Re: OLPC

2008-04-05 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:33:09 -0400 Peter Meldrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have heard that some people have installed Debian on the One Laptop > Per Child machine > > Do you have any info or links to this? I have one of these from the > GIGO program. It's full of kiddie toys which I would

Re: pc compatibility

2008-04-05 Thread remigio
On 5 Apr, 21:20, Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:29:26 -0700 (PDT) > > remigio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > I'd like to buy an Acer Aspire m1610 for a very convenient low price, > > but before this I want to know the Debian Etch compatibility on this > >

Re: pc compatibility

2008-04-05 Thread remigio
On 5 Apr, 02:50, "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 01:29:26PM -0700, remigio wrote: > > I'd like to buy an Acer Aspire m1610 for a very convenient low price, > > but before this I want to know the Debian Etch compatibility on this > > pc. Have someone had an e

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Nate Duehr wrote: > On Apr 5, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Charlie wrote: > > I suppose by that standard you imagine that children have no worth > > at all? I > > can't really agree. As one who was a child once, I think children > > are an > > extremely valuable asset to a species i

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 5, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Saturday 05 April 2008 02:24:17 pm Hal Vaughan wrote: I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would be to wonder if you've ever talked to any parents. Of course I know parents

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 5, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Charlie wrote: I suppose by that standard you imagine that children have no worth at all? I can't really agree. As one who was a child once, I think children are an extremely valuable asset to a species in the now as well as the future. I never said anything o

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question.Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Telaman Consultancies
> > > > Original Message >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. >A question.Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]] >Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 15:57:27 -0500 > >>Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Saturday 05 Apr

Re: [Not So Horrendously OT] Psychology, Economics and Debian Was[Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Telaman Consultancies
> > > > Original Message >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: Re: [Not So Horrendously OT] Psychology, Economics and >Debian Was[Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its >users]] >Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:09:33 -0400 > >>Maslow is more on the t

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Saturday 05 April 2008 02:24:17 pm Hal Vaughan wrote: > > I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would > > be to wonder if you've ever talked to any parents. > > Of course I know parents, and the ones who don't have anything >

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, Nate Duehr shared this with us all: >--} By your standard, less than 2% of the entire world's population should >--} > ever consider parenthood, and those would be the richest 2% on the >--} > planet. >--} > >--} > Unless you're at least a multi-millionaire (considering numbers

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 05 April 2008 02:24:17 pm Hal Vaughan wrote: > I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would be to > wonder if you've ever talked to any parents. Of course I know parents, and the ones who don't have anything resembling that kind of money lined up pretty much have

Re: How do I get aptitude to unhold???

2008-04-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 05 April 2008 05:43:05 pm Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > Yeah, it should be simple, but it isn't doing it! > > I have a whole bunch of packages held from back when I > had a buggy apt-get and aptitude and now I want to > upgrade and I can't get them unheld. Where is that list > at? Is there a

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 05 April 2008 02:46:41 pm Mark Allums wrote: > In that case, be prepared to receive lots more broken threads. And not > just from me. From every newcomer who's ever been on a list before. > Really, every other mailing list I participate in now, or in the past, > does it that way. Th

Install Memcache in debian

2008-04-05 Thread hce
Hi, While I am building and installing Memcache in debian, the README says "If using Linux, you need a kernel with epoll.". Is the debian 4.0 uses kernel with epoll? Thank you. Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTE

lightning extension for icedove doesn't work

2008-04-05 Thread Michael Yang
I installed the latest lightning extension for icedove. The xpi is installed but after restarted the icedove, the calendar pane is in a mess, no grid shown up, totally can't work with it. anyone has idea about this? lightning 0.8, icedove 2.0.0.9 (20080110) lenny/sid, 2.6.24 Thanks. M.

