Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:29:39AM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: > > maybe you should educate them a little bit? A fem in the LUG > > would have serious impact. I'm sure you could sway policy any ol' > > way you wanted... > > Haha...flattering as that is, I doubt they'd be that easily swayed. > Als

Re: Really annoying.

2007-05-08 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:38:03PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > >> Tomorrow my Etch is going to turn into Sid. I let you know how it does. >> Worst case scenario I can reinstall Etch. > > Before reinstalling Etch you can try to

Re: Really annoying.

2007-05-08 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: >> Considering that I am still a noob, I can feel proud that I can pluck >> things from experimental and still have no broken packages. I have even >> managed to edit a few files and written a couple of scripts, Oh boy. > > Heh.

Re: order of IDE drives in lenny ..

2007-05-08 Thread Towncat
In the meantime I actually found a reference to this problem in the release notes for etch. I haven't tried yet, but it should fix the problem. Here: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#s-device-reorder I've been using etch for some time, I wonder why

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-08 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:39:06PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> That type of law is one reason. Iraq and general foreign policy is another. >> > See, I thought the main reason that many Europeans were opposed to US > involvement in Ira

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-08 Thread Marc Shapiro
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:42:06PM -0400, Eric d'Alibut wrote: I seem to recall a linux command line wave player -- wavp, or waveplay, or something like that? Does that ring any bells with anybody? Alternatively, has anyone tried to build the *bsd audioplay package

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-08 Thread SB
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/08/07 19:55, SB wrote: >>> Celejar wrote: I don't ignore it; I agree that religion has made ordinary people do extraordinarily cruel things; my point was that this isn't a problem exclusive to religion, but to compelling and convincing axiologies in ge

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 23:29, Amy Templeton wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] > >> maybe you should educate them a little bit? A fem in the LUG >> would have serious impact. I'm sure you could sway policy any ol' >> way you wanted... > > Haha...flatt

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 23:17, Amy Templeton wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:03:18PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 05/08/07 21:55, Amy Templeton wrote: >>> [snip] It's a private college, and have no desire t

Re: How can I refresh Etch completely?

2007-05-08 Thread Mark Grieveson
> Greetings; > I upgraded from Sarge according to the instructions but I have > had all sorts of problems with it. > It seems to me that either something got corrupted during > the upgrade, there is something left over from Sarge that > shouldn't be, or there is the wrong version of a library > s

Re: How can I refresh Etch completely?

2007-05-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 21:26, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [snip] > Don't have mc? Pitty. Debs are sort of a special-format tarball and > there is some way to untar them but I forget how. They are "ar" files. To extract files from a deb: $ ar xv foo.deb

Re: Since chvt works, the problem must be the keymap [SOLVED]

2007-05-08 Thread Amy Templeton
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:40:02PM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: > > Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > What do you see if you disable your workaround, run > > > > > tail -fn0 /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > > > > and press CTRL+ALT+F1? >

Re: Versioned /etc ?

2007-05-08 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 19:02 +, J.A. de Vries wrote: > On 2007-04-29 @ 00:04:49 (week 17) Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 23:10 +, J.A. de Vries wrote: > > > On 2007-04-28 @ 15:36:10 (week 17) Greg Folkert wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 19:22 +, J.A. de Vries w

Re: Since chvt works, the problem must be the keymap [SOLVED]

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:40:02PM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: > Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What do you see if you disable your workaround, run > > > tail -fn0 /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > > and press CTRL+ALT+F1? > > Well...if I do that while I'm still in the XTerm, I see... >

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-08 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 17:42 -0400, Eric d'Alibut wrote: > I seem to recall a linux command line wave player -- wavp, or > waveplay, or something like that? Does that ring any bells with > anybody? > > Alternatively, has anyone tried to build the *bsd audioplay package on linux? Sox? [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-08 Thread Amy Templeton
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You *could* refuse to deal with people that send you documents > > > > that you cannot read, but reality says you must at least on > > > > occasion do so. > > > Amy Templeton wrote: > > Yeah, unfortunately most of the c

Re: How can I refresh Etch completely?

