Re: Lilypond

2007-03-31 Thread David Baron
On Sunday 01 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > dfeuer wrote: > >> This comment is very late, but I thought I'd mention that LilyPond is > >> another program for engraving music.  I don't know how it compares to > >> MusiXTeX (although it apparently grew out of a MusiXTeX addon, > >> eventual

Re: Which OS? Was "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-31 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That is a reason not to use Sidux. The devs of Sidux specifically say >> that aptitude and Sid don't get along well because aptitude has >> trouble keeping up with fast moving dependenc

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread David Baron
On Sunday 01 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I agree and disagree at the same time.  Some of this off-topic stuff is > quite educational, and sometimes quite funny. Yes, I enjoy the first couple of posting sometimes. But after that ... > You don't have to read it you know.  You see an off-

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Karl Goetz
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/31/07 23:35, Kent West wrote: > >> Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> On 03/31/07 23:35, cga2000 wrote: > >>> [snip] > > Not true. Try the lawn-guy-land accent for instance .. has the > ugliest > > and most exaggerated diphthongs of any English dialect I have heard. > >>>

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-03-31 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote: > Michael Pobega escribió: [...] >>>What are the advantages to having it? > > > You can be sure that the person is who says it is. We that's a pretty big simplification. It is possible to do that, but you mus

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/31/07 23:35, Kent West wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 03/31/07 23:35, cga2000 wrote: >> [snip] Not true. Try the lawn-guy-land accent for instance .. has the ugliest and most exaggerated diphthongs of any English dialect I have hear

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/31/07 23:35, cga2000 wrote: > [snip] > >> Not true. Try the lawn-guy-land accent for instance .. has the ugliest > >> and most exaggerated diphthongs of any English dialect I have heard. > > lawn-guy-land? Long Island. But my question ... Is / pronounced "root" or "sla

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-31 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > An interesting trend is that some small businesses who can't afford to > run pirated software, but also don't want/can't afford to pay for MS > Office are using OpenOffice. Only those who "can't afford to run p

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 11:27:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/31/07 21:39, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 04:18:33PM -0700, Dusty Wilson wrote: > [snip] > >> SQL = ess-cue-ell or sequel > > > > Sequel. SQL was actually a successor to Prequel. So, I think the > > No

Ding, Ding! (was Re: Debian User List)

2007-03-31 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 21:46 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I started using Debian with Potato. The transition to Etch will be my > third dist-upgrade between releases. I'm beginning to see a pattern. > > During the freeze period, users must pretty much stop confronting real > software problems on w

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/31/07 21:39, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 04:18:33PM -0700, Dusty Wilson wrote: [snip] >> SQL = ess-cue-ell or sequel > > Sequel. SQL was actually a successor to Prequel. So, I think the Not true. SQL succeeded SEQUEL.

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/31/07 23:35, cga2000 wrote: [snip] > Not true. Try the lawn-guy-land accent for instance .. has the ugliest > and most exaggerated diphthongs of any English dialect I have heard. lawn-guy-land? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a m

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/31/07 21:34, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 08:43:13PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> On 03/31/07 19:33, Karl Goetz wrote: >>> Dusty Wilson wrote: >> [snip] gnu = new, guh-new, or ? >>> guh-new (GNU ... is pronounced /guh-n

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-03-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/31/07 21:30, Michael Pobega wrote: > I noticed a lot of people on this mailing list have GPG enabled in > their emails, and now that I've seen it enough I'm wondering a few > things; > > What exactly does GPG/GnuPG do? Digitally signs and or en

Re: Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-03-31 Thread Kent West
Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote: > Dave Walker escribió: > >> That raises the question, though, about what happined to terminal 1. > >> Why won't it respond, and why does it appear to be comatose??? > > >> > If you don't want this to happen then you should use gdm or xdm or kdm, > then you just sta

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 11:48:12PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 04:18:33PM -0700, Dusty Wilson wrote: > >>lilo = lie-lo, lill-lo, lee-lo, or ? > > First or third. Never heard the second. > > Well, if you use the third, do you need to include Sti

Re: dreamweaver-esque webpage design program?

