris Jones
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 08:05:49PM EST, Micha Feigin wrote: [..] > The C Programming Language - A language which combines the flexibility and > power of assembly language with the readability and maintainablity of > assembly language. Funniest quote in a long time .. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Otvoren B2B i B2C market za sva pravna i fizicka lica

2009-02-09 Thread BiznisMarket Tim
Postovani, Zadovoljstvo nam je da vam predstavimo jedinstveni B2B i B2C market na trzistu dostupan za sva pravna i fizicka lica kao i za sve drzave u okruzenju . Pravna lica (registracija kao prodavac) Sva registrovana pravna lica imaju mogucnost promovisanja svojih proizvoda sa lagera, ka

Re: Laptop

2009-02-09 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Chris Jones wrote: you seem to be right leo & Co does not know it means something like a "free time hacker spirit" in this case :-D bastel - to tinker kunst - art Finjan, Laptophersteller werden immer besser, aber du musst schon genau prüfen wie gut die chipsätze in dem, von dir begehrten note

Re: Trying to replace my router with a Debian machine - but I can't understand my existing setup

2009-02-09 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Aneurin Price wrote: > > Yeah, it's amazing how often restarting things will magically fix > problems. I really ought to remember to try that more often. > > Nye there's a joke about this and a car, so here it is an engineer, el. technician and computer guy are driving a car and it suddenly st

Re: Install Debian GNU/Linux

2009-02-09 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Cahaya Lilin wrote: > Hello all.. > > I want to know is there Debian linux can install by copy the entire files > in the hard disk to another hard disk ?? > > Because i already install linux in my computer and now i want to install > linux in another computer but not install it from the cd, it

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/09/2009 07:05 PM, Micha Feigin wrote: I was looking for a specific quote and ended up finding this page which has some relevant ones for most of this thread. Took out some of the better ones http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Programming http://www.gdargaud.net/Humor/QuotesProgramming.html On M

Re: Evolution: Error loading addressbook

2009-02-09 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Eric, please don't top post Eric Brooks wrote: > Thanks. I did the following: > > sudo chown -R eric:eric /home/eric/.evolution/ > sudo chmod -R 770 /home/eric/.evolution/ > > but that did not resolve the issue. > > Since I can read my email, I was wondering if there are specific > permissions

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-09 Thread Micha Feigin
I was looking for a specific quote and ended up finding this page which has some relevant ones for most of this thread. Took out some of the better ones http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Programming http://www.gdargaud.net/Humor/QuotesProgramming.html On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:27:39 -0600 Ron Johnson wr

Re: IBM thinkpad A22 serial ports and debian

2009-02-09 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
John Lindsay wrote: > I have installed Debian on my Thinkpad A22. Seems to be working fine > except for the wireless. I also have Wine installed as I want to run an > executable program that downloads a file to an FTA receiver via the > serial port. Do I need to 'turn on' the serial port under Li

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/09/2009 05:02 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:57:42PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: Just for the record, Fortran is very much alive and kicking. It's actually a wonderful language for mathematical work and HPC. It's just no longer a hype word. And I'm mostly talking a

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:57:42PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > Just for the record, Fortran is very much alive and kicking. It's actually a > wonderful language for mathematical work and HPC. It's just no longer a hype > word. And I'm mostly talking about fortran 90/95. Fortran 77 is a bit archa

Re: device UUID versus /dev

2009-02-09 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Alex Samad wrote: > On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 08:51:12PM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: >> Hi, >> >> What are the advantages by using >> drives are now identified by UUID >> over than /dev/xxx; > > you don't have to worry about ordering. I prefer to LABEL. that way it > doesn't matter what orde

Re: /etc/issue still showing "Lenny" after upgrading to Sid...

2009-02-09 Thread Carlos Parada
Ok, I see. Thanks. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2009-02-09 22:16 +0100, Carlos Parada wrote: > > > Hi, I've recently upgrading my Debian flavour from Testing to Unstable > but > > I'm still getting reference to Lenny: > > That should change in a few days when a new

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-09 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:19:01 -0500 "Douglas A. Tutty" wrote: > On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 05:00:54PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Sunday 08 February 2009 11:04:42 Martin wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:24:58PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > > And C standard is one

Re: Cloning methods

2009-02-09 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 08:24:49PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > okay in my defence I didn't see the sig's and they were rather excessive > > > > But I though the email mail bits I left were relevant for contexts > > > > > > I suppose I could have given more info on the packages but I left that > >

Re: /etc/issue still showing "Lenny" after upgrading to Sid...

2009-02-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-02-09 22:16 +0100, Carlos Parada wrote: > Hi, I've recently upgrading my Debian flavour from Testing to Unstable but > I'm still getting reference to Lenny: That should change in a few days when a new base-files package enters sid. > car...@debian:~$ cat /etc/issue > Debian GNU/Linux 5.0

/etc/issue still showing "Lenny" after upgrading to Sid...