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/08 19:51, Nate Duehr wrote: > > On Apr 5, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> I have seen direct evidence of the problem inherent in reply-to >> munging. We had a student reply to an email thinking she was replying >> only to

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/08 19:46, Nate Duehr wrote: [snip] > > Not going to dive into the fray about overpopulation and people having > children who can't afford to raise them... but I will comment that > having finished my 2007 taxes here recently, and as a (by cho

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 5, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I have seen direct evidence of the problem inherent in reply-to munging. We had a student reply to an email thinking she was replying only to the instructor and instead sent her tearful sounding pleas to the entire class list. Not cool. M

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 5, 2008, at 3:24 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote: Seems kind of stupid to put yourself in that kind of ethical dilemma in the first place. It's not like there aren't six billion other people on this already overpopulated rock, plopping out another before you can afford to raise it through age 18

How do I get aptitude to unhold???

2008-04-05 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
Yeah, it should be simple, but it isn't doing it! I have a whole bunch of packages held from back when I had a buggy apt-get and aptitude and now I want to upgrade and I can't get them unheld. Where is that list at? Is there any way I can just go delete the list/file? This is what I do:

Re: Need to reboot Debian frequently

2008-04-05 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 15:18:50 -0500 Mark Allums <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeff D wrote: > > While not having used asterisk myself, I would suggest not running firefox > > on a machine that is some what critical of uptime. Firefox itself will > > eat up huge amounts of memory. I would also sugg

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/08 15:57, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] > > > It's not my mailer, it's me (I use Thunderbird/Mozilla/Icedove), and I > have to apologize for it. My habit is to hit the reply button, but that > doesn't work on this list. I used the reply button

Re: reply to list was Re:[Somewhat More OT] Closed source software

2008-04-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Mark Allums wrote: > > It's not my mailer, it's me (I use Thunderbird/Mozilla/Icedove), > > and I have to apologize for it. > > Please be considerate to others and use an email client that is aware > of reply-to-list feature. From > http://w

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/08 16:24, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: [snip] > > I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would be to > wonder if you've ever talked to any parents. No, but he talks to lots of... w

Re: another X server restarts

2008-04-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat April 5 2008, Florian Kulzer wrote: > You can try to pin "stable" to a priority greater than 1000 (see "man > apt_preferences") and do a dist-upgrade. This will work to some extent, > but there will almost certainly be a number of issues that you have to > fix manually. ("Downgrading is not

Re: Disk Drive Order Changes - Again

2008-04-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:28:16AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 03:06:09PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 02:14:17PM -0500, Butch Kemper wrote: > [snip]> > > > > > > # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 becomes > > > # kopt=root=LAB

Re: Disk Drive Order Changes - Again

2008-04-05 Thread Alex Samad
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 03:06:09PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 02:14:17PM -0500, Butch Kemper wrote: [snip]> > > > > # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 becomes > > # kopt=root=LABEL=/ > > I think Alex is right, that you should rebuild the initrd. But

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 05:11:36PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> >> this issue has been flogged to death on this list many times. Read the >> archives. Sorry if I offended you. I will drop the subject. > > I am not offended. Thank you for the link. I will go there a

Re: reply to list was Re:[Somewhat More OT] Closed source software

2008-04-05 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Mark Allums wrote: > > It's not my mailer, it's me (I use Thunderbird/Mozilla/Icedove), and I > have to apologize for it. Please be considerate to others and use an email client that is aware of reply-to-list feature. From http://wiki.debian.org/ReplyToListEmailClients there are many email clie

Re: Dell xps 1330 laptop, problems with multimediakeys.

2008-04-05 Thread Magnus Pedersen
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 11:04:28PM +0200, Magnus Pedersen wrote: Hello :-) I have debian testing on my new dell laptop, it has a number of specialkeys, play/pause, stop, forward and so on... I have made them useful with lineakd and it works, sort of... When i pr

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Mark Allums
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: this issue has been flogged to death on this list many times. Read the archives. Sorry if I offended you. I will drop the subject. I am not offended. Thank you for the link. I will go there and read it soon. If the issue has come up before, then there probably

Re: dpkg emacs install failure

2008-04-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 11:29:52PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Script started on Sat 05 Apr 2008 12:22:24 AM EDT ... > install/dictionaries-common: Byte-compiling for emacsen flavour emacs22 > E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily > unavailable) > E: Unable to

Re: Disk Drive Order Changes - Again

2008-04-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 02:14:17PM -0500, Butch Kemper wrote: > Back in February, I asked a question about problems I was having with > the hard disks sequence flip-flopping when I would boot: disk #1 would be > hda and disk #2 would be hdc; or disk #1 would be hde and disk #2 would > be hda. >

Re: Dell xps 1330 laptop, problems with multimediakeys.

