Re: system not using hosts file

2008-04-10 Thread Bob Cox
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 05:17:56 +0200, NN_il_Confusionario ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > You probably want > > getent hosts fred > > the man pages for hosts and getent should explain the differences This is something new I learned today - thank you. And.. On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 22:15:37 -04

Re: Question about debian vserver

2008-04-10 Thread Felipe Rocha
Pete hi. Answering some questions... > How would someone from the Internet be able to access the web server via the > internal IP address? Someone from internet will only be able to access you web server if you have a valid IP address, an external IP. Once you have a valid IP, you have to forwa

Question about debian vserver

2008-04-10 Thread Pete Kay
Hi all, I have a question for Debian vserver. Let's say I have web server on one Debian guest system and db on another Debian guest system. How do I have the different applications to listen on the different ports? How would someone from the Internet be able to access the web server via the int

Re: [OT] reStructured Text real world usage

2008-04-10 Thread s. keeling
Brian McKee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 9-Apr-08, at 11:12 PM, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > > > > Inspired by the easy to use wiki syntax, I've been looking around > > for similar markups that allow for basic "rich text" output. > > I actually use a wiki currently - tiddlyWiki - and I edit the t

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread tom arnall
On Thursday 10 April 2008 19:11, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 01:25:53PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Thu, April 10, 2008 12:45 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit > > > system. > > > > I can. FF2.x was just

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread paragasu
same thing happen to me. i am using debian sid. before i do dist-upgrade a week ago. i have the same problem. FF use 97% of the CPU after i open few tabs (my laptop using 256MB + Via C3 1G CPU).. especially when i watch youtube. i have to kill the process manually from the terminal because FF stop

Re: system not using hosts file

2008-04-10 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 05:02:14PM -0400, Brian McKee wrote: > ==> host -v fred > Received 97 bytes from 192.168.0.2#53 in 0 ms You probably want getent hosts fred the man pages for hosts and getent should explain the differences -- Chi usa software non libero avvelena anche te. Digli di smett

Re: Upgrading libc6 from etch to testing.Too Risky?

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:20:09PM -0700, alexandre suzuki wrote: > I want to upgrade my libc6,from etch to testing,the > output of apt-get below: libc is the heart of any unix. Since debian gives you binary packages, they are linked against a specific version of libc6. If you want such things f

Re: system not using hosts file

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 05:02:14PM -0400, Brian McKee wrote: > > I don't understand why 'host fred' doesn't return 127.0.0.1 > > ==> host -v fred > Trying "fred.realsubdomain.realdomainname.com" > Trying "fred.realdomainname.com" > Trying "fred" > Host fred not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > Received 97 by

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 01:25:53PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Thu, April 10, 2008 12:45 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit > > system. > > I can. FF2.x was just painful on my laptop. It only has 256Mb and what > i used to be abl

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:45:32PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > > all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). i've > > I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit > system. Easy on my P-II, which is 32-bit (

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 04:22:06PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > I was seriously surprised with the power my old 95 Kia Sportage had. 4 > banger, but got 147HP on the State of Oregon DEQ dynos at Hillsboro. It once > pulled a Ford Explorer out of a drainage ditch, and with the help of another

Re: [OT] reStructured Text real world usage

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:02:33AM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:57:27 -0400 > "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I use Latex. For simple things, it really is simple. For complex things > > its a bit more complex. > Yes I love LaTex. I use it pretty m

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > My first Linux install was on a 386-33. I still have the steel full-sized AT > case around here somewhere... The hardest thing was figuring out the > monitor's frequencies for Xwindows, since at that time they were not > autodetecte

libsqlclient15off

2008-04-10 Thread Marc Auslander
The slim project recently ran afoul of something in the debian packages. They had been requirement libsqlclient15-dev (or 14-dev) and a user pointed out that they should only depend on the client - so they changed to libsqlclient14 (or 15). But these don't exist - rather only libsqlclient15off ex

Re: system not using hosts file

2008-04-10 Thread Sudev Barar
On 11/04/2008, Bernardo Dal Seno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/04/2008, Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 17:02:14 -0400, Brian McKee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > > > > > I don't understand why 'host fred' doesn't return 127.0.0.1 > > > I think host perfo

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 10 April 2008 11:51:24 am Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote: > > >> On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote: > > >> > > >> [snip] > > >>

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 10 April 2008 06:54:31 am Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinder) Metro-Mite > > > delivery truck. It's so cool.

