Debian for Desktop [Was: Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock]

2007-03-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > to happen. Debian includes desktop users but is not focused on them. > But recently there was some interest in a 'desktop' group in debian > to focus on this for lenny. Do you mean http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktop ? They are working since sarge was te

Re: Used tasksel to remove packages, now there are dependency issues

2007-03-22 Thread Glen Pfeiffer
Thanks for your help. Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > 1.You run Debian. You need a mail transport agent. Many > scripts are set up to mail information to root. Without a MTA, > this doesn't happen. Out-of-the-box exim4 on Etch will deliver > local mail only. Ahhh, that explains why my other

Ligue Grátis com o seu MSN

2007-03-22 Thread Hélio Cerqueira
Ligar do seu MSN Messenger para celular e telefone fixo sem pagar nada... Acabou a era do Skype. Foi lançado MSN VOIP, um software que você instala no seu MSN e com ele você poderá discar para celulares ou telefones fixo sem pagar taxas de uso. Basta instalar e sair ligando Maiores informações

Re: new features in gnome - better webdav support? (was: Re: "I do consider ...)

2007-03-22 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
H.S. wrote: > Interestingly though, I was a Gnome user. Due to the above problem, I > started using KDE temporarily. And I have started to actually like it. > KDE has some very cool applications, k3b being one of them (nautilus CD > burner seems too dumbed down for my purpose), and quanta being a

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-22 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:37:00PM -0700, Michael M. wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 06:34 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > All that is to say that Ubuntu serves a purpose, and it's a valuable > one, IMO. It's not for everybody; nor is Debian, nor any other distro > in particular. Ubuntu at l

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 20:45 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:32:55 -0400 > Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 23:26 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > > > Ron Johnson: > > > > On 03/22/07 09:39, Jochen Schulz wrote: > > > >> > > > >> If your /etc/fetchmai

Re: Removing KDE messed up the network

2007-03-22 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:54:30 +0200 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well another 'minor' problem has arisen, probably connected to the > > fact kde-desktop is no longer on my machine. No

Re: Removing KDE messed up the network

2007-03-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:14:14 -0400 > Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >Michael, see my reply to Andrei. DHCP started running by itself > > > just before I was about to re-in

Re: Used tasksel to remove packages, now there are dependency issues

2007-03-22 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 06:58:14PM -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > When I installed etch on an extra box I had plans for it to be a > file and web development server. Then my wife needed a computer, > so I gave it to her. But I wanted to tune it a bit, and started > by removing all those software ser

Re: Removing KDE messed up the network

2007-03-22 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:14:14 -0400 Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Michael, see my reply to Andrei. DHCP started running by itself > > just before I was about to re-install it. Alls well that ends well. > > Thanks for the replies

Used tasksel to remove packages, now there are dependency issues

2007-03-22 Thread Glen Pfeiffer
When I installed etch on an extra box I had plans for it to be a file and web development server. Then my wife needed a computer, so I gave it to her. But I wanted to tune it a bit, and started by removing all those software services she doesn't need. I used tasksel to remove the following tasks:

Re: Removing KDE messed up the network

2007-03-22 Thread Michael Pobega
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 10:06:03PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:59:04 -0400 > Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >OK I re-installed avahi-daemon ( and related dependecies) - the > > > error messages are

Re: Removing KDE messed up the network

2007-03-22 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:59:04 -0400 Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >OK I re-installed avahi-daemon ( and related dependecies) - the > > error messages are gone---and I can bring up eth0 with "ifconfig > > eth0 up" but dchp is not runni

Re: Removing KDE messed up the network

2007-03-22 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 03:55:24 +0200 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >OK I re-installed avahi-daemon ( and related dependecies) - the > > error messages are gone---and I can bring up eth0 w

new features in gnome - better webdav support? (was: Re: "I do consider ...)