2008-04-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 11:04:28PM +0200, Magnus Pedersen wrote: > Hello :-) > > I have debian testing on my new dell laptop, it has a number of > specialkeys, play/pause, stop, forward and so on... I have made them > useful with lineakd and it works, sort of... When i press one of the > keys

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 04:46:41PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >>> On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 03:57:27PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: I would really like it if this list were like all others I am on/have ever been on, and used the reply-to field. I wish

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Mark Allums
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 03:57:27PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: I would really like it if this list were like all others I am on/have ever been on, and used the reply-to field. I wish that they would set it up to be like this: From: the poster of the message S

Re: apt-get errors

2008-04-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 09:44:10PM +1000, hce wrote: > On 4/5/08, Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 04/04/2008 06:48 PM, hce wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I guess somehow my apt list is collapsed. Please see following > > > sources.list and errors. I am not able to do apt-get install a

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 03:57:27PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > I would really like it if this list were like all others > I am on/have ever been on, and used the reply-to field. > > I wish that they would set it up to be like this: > > From: the poster of the message > Sender: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 04 April 2008 10:35:26 am Hal Vaughan wrote: > > I would agree with you. I know there are people who will starve > > rather than violate their beliefs, but I also wonder what he would > > do if he had a kid to feed and his choice was to pr

Dell xps 1330 laptop, problems with multimediakeys.

2008-04-05 Thread Magnus Pedersen
Hello :-) I have debian testing on my new dell laptop, it has a number of specialkeys, play/pause, stop, forward and so on... I have made them useful with lineakd and it works, sort of... When i press one of the keys they are very sensitive and the result is that if I press play 5-7 instances

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Mark Allums
Paul Johnson wrote: On Saturday 05 April 2008 01:18:23 pm Mark Allums wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: Yes, it is an attack on the language, since the other discussion (in terms of software) is a matter of degree and freedom is slavery is dealing with exact opposites. (Where have I heard that phrase

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 04 April 2008 10:35:26 am Hal Vaughan wrote: > I would agree with you. I know there are people who will starve rather > than violate their beliefs, but I also wonder what he would do if he > had a kid to feed and his choice was to program for a company that > produces closed source soft

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 05 April 2008 01:18:23 pm Mark Allums wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > Yes, it is an attack on the language, since the other discussion (in > > terms of software) is a matter of degree and freedom is slavery is > > dealing with exact opposites. (Where have I heard that phrase about > >

Re: bits/news from the users of Debian?

2008-04-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 05 April 2008 12:07:12 pm Goupil wrote: > I don't use popularity-contest package, i don't like the idea that my PC > is sending personal info. Sorry. I question whether or not you've looked at popularity-contest, since there's no personal info involved. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROT

Re: Disk Drive Order Changes - Again

2008-04-05 Thread Steve Kemp
On Sun Apr 06, 2008 at 05:23:45 +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > did you do an update-initramfs to build a new initrd ? If you *must* reply to a post with only a single line of new text please have the decency to trim the message, rather than quoting it in its entirety. Steve -- http://www.steve.

Re: [Not So Horrendously OT] Psychology, Economics and Debian Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Mark Allums
Adam Hardy wrote: Now, how can you "buy" something that is "free" like Debian? Well, it has real costs associated with it - The real cost of using Debian is the "opportunity cost". The cost of using it instead of some alternative. The tradeoff. We all choose Debian for different reasons, b

Re: Need to reboot Debian frequently

2008-04-05 Thread Mark Allums
Jeff D wrote: While not having used asterisk myself, I would suggest not running firefox on a machine that is some what critical of uptime. Firefox itself will eat up huge amounts of memory. I would also suggest not running X on it at all if at all possible. Trimming out just X will cut all of

Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Mark Allums
Hal Vaughan wrote: Yes, it is an attack on the language, since the other discussion (in terms of software) is a matter of degree and freedom is slavery is dealing with exact opposites. (Where have I heard that phrase about freedom and slavery before?...) Freedom is Slavery : Slogan in 1984 b