2007-05-08 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 18:54 -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > Greetings; > > I think I have something basically wrong with my system. > > Programs that nobody else has problems with fail with > a floating point exception. > [snip] > Any way, any ideas short of the old Windows stand by, > "Format t

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-08 Thread Amy Templeton
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:03:18PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 05/08/07 21:55, Amy Templeton wrote: > > [snip] > > > It's a private college, and have no desire to make this > > > anywhere near that insane, but thank you nonetheless. I'm > > > basical

Re: Problems with KDE on mounted home

2007-05-08 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 04:31 +0200, Rico Secada wrote: > Hi > > I have been testing KDE on a mounted home directory. I am using sshfs. > > I have changed the different KDE variables so everything point to > the mounted home directory. I have also made sure that both uid and > gid are the same on

Re: Really annoying.

2007-05-08 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 14:04 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 02:28:52PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 05/08/07 14:17, Joe Hart wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > Joe Hart is not worthy of being an ethicist. Although he does have > > > strong opinions, that is exa

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:55:25PM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: > GNU/Linux group on campus (I haven't contacted them at all, but the > impression I get from their website is that they're more into > prettifying things with Compiz and such maybe you should educate them a little bit? A fem in the

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:03:18PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/08/07 21:55, Amy Templeton wrote: > [snip] > > It's a private college, and have no desire to make this anywhere > > near that insane, but thank you nonetheless. I'm basically > > wishfully hoping for a quiet solution. > > If it's

Re: Since chvt works, the problem must be the keymap [SOLVED]

2007-05-08 Thread Amy Templeton
Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (My apologies if we went over this already. I have now totally lost > track of the various branches of this thread.) It's okay. Also, appreciated. > On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 00:26:29 -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: > > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On

Re: How can I refresh Etch completely?

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:54:36PM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > Greetings; > > I think I have something basically wrong with my system. > > Programs that nobody else has problems with fail with > a floating point exception. could you have an old version of libc? [...] > > It seems to me t

Re: How can I refresh Etch completely?

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 07:23:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/08/07 18:54, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > > Greetings; > > > > I think I have something basically wrong with my system. > > [...] > > > > Is this a clue? When I try to use aptitu

Re: How can I refresh Etch completely?

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:26:18PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:54:36PM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > > > > I think I have something basically wrong with my system. > > > I upgraded from Sarge according to the instructions but I have > > had all sorts of probl

Re: swap

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 09:42:43PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:46:35AM +0100, andy wrote: > >>> > > >>>Clicked on "our team", and the RAM got hammered again. Big freezeup of > > >>>gkrellm, then the page was loaded, and free RAM levelled out at 84MB. > > >>>Tha

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 21:55, Amy Templeton wrote: [snip] > It's a private college, and have no desire to make this anywhere > near that insane, but thank you nonetheless. I'm basically > wishfully hoping for a quiet solution. If it's liberal, and it probably is

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-08 Thread Amy Templeton
> > Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 03:49:54PM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: > > > > > > > > Can anybody recommend a *really, really convincing* source of > > > > information I can give people/my college that will aid in deterring > > > > them from trying

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-08 Thread Eric d'Alibut
Oops; went off-list by mistake. -- Forwarded message -- From: Eric d'Alibut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: May 8, 2007 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Command line wave player To: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 5/8/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Translation: "really excelle

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 19:55, SB wrote: > Celejar wrote: >> I don't ignore it; I agree that religion has made ordinary people do >> extraordinarily cruel things; my point was that this isn't a problem >> exclusive to religion, but to compelling and convincing axi

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 21:09, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:42:06PM -0400, Eric d'Alibut wrote: >> I seem to recall a linux command line wave player -- wavp, or >> waveplay, or something like that? Does that ring any bells with >> anybod

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 19:51, Eric d'Alibut wrote: > On 5/8/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Wicked pissah! > >> Wicked pissah?? > > Translation: "really excellent." Is this some sort of Weird Youth Slang? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson

Problems with KDE on mounted home

2007-05-08 Thread Rico Secada
Hi I have been testing KDE on a mounted home directory. I am using sshfs. I have changed the different KDE variables so everything point to the mounted home directory. I have also made sure that both uid and gid are the same on the local and remote machine. When I try to start KDE I get this e

Re: Well I'm back in business.

