Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Mark Allums
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 01:25:53PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: >> After a fresh login I'll have about 40-50Mb used, 0 swap. After a few >> hours of FF2.x I'd be maxed on memory and pushing 2/3rds of my 256Mb of >> swap. Close FF and most of the memory and swap go awa

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 10:10:22 pm Mark Allums wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> If only Canada had a nice place to dump spent nuclear fuel the way China > > > > France doesn't have problems with spent nuclear fuel, because they > > use breeder reactors. We should, too. > > The problems with waste

Another problem Postgresql: createdb: could not connect to database postgres: could not connect to server: No such file or directory

2008-04-11 Thread Jaisen N.D.
I have another problem with postgresql 8.1. I have uninstalled the postgresql-8.3 and removed its configuration files, and the user postgres also. Then installed postgresql-8.1. But when I started to create a database, it shows some message like this.. Here is the output I got:- ---

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:52:10 pm Steve Lamb wrote: > Mike Bird wrote: > > You're mistaken Steve. Individuals pass on their tax costs to > > corporations in the form of higher wage demands. Individual income tax > > should be zero. Corporations should be taxed on their profits in order to > > p

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Mark Allums
Ron Johnson wrote: If only Canada had a nice place to dump spent nuclear fuel the way China France doesn't have problems with spent nuclear fuel, because they use breeder reactors. We should, too. The problems with waste are slowly being solved, even without breeders. But you make a good

could not connect to database postgres: could not connect to server

2008-04-11 Thread Jaisen N.D.
I have another problem with postgresql 8.1. I have uninstalled the postgresql-8.3 and removed its configuration files, and the user postgres also. Then installed postgresql-8.1. But when I started to create a database, it shows some message like this.. Here is the output I got:- ---

Re: Xen in Etch, basic setup

2008-04-11 Thread Carl Fink
Just to clarify: if I need 2.6.24 to support my WiFi card, I therefore can not use Xen until some later kernel is released that can support both? I should therefore try one of QEMU/VirtualBox/VMWare/Something Else Entirely? -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read my blog a

Re: Read-only root (/) except /etc

2008-04-11 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:18:08PM -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > Is it possible to have /etc on a separate partition from / (root) so > that root can be read-only while /etc is read-write? You are requesting something like this in the boot loader, use the kernel option init=/pre-init.sh where

Re: swapper fault (kernel problems with 2.6.24)

2008-04-11 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 07:32:19AM +1100, Alex Samad wrote: > On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 12:35:29PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 04/01/08 08:45, Alex Samad wrote: > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> I have been running 2.6.2

Re: Problems with vmware-server-console

2008-04-11 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:06:32PM -0300, Miguel Gaiowski wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:39:17PM -0300, Miguel Gaiowski wrote: > > > Hi, I've been trying to get vmware to work here and I got this issue > > while > >

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Mike Bird wrote: > You're mistaken Steve. Individuals pass on their tax costs to corporations > in the form of higher wage demands. Individual income tax should be zero. > Corporations should be taxed on their profits in order to pay for the > infrastucture and military necessary for corporations

Re: Xen in Etch, basic setup

2008-04-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > What do you mean by "cannot"? Do you mean it will not by design or > cannot due to bugs? curious. Cannot as in every kernel has to be reported to run under Xen. Supposedly the last kernel that can run both Dom0 and DomU is 2.6.18 but Ubuntu apparently has it up

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Mike Bird
On Fri April 11 2008 20:18:33 Steve Lamb wrote: > You are an idiot. Yes, corporate taxes are paid by corporations who > pass the the bill onto individuals. It was 0% before and its 0% now. > Individuals paid it then and individuals pay it now. You just want it back > because it's a secret t

Re: Bochs? Anybody {using,used,know anything about} it?