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 17:06, tom arnall wrote: > On Thursday 10 April 2008 14:14, andy wrote: >> Thierry Chatelet wrote: >>> On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > all of a sudden browsers have becom

Re: system not using hosts file

2008-04-10 Thread Bernardo Dal Seno
On 10/04/2008, Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 17:02:14 -0400, Brian McKee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > I don't understand why 'host fred' doesn't return 127.0.0.1 I think host performs a DNS lookup, so maybe it bypasses the file hosts altogether. ping, as Bob

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 17:07, tom arnall wrote: [snip] > > and what does CPU% look like? I know you asked this of Andy, but really the answer depends on the web site. Dynamic sites that love Flash and thousands of animated GIFs will use more CPU than calmer si

Re: SSH connections stall expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY

2008-04-10 Thread Bernardo Dal Seno
On 09/04/2008, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > every once in a while, I am stuck in a crap wifi network and often > cannot even establish SSH connections. What happens is that the > socket connection is established, but the client then just waits for > a server reply during the DH

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread andy
tom arnall wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 14:14, andy wrote: Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). i've I do

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Thursday 10 April 2008 23:37:03 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 16:14, andy wrote: > > Thierry Chatelet wrote: > >> On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). > >>>

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread tom arnall
On Thursday 10 April 2008 14:14, andy wrote: > Thierry Chatelet wrote: > > On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > >>> all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). > >>> i've > >> > >> I don't see how a single proces

Re: [OT] reStructured Text real world usage

2008-04-10 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > Yes I love LaTex. I use it pretty much for all the reports/papers I have > to type up. But for this case I sometimes feel it is overkill. > > I usually have to type up the notes pretty quick in class and sometimes > with LaTex, typing up \item and \textit{}...takes som

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread tom arnall
On Thursday 10 April 2008 14:14, andy wrote: > Thierry Chatelet wrote: > > On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > >>> all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). > >>> i've > >> > >> I don't see how a single proces

Upgrading libc6 from etch to testing.Too Risky?

2008-04-10 Thread alexandre suzuki
I want to upgrade my libc6,from etch to testing,the output of apt-get below: Reading package lists... Building dependency tree... The following extra packages will be installed: binutils libc6-dev libc6-ppc64 libncurses5 libncurses5-dev libselinux1 libslang2 linux-libc-dev locales tzdata util-

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 16:14, andy wrote: > Thierry Chatelet wrote: >> On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: >> >>> On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: >>> all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). i'

Re: system not using hosts file

2008-04-10 Thread Bob Cox
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 17:02:14 -0400, Brian McKee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I don't understand why 'host fred' doesn't return 127.0.0.1 > > ==> host -v fred > Trying "fred.realsubdomain.realdomainname.com" > Trying "fred.realdomainname.com" > Trying "fred" > Host fred not found: 3(NXDOMAIN

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-04-10 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:21:04PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 09:42:26PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > I see it under unstable also: > > > > > > > > Package: xmms (1:1.2.10+20070601-1 and others) [debports] > > > > > > > > What's 'debports'? > > > > > > That'

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread andy
Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). i've I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit system. tried

system not using hosts file

2008-04-10 Thread Brian McKee
I don't understand why 'host fred' doesn't return 127.0.0.1 ==> host -v fred Trying "fred.realsubdomain.realdomainname.com" Trying "fred.realdomainname.com" Trying "fred" Host fred not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) Received 97 bytes from 192.168.0.2#53 in 0 ms ==> cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 l

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread tom arnall
On Thursday 10 April 2008 13:25, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Thu, April 10, 2008 12:45 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit > > system. > > I can. FF2.x was just painful on my laptop. It only has 256Mb and > what i used to be able to do ju

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > > all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). > > i've > > I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit > system. > > > tried iceweasel, opera, galeon. al

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, April 10, 2008 12:45 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit > system. I can. FF2.x was just painful on my laptop. It only has 256Mb and what i used to be able to do just a few years ago (Firefox, Thunderbird and gaim ne pidgin al

