Re: How to force ifup to wait for dhcp?

2008-07-20 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun July 20 2008 23:44:55 Andrei Popescu wrote: > I think I'm missing something obvious, but how can DHCP succeed before > the AP authentication? You're right, it can't. But if there's a way to make DHCP wait for AP authentication I haven't found it. Fortunately, DHCP retries a few times. --M

Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Bruno Voigt
Florian Kulzer wrote: > Based on what Kent has posted, can you run iceweasel as root? > Yes. that works. I am also using KDE, the kde package was in state pn, so I reinstalled it. Iceweasel still crashes when run as normal user. > After it has crashed, grep for "EACCES" in the strace file; that

Re: Changing locale for X session

2008-07-20 Thread Shachar Or
On Monday 21 July 2008 07:05, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Shachar Or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is because Hebrew is RTL and it is confusing when combined with LTR; > > not to mention that the console doesn't even print RTL correctly, but in > > reverse! (where

Re: How to force ifup to wait for dhcp?

2008-07-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,20.Jul.08, 23:24:23, Mike Bird wrote: > How does one force ifup to wait for dhcp? > > The Lenny laptops here start wlan0. AP authentication > and DHCP both occur independently in the background. > Up to half a minute elapses before AP authentication > has occured, DHCP has retried, and DHC

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-20 Thread Shachar Or
On Monday 21 July 2008 02:54, Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > Consider submitting a patch instead. I suspect few have this problem. > > Yes, because everyone is a developer. Be positive, please! -- Shachar Or | שחר אור http://ox.freeallweb.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-20 Thread Shachar Or
On Monday 21 July 2008 02:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 00:04 +0300, Shachar Or wrote: > > On Sunday 20 July 2008 23:55, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > BTW, let me know when Debian finally gets MB 4/5 to work out of the > > > box as forward/back. Only been a decade since those becam

How to force ifup to wait for dhcp?

2008-07-20 Thread Mike Bird
How does one force ifup to wait for dhcp? The Lenny laptops here start wlan0. AP authentication and DHCP both occur independently in the background. Up to half a minute elapses before AP authentication has occured, DHCP has retried, and DHCP has succeeded. By then, openvpn has gotten very confus

Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Bruno Voigt wrote: I'm currently not able to start iceweasel ii iceweasel 3.0.1-1 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla ii iceweasel-gnome-support 3.0.1-1 Suppo

Re: OT: Audiophile grade music server using several flavors of Debian

2008-07-20 Thread Jochen Schulz
Nick Lidakis: > > I had been researching way to assemble an audiophile grade music server > since early last year for my dedicated listening room. There were > several ready to go retail (Sonos, Slim Devices, McIntosh, etc.) I don't know whether it suits audiophile needs, but this is my set

my ip was previously banned at http://forums.debian.net/

2008-07-20 Thread stabbyjones
I have a static ip from my new isp and apparently it's been banned from http://forums.debian.net/ Is there any way to get it unbanned? because it's banned i can't find any admin to contact and i can't browse posts. it also can't be changed without paying. alternatively a way to cut debian forums

Re: Changing locale for X session

2008-07-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Shachar Or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is because Hebrew is RTL and it is confusing when combined with LTR; > not to mention that the console doesn't even print RTL correctly, but in > reverse! (where do I file a bug for this?) I think RTL support on the con

Re: [FIXED] Re: Loss of Flash Player capabilities in IW3.0

2008-07-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Nick Lidakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kelly Clowers wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 07/20/08 14:01, Kelly Clowers wrote: >>> [snip]

Re: apt-get/aptitude bustage with gnucash

2008-07-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 09:36:15PM -, Cameron Hutchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > I have just attempted a dist-upgrade with bost apt-get and aptitude, > and both of them want to remove gnucash from my system (sid). This seems > to be busted. > > At the moment there is a new gnuc

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jul 20 14:20 -0500]: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/20/08 13:01, Nick Lidakis wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > >> > >> Most of you will yawn, and think, "there he goes again", but this > >> why I don't like display managers.

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jul 20 13:02 -0500]: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 09:59:22 -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: > > Nope. > > > > $ grep -B1 -A4 'drivers/' /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > (II) LoadModule: "radeon" > > [...] > > > (==) RADEON(0): Using XAA acceleration architectu

Re: apt-get/aptitude bustage with gnucash

2008-07-20 Thread Cameron Hutchison
"Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Cameron Hutchison wrote: >> >> At the moment there is a new gnucash-common (2.2.4-2) but no new gnucash >> package to match. Normally that's ok and apt will not upgrade >> gnucash-common, but for some reason, this time it wants to upgrade >> gnu

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 16:54 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > Interestingly enough, about once a decade is about how often I come > > across a mouse with a fourth and fifth button. It's happened once, and > > that was about a decade ago. > > Well, there's not accounting for

Re: VirtualBox WinXP host, Linux Partition guest?