2008-04-11 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:21:39PM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > Is Bochs fast enough to be practical? about 8 years ago I have seen a install process of windows 95 that needed more than 8 hours to complete on a pentium 166 with debian and bochs. So I expect bochs to be at least 10 times slower

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > Eliminating all > corporate tax breaks would be a good idea, as well: After World War II, > corporations accounted for nearly 40% of US tax revenue, today it's less than > 5%. You are an idiot. Yes, corporate taxes are paid by corporations who pass the the bill onto

Read-only root (/) except /etc

2008-04-11 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Is it possible to have /etc on a separate partition from / (root) so that root can be read-only while /etc is read-write? Regards, Daniel -- And that's my crabbing done for the day. Got it out of the way early, now I have the rest of the afternoon to sniff fragrant tea-roses or strangle cute

euro sign / nobreak space

2008-04-11 Thread Manon Metten
Hi All, In "KDE/Control Center/Keyboard layout/Xkb options", I set "Adding the EuroSign to certain keys" to "Add the EuroSign to the 5 key", coz that's where it is located on my keyboard. At the bottom of the Control Center I read: "setxkbmap -option eurosign:5,compose:menu". (I have set Compose

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 21:30, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 11 April 2008 07:17:19 pm Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote: It does? News to me. Again, study your hist

Re: [OT] reStructured Text real world usage

2008-04-11 Thread s. keeling
T o n g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Maybe, but I'll encourage you to also take a look at AsciiDoc. I'm trying to give it a go. I've plopped sourceforge's tarball into my ~/.emacs.d, and I've added: (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.doc$" . doc-mode)) (autoload 'doc-mode "doc-mode") to my ~/.em

(hopefully perl) API to /etc/network/interfaces?

2008-04-11 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Hi, I know that reading /etc/network/interfaces has been done over and over... has an API been created for editing/writing it? If it's available in perl, or over the commandline, that would be even better :-) Thanks, Tyler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROT

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 07:17:19 pm Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote: > >> It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted > >> economic growth in the history of the US. > > > > Reagan

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 19:54, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: [snip] > > You would write a script that would pole the relavant data. Probably That's just *disgusting*. Or I'm a dirty old man. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA We want... a Shrubbery!! -BEG

Re: pon oddities - ppp status now works: timing issue

2008-04-11 Thread A. F. Cano
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:09:49PM -0400, A. F. Cano wrote: > ... And following up to my remaining problem, it is now solved. ip-up.local was executing the command that popped up the pppstatus window too quickly. The ppp link was not completely up yet and so pppstatus couldn't see it. A "sleep 1"

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 20:37, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:22:10PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> That just violates basic economic principals, setting the price below the >> balance of supply and demand, especially given we're talking

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 21:12, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 11 April 2008 05:19:08 pm Mark Allums wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >> >>> Health care would be a big one. >> >> >> >> And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different, >> >> and pe

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote: > >> It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted >> economic growth in the history of the US. > > Reagan was still starr

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 05:19:08 pm Mark Allums wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> Health care would be a big one. > >> > >> And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different, > >> and people so much more eager to sue. > > > > Depends on the country. In France, they pay less t

Re: Bochs? Anybody {using,used,know anything about} it?

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 06:21:39 pm Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > Greetings, > > Just stumbled over some software known as Bochs. It > sounds as if I could install that on my Debian 4.0 > system and then be able to run Win 2k as needed in a > "partition" when needed. > > Is Bochs fast enough to be pract

Re: Problems with vmware-server-console

2008-04-11 Thread Miguel Gaiowski
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:39:17PM -0300, Miguel Gaiowski wrote: > > Hi, I've been trying to get vmware to work here and I got this issue > while > > compiling the kernel module. > > > > I'm using Debian Lenny, kernel 2.6.24

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Marc Shapiro
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 07:10:04AM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: Is there any way, instead of restricting a resource, to have a command executed when a setpoint for a given resource is reached? Say, when FF uses 200M of virtual memory, or over 30% of CPU, a job runs whi

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Bob McGowan wrote: > I second those suggestions, but have one thing to add: learn regex > syntax, and learn it well. They can be "mind benders", but if you don't > know how to use them, your use of UNIX/Linux command line utilities will > suffer. T'hell with command line. Without regex your