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-04-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 09:42:26PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > I see it under unstable also: > > > > > > Package: xmms (1:1.2.10+20070601-1 and others) [debports] > > > > > > What's 'debports'? > > > > That's what I was going to ask *you*! Here is my apt-cache policy: > > > > ,[ apt-

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread tom arnall
On Thursday 10 April 2008 12:45, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > > all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). > > i've > > I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit > system. > > > tried iceweasel, opera, galeon. all

Default fonts

2008-04-10 Thread Torquil Macdonald Sørensen
Hello, in the KDE font settings I can see the font names "Serif" and "Sans Serif". Are these really links to other fonts? And if so, how can find out which ones and how is it possible to change them? Best regards, Torquil Sørensen

VLC-Player no picture in VLC-Frame via Beamer

2008-04-10 Thread Bernd Kloss
Etch VLC-Player Dell Latitude D 520 Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller Hello, I am downloading videos from youtube via youtubecatcher and save them as *.flv. When playing them with VLC , I get the complete picture on my notebook-LFP. The beamer-p

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). i've I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit system. > tried iceweasel, opera, galeon. all with the same result

browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread tom arnall
all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). i've tried iceweasel, opera, galeon. all with the same result. i'm running debian etch. thanks, tom arnall arcata -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROT

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote: > >> > >> [snip] > >> > >>> What a deal! I bet ALL of the "concerned parents" will be sending B

Re: IMPORTANT BUSINESS TRANSACTION FOR YOU PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!!!

2008-04-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, April 9, 2008 2:23 pm, Chris Bannister wrote: > Yeah, but it makes it more difficult for new Debian users to get > answers to their problems if you *also* have reply to list as Policy. In > fact, the more I think about it, the more illogical it seems. Which is moot since D-U does not n

Re: Why Installing php and pecl so difficult in Debian?

2008-04-10 Thread Rico Secada
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:10:33 +1000 hce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I thought PHP is very common now days, but I found so difficult to > install it in debian. The apt-get install can't find any php, pecl, > php-xml packages. > > So, I have to downloaded php5_5.2.0-8+etch10_all.deb, > php

Re: bits/news from the users of Debian?

2008-04-10 Thread Goupil
Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Saturday 05 April 2008 12:07:12 pm Goupil wrote: > >> I don't use popularity-contest package, i don't like the idea that my PC >> is sending personal info. Sorry. > > I question whether or not you've looked at popularity-contest, since > there's > no personal info i

Re: Difference between bind and bind9

2008-04-10 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
Sven Joachim wrote the following on 04/10/2008 09:55 AM: Hello Dennis, On 2008-04-10 16:37 +0200, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: I was just doing some reading about DNS and came across a reference to bind9. I find that there are packages for both a bind and a bind9 in the dist. What is the difference

Re: how th generate like oficial site from packages (or CD's)

2008-04-10 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
> abelahcene wrote: >> How the create like an "official site" from my packages ? Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > You mean this? > http://people.connexer.com/~roberto/howtos/debrepository#setup You should probably note that there is a big warning basically saying "these directions are obsolete, look at [

Re: Xen in Etch, basic setup

2008-04-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, April 8, 2008 3:19 pm, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > well, that's just plain frustrating. It's got me worried because my > xen setup is working great in etch... might have to leave it there for > a while. Well, the main problem is that testing installs 2.6.24-xen and does not have any

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:14:00 +1200 Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Chris, > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:51:07PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > The Prisoner - Patrick McGoohan. > Congratulations. > 10pts Cheers, Chris. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obviou

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:41:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 11:28, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > > .. > > > >> Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the log > >> doesn't pick up all of the

Re: Fwd: trans

2008-04-10 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thu April 10 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > oh please, don't leave New Jersey out of this! > > don't they just scoop it from puddles and dump it straight in the > carburator? no, I think the homes have water filters that separate gas from water.. one line goes to the water lines in the

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 11:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> [snip] >>> I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinder) Metro-Mite >>> delive

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 11:28, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > .. > >> Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the log >> doesn't pick up all of them. Some times I really mis

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > [snip] > > > > I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinder) Metro-Mite > > delivery truck. It's so cool. Geared so low in first, you could pull > > stumps with it... > > Gee,