2008-07-20 Thread Steve Lamb
Wackojacko wrote: Is this a typo in the e-mail or the command? Was me fat fingering it. Sure enough, put the h in and it worked. Thanks much for a second application of the clue-by-four. ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contac

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-20 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: Interestingly enough, about once a decade is about how often I come across a mouse with a fourth and fifth button. It's happened once, and that was about a decade ago. Well, there's not accounting for the technological backwoods of the PRO. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-20 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: Consider submitting a patch instead. I suspect few have this problem. Yes, because everyone is a developer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 00:04 +0300, Shachar Or wrote: > On Sunday 20 July 2008 23:55, Steve Lamb wrote: > > BTW, let me know when Debian finally gets MB 4/5 to work out of the > > box as forward/back. Only been a decade since those became standard on > > most consumer grade mice. :P > > Where

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 13:55 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > BTW, let me know when Debian finally gets MB 4/5 to work out of the > box as forward/back. Only been a decade since those became standard on > most consumer grade mice. :P Interestingly enough, about once a decade is about how often I c

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Anders Lagerås
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:15:27 -0400 Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Anders Lagerås wrote: > | On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:23:17 -0400 > | Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > |> Anders Lagerås wrote: > |>Bug report on it's way > |>

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 06:15:27PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > Anders Lagerås wrote: > | On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:23:17 -0400 > | Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > |> Anders Lagerås wrote: > |>Bug report on it's way > |> > |>What's the easiest way to downgrade? I have never had to do

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:15:27 -0400 Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Anders Lagerås wrote: > | On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:23:17 -0400 > | Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > |> Anders Lage

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anders Lagerås wrote: | On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:23:17 -0400 | Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | |> Anders Lagerås wrote: |>Bug report on it's way |> |>What's the easiest way to downgrade? I have never had to do this. | Using aptitude is the ea

Re: [FIXED] Re: Loss of Flash Player capabilities in IW3.0

2008-07-20 Thread Nick Lidakis
Kelly Clowers wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/08 14:01, Kelly Clowers wrote: [snip] Personally, I prefer Adobe's Flash 10 beta. It seems to have smoother playback and some report lower cpu us

Re: Automating the configuration of alsa on known HW

2008-07-20 Thread Shachar Or
On Thursday 17 July 2008 06:28, Chris Bannister wrote: > What are you trying to achieve? I am installing on multiple, identical machines, completely non-interactively, using preseed and a script. Many things are already taken care of -- this wasn't an easy task. Anyway! I am trying to achieve

Re: apt-get/aptitude bustage with gnucash

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 09:36:15PM -, Cameron Hutchison wrote: > I have just attempted a dist-upgrade with bost apt-get and aptitude, > and both of them want to remove gnucash from my system (sid). This seems > to be busted. > > At the moment there is a new gnucash-common (2.2.4-2) but no new

Re: Changing locale for X session

2008-07-20 Thread Thilo Six
Shachar Or wrote the following on 20.07.2008 21:02 > Hi! > > Using etch. Using kdm. > > I've found that I can put stuff in ~/.xsession. I put 'export > LC_ALL=he_IL.UTF-8' there. That made the xserver start and quit, putting me > back in kdm. in kde you can use a shell script like (chmod 700)

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-20 Thread Arthur A
Brian Marshall wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:55:13 -0700 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BTW, let me know when Debian finally gets MB 4/5 to work out of the box as forward/back. Only been a decade since those became standard on most consumer grade mice. :P I recently did a lenny

Re: Automating the configuration of alsa on known HW

2008-07-20 Thread Shachar Or
On Tuesday 15 July 2008 20:12, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > When running alsaconf as root, it adds your soundcard(s) > to /etc/modprobe.d/sound and /etc/modprobe.conf alsaconf doesn't create the /etc/modprobe.conf in this machine. Copying the /etc/modprobe.d/sound doesn't seem to make audio work

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Anders Lagerås
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:23:17 -0400 Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anders Lagerås wrote: >Bug report on it's way > >What's the easiest way to downgrade? I have never had to do this. Using aptitude is the easiest way. If you select the libgtk row and press enter will the description sho