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote: > It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted > economic growth in the history of the US. Reagan was still starring in movies or acting as the president of the labor union he was a member of during much of t

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > Python certainly is more rational, but what the ad means is "solid > shell (which implies sed & awk) and Perl experience required". That's a tad presumptuous. In my area the rare ads I see for Linux/Unix work which mention scripting go on to specify that Perl/Python/Ruby

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Daniel Mahoney wrote: > Though I find Python to be clearer and easier to write, Perl would > probably be a good choice. There are a lot more tools out there written > in Perl than those written in Python. Whereas Python is on the rise while Perl is declining. At least if you believe ohloh.net

Re: Problems with vmware-server-console

2008-04-11 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:39:17PM -0300, Miguel Gaiowski wrote: > Hi, I've been trying to get vmware to work here and I got this issue while > compiling the kernel module. > > I'm using Debian Lenny, kernel 2.6.24-686 and here's the output I get: > [snip] sounds like you need the vmware any any

Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal

2008-04-11 Thread Owen Townend
> > > And for real technicolor stuff, hunt for the kernelnewbies fortunes > file; selected quotes from lkml: > > - > "I want you guys to look at your computer screen, imagining the worst > monster you can (the cacodeamon from Quake will do, just make him > hairie

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 03:23:57AM +0200, s. keeling wrote: > I strongly agree, and this knowledge is portable. All of the *nix > tools, including shell, perl, and python, rely on regex > understanding. One can get along just fine in python without using regex. I'm living proof. Sure, the reg

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 02:01:43 pm Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote: > > [snip] > > >>> Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with those > >>> tax

Problems with vmware-server-console

2008-04-11 Thread Miguel Gaiowski
Hi, I've been trying to get vmware to work here and I got this issue while compiling the kernel module. I'm using Debian Lenny, kernel 2.6.24-686 and here's the output I get: == None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Server is suitable for your running kernel. Do you want this program t

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:22:10PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > That just violates basic economic principals, setting the price below the > balance of supply and demand, especially given we're talking about an > international commodities market and thus don't have the aboslute authority > to m

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread s. keeling
Bob McGowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > I keep coming up against a wall "Solid scripting experience required" > > in my job search (for Linux sys admin). IYHO, what would be the one > > scripting language to learn? > > Several other responses suggest "sh", with "awk" a

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 04/11/08 13:47, Daniel Mahoney wrote: > > Damon L. Chesser wrote: > >> I keep coming up against a wall "Solid scripting experience required" > >> in my job search (for Linux sys admin). IYHO, what would be the one > >> scripting language to learn? > > > >

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:40:05 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote: > The fact that China is sucking up all the oil they can buy on the free > market has nothing to do with $100/barrel, does it? You are confusing correlation with causation. China's been industrializing for the last 20 years now. Oil

Bochs? Anybody {using,used,know anything about} it?

2008-04-11 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
Greetings, Just stumbled over some software known as Bochs. It sounds as if I could install that on my Debian 4.0 system and then be able to run Win 2k as needed in a "partition" when needed. Is Bochs fast enough to be practical? I have a P4, 1.5GB mem. What I do right now is use several ne

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 07:10:04AM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > Is there any way, instead of restricting a resource, to have a command > executed when a setpoint for a given resource is reached? Say, when FF > uses 200M of virtual memory, or over 30% of CPU, a job runs which pops > up a warning

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:21:42PM +0200, Jean-Louis Crouzet wrote: >> > >Thanks for this thread I thought I was alone with my Iceweasel issues... > >Basically I'm running Lenny with optimized kernel but still low memory > >configuration (512MB) on a Dell Pentium III. 512MB considered low-memory

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 02:55:55PM -0700, Bob McGowan wrote: > Damon L. Chesser wrote: > >I keep coming up against a wall "Solid scripting experience required" > >in my job search (for Linux sys admin). IYHO, what would be the one > >scripting language to learn? > > > > Several other responses

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread s. keeling
Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I keep coming up against a wall "Solid scripting experience required" > in my job search (for Linux sys admin). IYHO, what would be the one > scripting language to learn? Bourne/Korn/Born Again shell, perl, and python, not necessarily in that order.