Re: Problems installing debian on Dell 530 with unrecognized NIC

2008-04-10 Thread Dan Turk
Thanks to those of you who sent ideas on solving this problem. I only tried one idea - get the daily unstable / testing build. I downloaded the amd64-netinst build from yesterday, Apr 9, and it recognized the NIC with no problem. I still have some things to get configured, but it could ta

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: .. > Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the log > doesn't pick up all of them. Some times I really miss being able to read them > as they went by, especially when I see something "Gee, that doesn't look

Re: Fwd: trans

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 07:39:48AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Thu April 10 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Well I tried... you bunch of hair splitting ninnies!! > > leave my hair out of this! > > > > > I'm bald, you insensitive clod! > > > > > there, now we can flame away  ;-) > > > > Nah.

Re: Fwd: trans

2008-04-10 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thu April 10 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > Does that make me a "trained professional", or does Oregon presume > me too stupid? Oregon AND New Jersey.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Problems installing debian on Dell 530 with unrecognized NIC

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 06:56:10AM -0400, mike wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:01:37AM -0700, Dan Turk wrote: >> >>> I need to get advice / help on how to best go about installing >>> debian on a Dell 530 Intel Core 2 Quad-core machine for which the >>> debian

Re: Fwd: trans

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 11:02, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 07:56:16PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> Actually you ARE allowed to pump diesel in Oregon; just not normal >>> petrol--go figure. >> So if you drive a Mercedes 300D, you can pump your

Re: trans

2008-04-10 Thread Brian McKee
On 10-Apr-08, at 12:02 PM, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 07:56:16PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Actually you ARE allowed to pump diesel in Oregon; just not normal petrol--go figure. So if you drive a Mercedes 300D, you can pump your own fuel, but if you drive a MB 300 you can't.

Re: Why Installing php and pecl so difficult in Debian?

2008-04-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:10:33PM +1000, hce wrote: > I thought PHP is very common now days, but I found so difficult to > install it in debian. The apt-get install can't find any php, pecl, > php-xml packages. > > So, I have to downloaded php5_5.2.0-8+etch10_all.deb, > php5-common_5.2.0-8+etch10

Re: [OT] reStructured Text real world usage

2008-04-10 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:57:27 -0400 "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:12:03PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > > > == January 22, 2008 == > > > > * Writing Testbenches Using SystemVerilog, Janick Bergeron > > > > === Interesting Reading === > > > >

Re: Fwd: trans

2008-04-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 07:56:16PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Actually you ARE allowed to pump diesel in Oregon; just not normal > > petrol--go figure. > > So if you drive a Mercedes 300D, you can pump your own fuel, but if > you drive a MB 300 you can't. > > The filling station lobbyists in O

Re: server security :: user accounts, ssh, passphrases, etc.

2008-04-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:49:29AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 10:46:25AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: > > My (admittedly limited) understanding of public key crypto is that the > > public and private key are connected by the relationship of two extremly > > large prime

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 10:09, Kent West wrote: > Curt Howland wrote: >> Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the >> log doesn't pick up all of them. Some times I really miss being able >> to read them as they went by, especially when I

Re: What to do to get loclized version of debian package ?

2008-04-10 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-04-10 23:05 +0200, Jabka Atu wrote: > Hello,.. > > Cups in debian don't have the localized versions (Hebrew ,Spanish , > Italian etc..) - that allready in cups sources. Did you look at the newest version of Cups in Debian or just at the package in the stable Debian release? Looking at ht

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Kent West
Curt Howland wrote: Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the log doesn't pick up all of them. Some times I really miss being able to read them as they went by, especially when I see something "Gee, that doesn't look right..." and poof it's gone. This is why I don't

Re: Difference between bind and bind9

2008-04-10 Thread Sven Joachim
Hello Dennis, On 2008-04-10 16:37 +0200, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > I was just doing some reading about DNS and came across a reference to > bind9. I find that there are packages for both a bind and a bind9 in > the dist. What is the difference between them? The bind package includes version 8 of

Re: What to do to get loclized version of debian package ?