2007-03-31 Thread Jose Luis Rivas Contreras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i'll teach you to turn away. escribió: > hi. what's your favorite don't-have-to-think-about-it webpage > design program for debian? i'm thinking dreamweaver-esque. > NVU and Quanta Jose Luis, - -- ghostbar @ linux/debian 'sid' x86 - #382503

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-03-31 Thread Jose Luis Rivas Contreras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega escribió: > I noticed a lot of people on this mailing list have GPG enabled in > their emails, and now that I've seen it enough I'm wondering a few > things; > > What exactly does GPG/GnuPG do? Sign and/or encrypt things > > What are

dreamweaver-esque webpage design program?

2007-03-31 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
hi. what's your favorite don't-have-to-think-about-it webpage design program for debian? i'm thinking dreamweaver-esque. (if anyone's wondering, it's not for me. i code by hand. :P thanks in advance.) lish "ask me the questions [EMAIL

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 04:18:33PM -0700, Dusty Wilson wrote: >>lilo = lie-lo, lill-lo, lee-lo, or ? > First or third. Never heard the second. Well, if you use the third, do you need to include Stitch? >>vi = vee-aye or v

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 10:48:04PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had anything to > do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? > > The price of bread, love or hate Wallmart or Sponge-Bob, Ubuntu or Dell (ok U > is a Linux distro and Del

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread cga2000
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 09:11:21PM EST, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 01:38:06AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 04:18:33PM -0700, Dusty Wilson wrote: > > Canadian (7th generation, North Atlantic [St. Mary's, West Irish, > Highland Scott] descent)

Re: How to get profile to run when starting gnome terminal

2007-03-31 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
Michael Pobega wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 10:52:01AM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: I know there is a way to do it, but I haven't found the right piece of doc yet I guess. How do I get /etc/profile and friends to be run when gnome starts up a terminal session? TIA! Dennis /etc/pr

Re: Need help with SSH set-up

2007-03-31 Thread Guillermo Garron
On 3/31/07, Kushal Kumaran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/31/07, Paul E Condon wrote: > I'm setting up SSH to replace telnet for use on my LAN. I've gotten > basic functionality working but I'm struggling with ssh-agent and > ssh-add. Where should I put them? Or have invocation of them already

Re: Lilypond

2007-03-31 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 03:26:41AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > 4) The first rule of "In-Reply-To" headers is that you don't ever >include "In-Reply-To" headers. > So, what's the second rule of I-R-T headers? Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 04:18:33PM -0700, Dusty Wilson wrote: > > named = name-dee same. > pxe = pixie same. > Debian = deb-ee-inn Debian is a portmanteau of Deb and Ian (Ian Murdock founded the Debian project and Debra was his girlfriend, now wife). So, Deb-Ian would be correct. > bind = b

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 08:43:13PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/31/07 19:33, Karl Goetz wrote: > > Dusty Wilson wrote: > [snip] > >> gnu = new, guh-new, or ? > > guh-new (GNU ... is pronounced /guh-noo/, approximately like /canoe/." > > from

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 10:16:39PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 20:45 -0500, John C wrote: > > > > Greg Folkert wrote: > > > On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 13:45 -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > > >> Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> Actually, I would prefer if

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 08:45:15PM -0500, John C wrote: > > > Greg Folkert wrote: > >On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 13:45 -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > >>Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>Actually, I would prefer if [OT] messages would be kept [OOTL] > >>>(out of this list) > >>I sa

GPG and Signing

2007-03-31 Thread Michael Pobega
I noticed a lot of people on this mailing list have GPG enabled in their emails, and now that I've seen it enough I'm wondering a few things; What exactly does GPG/GnuPG do? What are the advantages to having it? How do I set it up to recognize other people's signatures? How do I set it up with

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-31 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: > Jim Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Hey, watch where you sling your insults there, buddy! :-) > > I think it sounded harsher than it was meant. Sorry for that. Oh, I wasn't /really/ offended, I was just exaggerating my rea

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 20:45 -0500, John C wrote: > > Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 13:45 -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > >> Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Actually, I would prefer if [OT] messages would be kept [OOTL] > >>> (out of this list) > >> I said th

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 01:38:06AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 04:18:33PM -0700, Dusty Wilson wrote: Canadian (7th generation, North Atlantic [St. Mary's, West Irish, Highland Scott] descent) southern Ontario dialect follows. > > daemon = demon, day-mon, or ? [Dee-mo