Re: [OT] How to add fortune output to terminal

2008-04-11 Thread s. keeling
Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >An extract from my .bashrc > > if [ -x /usr/games/fortune ]; then >echo; /usr/games/fortune -a; echo > fi > >Also, IIRC, the default 'fortunes-mod' package includes only a single data > file which has no 'offensive' fortunes, so unless you add

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Owen Townend
On 12/04/2008, Bob McGowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > > I keep coming up against a wall "Solid scripting experience required" > > in my job search (for Linux sys admin). IYHO, what would be the one > > scripting language to learn? > > > > > Several other responses

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Mark Allums
Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Health care would be a big one. >> And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different, >> and people so much more eager to sue. > > Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with those taxes they get college and healthcare at no extra charg

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 17:40, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 04:01:43PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> Just because >>> he's >>> dead

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:45:39AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 11:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> [snip] > >>> I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinde

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 04:01:43PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Just because > > he's > > dead now doesn't mean he didn't have good ideas that worked wonders, > > contrary > > to what Rush

Re: [OT] reStructured Text real world usage

2008-04-11 Thread T o n g
On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:12:03 -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > Inspired by the easy to use wiki syntax, I've been looking around for > similar markups that allow for basic "rich text" output. > > The most promising markup I came across is reStructured Text. It is quite > straightforward to use a

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 02:41:00PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/11/08 13:02, Kevin Mark wrote: > [snip] > > Thunderbird is a brand of cheap alcohol mostly drunk by winos --bums. It > > Shame on you for insinuating such a mean thing about the Differently > Drinking the soberly impaired?

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Bob McGowan
Damon L. Chesser wrote: I keep coming up against a wall "Solid scripting experience required" in my job search (for Linux sys admin). IYHO, what would be the one scripting language to learn? Several other responses suggest "sh", with "awk" and "sed", etc. I second those suggestions, but h

Re: libsqlclient15off

2008-04-11 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 08:44:16PM -0400, Marc Auslander wrote: > The slim project recently ran afoul of something in the debian > packages. They had been requirement libsqlclient15-dev (or 14-dev) > and a user pointed out that they should only depend on the client - so > they changed to libsqlcli

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 15:40, Damon L. Chesser wrote: [snip] > > your knowledge of Linux is very good. Your knowledge of economics is > not as good. The fact that China is sucking up all the oil they can buy > on the free market has nothing to do with $100/bar

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 15:20, Paul Johnson wrote: [snip] > > We saw what happens under Reagan. It degenerates into the libertarian > dystopia we're approaching now. I hate it when I agree with you... - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA We want... a Shru

Re: Xen in Etch, basic setup

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:58:29AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Tue, April 8, 2008 3:19 pm, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > well, that's just plain frustrating. It's got me worried because my > > xen setup is working great in etch... might have to leave it there for > > a while. > > Well, th

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote: [snip] >>> Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with those >>> taxes they get college and

Re: lenny net instal problem

2008-04-11 Thread ChadDavis
I reburnt several times and finally it worked. Now I've got another issue to check out though ;) On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Andrew Sackville-West < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:39:43PM -0600, ChadDavis wrote: > > When the kernel is uncompressing, I get an > > > >

Re: lenny net instal problem

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:39:43PM -0600, ChadDavis wrote: > When the kernel is uncompressing, I get an > > invalid compressed format (err=1) > > ---System halted > > It seems that others have had this problem due to media issues. I've tried > to reburn the image and that still doesn'

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Paul Johnson wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 11:29:02 am Rich Healey wrote: pfft. i pay $1.60 AUD a litre for diesel. Petrol prices ar buggered everywhere.. which makes me wonder.. why iraq? wasn't freedom.. and based on evidence sure as bloody hell wasn't oil! Worst yet, the way the