2007-03-22 Thread H.S.
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:37:00PM -0700, Michael M. wrote: Personally, I'm getting a little frustrated being stuck on Gnome 2.14 when 2.18 has been released. Etch is two Gnome releases behind already, and Etch itself hasn't even been released. Out of curiousity, wha

Re: Removing KDE messed up the network

2007-03-22 Thread Michael Pobega
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 09:33:05PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:37:54 -0400 > Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Have you tried reinstalling avahi-daemon? And what kind of errors are > > > you get

Re: Removing KDE messed up the network

2007-03-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >OK I re-installed avahi-daemon ( and related dependecies) - the > error messages are gone---and I can bring up eth0 with "ifconfig eth0 > up" but dchp is not running so no network. How do I get it running ?? Do you have dhcp3-client installed? Try r

Re: Home Directory on External Drive

2007-03-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:26:12PM +0100, Cédric Lucantis wrote: > > > > > > 2. Should I place "/home/masatran", or "/home", on the drive? > > > > This is your choice here. With /home, you'll have the homes of all > > your users on your drive (except if

Re: Change Locale of One/All Running Application(s)

2007-03-22 Thread s. keeling
Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 02:54 +, s. keeling wrote: > > > When I give a demo to my friend, I want the desktop environment to use my > > > friend's language. > > > > Then determine the locale your friend understands, set your locale to > > that value, lo

Re: skype audio problem

2007-03-22 Thread rocky
On Mar 22, 7:50 pm, David Purton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 02:43:24AM -0700, rocky wrote: > > Hey, > > > Since I could not apt-get install skype on my debian stable system. I > > downloaded skype 1.3.0 debian source from skype.com and use dpkg > > installed the skype. Eve

Re: Removing KDE messed up the network

2007-03-22 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:37:54 -0400 Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Have you tried reinstalling avahi-daemon? And what kind of errors are > > you getting exactly? > > > I am about to try that - I dl'ed that and a few related pac

Re: Browser identification to websites

2007-03-22 Thread s. keeling
Ken Heard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Why not treat the problem, not the symptoms, and insist on only visiting > > websites that respect your choice of software in the first place, and/or > > let companies that don't know why you won't be doing business with them > > again or

Re: Browser identification to websites

2007-03-22 Thread s. keeling
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ken Heard wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to > gmane.linux.debian.user: > > > I would certainly like to see such and identification capability in > > Iceweasel.  What are the possibilities? > > Why not treat the problem, not the symptoms, and ins

Re: Installation advice needed for a really stable desktop machine

2007-03-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
Land Haj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm afraid I'll encounter more stuff like this with that kernel. What > other smp-kernel would be a good choice for my hardware? Maybe the -k7 image will do? HTH, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstei

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-22 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:37:00PM -0700, Michael M. wrote: > Personally, I'm getting a little > frustrated being stuck on Gnome 2.14 when 2.18 has been released. Etch > is two Gnome releases behind already, and Etch itself hasn't even been > released. Out of curiousity, what features are in 2.18

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/22/07 17:26, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Ron Johnson: >> On 03/22/07 09:39, Jochen Schulz wrote: >>> If your /etc/fetchmailrc is empty anyway, you can edit >>> /etc/default/fetchmail to disable the system-wide fetchmail daemon >>> altogether. This sol

Re: distro for 486 with 32 MB ram

2007-03-22 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 02:05:48AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 04:48:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > True enough. You can minimize the effort, though, (if you already > > > haven't) by only using "main". > > Done

Re: web browser choices

2007-03-22 Thread s. keeling
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 08:40:06PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 08:05:07PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > > > I've been searching for browsers for a while, and I've found a few > > > that I like: > > > > > > [..kazhakas

Re: skype audio problem

2007-03-22 Thread Mark Grieveson
> Since I could not apt-get install skype on my debian stable system. I > downloaded skype 1.3.0 debian source from skype.com and use dpkg > installed the skype. To install skype with apt (or aptitude, or synaptic), just add the following repository to your sources.list: deb http://download.skyp

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:32:55 -0400 Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 23:26 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > > Ron Johnson: > > > On 03/22/07 09:39, Jochen Schulz wrote: > > >> > > >> If your /etc/fetchmailrc is empty anyway, you can edit > > >> /etc/default/fetchmail to