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:17:47PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 03:39:20AM +0200, pizzapie_linuxanchovies wrote: > > permissions. I am thinking of filing my 1st bug report ever for this, if > > there isn't one already. > > > > > Bastille has some "issues". I used

Re: apache2 - SSL

2007-05-08 Thread Tom Allison
On May 8, 2007, at 9:29 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 09:08:52PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: Ever heard of, "apache2-ssl-certificate"? I found reference to it on one URL about Debian Apache2 and SSL but I can't seem to find anything in Debian that actually have this name.

Re: How can I refresh Etch completely?

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:54:36PM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > > I think I have something basically wrong with my system. > I upgraded from Sarge according to the instructions but I have > had all sorts of problems with it. > > It seems to me that either something got corrupted during > t

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew J. Barr
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:42:06PM -0400, Eric d'Alibut wrote: I seem to recall a linux command line wave player -- wavp, or waveplay, or something like that? Does that ring any bells with anybody? Alternatively, has anyone tried to build the *bsd audioplay package on

Re: apache2 - SSL

2007-05-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:09:41PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > > Tried that. I eventually made things work by removing a lot of the > SSL directives out of the block and running them from > httpd.conf. > This is probably not what is expected if the configuration came > shipped with these d

Re: Well I'm back in business.

2007-05-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 03:39:20AM +0200, pizzapie_linuxanchovies wrote: > > Well I'm back in business. I restored my dpkg permissions back to normal > with this: > sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.10.28_i386.deb > > Also, I figured out that the culprit that removed others' execute

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:42:06PM -0400, Eric d'Alibut wrote: > I seem to recall a linux command line wave player -- wavp, or > waveplay, or something like that? Does that ring any bells with > anybody? > > Alternatively, has anyone tried to build the *bsd audioplay package on > linux? Last tim

Re: Upgrading from Sarge to Etch

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:49:15PM -0300, Valdir Marcos wrote: > 1. How can I backup my Debian 3.1 server before upgrading to 4.0? > > # cat /etc/debian_version 3.1 > > # uname 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux > > 2. How can I upgrade a ser

Well I'm back in business.

2007-05-08 Thread pizzapie_linuxanchovies
Well I'm back in business. I restored my dpkg permissions back to normal with this: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.10.28_i386.deb Also, I figured out that the culprit that removed others' execute permission on dpkg was indeed the bastille security package (at least the current Sa

Re: swap

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:46:35AM +0100, andy wrote: >>> > >>>Clicked on "our team", and the RAM got hammered again. Big freezeup of > >>>gkrellm, then the page was loaded, and free RAM levelled out at 84MB. > >>>That means that 110MB of RAM is being used to view the site. There has > >>>to so

Re: apache2 - SSL

2007-05-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 09:08:52PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > Ever heard of, "apache2-ssl-certificate"? > I found reference to it on one URL about Debian Apache2 and SSL > but I can't seem to find anything in Debian that actually have this > name. > Never heard of it. > So I'm back to square r

Re: does a home user on dialup need a domain name?

2007-05-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 09:16:27PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > I'll do some searching. The only non-resovable one I know is > example.com but then, I wouldn't want to use it since then it would be > resolvable :) > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ host example.comexample.com has address 192.0.34.1

Re: apache2 - SSL

2007-05-08 Thread Tom Allison
Ever heard of, "apache2-ssl-certificate"? I found reference to it on one URL about Debian Apache2 and SSL but I can't seem to find anything in Debian that actually have this name. So I'm back to square run. Can't figure out how to configure Apache2 +SSL. On May 1, 2007, at 7:29 AM, Roberto

Re: does a home user on dialup need a domain name?