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Paul Johnson wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 08:23:19 am Damon L. Chesser wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 1

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 11:29:02 am Rich Healey wrote: > pfft. i pay $1.60 AUD a litre for diesel. > > Petrol prices ar buggered everywhere.. which makes me wonder.. why iraq? > > wasn't freedom.. and based on evidence sure as bloody hell wasn't oil! Worst yet, the way the whole thing was orchest

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:23:19 am Damon L. Chesser wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote: > >>> On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: >

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote: > >>> On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wro

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 13:47, Daniel Mahoney wrote: > Damon L. Chesser wrote: >> I keep coming up against a wall "Solid scripting experience required" >> in my job search (for Linux sys admin). IYHO, what would be the one >> scripting language to learn? >> > Th

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 13:02, Kevin Mark wrote: [snip] > Thunderbird is a brand of cheap alcohol mostly drunk by winos --bums. It Shame on you for insinuating such a mean thing about the Differently Drinking - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA We want.

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 10:21, Jean-Louis Crouzet wrote: [snip] > Flash plugin (whatever the version) is always the root cause of my Which version? (I run Sid.) > Iceweasel lock_up (due to swapping or other...) the number do not really > matter but site such as

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Daniel Mahoney
Damon L. Chesser wrote: I keep coming up against a wall "Solid scripting experience required" in my job search (for Linux sys admin). IYHO, what would be the one scripting language to learn? Though I find Python to be clearer and easier to write, Perl would probably be a good choice. There

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Damon L. Chesser wrote: > I keep coming up against a wall "Solid scripting experience required" > in my job search (for Linux sys admin). IYHO, what would be the one > scripting language to learn? > If you just want to learn one language start with python. If you have flexibility to learn more

Re: how th generate like oficial site from packages (or CD's)

2008-04-11 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Preston Boyington wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Indeed, reprepro is a lot better, I tried it yesterday, and faster too. I invoke reprepro from a C++ program to generate a local mirror of all the packages that a system contains, generated by dpkg-repack, if anybody is interested. Hugo I am

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:45:16PM +, Glenn Becker wrote: > >> I keep coming up against a wall "Solid scripting experience required" >> in my job search (for Linux sys admin). IYHO, what would be the one >> scripting language to learn? > > I would learn straight shell (sh) ... it's clunkier

Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Glenn Becker
I keep coming up against a wall "Solid scripting experience required" in my job search (for Linux sys admin). IYHO, what would be the one scripting language to learn? I would learn straight shell (sh) ... it's clunkier than bash shell but it's everywhere. Of course to be useful you'd hav

OT: what scripting language to learn?

2008-04-11 Thread Damon L. Chesser
I keep coming up against a wall "Solid scripting experience required" in my job search (for Linux sys admin). IYHO, what would be the one scripting language to learn? -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troub

lenny net instal problem

2008-04-11 Thread ChadDavis
When the kernel is uncompressing, I get an invalid compressed format (err=1) ---System halted It seems that others have had this problem due to media issues. I've tried to reburn the image and that still doesn't change anything. Does anyone have any other ideas?

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/08 02:20

Problemas en el DVD

2008-04-11 Thread luis saavedra
Estimado: junto con saludarlo en el presente mail. le informo o cumsulto, si el DVD NÂș1 tiene problemas o sinplemente el problema es mio. sale que no coinside el MD5, quisiera saber yo lo descarge mal o no. lo he descargado 4 veses con un acelerador de descarga. Atte Luis Saavedra.

Re: Regarding package Installation

2008-04-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:50:29PM +0500, Zainab Rehman wrote: > While running commands(red coloured font) to install a source package i am > having problems (bolded text) > > > debianabc:/home/fast# cd debian > debianabc:/home/fast/debian# apt-get source bnfc > Reading package lists... Done > B

Re: how to fix my broken system..