Re: [Horrendously OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Mark Allums
s. keeling wrote: Mark Allums <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hal Vaughan wrote: stay alive. Some, those generally at the lower levels of Piaget's Hierarchy of Needs, will say survival is important while those focused on the higher levels (focused on self actualization) where, since it's Maslow Th

Re: Disk Drive Order Changes - Again

2008-04-05 Thread Alex Samad
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 02:14:17PM -0500, Butch Kemper wrote: > Back in February, I asked a question about problems I was having with > the hard disks sequence flip-flopping when I would boot: disk #1 would be > hda and disk #2 would be hdc; or disk #1 would be hde and disk #2 would > be hda. >

Disk Drive Order Changes - Again

2008-04-05 Thread Butch Kemper
Back in February, I asked a question about problems I was having with the hard disks sequence flip-flopping when I would boot: disk #1 would be hda and disk #2 would be hdc; or disk #1 would be hde and disk #2 would be hda. I receive answers about using labels with the partitions so, I labele

Re: pc compatibility

2008-04-05 Thread Rico Secada
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:29:26 -0700 (PDT) remigio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > I'd like to buy an Acer Aspire m1610 for a very convenient low price, > but before this I want to know the Debian Etch compatibility on this > pc. Have someone had an experience in this way? > Thanks very much.

Re: 32 or 64 bit on DELL INSPIRON celeron

2008-04-05 Thread Michael Geiger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | Damon L. Chesser wrote: | | Wrong list, should have been sent to the dell linux user list. Sorry. |> Boris Epstein wrote: |>> 64-bit Java for Linux is not quit ethere yet, so if you intend to use |>> the machien as a workstation - which most likely

OLPC

2008-04-05 Thread Peter Meldrum
I have heard that some people have installed Debian on the One Laptop Per Child machine Do you have any info or links to this? I have one of these from the GIGO program. It's full of kiddie toys which I would like to replace with something more useful to me. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: bits/news from the users of Debian?

2008-04-05 Thread Goupil
My post is d-d-a. I'd like my comments attributed to. Thanks. Hi, i'am french (from Cherbourg), Sorry for my very bad english. My name : Serge Le Tyrant. My mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] My site : "Le bottin des jeux Linux" speaks about 800 Linux games and i hope that's growing. (http://www.surlestr

Re: Did the syntax for a samba /etc/fstab entry change?

2008-04-05 Thread Michael Marsh
On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Tom Epperly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes My Pictures is shared. I tried a couple of other things. > > # mount -t cifs //brightlywoven /mnt/PictureArchive > Mounting the DFS root for a particular server not implemented yet > > No ip address specified and host

Re: Did the syntax for a samba /etc/fstab entry change?

2008-04-05 Thread Bob Cox
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 10:04:40 -0700, Tom Epperly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [snip] > Yes My Pictures is shared. I tried a couple of other things. > > # mount -t cifs //brightlywoven /mnt/PictureArchive > Mounting the DFS root for a particular server not implemented yet > No ip address speci

Re: Need to reboot Debian frequently

2008-04-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 12:00:44PM +0800, Pete Kay wrote: > Hi, > > Here is my w,free, top results when my linux server's network become too > slow again ( it just happened). > > w output: > 19:41:19 up 1 day, 20:07, 6 users, load average: 1.46, 1.85, 1.86 > USER TTY FROM

Re: Did the syntax for a samba /etc/fstab entry change?

2008-04-05 Thread Tom Epperly
Michael Marsh wrote: [CC'ing to d-u for any samba experts out there] On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Tom Epperly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: mm> smbfs has been deprecated in favor of cifs. Depending on your mm> provider, you may be able to replace "smbfs" with "cifs" and have mm> everything wor

Re: Re: How to create a local mirror from CD

2008-04-05 Thread abelahcene
Thanks for reply, Sorry, my request is probably not clear enough !! I want to create a local mirror from CD's similare to the official site ( not containing all packages!!!). In fact in my university I have several users which want to install debian. So I want to install the system thru the PX

Re: Did the syntax for a samba /etc/fstab entry change?