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 02:18:41PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 03:05:23PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > Yes, I have identical /etc/hosts on all boxes (yeah scp). I know about > > NAT/masq and have shorewall do that. > > > > As far as inaccessible domainnames is t

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-08 Thread SB
Celejar wrote: > I don't ignore it; I agree that religion has made ordinary people do > extraordinarily cruel things; my point was that this isn't a problem > exclusive to religion, but to compelling and convincing axiologies in > general, and I reiterate, would we really be better off without them

Re: apache2 - SSL

2007-05-08 Thread Tom Allison
On May 1, 2007, at 7:29 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 06:55:01AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: I'm trying to set up apache2 for SSL. Did not find anything in the /usr/share/docs for apache2 related to ssl so I'm thinking the SSL stuff is pretty much up to me. It is just a

Re: debian linux-image update

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:53:23PM +0530, Vidyadhar Gadgil wrote: > Recently some kernel update for debian etch appeared, which I duly > installed. In Fedora, when this used to be done, the grub entry would > get automatically updated. But here it does not seem to have happened, > the entry is the

apache2 + SSL

2007-05-08 Thread Tom Allison
I'm trying to set up apache2 with SSL I can get http but on https I get -12263 on my firefox browser. Seems to be fairly common but I can't find anything that says you can fix it with ... Safari just doesn't work -- some lame excuse about not being able to make a secure connection. I can

debian linux-image update

2007-05-08 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil
Recently some kernel update for debian etch appeared, which I duly installed. In Fedora, when this used to be done, the grub entry would get automatically updated. But here it does not seem to have happened, the entry is the same as the original one. apt-get shows both the linux-images installed. S

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-08 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On 5/8/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wicked pissah! Wicked pissah?? Translation: "really excellent." -- No no no, my fish's name is Eric, Eric the fish. He's an halibut. I am not a looney! Why should I be tarred with the epithet looney merely because I have a pet halibut

Re: apache2 - SSL

2007-05-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 08:45:08PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > > I set Listen 443 in ports.conf and created a self signed certificate > using: > openssl req -new -x509 -nodes -days 365 -out $PEMFILE -keyout $PEMFILE > chmod 600 $PEMFILE > [ -e temp_file ] && rm -f temp_file > dd if=/dev/urandom

Re: swap

2007-05-08 Thread andy
Frank McCormick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:24:24PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: On Tuesday 08 May 2007 16:21, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:00:50PM -0400, Celejar wrote:

Re: swap

2007-05-08 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:24:24PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: >> On Tuesday 08 May 2007 16:21, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: >>> On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:00:50PM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Mon, 7 May 2007 12:15:31 -0400 >>

Re: eth1_rename: transmit timed out

2007-05-08 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 19:05:06 -0700, jason.public wrote: > On 5/7/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: > >On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 14:01:45 -0700, jason.public wrote: > >> Every once in a while, my eth1 interface dies with the following > >messages. [...] > >> NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1_rename: transmit timed

Re: How can I refresh Etch completely?

2007-05-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 18:54, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > Greetings; > > I think I have something basically wrong with my system. > > Programs that nobody else has problems with fail with > a floating point exception. > > Web pages that work fine for everybody el

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 03:49:54PM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: > > Can anybody recommend a *really, really convincing* source of > information I can give people/my college that will aid in deterring > them from trying to force people to use MS-Office files (by sending > them via email and posting

Re: Problem with compiling

2007-05-08 Thread pizzapie_linuxanchovies
Manoj--thanks for a real nice trick with the "dpkg-deb --contents"--I had no idea this would output the default file modes, owners, etc! Now I'm just wondering if dpkg can reinstall dpkg (reinstall itself?), to get back to that happy like-new state? After that, I'll be looking for the culpri

How can I refresh Etch completely?