2008-04-11 Thread Mumia W..
On 04/11/2008 03:59 AM, Jaisen N.D. wrote: Hai I have a problem here. I use Etch. I have installed a postgresql package from debian backports, with the following command. #apt-get -t etch-backports install postgresql-8.3

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Mumia W..
On 04/11/2008 09:10 AM, Marc Shapiro wrote: Is there any way, instead of restricting a resource, to have a command executed when a setpoint for a given resource is reached? Say, when FF uses 200M of virtual memory, or over 30% of CPU, a job runs which pops up a warning message. That way you k

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:54:20AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/11/08 08:18, David Fox wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Sackville-West > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things,

Re: how th generate like oficial site from packages (or CD's)

2008-04-11 Thread Preston Boyington
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Indeed, reprepro is a lot better, I tried it yesterday, and faster too. I invoke reprepro from a C++ program to generate a local mirror of all the packages that a system contains, generated by dpkg-repack, if anybody is interested. Hugo I am very interested. How can

how to capture email before it goes to postfix and when it comes out...????

2008-04-11 Thread Michael Habashy
how to capture email before it goes to postfix and when it comes out... I am dying to catch what the email looks like before it goes into postfix...and what it looks like before it gets handed to another email server...anyone can help ? i would like to see what my header information is bef

g33 chipset support

2008-04-11 Thread ChadDavis
I'm trying to figure out which version of debian I need to go with to get G33 Chipset support. I've read a couple of online things that suggest I need kernel 2.6.23, but others seem to suggest that older versions work? Does anybody have experience with this chipset and debian?

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Jean-Louis Crouzet
Jean-Louis Crouzet wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 17:06, tom arnall wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 14:14, andy wrote: Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: all

Re: how to fix my broken system..

2008-04-11 Thread Jaisen N.D.
Creating an empty file doesnt fix it:- result: # touch /usr/share/postgresql-common/maintscripts-functions localhost:/home/user# apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The

Re: grep trick

2008-04-11 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Osamu Aoki wrote: > > Also, "GREP_COLORS" should be used instead of "GREP_COLOR". I just now checked the man page of grep 2.5.3~dfsg-5 in unstable. It looks like GREP_COLORS is newly introduced deprecating the use of GREP_COLOR. GREP_COLORS did not exist in grep 2.5.1.ds2-6 (for Etch). Thanks fo

Re: What to do to get loclized version of debian package ?

2008-04-11 Thread Jabka Atu
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:57:33AM +0300, Jabka Atu wrote: > > I see now that the translation are in source files. > > The question is how to make cups to use it ? > > > > On 4/10/08, Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On 20

Re: grep trick

2008-04-11 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 10:58:43PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Rich Healey wrote: > > > Mike Bird wrote: > >> On Mon April 7 2008 16:03:28 Chris Bannister wrote: > >>> export GREP_COLOR=33 > >>> alias grep='grep --colour=always' > >> > >> This will break any scripts which assume that th

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Jean-Louis Crouzet
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 17:06, tom arnall wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 14:14, andy wrote: Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: all of a sudden browsers have

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Paul Johnson wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: [snip] It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote: >>> On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: [snip

Re: Mplayer runs slowly, screen split diagonally

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 08:58, John Talbut wrote: >>On 04/11/08 07:34, John Talbut wrote: >>> When I try to play a DVD using mplayer it runs slowly, something like 4 >>> frames a second. The screen is split diagonally and it seems as if one >>> frame is pasted in

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote: > > On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: > >> [snip] > > It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY also say that milk about > $3

Re: how to fix my broken system..

2008-04-11 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Jaisen N.D. wrote: There is no such file /usr/share/postgresql-common/maintscripts-functions in the package postgresql-common_87~bpo40+1_all.deb . I have checked that. well, don't know what postresql uses that file for, but you could try "touch /usr/share/postgresql-common/maintscripts-funct

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Friday 11 April 2008 16:10:04 Marc Shapiro wrote: > Mumia W.. wrote: > Is there any way, instead of restricting a resource, to have a command > executed when a setpoint for a given resource is reached? Say, when FF > uses 200M of virtual memory, or over 30% of CPU, a job runs which pops > up a

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