Re: Installing OOo 2.2.1 from backports on Stable

2007-07-24 Thread Glen Pfeiffer
On 07/24/2007 03:30 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 02:53:53PM -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: >> On 07/24/2007 01:50 PM, Florian Kulzer wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:25:21 -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: It says the packages *are* broken, which is not true. >>> >>>

Re: with etch, /etc/fstab root not needed?

2007-07-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Larry Evans wrote: > I commented out the lines specifying where my root filesystem > was located in fstab: > ... > then rebooted, and it worked ... Yes. That is normal. > Since the root file system is specified in /boot/grub/menu.lst, I > guessing somehow etch got it from there and consequently

Re: Diskless workstations

2007-07-24 Thread Ronny Aasen
> I would like to try this technology. I have DSL delivered through a DHCP > router, a computer capable enough to be a server, and other hardware that I > would like to become clients. I expect to use Lenny as the OS. [SNIP] > The other method is, of course, LTSP. I have found outlines of how to s

Re: [OT] Source Based Routing

2007-07-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Martin Marcher wrote: > i have a setup where i have a borderline box that has 5 public IP > Addresses (this is for the sake of example: 192.0.2.8/29), all is > NATed to 10.200.10.0/24. Now the IP the provider uses as gateway is > 192.0.2.9 which makes me have 192.0.2.10-14 as a usable range. Uhm..

Re: Diskless workstations

2007-07-24 Thread Sudev Barar
On 25/07/07, Robert Kopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't actually have Linux installed on my system at the moment, and am wavering between installing Debian 4.0 and Edubuntu, which has LTSP capabilities built in: Edubuntu is still not fully rolled out with LTSP kinks removed. Go with Ubuntu

Re: Terminal clock (script)

2007-07-24 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:04:36PM +, Oleg Verych wrote: > In case somebody will find it useful, i want share it. A script that > shows updated time and some more info in terminal's status line. I've > found this fun, when i use my desktop system. It's just text mode > actually. I use X very ra

Re: Diskless workstations

2007-07-24 Thread Robert Kopp
Sudev Barar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 24/07/07, Robert Kopp wrote: > I would like to try this technology. I have DSL delivered through a DHCP > router, a computer capable enough to be a server, and other hardware that I > would like to become clients. I expect to use Lenny as the OS. [SNIP]

Re: clamd niceness (outgoing mail: "From isn't in return path")

2007-07-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:06:18PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 08:53:13PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 06:56:18PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: > > [issues with gmail and spam scoring] > > > > I really can't help you with this, but for the r

Re: Debian newbie..Unable to start X

2007-07-24 Thread Oleg Verych
* Mr Geo (25-07-2007): > > Ok...So I've tried to run=20 Such kind of output (with obviously more information about your system, gathered and proceeded by "reportbug" tool) is a possible bug, you just can report to relevant package. Then experienced developers will help you if they will find ways.

Re: Diskless workstations

2007-07-24 Thread Sudev Barar
On 24/07/07, Robert Kopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would like to try this technology. I have DSL delivered through a DHCP router, a computer capable enough to be a server, and other hardware that I would like to become clients. I expect to use Lenny as the OS. [SNIP] The other method is, of

Re: Debian newbie..Unable to start X

2007-07-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/24/07 21:10, Oleg Verych wrote: > 25-07-2007, Mr Geo: > >> I've just started to use Linux. > > Congratulations! > >> So I try to install Debian 4.0 into Power= Book G4 with the minimal >> base system. > > OK, lets assume you don't scare of an

Re: Debian newbie..Unable to start X

2007-07-24 Thread Mr Geo
Ok...So I've tried to run apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv xserver-xorg-input-synaptics \ xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse xorg and it appear like this... Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree...Done xserver-xorg-video-nv is already t

with etch, /etc/fstab root not needed?