Re: Removing KDE messed up the network

2007-03-22 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:33:54 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Have you tried reinstalling avahi-daemon? And what kind of errors are > > you getting exactly? > > > > I've had trouble with gnome and avahi-daemon a

Re: Removing KDE messed up the network

2007-03-22 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:23:34 -0400 Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Results: Network is screwed as that process also removed > > avahi-daemon. Now booting up Etch results in a bunch of error > > messages, and no network. Unless I can figu

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-22 Thread Michael M.
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 06:34 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > I didn't mean "seemed" in a way that I didn't know. I actually went to > the forums everyday, and there WAS at least three topics about > dist-upgrades breaking going from Dapper to Edgy, or Edgy to Feisty. > Dist-upgrades to break here, b

Re: Removing KDE messed up the network

2007-03-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 08:23:34PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 08:17:05PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > > After trying KDE for a couple of days...I decided it wasn't for me. > > > > Sudo aptitude purge kde-desktop. > > > > Results: Network is screwed as that pro

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 23:26 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Ron Johnson: > > On 03/22/07 09:39, Jochen Schulz wrote: > >> > >> If your /etc/fetchmailrc is empty anyway, you can edit > >> /etc/default/fetchmail to disable the system-wide fetchmail daemon > >> altogether. This solution has the advanta

Re: Speeding up boot time

2007-03-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking to speed up my Debian Etch boot speed, but I have no idea > where to start. It is said that linking /bin/sh to dash instead of bash should speed up the boot process. The Debian Way to do this is: dpkg-divert --add /bin/sh ln -si /bin/dash /

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:42:54 -0400 Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Sorry, but running fetchmail as a daemon is the worst possible way to > run fetchmail. > > Run it as a cronjob as a job as your user. It will work. You just need > to setup your .fetchmailrc properly. > > ANYTI

Re: host aliases

2007-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:40:13 +0100 Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > On 20.03.07 15:18, Celejar wrote: > > Not sure what you mean. How can I access it directly from the internet > > without knowing the IP address or using the long dynamic DNS name? > > put 'search the.dy

Re: Removing KDE messed up the network

2007-03-22 Thread Michael Pobega
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 08:17:05PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > > After trying KDE for a couple of days...I decided it wasn't for me. > > Sudo aptitude purge kde-desktop. > > Results: Network is screwed as that process also removed > avahi-daemon. Now booting up Etch results in a bunch of er

Re: Speeding up boot time

2007-03-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And to remove these I just remove them from /etc/init.d? > > > > If you don't use them, then I would do this: > > > > sudo aptitude purge apache2 avahi-daemon bittorrent > > clamav-freshclam hyperestraier mysql* nfs-common > > > > I have to just

Removing KDE messed up the network

2007-03-22 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 After trying KDE for a couple of days...I decided it wasn't for me. Sudo aptitude purge kde-desktop. Results: Network is screwed as that process also removed avahi-daemon. Now booting up Etch results in a bunch of error messages, and no net

Re: distro for 486 with 32 MB ram

2007-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 02:05:48 +0200 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 04:48:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > True enough. You can minimize the effort, though, (if you already > > > haven't) by only using "m

Re: distro for 486 with 32 MB ram

2007-03-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 04:48:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > True enough. You can minimize the effort, though, (if you already > > haven't) by only using "main". > Done. Main is still HUGE. > > > > What *does* happen when you run *apt-get* on

Re: host aliases

2007-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:40:13 +0100 Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tuesday 20 March 2007 03:44, Celejar wrote: > > > > I do indeed have my router / dhcp server configured to assign a > > > > specific IP address to the system, (recognized by its MAC address), as > > > > y

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-22 Thread Michael Pobega
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 02:23:03PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: I'm ending the argument here, but I just want to say that I've meant no insult to Ubuntu and to anyone else on these mailing lists. I just stated my experience from what I've seen (In my limited time using Ubuntu)