2008-04-05 Thread Michael Marsh
[CC'ing to d-u for any samba experts out there] On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Tom Epperly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: mm> smbfs has been deprecated in favor of cifs. Depending on your mm> provider, you may be able to replace "smbfs" with "cifs" and have mm> everything work. If, like me, you hav

Re: gnome-phone-manager

2008-04-05 Thread e s
Rolland Tambou wrote: Hi Guys i use currently Debian GNU\Linux version: etch an get a Problem i want to install the package gnome-phone-manager but the command apt-cache search gnome-phone-manager dont give a result and i think i habe to put some line in my file /etc/apt/source.list. here ar

Re: virtual text consoles gone

2008-04-05 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 06:10:25PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 04 Apr 2008, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 10:26:02AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On my AMD64 etch system, cntl-alt-F1 has stopped giving me a text > > > console a month or two ago. Now I haven't been

Re: 32 or 64 bit on DELL INSPIRON celeron

2008-04-05 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Damon L. Chesser wrote: Wrong list, should have been sent to the dell linux user list. Sorry. Boris Epstein wrote: 64-bit Java for Linux is not quit ethere yet, so if you intend to use the machien as a workstation - which most likely you do - running 32-bit Linux probably makes more sense at

Re: 32 or 64 bit on DELL INSPIRON celeron

2008-04-05 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Boris Epstein wrote: 64-bit Java for Linux is not quit ethere yet, so if you intend to use the machien as a workstation - which most likely you do - running 32-bit Linux probably makes more sense at the moment. SNIP Boris, I do not know about 64-bit Java for Linux being not quite there. I

gnome-phone-manager

2008-04-05 Thread Rolland Tambou
Hi Guys i use currently Debian GNU\Linux version: etch an get a Problem i want to install the package gnome-phone-manager but the command apt-cache search gnome-phone-manager dont give a result and i think i habe to put some line in my file /etc/apt/source.list. here are my questions First, h

Re: Debian? Not true GNU/Linux?? Say it isn't so!

2008-04-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 09:39:00PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > as RMS would in saying closed source is unethical. I also have to > > wonder if he would have the same stance if, when he started that > > crusade, he weren't at a university, but h

Re: business card install - kernel

2008-04-05 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 04:31:28AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If I'm using the business card CD install, I get to a page that says, > "Install the base system" and lists about 30 different kernels. I > can't find any web page or documentation that explains the difference > between each one.

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Michael C
Chris Walters wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Michael C wrote: | Chris Walters wrote: | Michael C wrote: | | Hal Vaughan wrote: | |> On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote: | |> | |>> Hal Vaughan wrote: | |>> | |>>> On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote: | |>>> | |>>>

Re: [Not So Horrendously OT] Psychology, Economics and Debian Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Adam Hardy
Adam Hardy on 05/04/08 12:45, wrote: Chris Walters on 05/04/08 05:09, wrote: [snip] sorry, sent that by mistake. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

business card install - kernel

2008-04-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If I'm using the business card CD install, I get to a page that says, "Install the base system" and lists about 30 different kernels. I can't find any web page or documentation that explains the difference between each one. I have found pages like this: http://packages.debian.org/etch/linux-image

Re: [Not So Horrendously OT] Psychology, Economics and Debian Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Adam Hardy
Chris Walters on 05/04/08 05:09, wrote: s. keeling wrote: | Mark Allums <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: |> Hal Vaughan wrote: |>> stay alive. Some, those generally at the lower levels of Piaget's |>> Hierarchy of Needs, will say survival is important while those focused |>> on the higher levels (focused o

Re: apt-get errors

2008-04-05 Thread hce
On 4/5/08, Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 04/04/2008 06:48 PM, hce wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I guess somehow my apt list is collapsed. Please see following > > sources.list and errors. I am not able to do apt-get install anymore. > > Please how can I fix it? > > > > deb http://packages.de

Re: another X server restarts

2008-04-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat April 5 2008, Florian Kulzer wrote: > You can try to pin "stable" to a priority greater than 1000 (see "man > apt_preferences") and do a dist-upgrade. This will work to some extent, > but there will almost certainly be a number of issues that you have to > fix manually. ("Downgrading is not

Re: IBM DB2 V9.5 32 bits failed to allocate share memory

2008-04-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 11:54:53AM +0200, cypherstrong wrote: > Ok After well testing on both system ... I have found that DB2 V9.5 > FixPack 0 doesn't work on 32 bits system properly > Redhat sets automatically some sysctl value after installation: > > kernel.shmmax > > So that's why db2 don't c

Re: Debian? Not true GNU/Linux?? Say it isn't so!