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Karl Goetz
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/31/07 19:33, Karl Goetz wrote: > >> Dusty Wilson wrote: > [snip] > >>> gnu = new, guh-new, or ? > >> guh-new (GNU ... is pronounced /guh-noo/, approximately like /canoe/." > >> from gnu.org) > >>> gnome = nome, guh-nome, or ? > >> to me, guh-nome > > Rhymes with "duh" and

RE: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-03-31 Thread Seth Goodman
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote on Saturday, March 31, 2007 6:03 AM -0500: > On 30.03.07 16:33, Seth Goodman wrote: > > That's a large enough hurdle that I think it safe to say the horse > > has left the barn on this one a long time ago. Continuing to insist > > that things _should_ have been differ

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread John C
Greg Folkert wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 13:45 -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually, I would prefer if [OT] messages would be kept [OOTL] (out of this list) I said this once before and got shot down, but here it is again: If this list is

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/31/07 19:33, Karl Goetz wrote: > Dusty Wilson wrote: [snip] >> gnu = new, guh-new, or ? > guh-new (GNU ... is pronounced /guh-noo/, approximately like /canoe/." > from gnu.org) >> gnome = nome, guh-nome, or ? > to me, guh-nome Rhymes with "duh"

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 04:18:33PM -0700, Dusty Wilson wrote: > In an effort to not sound like a newbie when speaking verbally about > Linux-related terms, I would like to know how to properly pronounce > these words. I've been training a co-worker on server management and > have run into quite a

Am I doing it right?

2007-03-31 Thread Michael Pobega
Very [OT] but who cares. It's enjoyable -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Lilypond

2007-03-31 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 16:32:11 -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > Kent West wrote: > > dfeuer wrote: > >> This comment is very late, but I thought I'd mention that LilyPond is > >> another program for engraving music. I don't know how it compares to > >> MusiXTeX (although it apparently grew out of a Mu

Re: Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-03-31 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 19:59:35 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 12:40:54AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 17:29:13 -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote: > > > > > > > > That raises the question, though, about what happined to terminal 1. > >

Re: Motherboard recommendations

2007-03-31 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 07:16:49PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/31/07 15:21, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > Asus EN7300GT Silent (nVidia GeForce 7300 GT), 245 MB video ram. > > That's (literally) an odd RAM number... > So my keyboard doesn't have home keys; they all feel the same, and they'

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 13:45 -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, I would prefer if [OT] messages would be kept [OOTL] > > (out of this list) > > I said this once before and got shot down, but here it is again: > > If this list is supposed

Re: cdda2wav lacks utf-8 or unicode support?

2007-03-31 Thread H.S.
H.S. wrote: Hello, I have made an audio CD from some music we recorded. The tracks information contains some unicode text. Vorbiscomment and metaflac commands display the track's information of ogg and flac files correctly in konsole (so the locale settings are correct and necessary fonts a

Re: Blog clients and the new Blogger Atom API

2007-03-31 Thread Michael Perry
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:40:07 +0200, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to use various blog posting clients with a new Blogger blog. > I've tried BloGTK and Drivel, and they have ca't connect to Blogger. A > little (a lot) of Googling shows me that the new API has broken old > c

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Karl Goetz
Dusty Wilson wrote: Depending on your stance, this could even be about GNU/Linux ;) (just speaking of 'correct'). > In an effort to not sound like a newbie when speaking verbally about > Linux-related terms, I would like to know how to properly pronounce > these words. I've been training a co-wor

cdda2wav lacks utf-8 or unicode support?

2007-03-31 Thread H.S.
Hello, I have made an audio CD from some music we recorded. The tracks information contains some unicode text. Vorbiscomment and metaflac commands display the track's information of ogg and flac files correctly in konsole (so the locale settings are correct and necessary fonts are installed

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Jhair Tocancipa Triana
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi writes: > David Baron wrote: >> Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had anything >> to do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? >> >> The price of bread, love or hate Wallmart or Sponge-Bob, Ubuntu or Dell >> (ok U is a Linux distro and Dell make

Re: Motherboard recommendations

2007-03-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/31/07 15:21, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [snip] > Asus EN7300GT Silent (nVidia GeForce 7300 GT), 245 MB video ram. That's (literally) an odd RAM number... - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him