2009-02-09 Thread Carlos Parada
Hi, I've recently upgrading my Debian flavour from Testing to Unstable but I'm still getting reference to Lenny: car...@debian:~$ cat /etc/issue Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 \n \l car...@debian:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux 5.0

RE: Which programming Language

2009-02-09 Thread Stackpole, Chris
> From: Douglas A. Tutty [mailto:dtu...@vianet.ca] > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:19 AM > Subject: Re: Which programming Language > [snip] > I really suggest that the OP read Understanding Programming Languages by > M. Ben-Ari. It is freely available on the internet (or I can email it, > its

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 05:00:54PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Sunday 08 February 2009 11:04:42 Martin wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:24:58PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > And C standard is one that leaves many features implementation > > defined, unspecified or un

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 05:17:33PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Sunday 08 February 2009 12:14:20 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > Sure, C has ANSI (ISO) standards, but every compiler (including gcc) has > > extensions to it that one almost has to use to get things done. > > I disagree that

Re: Does anyone understand terminal job control?

2009-02-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 08:27:09PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 07:58:51AM -0500, "Douglas A. Tutty" > was heard to say: > > Perhaps your controller program will have > > to be a filter between the process and the terminal: pipe its std-in an > > std-out to the control

Organizuem poezdku na boj Klichko v SH tuttgart

2009-02-09 Thread rebecca
Внимание! Организуем поездку на бой Кличко против Гомеса (21 марта, Штуттгарт). Поддержи своего любимого спортсмена! КИев: 044~492~92~94 Штуттгарт (для групп и турфирм): +49~40~209~341~590 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Cloning methods

2009-02-09 Thread Dotan Cohen
> okay in my defence I didn't see the sig's and they were rather excessive > > But I though the email mail bits I left were relevant for contexts > > > I suppose I could have given more info on the packages but I left that > up the op. > > > sounds like a visa/mastercard ad :) > I didn't mean to p

Fresh lenny install and suspend to ram problems

2009-02-09 Thread Marco Vittorini Orgeas
Hello, I've just installed Lenny on my thinkpad T61 (model 6460).I am posting here because I've googled around and tried some things reported from people with similar issues,but I am starting to be stuck in a deadlock where I feel to just don't get the point of the situation. On my system all se

Re: No-Script, was: Re: [OT] google earth 5.0

2009-02-09 Thread H.S.
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/09/2009 02:19 AM, Adam Hardy wrote: >> Ron Johnson on 05/02/09 12:43, wrote: >>> On 02/05/2009 03:40 AM, Adam Hardy wrote: > [snip] On my old machine I couldn't run FF tolerably without No-script. >>> >>> Please expound. >> >> In terms of speed - with No-script

Re: Fwd: ogg quality problem with ffmpeg

2009-02-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
> The internal ffmpeg vorbis encoder is about the simplest possible > encoder that produces working output. It sounds terrible compared to > the reference encoder, as you saw with your own comparison. On > a typical musical input the ffmpeg encoder set to 128k produces > quality which is obviously

Fwd: mount foo.img problem

2009-02-09 Thread Aneurin Price
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Aneurin Price wrote: > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Thomas H. George > wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 03:28:20PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >>> On Saturday 07 February 2009 13:37:46 Thomas H. George wrote: >>> > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:44:47AM

RE: Cloning methods

2009-02-09 Thread Stackpole, Chris
> -Original Message- > From: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [mailto:edua...@kalinowski.com.br] > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 2:06 PM > Subject: Re: Cloning methods > > Nagy Daniel wrote: > > Hi, again :) :S > > > > What's the best method for cloning a partition? [searching for an > > open-sour

Load does not distributes per CPU cores

2009-02-09 Thread Dima
Hello All, I have one box with CPU "Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPUQ6600 @ 2.40GHz" Fresh installation with Etch amd64, kernel 2.6.26-core2-amd64 (backport) The problem consist that load do not distributes per CPU cores . In time when first core loaded 100 % (0% idle), other cores have load a

Re: No-Script, was: Re: [OT] google earth 5.0

2009-02-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/09/2009 02:19 AM, Adam Hardy wrote: Ron Johnson on 05/02/09 12:43, wrote: On 02/05/2009 03:40 AM, Adam Hardy wrote: [snip] On my old machine I couldn't run FF tolerably without No-script. Please expound. In terms of speed - with No-script disabled, the javascript on many websites c

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-09 Thread Nuno Magalhães
> Standards can't cover every use case, and the C/C++ ones don't really cover > enough. They're a work in progress. The STL is already included in the standard and most likely the Boost libraries will be part of C++0x. Nuno Magalhães -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.

Re: No-Script, was: Re: [OT] google earth 5.0

2009-02-09 Thread Adam Hardy
Ron Johnson on 05/02/09 12:43, wrote: On 02/05/2009 03:40 AM, Adam Hardy wrote: Paul Cartwright on 03/02/09 12:42, wrote: On Tue February 3 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: That page never shows up although NoScript has the permissions set, it is related to that, because as another user who does not h