What do I use to reconfigure the network /after/ initial install

2007-03-22 Thread paje
I just did an etch net install and it asks : "...do you want to use DCHP to connect ... o YES o NO " YES is default. regards [i][b]paje[/b][/i] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 11:29:06PM +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > > I had to look it up, too. @reboot is a misnomer in my opinion, anyway. > It appears to be run only on warm boots while in fact it is run at every > startup. > If you think about it, every boot after the very first is technically a

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Jochen Schulz
Roberto C. Sánchez: > On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 02:21:45PM +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: >> Roberto C. Sánchez: >>> >>> To make it start up as user, edit your crontab (use `crontab -e`) and >>> put '@startup fetchmail' >> >> Oh, and BTW: it's "@reboot", not "@startup". :) >> > Doh! My mistake. I w

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Jochen Schulz
Ron Johnson: > On 03/22/07 09:39, Jochen Schulz wrote: >> >> If your /etc/fetchmailrc is empty anyway, you can edit >> /etc/default/fetchmail to disable the system-wide fetchmail daemon >> altogether. This solution has the advantage, that every user can manage >> his/her own POP accounts (without

Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 01:27:07PM +, ieb wrote: > I asked last week about getting Debian to run on my new box. > [...] > > I have just switched on the machine - it booted OK - got to Gnome > desktop... and the whole thing froze (reminiscent of the bad old Windoze > days) ... switched it off

Re: NVIDIA i2c adapter?

2007-03-22 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Baron wrote: [snip] >> I believe the idea is that the legacy driver as they are calling it will >> continue to be updated to keep supporting the older cards at least that is >> what I have read on the site whether they do it or not is another th

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-22 Thread Steve Lamb
Michael Pobega wrote: > I don't see how I'm biased. I personally dislike Ubuntu, Yeah, and you can't figure out where the bias comes from? > There's no need for you to be so hostile, I'm not being hostile. I'm not being hostile, just getting tired of your arrogance. You claim for all p

Re: NFSv4 oddities

2007-03-22 Thread Greg Folkert
Just a reminder I am subscribed to the Debian User list. Please only respond to the list and not me as well. On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 18:56 +0200, Juha Jäykkä wrote: > > I've been reading quite a lot on NFSv(234) and I came across a bug in > > Debian and other distros that when all needed daemons (lo

Re: NVIDIA i2c adapter?

2007-03-22 Thread David Baron
On Thursday 22 March 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Getting this booting a 2.6.20-3 rt-patched kernel: > > >> > > >> Mar 22 08:08:43 d_baron kernel: **WARNING** I2C adapter driver [NVIDIA > > >> i2c adapter 0 at 1:00.0] forgot to specify physical device; fix it! > > >> Mar 22 08:08:43 d_baro

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-22 Thread Michael Pobega
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 01:09:00PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: > > a point). And if you don't want to believe me then don't, /I/ don't > > care what you think, /I'm/ just trying to get /my/ point across in > > what /I've/ seen in /my/ experience. > > That's find. And in m

Re: host aliases

2007-03-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > On Tuesday 20 March 2007 03:44, Celejar wrote: > > > I do indeed have my router / dhcp server configured to assign a > > > specific IP address to the system, (recognized by its MAC address), as > > > you suggest. The problem is that I also access the same system over the > > > internet via dyna

Re: Hang up when "Starting PC card services."

2007-03-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 20.03.07 09:45, Brian Hanson wrote: > Subject: Hang up when "Starting PC card services." > > Version: 3.1r3 > > Machine: Dell Inspiron 8000 > Processor: Pentium III 700/550MHz > Memory: 256 KB > > > Comments/Problems: I experienced considerable video distortion when > trying to boot fr

Re: Home Directory on External Drive

2007-03-22 Thread Bob McGowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are some thoughts: --deleted-- * Consider assigning a GUID to the ext3 partition instead of a label. Labels are certainly simpler, but a GUID is more likely to be unique (though I'm sure you could come up with a pretty unique but still simple label...). There is a

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:08:42 + (UTC) Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:13:41 -0400, Celejar wrote in > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] > > [0] http://www.opiniojuris.org/posts/1169078731.shtml > > ..neocon propaganda show, ignores the fact that the Taliban was the >