2007-07-24 Thread Larry Evans
I commented out the lines specifying where my root filesystem was located in fstab: # proc/proc procdefaults0 0 #/dev/hdb3 / ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hdb9 noneswaps

samba, cups and windows client

2007-07-24 Thread Nguyen, Cuong K.
Hi all, I just set up a printer server on my Debian box using cups and samba server. Everything seems to be fine when I use a Windows XP Pro Client to connect to the printer: the client can see the printer, I can add it to the printer list, and its status is ready. I also add the windows user

Howto get debugging info from gnomebaker for bugreport?

2007-07-24 Thread Gernot Hassenpflug
Hello, I have an issue with Gnomebaker crashing with a particular CD, and my Bug Buddy report gets rejected because there is no stack trace-back info, i.e., debugging symbols. I read the relevant general Gnome website page for this: - I don't see and *-dbg package for gnomebaker, and - although

Re: clamd niceness (outgoing mail: "From isn't in return path")

2007-07-24 Thread Owen Heisler
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 08:53:13PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 06:56:18PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: > [issues with gmail and spam scoring] > > I really can't help you with this, but for the record, they both came > through my inbox just fine... Okay, thanks. Ho

Re: Stability issues

2007-07-24 Thread David Fox
On 7/24/07, Mike Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I went ahead and performed the above. The compile session did crash a few times as usual, but the oom-killer never appeared. In fact, looking through the logs, it hasn't appeared since July 15th (the logs I posted earlier). So, I'm assumin

Re: Debian newbie..Unable to start X

2007-07-24 Thread Oleg Verych
25-07-2007, Mr Geo: > I've just started to use Linux. Congratulations! > So I try to install Debian 4.0 into Power= Book G4 with the minimal > base system. OK, lets assume you don't scare of any shell scripting and text console tools first, otherwise it will be very hard to yourself and to help

Re: etch setup and some questions

2007-07-24 Thread David Fox
On 7/24/07, lostson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: #1 I currently have gnome installed can I install KDE and remove gnome and if so how ? Sure, aptitude install kde would bring in the metapackage; hence, most or all of KDE. As for removing gnome, I guess you can do that too: "aptitude remove gnom

Re: Debian newbie..Unable to start X

2007-07-24 Thread Jose Luis Rivas Contreras
Mr Geo wrote: > Hi, > > I've just started to use Linux. So I try to install Debian 4.0 into > PowerBook G4 with the minimal base system. > After installation, I've tried to reboot the PC but it was unable to > load into GUI environment(startx). The error was like this: > > Fatal server error: > C

etch setup and some questions

2007-07-24 Thread lostson
Hello I have recently converted my machines over to Debian and am very happy. A few things I would like to know though #1 I currently have gnome installed can I install KDE and remove gnome and if so how ? #2 I like gnome but am a little disappointed in the fact that debian is only at versio

Re: Debian newbie..Unable to start X

2007-07-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/24/07 19:45, Mr Geo wrote: > Hi, > > I've just started to use Linux. So I try to install Debian 4.0 into > PowerBook G4 with the minimal base system. > After installation, I've tried to reboot the PC but it was unable to > load into GUI environm

Debian newbie..Unable to start X

2007-07-24 Thread Mr Geo
Hi, I've just started to use Linux. So I try to install Debian 4.0 into PowerBook G4 with the minimal base system. After installation, I've tried to reboot the PC but it was unable to load into GUI environment(startx). The error was like this: Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborti

Re: Getting wake-on-lan to work in Etch

2007-07-24 Thread Oleg Verych
* 24-07-2007, Raj Kiran Grandhi > I am trying to get "wake on lan" to work in Etch. I have a motherboard > with an onboard NIC which supports wake-on-lan. I have enabled > wake-on-lan in the bios. When I poweroff the computer during POST, I am > able to remotely wake it, but if I shut it down from

Getting wake-on-lan to work in Etch

2007-07-24 Thread Raj Kiran Grandhi
Hi, I am trying to get "wake on lan" to work in Etch. I have a motherboard with an onboard NIC which supports wake-on-lan. I have enabled wake-on-lan in the bios. When I poweroff the computer during POST, I am able to remotely wake it, but if I shut it down from Etch, power to the NIC is also bei