2008-04-10 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Thursday 10 April 2008 23:05:04 Jabka Atu wrote: > Hello,.. > > Cups in debian don't have the localized versions (Hebrew ,Spanish , > Italian etc..) - that allready in cups sources. > > The loclization is in two things : > The Cli - Uses po files. > The Web-Gui - Uses html file and images. > > W

Difference between bind and bind9

2008-04-10 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
Greetings; I was just doing some reading about DNS and came across a reference to bind9. I find that there are packages for both a bind and a bind9 in the dist. What is the difference between them? Any particular preferences? TIA! Dennis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My first Linux install was on a 386-33. I still have the steel full-sized AT case around here somewhere... The hardest thing was figuring out the monitor's frequencies for Xwindows, since at that time they were not autodetected what so ever. In on

Re: [OT] reStructured Text real world usage

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:12:03PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > == January 22, 2008 == > > * Writing Testbenches Using SystemVerilog, Janick Bergeron > > === Interesting Reading === > > * Thomas L. Friedman "The World Is Flat: A Brief History of the > Twenty-first Century," > > === C

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > [snip] > > > > I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinder) Metro-Mite > > delivery truck. It's so cool. Geared so low in first, you could pull > > stumps with it... > > Gee,

What to do to get loclized version of debian package ?

2008-04-10 Thread Jabka Atu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello,.. Cups in debian don't have the localized versions (Hebrew ,Spanish , Italian etc..) - that allready in cups sources. The loclization is in two things : The Cli - Uses po files. The Web-Gui - Uses html file and images. What should i do to hel

Re: Installing Madwifi (atheros drivers) into Debian Etch.

2008-04-10 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 17:44:49 James Allsopp wrote: > Hi, > Just been following the instructions to install the madwifi driver, but > it doesn't compile on the final step. Does anyone have any suggestions? > I'm very new to debian, but experienced with Linux. If anyone needs more > information

Re: OLPC

2008-04-10 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 10:02:43AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 02:33:09PM -0400, Peter Meldrum wrote: > > I have heard that some people have installed Debian on the One Laptop > > Per Child machine > > > > Do you have any info or links to this? I have one of these fr

Re: how th generate like oficial site from packages (or CD's)

2008-04-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
abelahcene wrote: Hi, sorry to disturb you, may this is a trivial question but I haven't receive a validate answer!!! I want to create a local repository: I explain : I have downloaded Packages I need to the common student ( I am teacher in university), say the official CD1 and other pac

Re: Why Installing php and pecl so difficult in Debian?

2008-04-10 Thread Bob Cox
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 22:10:33 +1000, hce ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > I thought PHP is very common now days, but I found so difficult to > install it in debian. The apt-get install can't find any php, pecl, > php-xml packages. > > So, I have to downloaded php5_5.2.0-8+etch10_all.deb,

Re: Installing Madwifi (atheros drivers) into Debian Etch.

2008-04-10 Thread tyler
Till Wimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > James Allsopp wrote: >> Just been following the instructions to install the madwifi driver, >> but it doesn't compile on the final step. Does anyone have any >> suggestions? I'm very new to debian, but experienced with Linux. If >> anyone needs more inform

Re: Why Installing php and pecl so difficult in Debian?

2008-04-10 Thread John Fleming
> The apt-get install can't find any phpDid youapt-cache search php ?? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] reStructured Text real world usage

2008-04-10 Thread Brian McKee
On 9-Apr-08, at 11:12 PM, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: Hey Everyone, Inspired by the easy to use wiki syntax, I've been looking around for similar markups that allow for basic "rich text" output. I actually use a wiki currently - tiddlyWiki - and I edit the text in it with Vim using the I

how th generate like oficial site from packages (or CD's)

2008-04-10 Thread abelahcene
Hi, sorry to disturb you, may this is a trivial question but I haven't receive a validate answer!!! I want to create a local repository: I explain : I have downloaded Packages I need to the common student ( I am teacher in university), say the official CD1 and other packages from the site

Re: [OT] MiniPCI GPS and GSM card for router

2008-04-10 Thread Bill Gatliff
Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Now for my other Mobilhomes/offices/workshops I want to use a cheaper > model and like to know, whether someone know MiniPCI GSM cards which > support only GPRS 56kBit and are respectively much more expensive since > I have the need for at least 12 cards. (Use

Why Installing php and pecl so difficult in Debian?