2007-05-08 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
Greetings; I think I have something basically wrong with my system. Programs that nobody else has problems with fail with a floating point exception. Web pages that work fine for everybody else don't work on my system and throw a bunch of javascript and java errors. I upgraded from Sarge accor

Re: debconf problem in foomatic-filters

2007-05-08 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 17:35:26 -0500, Felix Lechner wrote: > Hi there, > > I have the following problem when trying to re-install foomatic-filters > on my system. One of the recent upgrades broke the package. Can > anybody tell from the information below where the problem should be > reported?

Re: TeTex to TeXLive

2007-05-08 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-05-08, Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 07 May 2007 23:35:59 GMT > Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> What I found, thanks to help from others here (Florian I think it >> was...) was that the directory structure under ~/texmf has to mirror >> that of /usr/share/texmf-

debconf problem in foomatic-filters

2007-05-08 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi there, I have the following problem when trying to re-install foomatic-filters on my system. One of the recent upgrades broke the package. Can anybody tell from the information below where the problem should be reported? Package maintainer Chris Lawrence has not yet responded. Sincerely, Fe

Re: Delete garbage in /var

2007-05-08 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:09:05PM -0300, Valdir Marcos wrote: > How can I identify what is garbage in /var? # du --one-file-system --block-size=1K /var | sort -nr | less Will give a good idea of where your disk space is being used. It is still up to you to decide whether it's "garbage" or not th

Re: DOH!!--I meant to ask this:

2007-05-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:13:08AM +0200, pizzapie_linuxanchovies wrote: > > DOH!!--I meant to ask this: Anyone who can do a make-kpkg under a non-root > account--what permissions do you see when you say ls -l > /usr/bin/[b]dpkg[/b]? > Are you using fakeroot? That is the recommended way to ru

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 17:25, Eric d'Alibut wrote: [snip] > Wicked pissah! Wicked pissah?? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Vers

Re: cups prints only on reboots

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 04:27:47PM -0400, Jameson C. Burt wrote: > When I print a file (test file has only 4 characters), > CUPS does not print. > However, whenever I reboot, CUPS will print all jobs, > clearing the CUPS job queue. > > I can repeat this by creating new print jobs. > [...] > > P

Re: cron and CRON

2007-05-08 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:59:19PM -0300, Valdir Marcos wrote: > Take a look: > > # pstree > init---atd > +-bash > +-cron---firebird > ? +-sendmail > +-cron---cron---sendmail > ? +-sh---curl > +-dhclient [snip] > # ps aux | grep cron > root 14094

Re: Problem with compiling kernel

2007-05-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 8 May 2007 16:11:54 -0400, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, 08 May 2007 12:47:28 -0500 > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, 8 May 2007 16:10:29 +0200, Raffaele Morelli >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > That's ok, I follow the general (healthy) rule and

DOH!!--I meant to ask this:

2007-05-08 Thread pizzapie_linuxanchovies
DOH!!--I meant to ask this: Anyone who can do a make-kpkg under a non-root account--what permissions do you see when you say ls -l /usr/bin/[b]dpkg[/b]? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Problem with compiling kernel

2007-05-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 8 May 2007 20:50:13 +0200 (CEST), pizzapie linuxanchovies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Thanks to everyone who replied with ideas about my post. Let me give > quick replies to the questions you asked me: > Manoj--yes, dpkg is in /usr/bin, and is in the user's path, but no > normal user

Re: Really annoying.

2007-05-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:38:03PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Tomorrow my Etch is going to turn into Sid. I let you know how it does. > Worst case scenario I can reinstall Etch. Before reinstalling Etch you can try to install directly to sid using either of those methods (though I prefer the busi

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-08 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On 5/8/07, Karl E. Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The "aplay" command from the alsa-utils package will play .wav files. Supah. And, I even have that package already installed! Who knew? Wicked pissah! Thanks, -- No no no, my fish's name is Eric, Eric the fish. He's an halibut. I am no

Re: (solved on my own) Re: how to use dpkg to list some packages

2007-05-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:47:25PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > > Just send a bug severity 'wishlist' with 'reportbug synaptic'. > Where do I send this too Andrei? I've just posted this evening to the 3 > synaptic maintainers, and all have been effectively bounced back. See my > reply to Cybe R.