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:21:58 -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 11:08:42PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:13:41 -0400, Celejar wrote in > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > > > It is not at all obvious that the fourth convention applies to

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:08:42 + (UTC) Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:13:41 -0400, Celejar wrote in > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] > > International law to which the US is a signatory? I violently reject the > > notion that we're bound by international law to whi

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 13:10 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 22 Mar, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:38 +0800, Jian Jun Wang wrote: > >> > >> I installed Debian etch on my laptop and I want to configure > >> fetchmail to get my mails from gmail. In order to run fetchmail at >

Re: What do I use to reconfigure the network /after/ initial install on Etch?

2007-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:12:00 +0200 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:58:20 -0500 > > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I wrote: > > > > Manual changes to conffiles are preserved. > > > > > > Celejar writes:

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-22 Thread Steve Lamb
Michael Pobega wrote: > a point). And if you don't want to believe me then don't, /I/ don't > care what you think, /I'm/ just trying to get /my/ point across in > what /I've/ seen in /my/ experience. That's find. And in my opinion and my experience you're biased and full of crap. --

Re: Browser identification to websites

2007-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:41:38 +0100 Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Celejar wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:15:30 +0100 > > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Celejar

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:45:36 +0100 Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Celejar wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:36:23 +0100 > > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Steve L

Re: Speeding up boot time

2007-03-22 Thread Cassiano Leal
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Cassiano Leal wrote: Just one thing, though... When I 'echo -n mem > /sys/power/state', it responds it can't write to the file. 'echo -n disk > /sys/power/state' works flawlessly, though. You are missing suspend-to-ram (S3) functionality

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:59:35 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 21 Mar, Celejar wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:58:56 -0400 (EDT) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> ... > > >> Acutually, it is the 3rd Geneva convention that only applies to > >> lawful combatants. The 4th conven

Re: Change Locale of One/All Running Application(s)

2007-03-22 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 02:54 +, s. keeling wrote: > > When I give a demo to my friend, I want the desktop environment to use my > > friend's language. > > Then determine the locale your friend understands, set your locale to > that value, logout, then log back in, and re-start your applicatio

Re: Speeding up boot time

2007-03-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Cassiano Leal wrote: > Just one thing, though... When I 'echo -n mem > /sys/power/state', it > responds it can't write to the file. 'echo -n disk > /sys/power/state' > works flawlessly, though. You are missing suspend-to-ram (S3) functionality in the kernel or in your ACPI s

Re: Resolving .local domain FQDN on client [SOLVED]

2007-03-22 Thread Richard Harb (debian)
On Thursday 22 March 2007 17:14, I wrote: > Hello list, > > I have a server running bind that is master for 'domain.local'. > When I try to use a FQDN from within an application on my debian > etch 'desktop machine' (e.g. in a browser: http://host.domain.local/) it > does not resolve / ask the DNS

Re: Speeding up boot time

2007-03-22 Thread Cassiano Leal
Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Pobega wrote: I'm looking to speed up my Debian Etch boot speed, but I have no idea where to start. Install the uswsusp package. Don't shut your system down. Just suspen

Re: Home Directory on External Drive

2007-03-22 Thread alphadeltapapa
Here are some thoughts: * Use LVM. It's great, and works well with external USB drives. It will detect it on boot, or you can run /etc/init.d/lvm anytime to redetect newly-connected drives. * Consider assigning a GUID to the ext3 partition instead of a label. Labels are certainly simpler, but a

configuring apt.conf

2007-03-22 Thread abdelkader belahcene
Hi every body I want to customize the apt.conf, in order to save the cache of the packages ( by default) the cache is deleted, but it is not working, although I followed the doc In fact I created a local repository with in sources.list deb file:///home etch/ and I want to put there all the downl

Re: broken upgrade of postfix_2.3.7-3 -> 2.3.8-2 (etch) (SOLVED)

2007-03-22 Thread Michael Shuler
Michael Shuler wrote: > Jochen Schulz wrote: >> . > > Thanks for the bug link, Jochen - there was no report in my bug search, > prior to posting yesterday. The notes on this bug seem to reflect all > the same behavior I am seeing with 2.3.8

Re: get update

2007-03-22 Thread galevsky
/etc/apt/sources.list conf file exactly. You're right ;o) 2007/3/22, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > if you are quite sure to have a good /etc/apt/sources.conf file, try to > ping the server(s) before updating. But if it is a local problem, we need

RE: Installation - deselect "standard" task ???