2008-04-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 09:39:00PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > as RMS would in saying closed source is unethical. I also have to > wonder if he would have the same stance if, when he started that > crusade, he weren't at a university, but had to make a living and pay > the bills and pay for jun

Re: How to establish a wireless internet connection?

2008-04-05 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Saturday 05 April 2008 13:48, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > On Saturday 05 April 2008 12:41, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > Bare with my ignorance! shall I buy one? Which one/kind do you suggest? > > Thanks > Rodolfo First try to follow tha advice of Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: How to establish a wireless internet connection?

2008-04-05 Thread Rodolfo Medina
On Saturday 05 April 2008 12:41, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> >> I've never experimented a wireless connection with my Debian Etch >> >> system. Now I'm in a hotel in which a wireless connection is available. >> >> >> >> Can anybody suggest how I can make this thing work? I hope it is not >> >> too d

Re: How to establish a wireless internet connection?

2008-04-05 Thread Martin Kraus
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 11:41:51AM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Hi. > > I've never experimented a wireless connection with my Debian Etch system. Now > I'm in a hotel in which a wireless connection is available. > > Can anybody suggest how I can make this thing work? I hope it is not too > di

Re: How to establish a wireless internet connection?

2008-04-05 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Saturday 05 April 2008 13:09, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > On Saturday 05 April 2008 12:41, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > >> I've never experimented a wireless connection with my Debian Etch > >> system. Now I'm in a hotel in which a wireless connection is available. > >> > >> Can anybody suggest how I can

Re: How to establish a wireless internet connection?

2008-04-05 Thread Rodolfo Medina
On Saturday 05 April 2008 12:41, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> I've never experimented a wireless connection with my Debian Etch system. >> Now I'm in a hotel in which a wireless connection is available. >> >> Can anybody suggest how I can make this thing work? I hope it is not too >> difficult. A b

Re: How to establish a wireless internet connection?

2008-04-05 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Saturday 05 April 2008 12:41, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Hi. > > I've never experimented a wireless connection with my Debian Etch system. > Now I'm in a hotel in which a wireless connection is available. > > Can anybody suggest how I can make this thing work? I hope it is not too > difficult. A

How to establish a wireless internet connection?

2008-04-05 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Hi. I've never experimented a wireless connection with my Debian Etch system. Now I'm in a hotel in which a wireless connection is available. Can anybody suggest how I can make this thing work? I hope it is not too difficult. A bluetooth connection is already working in my system. Thanks for

EmacsWiki broken?

2008-04-05 Thread Csányi Pál
Hello! I try to open web page of the EmacsWiki http://www.emacswiki.org but with no success. What is happen to this site? -- Regards, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Need to reboot Debian frequently

2008-04-05 Thread Jeff D
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008, Pete Kay wrote: > Hi, > > Here is my w,free, top results when my linux server's network become too > slow again ( it just happened). > > w output: > 19:41:19 up 1 day, 20:07, 6 users, load average: 1.46, 1.85, 1.86 > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Chris Walters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Paul Johnson wrote: | On Friday 04 April 2008 08:45:14 pm Chris Walters wrote: | |> This would mean the end of modern economic theory (i.e. capitalism - |> socialism spectrum). It would require a completely new paradigm of |> economics, where every

Re: another X server restarts

2008-04-05 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 16:53:22 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Thu April 3 2008, Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] > > I guess the first thing to do is to unload the nvidia module and to try > > running X with the "nv" driver. If the problem persists with the open > > source driver then you have a

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 04 April 2008 08:45:14 pm Chris Walters wrote: > |> There's the rub. There are practical/political impediments to the > |> exercise of genuine software freedom (the whole panoply of patents, NDAs > |> etc.) which no software license, no matter how "progressive", could ever > |> hope to e