2008-04-10 Thread hce
Hi, I thought PHP is very common now days, but I found so difficult to install it in debian. The apt-get install can't find any php, pecl, php-xml packages. So, I have to downloaded php5_5.2.0-8+etch10_all.deb, php5-common_5.2.0-8+etch10_i386.deb and php5-cgi_5.2.0-8+etch10_i386.deb manually and

Re: conflicting packages

2008-04-10 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-04-10 13:27 +0200, Jude DaShiell wrote: > It appears emacs 21 and dictionaries-common have a fight going on and > dpkg is caught in the middle. Could you please elaborate what the problem is? I.e., post the error messages here. > This is the second time I ran into > their squabble. Wh

Re: [OT] MiniPCI GPS and GSM card for router

2008-04-10 Thread Bill Gatliff
Michelle Konzack wrote: > Note: Currently I do not know, whether I schould use a "Soekris > net4526", "Soekris net4826" or a "VIA EPIA LN5000EA" since > currently I have not found any routers using an ARM CPU and > offering enough MiniPCI Slots. What about some USB

conflicting packages

2008-04-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
It appears emacs 21 and dictionaries-common have a fight going on and dpkg is caught in the middle. This is the second time I ran into their squabble. Does anyone know what the back story is and if there's likely to be a treaty signed in the near future? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Fwd: trans

2008-04-10 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thu April 10 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Well I tried... you bunch of hair splitting ninnies!! leave my hair out of this! > > I'm bald, you insensitive clod! > > > there, now we can flame away  ;-) > > Nah.  It's more fun to laugh at gas pump-challenged Oregonians and > the people who defend

Re: Problems installing debian on Dell 530 with unrecognized NIC

2008-04-10 Thread mike
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:01:37AM -0700, Dan Turk wrote: I need to get advice / help on how to best go about installing debian on a Dell 530 Intel Core 2 Quad-core machine for which the debian installer does not recognize the Intel 82562V-2 Network Interface Ca

segnalazione bug?

2008-04-10 Thread lins
durante l'aggiornamentodel sistema viene fuori il seguente messaggio Si è verificato un problema irrisolvibile durante l'inizializzazione delle informazioni del pacchetto. Segnalare questo evento come bug del pacchetto «update-manager» e includere il seguente messaggio di errore: 'E:Problem pars

Re: SSH connections stall expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY

2008-04-10 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 03:34:13PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > every once in a while, I am stuck in a crap wifi network and often > cannot even establish SSH connections. > I tried varying the MTU but that didn't seem to have any effect. perhaps you coud try tuning parameters in /proc/sys/net/

Re: grep trick

2008-04-10 Thread Joost Witteveen
On 09/04/2008, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 10:22:08AM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Mike Bird wrote: > > > On Mon April 7 2008 16:03:28 Chris Bannister wrote: > > >> export GREP_COLOR=33 > > >>

[OT] MiniPCI GPS and GSM card for router

2008-04-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, since my appartement was transformed in a swimmingpool for 1 1/2 weeks I have to rebuild my routers... (lost 5 for my Mobilehomes/offices) I was using a "Sierre Wireless AirCard 860" which is quiet expensive and require a PCMCIA slot in my router. OK, for my Mobile-Data-Center I have f

Re: [OT] Need old Packages.gz and Release Files

2008-04-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Lennart, Am 2008-04-04 12:44:38, schrieb Lennart Sorensen: > Certainly archive.debian.org would have the last version of each release > (so 2.2r5, 3.0r6, etc). Thank you for this hint... > The CDs would have had seperate (and different) Packages.gz since there > would be one on each CD cov

Re: Firestarter dumping blocked events to console

2008-04-10 Thread Mumia W..
On 04/09/2008 10:24 PM, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: Hi there, I installed firestarter on Debian Etch. From my understanding it is pretty much a front end to the ipstarter firewall. Everything has been going great except for one minor annoyance... Every time I connect to the campus network I ge

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] > > I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinder) Metro-Mite > delivery truck. It's so cool. Geared so low in first, you could pull > stumps with it... Gee, ya think uber-torque is why t

Re: Fwd: trans

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/08 23:21, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 12:27:30PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: >> Ron Johnson writes: >>> That's an invalid invocation of Godwin's Law. >> Bsides, Godwin never promised that a thread would _end_ when Hitl

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