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Mike McCarty wrote: > Just my $0.02. YMMV > [*] > $ uname -a > Linux Presario-1 2.6.10-1.771_FC2 #1 Mon Mar 28 00:50:14 EST 2005 i686 > i686 i386 GNU/Linux > > It took my machine 3 seconds to do a "copy" after selecting > that text on my screen, because the disc ran that long after > I clicked on

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Mike McCarty
David Brodbeck wrote: On Jul 24, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Mike McCarty wrote: I have tried running some long-term computations in the background using my machine, and found that nice was unable to deal with it. Exactly the points he brings up... momentary freezes of the display (5-10 seconds) lots

Re: Stability issues

2007-07-24 Thread Mike Robinson
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > Next time you compile things, start a couple of sessions (=separate > windows): > - vmstat 5 - to keep track of free memory and swapping > - top - sorted so the most memory hungry processes are on top > - tail -f /var/log/syslog - to see when oom-killer fires up > - a co

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jul 24, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Mike McCarty wrote: I've found Linux using up to about 60% of my memory for "disc cache". This, I trow, is part of the problem. There's been much debate about this among kernel developers, I understand. On one side there are people who point out (quite correct

Re: Installing OOo 2.2.1 from backports on Stable

2007-07-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 02:53:53PM -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > On 07/24/2007 01:50 PM, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:25:21 -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > >> On 07/24/2007 08:40 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >>> > >>> aptitude likes to make you panic... > >> > >> LOL! A

Re: Installing OOo 2.2.1 from backports on Stable

2007-07-24 Thread Glen Pfeiffer
On 07/24/2007 01:50 PM, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:25:21 -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: >> On 07/24/2007 08:40 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >>> >>> aptitude likes to make you panic... >> >> LOL! And it works too. I have seen output several times that has >> made me think

Terminal clock (script)

2007-07-24 Thread Oleg Verych
In case somebody will find it useful, i want share it. A script that shows updated time and some more info in terminal's status line. I've found this fun, when i use my desktop system. It's just text mode actually. I use X very rarely to read pdfs (that can't be pdftotext'ed) or djview. It's also

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 04:02:39PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > [snip] > >> The modularity has some positives: a failure in one module will >> not bring down the whole system. of course this is pretty rare in >> linux these days too, but is certainly possible. It al

Kernels (Re: [OT] Interview)

2007-07-24 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 24 July 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: > > The GNU Hurd has existed long before Linux existed.  Hurd has > > been in development for many years.  (Hurd is technology of the > > future. Always has been and some say always will be.

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/24/07 14:36, Mike McCarty wrote: [snip] > > [*] > $ uname -a > Linux Presario-1 2.6.10-1.771_FC2 #1 Mon Mar 28 00:50:14 EST 2005 i686 > i686 i386 GNU/Linux > > It took my machine 3 seconds to do a "copy" after selecting > that text on my screen

[OT] Source Based Routing

2007-07-24 Thread Martin Marcher
Hello, i have a setup where i have a borderline box that has 5 public IP Addresses (this is for the sake of example: 192.0.2.8/29), all is NATed to 10.200.10.0/24. Now the IP the provider uses as gateway is 192.0.2.9 which makes me have 192.0.2.10-14 as a usable range. The default gateway on my

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Mike McCarty
Bob Proulx wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: To me it always smacked a little of "me-too-ism", too ... the GNU folks felt Linux wasn't GNU-ish enough, so they had to go write their own kernel. The GNU Hurd has existed long before Linux existed. Hurd has been in development for many years. (H

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Mike McCarty
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] The modularity has some positives: a failure in one module will not bring down the whole system. of course this is pretty rare in linux these days too, but is certainly possible. It also provides some serious security bonuses because a security failure in one

Re: [OT] desktop responsiveness [was:Interview with CK...]

2007-07-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 01:41:08PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [... the beginning of my further rant...] > > I completely agree. And it kills me. I have to wonder where all this > overhead comes from. Obviously, in the case of running a cpu-intensive > long-term job, its the scheduler. Bu

Re: [OT] desktop responsiveness [was:Interview with CK...]