Re: kscd doesn't show utf-8 characters

2007-03-31 Thread H.S.
Christoph Burgmer wrote: Maybe you should post that on debian-kde, maybe my hint does help: If you refer to setting the CDDB answer to utf-8 then my guess is to try something else then utf. I never had any album information stored in UTF-8, it's more likely to be some bloddy old standard, may

Re: Lilypond

2007-03-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kent West wrote: > > dfeuer wrote: > >> This comment is very late, but I thought I'd mention that LilyPond > >> is another program for engraving music. I don't know how it > >> compares to MusiXTeX (although it apparently grew out of a > >> MusiXTeX addon,

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Glen Pfeiffer
David Baron wrote: > Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has > had anything to do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? Likewise, how many threads have we had discussing the OT posts? Quite a few. :-P Instead of complaining about the list, which has been done a lot l

Re: Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-03-31 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 12:40:54AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 17:29:13 -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote: > > > > > > That raises the question, though, about what happined to terminal 1. > > > Why won't it respond, and why does it appear to be comatose??? > > > >

Re: Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-03-31 Thread Dave Walker
On 3/31/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 17:29:13 -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dave Walker escribió: > > > > That raises the question, though, about what happined to terminal 1. > > Why won't it

Re: Lilypond

2007-03-31 Thread Paul Scott
Kent West wrote: > dfeuer wrote: >> This comment is very late, but I thought I'd mention that LilyPond is >> another program for engraving music. I don't know how it compares to >> MusiXTeX (although it apparently grew out of a MusiXTeX addon, >> eventually leaving TeX), but it does produce good s

Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-03-31 Thread Dusty Wilson
In an effort to not sound like a newbie when speaking verbally about Linux-related terms, I would like to know how to properly pronounce these words. I've been training a co-worker on server management and have run into quite a few terms for which I didn't quite know the proper pronunciation. Al

Re: video card / crt monitor problem ?

2007-03-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
Peter Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all > > This is a real newbie question and I am now out of my depth. > > I have built a system out of my scrap box to experiment with Debian > (netinst from testing) using a RIVA TNT2 video card(nv drivers) and > Panasync 5G crt. The relevant

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread M-L
On Sunday 01 April 2007 07:34, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi sent this for all our perusal: >---} David Baron wrote: >---} >---} > Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had > anything ---} > to do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? >---} > >---} > The price of bread, love or

Re: xine: no plugin for MRL [SOLVED]

2007-03-31 Thread B_Kloss
Am Samstag, 31. März 2007 18:45 schrieb Nigel Henry: > On Saturday 31 March 2007 17:11, B_Kloss wrote: > > Am Samstag, 31. März 2007 16:20 schrieb Douglas Allan Tutty: > > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 08:54:04AM +0200, Bernd Kloss wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > on three different computers, al

Re: Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-03-31 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 17:29:13 -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dave Walker escribió: > > > > That raises the question, though, about what happined to terminal 1. > > Why won't it respond, and why does it appear to be comatose??? > >

Re: video card / crt monitor problem ?

2007-03-31 Thread Jose Luis Rivas Contreras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Ellison escribió: > Hello all > > This is a real newbie question and I am now out of my depth. > > I have built a system out of my scrap box to experiment with Debian > (netinst from testing) using a RIVA TNT2 video card(nv drivers) and > Pana

Re: video card / crt monitor problem ?

2007-03-31 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 11:21:25PM +0100, Peter Ellison wrote: > Hello all > > This is a real newbie question and I am now out of my depth. > > I have built a system out of my scrap box to experiment with Debian > (netinst from testing) using a RIVA TNT2 video card(nv drivers) and > Panasync 5

Re: How to get profile to run when starting gnome terminal

2007-03-31 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 10:52:01AM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > I know there is a way to do it, but I haven't found the right > piece of doc yet I guess. > > How do I get /etc/profile and friends to be run when gnome > starts up a terminal session? > > TIA! > Dennis > /etc/profile should aut

video card / crt monitor problem ?