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:39:06PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > That type of law is one reason. Iraq and general foreign policy is another. > See, I thought the main reason that many Europeans were opposed to US involvement in Iraq was because they were illegally profiting in Iraq in violation of

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-08 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:42:06PM -0400, Eric d'Alibut wrote: > I seem to recall a linux command line wave player -- wavp, or > waveplay, or something like that? Does that ring any bells with > anybody? The "aplay" command from the alsa-utils package will play .wav files. Alternatively, the "play

Re: (solved on my own) Re: how to use dpkg to list some packages

2007-05-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:29:58PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > > Not your fault man, but I emailed to all 3 maintainers there and all got > thrown back. See below. > > - These recipients of your message have been processed by the mail server: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Failed; 5.3.0 (other or undefin

Re: Delete garbage in /var

2007-05-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:09:05PM -0300, Valdir Marcos wrote: > How can I identify what is garbage in /var? Define 'garbage', your definition of garbage may be different than that of other people. (You can free some space in /var with 'aptitude autoclean' > How can I delete files and directorie

Re: TeTex to TeXLive

2007-05-08 Thread Micha Feigin
On 07 May 2007 23:35:59 GMT Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-05-07, Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I just jumped in, and the only issue I had was getting my source files > >> (ie. non-standard .bst, .bib, .cls files) into

Re: Delete garbage in /var

2007-05-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:09:05PM -0300, Valdir Marcos wrote: > > # du -skh * > 661Kbackups > 125Mcache You can probably get rid of most of this by running `apt-get clean`. > 27M lib Seems reasonable. > 1,0Klocal > 1,0Klock > 175Mlog > 12K lost+found > 2,0Kmai

Re: PCI controller issues and stable Debian vs latest ubuntu

2007-05-08 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 08:33:03AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:03:32PM +, Tim Johnson wrote: > > On Tuesday 08 May 2007 00:31, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > Burned and booted ... here's what I saw when I started the install: > > Debian tells me th

Re: sendmail and exim4

2007-05-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:04:42PM -0300, Valdir Marcos wrote: > init---atd > +-bash > +-cron---firebird > ¦ +-sendmail > +-cron---cron---sendmail > ¦ +-sh---curl > +-dhclient > +-exim4 > > > How can I discover what sendmail and exim4 are doing

Re: Really annoying.

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:38:03PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > But I would not recommend people new to GNU/Linux to run Sid. I still > only have less than a year's experience. It's only been a couple of > months since I formatted my ntfs partition. > > Tomorrow my Etch is going to turn into Sid.

Re: cron and CRON

2007-05-08 Thread Bob McGowan
Valdir Marcos wrote: Take a look: # pstree init─┬─atd ├─bash ├─cron─┬─firebird │ └─sendmail ├─cron───cron─┬─sendmail │ └─sh───curl ---deleted extra content # ps aux | grep cron root 14094 0.0 0.1 1764 820 ?Ss 00:21 0:00 /usr/s

Re: swap

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 02:46:01PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [bunch of stuff on bad websites] > > Short of getting into user quota, is there any way to keep an innocent > user (me) from inadvertantly crashing (ok, grinding to a thrashing halt) > the whole system just because I viewed a t

Re: Really annoying.

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 02:28:52PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/08/07 14:17, Joe Hart wrote: > [snip] > > > > > > Joe Hart is not worthy of being an ethicist. Although he does have > > strong opinions, that is exactly what they are. I mean come on, the guy > > isn't really running Debian.