2007-07-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Hmm, that's interesting. I wonder whether it should be investigated and fixed. there. :) On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 02:36:18PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> http://apcmag.com/6735/interview_con_kolivas > [...] > > momentary freezes of the display (5-10 seconds) > lots of g

Re: Installing OOo 2.2.1 from backports on Stable

2007-07-24 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:25:21 -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > On 07/24/2007 08:40 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [...] > > aptitude likes to make you panic... > > LOL! And it works too. I have seen output several times that has > made me think hard before continuing. But it's silly the way i

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jul 24, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Mike McCarty wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: Linux *is* under the GPL. But it's under GPL v2. The FSF is pushing hard for Linus to relicense it under GPL v3. The two licenses are not considered compatible. Hmm. That's interesting. Care to elaborate? I though

Re: Testing anti spam software

2007-07-24 Thread Matthias
Hello, On Jul 24, 9:30 am, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Write a small do-nothing program that lets me test the USR & HUP > signals. Make it simple enough that a poor C programmer can > understand it. I'll compile and run it, then send you the results. Thank you. Here is the basic

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Mike McCarty
Kent West wrote: It's my understanding that the Hurd pre-dates Linux; it's just that once Linux came along, the development on it moved at a much faster pace than on the Hurd, and Debian was ported to run on it while the Hurd project languished. For those not up on the project, as I underst

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jul 24, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Mike McCarty wrote: I have tried running some long-term computations in the background using my machine, and found that nice was unable to deal with it. Exactly the points he brings up... momentary freezes of the display (5-10 seconds) lots of ghosting of moving mo

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Mike McCarty
David Brodbeck wrote: On Jul 24, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Mike McCarty wrote: I wonder what those who support the GPL so strongly on Linux support mail lists will do in response to that argument? I personally don't like or use the GPL, so I really don't care. But ISTM that those who have argued so

Re: Installing OOo 2.2.1 from backports on Stable

2007-07-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:25:21PM -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > On 07/24/2007 08:40 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 11:51:28PM -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > >> Should I purge OOo first? This is my first attempt to install > >> from backports, so I am not sure about th

Re: Installing OOo 2.2.1 from backports on Stable

2007-07-24 Thread Glen Pfeiffer
On 07/24/2007 08:40 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 11:51:28PM -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: >> Should I purge OOo first? This is my first attempt to install >> from backports, so I am not sure about this. I have searched, >> but did not find anything helpful. > > If you

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Mike McCarty
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler, recently decided to quit. Loss for Linux (and Linus) Here's his reasoning. http://apcmag.com/6735/interv

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 01:46:29PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > David Brodbeck wrote: [...] >> >> To me it always smacked a little of "me-too-ism", too ... the GNU folks >> felt Linux wasn't GNU-ish enough, so they had to go write their own >> kernel. > > > It's my understanding that the Hurd pre-

Keymap with usbkeyboard

2007-07-24 Thread Arnau
Hi all, I've got a server with only USB connections, so I had to plug a USB keyboard. This keyboard is an spanish one, so in the installer settings I selected spanish layout. After the installation has finished I have some problems with it, the keymap selecte is an spanish cause letters as

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Kent West
David Brodbeck wrote: On Jul 24, 2007, at 8:34 AM, Kent West wrote: It'd be nice if a coder of Con's caliber were to get interested in the HURD. I think that project has a lot of potential, but I'm afeared it has little future without some motivated developers. HURD kind of suffers from bein

Re: source.list update

2007-07-24 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 07:29:37 -0700, Lorenas Bartkus wrote: [...] > As i understood, if i want to update the system via network i have to > update source.list, but when i tried to enter these sources: > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free > deb http://no

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jul 24, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Mike McCarty wrote: I wonder what those who support the GPL so strongly on Linux support mail lists will do in response to that argument? I personally don't like or use the GPL, so I really don't care. But ISTM that those who have argued so fervently in favor of th

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Bob Proulx
David Brodbeck wrote: > To me it always smacked a little of "me-too-ism", too ... the GNU > folks felt Linux wasn't GNU-ish enough, so they had to go write their > own kernel. The GNU Hurd has existed long before Linux existed. Hurd has been in development for many years. (Hurd is technology

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Mike McCarty
David Brodbeck wrote: HURD kind of suffers from being late to the party. It would have to offer something really new and exciting to pull people away from Linux and BSD, I think. To me it always smacked a little of "me-too-ism", too ... the GNU folks felt Linux wasn't GNU-ish enough, so

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jul 24, 2007, at 8:34 AM, Kent West wrote: It'd be nice if a coder of Con's caliber were to get interested in the HURD. I think that project has a lot of potential, but I'm afeared it has little future without some motivated developers. HURD kind of suffers from being late to the party.