Re: apt-get/aptitude bustage with gnucash

2008-07-20 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Cameron Hutchison wrote: > I have just attempted a dist-upgrade with bost apt-get and aptitude, > and both of them want to remove gnucash from my system (sid). This seems > to be busted. > > At the moment there is a new gnucash-common (2.2.4-2) but no new gnucash > package to match. Normally that

apt-get/aptitude bustage with gnucash

2008-07-20 Thread Cameron Hutchison
I have just attempted a dist-upgrade with bost apt-get and aptitude, and both of them want to remove gnucash from my system (sid). This seems to be busted. At the moment there is a new gnucash-common (2.2.4-2) but no new gnucash package to match. Normally that's ok and apt will not upgrade gnucas

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Frank
Anders Lagerås wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:20:20 +0200 Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After the latest upgrades to Sid. I am getting a segmentation fault running (or trying to run) my mail reader Sylpheed. Where to start looking ?? Use reportbug to report the bug. Then downgrade libgkt2

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-20 Thread Brian Marshall
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:55:13 -0700 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, let me know when Debian finally gets MB 4/5 to work out of > the box as forward/back. Only been a decade since those became > standard on most consumer grade mice. :P > I recently did a lenny install and those

Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 20:27:12 +0200, Bruno Voigt wrote: > Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:22:38 -0500, Kent West wrote: > > > >> Bruno Voigt wrote: > >> > >>> I'm currently not able to start iceweasel > >>> > >>> ii iceweasel 3.0.1-

Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 15:11:20 -0500, Kent West wrote: > Kent West wrote: >> Kent West wrote: >>> Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:22:38 -0500, Kent West wrote: > Bruno Voigt wrote: > >> I'm currently not able to start iceweasel >> >> ii iceweas

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-20 Thread Shachar Or
On Sunday 20 July 2008 23:55, Steve Lamb wrote: > BTW, let me know when Debian finally gets MB 4/5 to work out of the > box as forward/back. Only been a decade since those became standard on > most consumer grade mice. :P Where do I file a bug for this? Seriously. I've a zillion buttons in m

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-20 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > So I guess that's why Ubuntu folks are working on Ubuntu instead of > doing the Right Thing by working on Debian Desktop[1], eh? Yeah, because it has nothing to do with wanting to maintain a 6 month release schedule. Let's see, the first release of Ubuntu was 4.10. So s

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Frank
Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Sunday 20 July 2008 04:19:09 pm Frank wrote: Frank wrote: After the latest upgrades to Sid. I am getting a segmentation fault running (or trying to run) my mail reader Sylpheed. Where to start looking ?? I have since discovered I can run Sylpheed as root. Cheers

Re: Glacial ClearWire Download

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 03:24:19PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > I'm having to download a lot of data via an aptitude dist-upgrade, and > the download process is glacial, pulling down 6Kbs or 90Kbs, dial-up to > just-barely-better-than dial-up speeds. I'm using ClearWire, but saw > even slower sp

Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Kent West
Frank wrote: Kent West wrote: New clue. I just discovered that "sudo iceweasel" works. My problems sounds like yours...except I can run Iceweasel. It's Sylpheed I can't run...except as root. I'm not seeing my messages getting through to debian-user, so I'm CC:ing Frank on this. I've

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Sunday 20 July 2008 04:19:09 pm Frank wrote: > Frank wrote: > > After the latest upgrades to Sid. I am getting a segmentation fault > > running (or trying to run) my mail reader Sylpheed. > > > > Where to start looking ?? > >I have since discovered I can run Sylpheed as root. > > Cheers > >

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
please reply to the list instead of to me directly. On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 04:22:24PM -0400, Frank wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 04:10:08PM -0400, Frank wrote: >>> After the latest upgrades to Sid. I am getting a segmentation fault >>> running (or trying to r

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Kent West
Frank wrote: Frank wrote: After the latest upgrades to Sid. I am getting a segmentation fault running (or trying to run) my mail reader Sylpheed. Where to start looking ?? I have since discovered I can run Sylpheed as root. FYI: I'm seeing similar problems with Iceweasel. I can run

Glacial ClearWire Download

2008-07-20 Thread Kent West
I'm having to download a lot of data via an aptitude dist-upgrade, and the download process is glacial, pulling down 6Kbs or 90Kbs, dial-up to just-barely-better-than dial-up speeds. I'm using ClearWire, but saw even slower speeds on Xanadoo (also a wireless ISP). A Windows computer in another

Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Bruno Voigt wrote: I'm currently not able to start iceweasel ii iceweasel 3.0.1-1 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla ii iceweasel-gnome-support 3.0.1-1 Sup

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Frank
Frank wrote: After the latest upgrades to Sid. I am getting a segmentation fault running (or trying to run) my mail reader Sylpheed. Where to start looking ?? I have since discovered I can run Sylpheed as root. Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subjec

Re: [FIXED] Re: Loss of Flash Player capabilities in IW3.0

2008-07-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/20/08 14:01, Kelly Clowers wrote: > [snip] >> >> Personally, I prefer Adobe's Flash 10 beta. It seems to have smoother >> playback and some report lower cpu usage. >

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 04:10:08PM -0400, Frank wrote: > After the latest upgrades to Sid. I am getting a segmentation fault > running (or trying to run) my mail reader Sylpheed. > > Where to start looking ?? have you logged out and back in yet? restarted X yet? maybe even restarted the machine

Re: OT: Audiophile grade music server using several flavors of Debian

2008-07-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,19.Jul.08, 15:37:00, Nick Lidakis wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> - >> Mark it [OT] and post away! > > Thanks... > > Just thought someone could benefit from this application, or I could > receive some constructive criticism on some of choices I had made. I would only like to give my setup

Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:22:38 -0500, Kent West wrote: Bruno Voigt wrote: I'm currently not able to start iceweasel ii iceweasel 3.0.1-1 lightweight web browser base

Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Frank
After the latest upgrades to Sid. I am getting a segmentation fault running (or trying to run) my mail reader Sylpheed. Where to start looking ?? Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:22:38 -0500, Kent West wrote: Bruno Voigt wrote: I'm currently not able to start iceweasel ii iceweasel 3.0.1-1 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla ii

Re: Switch-off problem

2008-07-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:46:16AM +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Recently my computer devolped a new problem: it sometimes does not > switch itself off when I do shutdown -h now. It hangs somewhere > during the shutdown procedure, and has to be switched off by m

Re: Changing locale for X session

2008-07-20 Thread Bob Cox
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 19:33:30 +0300, Shachar Or ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sunday 20 July 2008 18:55, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > > > Hello! > > >=20 > > > How do I set the locale for a user to something other than the one set = > > > > by=20 > > > > > debconf in the locales package? > >

Re: [FIXED] Re: Loss of Flash Player capabilities in IW3.0

2008-07-20 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/08 14:01, Kelly Clowers wrote: [snip] > > Personally, I prefer Adobe's Flash 10 beta. It seems to have smoother > playback and some report lower cpu usage. How stable is it? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "Kittens give Morbo gas.

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/08 13:01, Nick Lidakis wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> >> Most of you will yawn, and think, "there he goes again", but this >> why I don't like display managers. > > Can you elaborate? With a display manager one cannot kill X to make new >

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/08 12:44, Florian Kulzer wrote: [snip] > > OK, our mini-survey so far: > > nvidia driver using nvidia's RenderAccel: fine (Hugo, Ron) Actually, I do *not* have RenderAccel enabled. $ grep 'Accel\|XAA\|EXA' /var/log/Xorg.0.log (II) NVIDIA(0

Re: [FIXED] Re: Loss of Flash Player capabilities in IW3.0

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:01:17PM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Andrew Sackville-West > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > well, you still aren't running the debian version, but instead running > > the adobe installed version. There's nothing inherently wrong with

Re: Changing locale for X session

2008-07-20 Thread Shachar Or
Hi! Using etch. Using kdm. I've found that I can put stuff in ~/.xsession. I put 'export LC_ALL=he_IL.UTF-8' there. That made the xserver start and quit, putting me back in kdm. I assume that this is because X didn't start any process and it decides to die thus. I assume that this is because

Re: [FIXED] Re: Loss of Flash Player capabilities in IW3.0

2008-07-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > well, you still aren't running the debian version, but instead running > the adobe installed version. There's nothing inherently wrong with > that except that your package manager doesn't have control of the > si

Re: [not about debian] Could someone give me a clue about making a window manager?