Re: Quote or double quote error in crontab

2007-05-08 Thread Bob McGowan
Valdir Marcos wrote: In crontab, I have: 00 01 * * 1-7 root/usr/bin/sarg -f /etc/squid/sarg-diario.conf -d `(date --date "1 day ago" +%d/%m/%Y)`-`(date --date "1 day ago" +%d/%m/%Y)` And this line generate the following message: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Ap

Re: (solved on my own) Re: how to use dpkg to list some packages

2007-05-08 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 18:50, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:50:19PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > > it would be a nice feature for Synaptic's scrollbar to have both slow, > > and fast, up, and down arrows. > > > > Perhaps I should put this to Synaptic's maintainer. Anyone know wh

Command line wave player

2007-05-08 Thread Eric d'Alibut
I seem to recall a linux command line wave player -- wavp, or waveplay, or something like that? Does that ring any bells with anybody? Alternatively, has anyone tried to build the *bsd audioplay package on linux? Best, -- No no no, my fish's name is Eric, Eric the fish. He's an halibut. I am n

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-08 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 08 May 2007 19:08:11 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Jostein Elvaker Haande wrote: >>> I'm left speechless, honestly... >>> >>> http://arstechnica.com/new

Directory name like YYYYMMMDD in Squid

2007-05-08 Thread Valdir Marcos
Is there a way on Sarg to name Squid directories as MMMDD instead of DDMMM? drwxr-x--- 4 squid squid 1024 2007-04-08 06:25 07Apr2007-07Apr2007 drwxr-x--- 13 squid squid 1024 2006-12-08 06:25 07Dec2006-07Dec2006 drwxr-x--- 14 squid squid 1024 2007-02-08 06:25 07Feb2007-07Feb2007 drw

Delete garbage in /var

2007-05-08 Thread Valdir Marcos
How can I identify what is garbage in /var? How can I delete files and directories older than a specific date? # df -h Sist. Arq.Tam Usad Disp Uso% Montado em /dev/sda2 449M 132M 293M 32% / tmpfs 248M 0 248M 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda1 8

Re: (solved on my own) Re: how to use dpkg to list some packages

2007-05-08 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 18:34, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Nigel Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Perhaps I should put this to Synaptic's maintainer. Anyone know who > > that is? > > > > Nigel. > > menu, click , then > > Cybe R. Wizard Not your fault man, but I emailed to all 3 maintainers there

sendmail and exim4

2007-05-08 Thread Valdir Marcos
init---atd +-bash +-cron---firebird ¦ +-sendmail +-cron---cron---sendmail ¦ +-sh---curl +-dhclient +-exim4 How can I discover what sendmail and exim4 are doing in my Debian Sarge? Tho whom they send messages in a server that, theoricaly, neither

cron and CRON

2007-05-08 Thread Valdir Marcos
Take a look: # pstree init---atd +-bash +-cron---firebird ¦ +-sendmail +-cron---cron---sendmail ¦ +-sh---curl +-dhclient +-events/0---aio/0 ¦ +-ata/0 ¦ +-kacpid ¦ +-kblockd/0 ¦ +-khelper

Quote or double quote error in crontab

2007-05-08 Thread Valdir Marcos
In crontab, I have: 00 01 * * 1-7 root/usr/bin/sarg -f /etc/squid/sarg-diario.conf -d `(date --date "1 day ago" +%d/%m/%Y)`-`(date --date "1 day ago" +%d/%m/%Y)` And this line generate the following message: >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Apr 22 01:00:01 2007 Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] De

Upgrading from Sarge to Etch

2007-05-08 Thread Valdir Marcos
1. How can I backup my Debian 3.1 server before upgrading to 4.0? # cat /etc/debian_version 3.1 # uname 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux 2. How can I upgrade a server Sarge in productiopn to Etch? I do not have a graphic environment. Reall

Re: Really annoying.

2007-05-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 15:38, Joe Hart wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 05/08/07 14:17, Joe Hart wrote: >> [snip] >>> >>> Joe Hart is not worthy of being an ethicist. Although he does have >>> strong opinions, that is exactly what they are. I mean come on, th

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