2007-03-31 Thread Peter Ellison
Hello all This is a real newbie question and I am now out of my depth. I have built a system out of my scrap box to experiment with Debian (netinst from testing) using a RIVA TNT2 video card(nv drivers) and Panasync 5G crt. Using the gui for screen resolution I attempted to change between t

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that > >> the Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian! > > > > As much as I like Debian, but

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 05:40:14PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > > > Well, if people use [OT] on the subject I don't think there is any serious > > problem. > > > > Whom are you kidding? Some of us pay by the amount of bandwidth used. All > the OT th

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why don't we have a separate OT list that those interested in can > subscribe to where threads can migrate when they get OT? There's also Policy. But in my experience with another community where there are separate lists is that people tend to arg

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > Well, if people use [OT] on the subject I don't think there is any serious > problem. > Whom are you kidding? Some of us pay by the amount of bandwidth used. All the OT threads do cost us money. Moreover, there is the cost of archiving all these discussions

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
David Baron wrote: > Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had anything > to do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? > > The price of bread, love or hate Wallmart or Sponge-Bob, Ubuntu or Dell > (ok U is a Linux distro and Dell makes computers, but...) Endless threads

Re: Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-03-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
"Dave Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/31/07, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Dave Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Running Gnome in terminal 1 as normally privileged user. > > > Initialized by startx. > > > > > > Switch to terminal 2 (CTRL ALT F2) and log

Re: Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-03-31 Thread Jose Luis Rivas Contreras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Walker escribió: > > That raises the question, though, about what happined to terminal 1. > Why won't it respond, and why does it appear to be comatose??? > > Dave W. > > If you don't want this to happen then you should use gdm or xdm or kdm,

Re: Which OS? Was "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is a reason not to use Sidux. The devs of Sidux specifically say > that aptitude and Sid don't get along well because aptitude has > trouble keeping up with fast moving dependencies. Do you have a reference for this? I am using aptitude with sid for mor

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-31 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Andrei Popescu wrote: > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the >> Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian! > > As much as I like Debian, but wouldn't Ubuntu make a better option? > Actually no! If they go

Re: Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-03-31 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 03:54:54PM -0500, Dave Walker wrote: > On 3/31/07, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >"Dave Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >-- > Thanks, Andrei what you explained was exactly what I found. X > was not running in terminal 1 at all as I expected, but was

Re: Which OS? Was "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-31 Thread Michael M.
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 22:57 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > "Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I knew, for example, that for up to six months out of every two > > years, testing will be frozen, I could live with that. If that were > > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the freeze s

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 05:12:37PM -0300, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > On 3/31/07, David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had > >anything to do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? > > > >The price of bread, love or h

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Baron wrote: > Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had anything to > do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? > > The price of bread, love or hate Wallmart or Sponge-Bob, Ubuntu or Dell (ok U > is a Linux distro an

Re: Which OS? Was "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-31 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael M. wrote: [snip] >> Why don't we reframe this as: What is the best OS/Distro for Michael? >> >> Perhaps you have some conflicting needs that requires a non-standard >> answer? I _think_ that what I hear that you want is: >> >> More

Re: Which OS?

2007-03-31 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 07:39:09PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > >> If someone is looking for recent software, and stability, then Lenny >> might be an option when it comes out, but until it does, Etch might be >> the best fit

Re: Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-03-31 Thread Dave Walker
On 3/31/07, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Dave Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Running Gnome in terminal 1 as normally privileged user. Initialized > by startx. > > Switch to terminal 2 (CTRL ALT F2) and log in as same user as in > terminal 1. No commands issued in termina

Re: Which OS? Was "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-31 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael M. wrote: > On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 19:39 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > >> The problem with Ubuntu is that while it is based on Debian, several key >> items are different (restricted modules, sudo/root, etc.) to make it not >> appealing to many Debia

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, I would prefer if [OT] messages would be kept [OOTL] > (out of this list) I said this once before and got shot down, but here it is again: If this list is supposed to be for idle chit-chat among the debian community, then we really hav

Re: Which OS?