Re: [OT] A significant negative impact on Linux's popularity?

2007-07-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jul 23, 2007, at 7:42 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Hmm. In most places I've driven bicyclists are required to share a lane, and are *not* entitled to an entire lane by law. Either you do not drive in Washington State as your email address implies, your you missed that question on the Washing

Re: [OT] A significant

2007-07-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jul 24, 2007, at 4:40 AM, terryc wrote: It is a no brainer for me as well. I always buy the windows versions of games now. I know I will get a far longer playing life out of them. The past Linux versions of games (and other apps) are impossible for me to get running on any of my linux s

Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly

2007-07-24 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 09:46:04 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm running lenny. recently after upgrade to 2.6.21, I found that I > couldn't logoff/shutdown properly from KDE/GNOME/windowmaker. By > properly I mean whenever I choose logoff, usually KDM/GDM can take > over and give me a l

Re: squid configuration for small office

2007-07-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jul 23, 2007, at 6:45 PM, rocky wrote: Thank you very much for your help! Could you give me some hint on how to automatically set up the 15 PCs using squid as HTTP proxy server please? I used this method: http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/ ConfiguringBrowsers#head-5aa28de5e8308087a925cb

Re: printing troubles

2007-07-24 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 01:36:28 +, Gary Parker wrote: > On 2007-07-21 at 18:50:29 GMT, Florian Kulzer writes: > > How do you print the test page? > > The CUPS web interface. > > > Is the hplip package installed on the shorewall box? If not, try to > > install it and see if that helps. > > Y

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 09:14:33AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:34:51AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. > >>> Con Kolivas, th

Re: Problem upgrading to libc6 2.5-9 amd64

2007-07-24 Thread pedxing
On Jul 19, 5:20 pm, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 15:33:48 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 08:39:41 -, pedxing wrote: > > > On Jun 7, 9:50 am, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 08:04:54 -, pedxing wrote: > >

Diskless workstations

2007-07-24 Thread Robert Kopp
I would like to try this technology. I have DSL delivered through a DHCP router, a computer capable enough to be a server, and other hardware that I would like to become clients. I expect to use Lenny as the OS. PXES is a live client CD, for those hoping to accomplish the job with relatively li

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Luigi Bianca
Kent West ha scritto: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. >>> Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler, >>> recently decided to quit. >>> >>> Loss for Linux (and Linus) >>

Re: Correct networking startup

2007-07-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 06:48:39PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > I have: > /etc/rc0.d/S35networking > /etc/rc2.d/S99networking > /etc/rc3.d/S99networking > /etc/rc5.d/S99networking > /etc/rc6.d/S35networking > /etc/rcS.d/S40networking > > and the S99 apparently is what gets done. Kind of late on for

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Kent West
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Kent West wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler, recently decided to quit. Loss for Linux (and Linus) Here's his re

Re: Correct networking startup

2007-07-24 Thread Bob Proulx
David Baron wrote: > I have: > /etc/rc0.d/S35networking > /etc/rc2.d/S99networking > /etc/rc3.d/S99networking > /etc/rc5.d/S99networking > /etc/rc6.d/S35networking > /etc/rcS.d/S40networking Those init.d files are not stock Debian. They have been modified. > and the S99 apparently is what gets d

Re: Installing OOo 2.2.1 from backports on Stable

2007-07-24 Thread Glen Pfeiffer
On 07/24/2007 04:50 AM, Mark Grieveson wrote: >On 07/24/2007 12:20 AM, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > > When I try to install with "aptitude -t etch-backports > > install openoffice.org", aptitude proposes an interesting > > solution. From what I see, I don't think I should accept it. > > It looks fine