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 03:25:44PM +0300, Shachar Or wrote: > On Sunday 20 July 2008 14:32, Magicloud Magiclouds wrote: > > Any suggestions about which one? DWM? I do not know. > > You may want to go with those that do not depend on extra libraries to keep > things simple; not the ones that are p

Re: [FIXED] Re: Loss of Flash Player capabilities in IW3.0

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:30:31AM +0100, andy wrote: > andy wrote: >> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >>> andy wrote: Greetings The following is one of a number of sites (including, for example, parts of the NASA site) where I am told that my version of Flash Player is outdated

Re: Contributing to the Debian website - easier than some think

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 09:39:52AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:23:08AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: >>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:23:55AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: [breaking the thread on purpose because this is totally unrela

Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Bruno Voigt
Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:22:38 -0500, Kent West wrote: > >> Bruno Voigt wrote: >> >>> I'm currently not able to start iceweasel >>> >>> ii iceweasel 3.0.1-1 >>> lightweight web browser based on Mozilla

Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Kent West
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:22:38 -0500, Kent West wrote: Bruno Voigt wrote: I'm currently not able to start iceweasel ii iceweasel 3.0.1-1 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla ii iceweasel-gnome-

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Nick Lidakis
Ron Johnson wrote: Most of you will yawn, and think, "there he goes again", but this why I don't like display managers. Can you elaborate? With a display manager one cannot kill X to make new changes, like the aforementioned libraries, to take effect? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PR

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, our mini-survey so far: > > nvidia driver using nvidia's RenderAccel: fine (Hugo, Ron) > radeon driver with XAA: fine (Bill) > > My experience with Intel 82Q963/Q965 and the Xorg intel driver: > > with EXA: not as b

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 09:59:22 -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: > Jim McCloskey writes: > > > An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me > > Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is > > just agonizingly slow---10-12 seconds between clicking `Bookmarks' in

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Jim McCloskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me > Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is > just agonizingly slow---10-12 seconds between clicking `Bookmarks' in > the Toolbar a

Re: Changing locale for X session

2008-07-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Shachar Or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 20 July 2008 18:55, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: >> export LC_ALL=3D in ~/.Xinitrc ? > When I open up a terminal as that user and type 'echo $L' and press i > can see that there's no such variable. > > I've tried to s

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/08 11:44, Carl Fink wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:24:33AM -0700, Jim McCloskey wrote: >> An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me >> Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is >> just agoniz

Re: Changing locale for X session

2008-07-20 Thread Thilo Six
Shachar Or wrote the following on 20.07.2008 17:47 > Hello! > > How do I set the locale for a user to something other than the one set by > debconf in the locales package? > > This should be the user's default in X sessions. > > I was told that gdm has a feature for this but I'm using kdm. >

Re: Contributing to the Debian website - easier than some think

2008-07-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,20.Jul.08, 11:23:08, Chris Bannister wrote: > > I wonder where you got the info that you need to download the whole > > website, it should be corrected. > > It was in a post on the debian-www mailing list in a thread talking > about whether two spaces after a full stop was acceptable En

Re: [OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]

2008-07-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,19.Jul.08, 18:43:32, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 07/19/08 17:26, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Sat,19.Jul.08, 12:35:37, Paul Johnson wrote: > [snip] > >> Decrease the frequency at which you check your mail? > > > > I just did (from 5 to 15 min). Let's see if this helps. > > If that helps, then

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:24:33AM -0700, Jim McCloskey wrote: > > An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me > Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is > just agonizingly slow---10-12 seconds between clicking `Bookmarks' in > the Toolbar and the disp

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Bill Wohler
Jim McCloskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me > Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is > just agonizingly slow---10-12 seconds between clicking `Bookmarks' in > the Toolbar and the display of the menu. Scroll

Re: Changing locale for X session

2008-07-20 Thread Shachar Or
On Sunday 20 July 2008 18:55, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > export LC_ALL=3D in ~/.Xinitrc ? When I open up a terminal as that user and type 'echo $L' and press i can see that there's no such variable. I've tried to set the $LANG variable via this file and it didn't change it also. I think that

Re: Changing locale for X session

2008-07-20 Thread Shachar Or
On Sunday 20 July 2008 18:55, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > > Hello! > >=20 > > How do I set the locale for a user to something other than the one set = > > by=20 > > > debconf in the locales package? > >=20 > > This should be the user's default in X sessions. > >=20 > > I was told that gdm has a fe

Re: Changing locale for X session

2008-07-20 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
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Changing locale for X session

2008-07-20 Thread Shachar Or
Hello! How do I set the locale for a user to something other than the one set by debconf in the locales package? This should be the user's default in X sessions. I was told that gdm has a feature for this but I'm using kdm. Cheers! -- Shachar Or | שחר אור http://ox.freeallweb.org/ -- To UNS