2007-03-31 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 07:39:09PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > If someone is looking for recent software, and stability, then Lenny > might be an option when it comes out, but until it does, Etch might be > the best fit. Sid is not "frozen" as Etch is, but is very cold at the > moment, so even Sid

Re: Motherboard recommendations

2007-03-31 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 12:01:12PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/30/07 22:44, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:09:23AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > >> I just built a system with an ASUS M2N2-SLI motherboard and an AMD64 > >> cpu. It looks very good so far. I have

Re: Which OS? Was "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
"Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What would be the differences between running Sidux and Sid? The [1] > "Why Should I Use Sidux?" page seems to stress security & package > timeliness over stability, so I'm wondering whether Sidux is any more > stable than Sid. It kind of sounds like the

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On 3/31/07, David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had > >anything to do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? > > > >The price of bread, love or hate Wallmart or Sponge-Bob, Ubuntu or Dell > >(ok U is a Linux distro and Dell mak

Re: Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-03-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
"Dave Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Running Gnome in terminal 1 as normally privileged user. Initialized > by startx. > > Switch to terminal 2 (CTRL ALT F2) and log in as same user as in > terminal 1. No commands issued in terminal 2. > > Switch back terminal 1 (CTRL ALT F1), and X h

Re: Which OS? Was "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-31 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mathias Brodala wrote: > Hello Joe. > > Joe Hart, 31.03.2007 21:38: >> Greg Folkert wrote: >>> "To infinity^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HLenny... and beyond!" >> I wonder how many people will not understand that. You know that only >> well educated or old-timers k

Re: gdm and intel G965

2007-03-31 Thread Jose Luis Rivas Contreras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Henrique G. Abreu escribió: > Thanks very everyone for the help. > But, as I said, I am a bit tired of installation. got many problems > with sata controler and later with the network driver. > I'll use vesa driver until kernel 2.6.19 comes to etch. >

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had > anything to do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? > > The price of bread, love or hate Wallmart or Sponge-Bob, Ubuntu or > Dell (ok U is a Linux distro and Dell makes computers, but.

Re: Which OS? Was "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-31 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 10:57:42PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > "Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I knew, for example, that for up to six months out of every two > > years, testing will be frozen, I could live with that. If that were > > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the f

Re: keeping tar quiet in script

2007-03-31 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 05:01:31PM -0300, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > > > > > >What about the classical "1> /dev/null 2>&1"? > > This probably has identical behavior identical to &> /dev/null, but is > longer to type. > &>/dev/null seems less portable. Here I have bash and dash, and &>/d

Re: keeping tar quiet in script

2007-03-31 Thread Peter Teunissen
On 31-mrt-2007, at 21:56, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: On 3/31/07, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm using a simple script for making backups with tar. I can't make tar quiet, so cron keeps mailing me 'Removing leading `/' from member names' . Adding > /

Re: Which OS? Was "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-31 Thread Michael M.
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 21:38 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > Greg Folkert wrote: > > > > "To infinity^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HLenny... and beyond!" > > I wonder how many people will not understand that. You know that only > well educated or old-timers know those control characters. ^G^L Anyone who reads Sla

Re: Which OS? Was "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-31 Thread Michael M.
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 19:39 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > The problem with Ubuntu is that while it is based on Debian, several key > items are different (restricted modules, sudo/root, etc.) to make it not > appealing to many Debian purists. Sidux on the other hand offers 100% > compatibility with Deb

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 10:48:04PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had anything to > do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? > > The price of bread, love or hate Wallmart or Sponge-Bob, Ubuntu or Dell (ok U > is a Linux distro and Del

Re: Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
On 3/31/07, David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had anything to do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? The price of bread, love or hate Wallmart or Sponge-Bob, Ubuntu or Dell (ok U is a Linux distro and Dell makes computers,

Debian User List

2007-03-31 Thread David Baron
Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had anything to do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? The price of bread, love or hate Wallmart or Sponge-Bob, Ubuntu or Dell (ok U is a Linux distro and Dell makes computers, but...) Endless threads filling my mailbox with irr

Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-03-31 Thread Dave Walker
Running Sarge 3.1r5 (all up to date), kernel 2.4.27-2-386 and Gnome desktop. The following situation is repeatable, behaving in the same manner each time: Running Gnome

Re: keeping tar quiet in script

2007-03-31 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
What about the classical "1> /dev/null 2>&1"? This probably has identical behavior identical to &> /dev/null, but is longer to type. &>/dev/null seems less portable. Here I have bash and dash, and &>/dev/null does not work under dash. "1> /dev/null 2>&1" works everywhere. -- Software is like

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