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:34:51AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. >>> Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler, recently >>> decided to quit. >>> >

Correct networking startup

2007-07-24 Thread David Baron
I have: /etc/rc0.d/S35networking /etc/rc2.d/S99networking /etc/rc3.d/S99networking /etc/rc5.d/S99networking /etc/rc6.d/S35networking /etc/rcS.d/S40networking and the S99 apparently is what gets done. Kind of late on for many "99" functions which must now wait on it! Is this scripting correct? Sh

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Kent West wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler, recently decided to quit. Loss for Linux (and Linus) Here's his reasoning. http://apcma

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Hi, I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler, recently decided to quit. Loss for Linux (and Linus) Here's his reasoning. Hugo Did you

Re: XKB broken

2007-07-24 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 15:42:04 -0400, Celejar wrote: > Hi, > > On my uptodate Sid system, XKB has suddenly broken. None of my XKB > settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf are active, /var/log/xorg.0.log contains > the line "(WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB > keymap" and setxkbmap

Re: [OT] A significant negative impact on Linux's popularity?

2007-07-24 Thread Mike Dresser
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Paul Johnson wrote: If I can find where I filed them, I can send you copies of my traffic tickets, all of them to date have been on a bicycle. I zipped by a police officer doing radar once about ten years ago, doing just over 60kph in a 50kph zone.. He didn't bother me, p

Re: USB printer doesn't work with 2.6.21 and .22

2007-07-24 Thread Benjamí Villoslada
El Dimarts 24 Juliol 2007, Benjamí Villoslada va escriure: > in /var/log/message: */var/log/syslog Sorry -- Benjamí http://blog.bitassa.cat .

Re: Installing OOo 2.2.1 from backports on Stable

2007-07-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Glen, I've not used backports (I run mostly sid) and so take this with a grain of salt, but I read it like this: On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 11:51:28PM -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > I have OOo 2.0.4 installed from the stable repository. I want to > install 2.2.1 from backports so I added backports to

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi, > > I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. > Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler, > recently decided to quit. > > Loss for Linux (and Linus) > > Here's his reasoning. > > Hugo > Did you fo

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Kent West
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler, recently decided to quit. Loss for Linux (and Linus) Here's his reasoning. http://apcmag.com/6735/intervi

Re: USB Stick mount [SOLVED]

2007-07-24 Thread Benjamí Villoslada
El Dissabte 30 Juny 2007, Benjamí Villoslada va escriure: > Lately I receive this error (in KDE, Konqueror, Debian Sid) when I > select «open in new window» after USB stick plugging: > > «mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdd1, missing > codepage or other error In some cases

USB printer doesn't work with 2.6.21 and .22

2007-07-24 Thread Benjamí Villoslada
The Samung ML 2010 USB printer doesn't work with 2.6.21 and .22. I've returned to 2.6.18, then work --all Debian stock kernels and Sid. I see this in dmesg: -- usb 1-2.3: USB disconnect, address 13 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed usb 1-2.3: new

Re: Debian 4.0 CD/DVD LightScribe art-work

2007-07-24 Thread mc3393
Masatran, R. Deepak ha scritto: >Someone made art-work for Debian 4.0 CD/DVD's that looked suitable for >LightScribe. I do not remember where I saw it. It it not showing up in >Google search. > > maybe because is in German :-) http://www.ulrich-hansen.de/etch/index.htm Bye Luigi -- To UNS

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/24/07 09:31, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler, recently decided to quit. Loss for Linux (and Lin

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/24/07 09:31, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. > Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler, recently > decided to quit. > > Loss for Linux (and Linus) > >

Re: RE : Re: how to unmount usbkey

2007-07-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/24/07 09:58, Stephane Durieux wrote: > Hello, Please don't top-post. > Must I add an entry in fstab? > The problem is that I can t predict which device will > be used which justify the use of udev ! > so I could write several entries in fstab :