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/08 09:46, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Florian Kulzer wrote: [snip] >> >> I suspect that this might have something to do with your video driver >> and the acceleration method that is used. Please post the output of >> these two commands: >> >> gre

Re: Installing nVidia drivers [WAS: Using apt to install only one package]

2008-07-20 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/08 06:13, andy wrote: [snip] > > OK I attempted to update my nVidia driver this weekend as I said I would > earlier this last week. Good for you! > First, I downloaded the latest nVidia installer for my card, which is a > nVidia GeForce 850

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 00:24:33 -0700, Jim McCloskey wrote: An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is just agonizingly slow---10-12 seconds between clicking `Bookmarks' in the Toolbar

Re: Contributing to the Debian website - easier than some think

2008-07-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:23:08AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:23:55AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: [breaking the thread on purpose because this is totally unrelated] On Thu,17.Jul.08, 15:28:09, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2

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Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:22:38 -0500, Kent West wrote: > Bruno Voigt wrote: >> I'm currently not able to start iceweasel >> >> ii iceweasel 3.0.1-1 >> lightweight web browser based on Mozilla >> ii iceweasel-gnome-support

no cd/dvd devices detected after kernel change

2008-07-20 Thread Joe Hickey
Hello, Using 2.6.24-1-686, my two IDE-connected cd/dvd drives are detected as /dev/sr0 and /dev/sr1, symlinked to cdrom0 and cdrom1, and work perfectly. When I boot 2.6.25-2-686-bigmem, no entries for these devices appear in /dev. With the working kernel, the relevant part of dmesg is: scsi7 : S

Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Bruno Voigt
Nyizsnyik Ferenc wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:40:32 +0200 > Bruno Voigt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm currently not able to start iceweasel >> >> ii iceweasel >> 3.0.1-1 lightweight web browser based on >> Mozilla ii icewe

Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Kent West
Bruno Voigt wrote: I'm currently not able to start iceweasel ii iceweasel 3.0.1-1 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla ii iceweasel-gnome-support 3.0.1-1 Support for GNOME in Ice

Re: [Mostly Solved] Re: Blurry fonts in printed invoices

2008-07-20 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 23:51:32 -0400, Celejar wrote: [...] > I've been printing from IW using the virtual CUPS-PDF printer. I just > tried printing to file (direct to PDF, not to ps), and I now get the > same pdffonts output that you do, nice font names but all 'no's in the > sub column. Ah,

Re: Signing local repositories

2008-07-20 Thread Steve Kemp
On Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 20:59:18 +0300, Shachar Or wrote: > I don't know how to sign the repository. I've never used signatures, gnupg or > any of these terms. Can anyone give me a run-down of how to do this? Create a gpg-key, call it somethign like "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Then in your reprepro

Re: Installing nVidia drivers [WAS: Using apt to install only one package]

2008-07-20 Thread Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:13:50PM +0100, andy wrote: > On the GRUB menu, several kernels are now listed - the current one and > then the 2.6.25-x kernel. Because the /boot/grub/menu.lst will > automatically load after about 5 seconds, how would I go about *safely* > removing the other kerne

Re: Help filing bug report; can't use automated tool, does this report look OK?

2008-07-20 Thread Arthur A
Celejar wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:57:52 +0300 Arthur A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... Briefly, what happens is the 'X' randomly crashes without warning, and it is irrecoverable. Any open work is lost. A reboot is required. There is an error in the xorg.log about rng expecting one number,

Re: [not about debian] Could someone give me a clue about making a window manager?

2008-07-20 Thread Shachar Or
On Sunday 20 July 2008 14:32, Magicloud Magiclouds wrote: > Any suggestions about which one? DWM? I do not know. You may want to go with those that do not depend on extra libraries to keep things simple; not the ones that are part of a desktop environment for the same reason. On a different not

Re: Module compilation

2008-07-20 Thread Robin
2008/7/20 Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm following this guide: > > > http://www.debianclan.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=154&Itemid=38 > > . At the step where I do: > > # make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd` > > , the system complains that the above path is n

Re: [not about debian] Could someone give me a clue about making a window manager?

2008-07-20 Thread Magicloud Magiclouds
Any suggestions about which one? DWM? I do not know. Thanks. Shachar Or wrote: On Sunday 20 July 2008 09:04, Magicloud Magiclouds wrote: I want to make a simple WM, but do not know where to start. Look at the dependencies of the x-window-manager virtual package. Look at the sources

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