2007-03-22 Thread Erik Cummings
Joey (et al), Top post here...cause I'm just WAY too tired to scroll down. I've been beaten. I can CONSISTENTLY recreate this hang every install EXCEPT when I set DEBCONF_DEBUG. So, using 'install DEBCONF_DEBUG=5' the install does not hang. I can do this back-to-back,

Re: get update

2007-03-22 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > if you are quite sure to have a good /etc/apt/sources.conf file, try to > ping the server(s) before updating. But if it is a local problem, we need > more info before going ahead as Joe said. You mean /etc/apt/sources.list right? raju -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: Resolving .local domain FQDN on client

2007-03-22 Thread Bernard
Hello Richard, Take a look at the man page of host.conf and specially at the option mdns. You might need to set "mdns off" in the file host.conf. I got a similar problem with .local in the past and that fixed my problem. Bernard On 3/22/07, Richard Harb (debian) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hel

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread judd
On 22 Mar, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:38 +0800, Jian Jun Wang wrote: >> >> I installed Debian etch on my laptop and I want to configure >> fetchmail to get my mails from gmail. In order to run fetchmail at >> startup, I did >> 1. Installed sysv-rc-conf and toggle fetchmail in i

Re: Resolving .local domain FQDN on client

2007-03-22 Thread Jeff D
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Richard Harb (debian) wrote: Hello list, I have a server running bind that is master for 'domain.local'. When I try to use a FQDN from within an application on my debian etch 'desktop machine' (e.g. in a browser: http://host.domain.local/) it does not resolve / ask the DNS

Re: NFSv4 oddities

2007-03-22 Thread Juha Jäykkä
> I've been reading quite a lot on NFSv(234) and I came across a bug in > Debian and other distros that when all needed daemons (lockd, nfsd, > idmapd, etc...) You still may have to use "kinit" to refresh your ticket > after mounting the nfs share. This sounds like The Thing: after being away from

Re: NVIDIA i2c adapter?

2007-03-22 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephen Cormier wrote: [snip] >> Sorry to say, you'll either have to live with that error, downgrade your >> kernel, use open drivers or get a new video card. Those are the only >> options I see. >> >> Joe > > I believe the idea is that the legacy dr

Re: Sound on Linux?

2007-03-22 Thread Bob McGowan
Raffaele Morelli wrote: > lsof man page illustrates a -t option which lets you pipe "terse" output > to kill, which makes me suppose 'kill -9 pid' does not kill hanging > files belonging to processes. > > raffaele > > There's no such thing, that I know

Re: Unable to change tty /dev/tty1

2007-03-22 Thread Bob McGowan
Mr. Suhas Ghosh wrote: Hi, Thank you very much Joe and Florian for your response. Actually this is part of a Embedded system. So my total root file system will be in flash which is read only. So I can not make root read write. I have another RW root also. but there is no problem like Unable to c

Resolving .local domain FQDN on client

2007-03-22 Thread Richard Harb (debian)
Hello list, I have a server running bind that is master for 'domain.local'. When I try to use a FQDN from within an application on my debian etch 'desktop machine' (e.g. in a browser: http://host.domain.local/) it does not resolve / ask the DNS server for the address. with the tool 'host' I ca

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 02:21:45PM +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez: > > > > To make it start up as user, edit your crontab (use `crontab -e`) and > > put '@startup fetchmail' > > Oh, and BTW: it's "@reboot", not "@startup". :) > Doh! My mistake. I was going from memory and did

Re: NVIDIA i2c adapter?