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler, recently decided to quit. Loss for Linux (and Linus) Here's his reasoning. http://apcmag.com/6735/interview_con_kolivas -- To

RE : Re: how to unmount usbkey

2007-07-24 Thread Stephane Durieux
Hello, Must I add an entry in fstab? The problem is that I can t predict which device will be used which justify the use of udev ! so I could write several entries in fstab : /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 corresponding to the same mount point but that solution doesn t please me Thanks > Hi, > > Can

Re: OCR questions

2007-07-24 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Rodolfo Medina wrote: > >> I tried gocr and the result was quite miserable. Then I tried with MS >> Windows >> and it was almost perfect. Somewhere in the web I read that OCR software >> under >> Linux is very poor at the moment and that it's better to use MS Windows for

Need help with 'debianized' Mediawiki1.9

2007-07-24 Thread John W. Foster
I have it installed and running OK. It's setup on etch. I want to add some extensions and there seems to be a conflict in doing it the way the mediawiki website says versus debian. In the LocalSettings.php file is this line of code: # debian specific include: if (is_file("/etc/mediawiki-extensi

[OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler, recently decided to quit. Loss for Linux (and Linus) Here's his reasoning. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubsc

source.list update

2007-07-24 Thread Lorenas Bartkus
> >On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 10:32:38 -0700, Lorenas Bartkus wrote: >>hi again :) >>finally i've used the command apt-get install pppoeconf and now i have >>installed pppoeconf (i founded this command from ubuntu which i tried >>before but i didn't like it) . is there any command to configure pppo

Re: Testing anti spam software

2007-07-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/24/07 01:39, Matthias wrote: > Hello, > >> But that means that Debian Developers are the way that "Linux" (the >> kernel? libc?, something else?) are deeply changing The Way Unix Works. >> >> And I just don't believe they'd do that. For one th

Help getting a 2.6 kernel with ports that work

2007-07-24 Thread S. Taylor
Can someone tell me how to get a 2.6 kernel that installs and gives me ports that work? I get ppp.log errors like "Can't get terminal parameters: Input/output error," kern.log says "Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 48 ports, IRQ sharing enabled" but "ttyS1: LSR safety check engaged!" M

Re: aptitude and "Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security."

2007-07-24 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hi George. George Hein, 24.07.2007 14:42: >> How about doing the obvious and searching for that warning? You’ll >> learn about >> Secure Apt and PGP keys. >> > I did this and am did not find the correct answer. > > Long ago I installed debian-archive-keyring via synaptic, this solved > all prob

squid sarge x squid etch

2007-07-24 Thread Márcio Luciano Donada
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am using in my server of firewall, debian sarge still, but today the night I go to migrar it stops etch, would like to know of the opinion of the staff if somebody had problems with squid 2,6 as proxy transparent, therefore I read in many forums

source.lis update

2007-07-24 Thread Lorenas Bartkus
- Forwarded Message From: Lorenas Bartkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: help Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 4:19:14 PM Subject: Unidentified subject! - Original Message From: Magnus Therning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Lorenas Bartkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Debian User Sent: Tuesday,

Unidentified subject!

2007-07-24 Thread Lorenas Bartkus
- Original Message From: Magnus Therning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Lorenas Bartkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Debian User Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:25:14 PM Subject: Re: new debian user. help :) On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 01:48:58 -0700, Lorenas Bartkus wrote: > >- Original Message -

Re: aptitude and "Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security."

2007-07-24 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 14:31:37 +0200, Arnau wrote: > Hi Mathias, > >> Arnau, 24.07.2007 11:54: >>> I've installed a new server and everytime I want to install a new >>> package the following message appears: >>> >>> […] >>> How can I remove the "WARNING: untrusted versions of the following >>>

Re: how to unmount usbkey

2007-07-24 Thread Bhasker C V
Hi, Can you try putting the mount options on /etc/fstab /dev/ defaults,user 0 0 Whatever you put, the option "user" is important which will allow you to unmount and mount volumes as user. On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 14:44 +0200, Stephane Durieux wrote: > Hello > > I use usbmount. But I en

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