2007-03-22 Thread Stephen Cormier
On March 22, 2007 12:22:42 pm Joe Hart wrote: > Stephen Cormier wrote: > > On March 22, 2007 07:11:54 am David Baron wrote: > >> Getting this booting a 2.6.20-3 rt-patched kernel: > >> > >> Mar 22 08:08:43 d_baron kernel: **WARNING** I2C adapter driver [NVIDIA > >> i2c adapter 0 at 1:00.0] forgot t

Re: Problems with GRUB and SATA

2007-03-22 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 01:27:07PM +, ieb wrote: > I asked last week about getting Debian to run on my new box. > [snip: running Etch] > Everything worked fin until Saturday switched on and it failed with > an Error 18 at the GRUB. > > It took me 8 attempts over the weekend to reinstall

Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why

2007-03-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/22/07 10:32, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:22:34 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 03/22/07 04:35, Micha Feigin wrote: > [snip] Why not? other MUAs do it just fine (sylpheed for example). I have a 14"

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/22/07 10:42, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:38 +0800, Jian Jun Wang wrote: >> I installed Debian etch on my laptop and I want to configure fetchmail >> to get my mails from gmail. In order to run fetchmail at startup, I >> did >>

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/22/07 09:39, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Ron Johnson: >> On 03/22/07 08:18, Jochen Schulz wrote: >>> Ron Johnson: On 03/22/07 08:03, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > To make it start up as user, edit your crontab (use `crontab -e`) and >

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:38 +0800, Jian Jun Wang wrote: > > I installed Debian etch on my laptop and I want to configure fetchmail > to get my mails from gmail. In order to run fetchmail at startup, I > did > 1. Installed sysv-rc-conf and toggle fetchmail in it as root > 2. edit /etc/default/fetc

Re: How can I force a clean reinstall of xfree86?

2007-03-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 00:47 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I have tried running dpkg-reconfigure xfree86 > > Are you sure you're running xfree86? Nowadays xorg is much more common. Sarge still uses XFree86. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Mi

Re: How can I force a clean reinstall of xfree86?

2007-03-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 20:40 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Greetings; > > Before I do the Windows thing of a complete reinwtall of > the system for the fourth time, can anybody tell me how to > do this? > > There is something wrong and the xserver won't come up. > > All it says is "I cannot s

Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why

2007-03-22 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:22:34 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/22/07 04:35, Micha Feigin wrote: > [snip] > > Why not? other MUAs do it just fine (sylpheed for example). I have a 14" > > screen so for proper use of screen real

Re: getting fluendo mp3 plugin to work with etch.

2007-03-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 17:09 +1100, Lex Hider wrote: > Hi, > I can't seem to get fluendo codecs to be recognised when in > $HOME/.gstreamer-0.10/plugins. > > I have: > $HOME/.gstreamer-0.10/plugins/libgstflump3dec.so > > yet: > $ gst-inspect-0.10 flump3dec > No such element or plugin 'flump3dec'

Re: getting fluendo mp3 plugin to work with etch.

2007-03-22 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 17:09 +1100, Lex Hider wrote: > I can't seem to get fluendo codecs to be recognised when in > $HOME/.gstreamer-0.10/plugins. > > I have: > $HOME/.gstreamer-0.10/plugins/libgstflump3dec.so > > yet: > $ gst-inspect-0.10 flump3dec > No such element or plugin 'flump3dec' > > O

Re: NFSv4 oddities

2007-03-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 15:14 +0200, Juha Jäykkä wrote: > Hi! > > I'm having trouble with NFSv4 mounts on etch. There are two (possibly > related) problems. The first one is simple: the mount becomes > inaccessible (permission denied) every now and then (it is mounted with > sec=krb5), with no disce

Re: NVIDIA i2c adapter?

2007-03-22 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephen Cormier wrote: > On March 22, 2007 07:11:54 am David Baron wrote: >> Getting this booting a 2.6.20-3 rt-patched kernel: >> >> Mar 22 08:08:43 d_baron kernel: **WARNING** I2C adapter driver [NVIDIA i2c >> adapter 0 at 1:00.0] forgot to specify p

  1   2   >