Re: nvidia-glx in experimental

2007-03-19 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/19/07 13:15, Joe Hart wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 03/18/07 15:24, Joe Hart wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/18/07 14:14, Joe Hart wrote: [snip] >> As for the issue at hand, how long does it take to reins

Installation - deselect "standard" task ???

2007-03-19 Thread Erik Cummings
Alright - I've asked (and am pursuing) a different problem about my install not completing if I have any tasks selected (lots of "mirror" problem references, but I have tried 3 different mirrors about 6-7 times each!). The workaround is if I do NOT select the "standard" task and complete the in

Re: web browser choices

2007-03-19 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:03:33 -0600 "Javier Vasquez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > I'm sure you'll get better and more pertinent replies, even for the > opera vs firefox never ending war. If you'd like to have java > support, https, and occasionally flash, then I don't see lynx, links, > di

Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why

2007-03-19 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:12:55 -0400 Matthew K Poer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Well, clearly from my email address, I do use Gmail. I like evolution Not so clear; look at my email address, but I almost never use the Gmail interface. Gmail offers SMTP / POP3 access. > better than any web

Re: ddclient cron job

2007-03-19 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:37:29 -0400 Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > I know ddclient can run as a daemon, but most of the time that daemon > doesn't work and I end up just having to run ddclient manually myself. > I'd just like to be able to set it as a cronjob, if that's possibl

Re: Alternatives to Dreamweaver (was: Re: Wine)

2007-03-19 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:58:47 -0400 Matthew K Poer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > 2. For creating an intricate web site, or a series of web pages, Learn > XHTML, CSS, and perhaps javascript. Code it from scratch in nano, Kate, > Gedit, whatever, because there is no WYSIWYG editor currently

Re: Alternatives to Dreamweaver

2007-03-19 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:11:32 -0400 Mitch Wiedemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > Again, how would you build a large website of similar pages? > > This depends on the Web host. Some hosts offer scripting languages like > Perl, PHP, etc. > > In my case, I was able to make my switch from

Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why

2007-03-19 Thread Matthew K Poer
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 21:22 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Matthew K Poer wrote: > > > Kontact (Kmail/Kalendar/aKregator/K Address Book) > > I use korganizer, kmail, knode, kontact etc., to read mailing lists, > newsgroups. Basically whatever KDE throws at me. I am quite satisfied with > i

Re: audio recorder on etch?

2007-03-19 Thread Mark Grieveson
> Scheduling an audio recording with sound-recorder failed on my etch > box. Only about the first 3 hours were recorded, resulting in a file > just 2.0 GB large. (This was a recording of an opera production, so > it is difficult / impossible to predict suitable breaks in order to > record smaller c

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/07 23:02, Carl Fink wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 10:37:34PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 03/19/07 22:11, Carl Fink wrote: > >>> I just can't handle the absurdly-long release cycle

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 12:02:20AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > > Using. Not developing. > What difference does it make? > I run Etch on my home box (the one I'm typing on now) but for servers it > isn't always practical to use Testing, and that means you can almost never > use a currently-in-prod

Re: Browser identification to websites

2007-03-19 Thread Ken Heard
Greg Folkert wrote: On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 09:52 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: [snip] I would certainly like to see such and identification capability in Iceweasel. What are the possibilities? http://chrispederick.com/work/useragentswitcher/ That is the one you are looking for. Thanks for the tip

Re: vi, vim, and update-alternatives

2007-03-19 Thread Paul E Condon
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:45:31PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote: > > 'vi' is not in this list, so I can't say what vim.tiny should do when > > it is invoked via the update-alternatives symlink, vi, but I think it > > is not doing something that its maintainers intend. Is this a bug

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 10:37:34PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/19/07 22:11, Carl Fink wrote: > > I just can't handle the absurdly-long release cycle any more. > > Sid? Using. Not developing. I run Etch on my home box (the one I'm typin

Re: web browser choices

2007-03-19 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
On 3/19/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/07 18:20, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: [snip] > > By the way, you can use Swiftfox. It is an optimized build of Firefox > with machine-specific optimizations, aggressive optimization

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/07 22:11, Carl Fink wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 07:21:31PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > >> And for the people who actually want to use Linux, they will >> eventually move from Ubuntu to Debian ... > > I've been using Debian since slin

Re: audio recorder on etch?

2007-03-19 Thread David E. Fox
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:34:04 +0100 Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this for streaming audio or for recording from the audio-in of the > sound card? Both, although streaming to mplayer's internal dumpstream format uses a lot less disk space for the internal format. Of course, y

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 07:21:31PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > And for the people who actually want to use Linux, they will > eventually move from Ubuntu to Debian ... I've been using Debian since slink, and I'm ready to move to Ubuntu. I just can't handle the absurdly-long release cycle any

Re: Re (3): relaying POP3

2007-03-19 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: > The pop3 server is not the same thing as the smtp server. Shouldn't we be > telneting to 'servername pop'? If they are using Microsoft for POP they'll be using it for SMTP. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: how to reconfigure X after video card change [SOLVED]

2007-03-19 Thread Default User
On Sun, 2007-03-18 at 21:19 -0500, Default User wrote: > Running i586 Debian stable, I just took out an ATI Rage video card (pci) > and replaced it with a no name SiS (agp) video card. Now the system > starts up, but won't load GDM, instead terminating with an error message > and asking if I want t

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread David E. Fox
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:51:35 -0400 Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > something stable that won't break every six months (Of course I can > just not dist-upgrade, but then I wouldn't get ANY package upgrades). Can you not do something much like to 'aptitude update && aptitude upgrade" on

Re: Postgresql on Debian

2007-03-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/07 21:58, Iuri Sampaio wrote: > Hi, > > > > Is there any script to uninstall postgresql-8.2.3 on debian? How did you install it? > In fact, > > how do I uninstall anything that I installed from source? Most of the > programs don?t have

Re: OT: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/07 21:57, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 21:12 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 03/19/07 18:56, Greg Folkert wrote: >> [snip] >>> Okay then, what is more bracing: >>> >>> -40 degrees Celsius >>> -40 degrees Fahrenhe

Re: Postgresql on Debian

2007-03-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 11:58:56PM -0300, Iuri Sampaio wrote: > > Is there any script to uninstall postgresql-8.2.3 on debian? > > In fact, > > how do I uninstall anything that I installed from source? Most of the > programs don?t have a UNINSTALL file or something like UMakefile to execute > a

Postgresql on Debian

2007-03-19 Thread Iuri Sampaio
Hi, Is there any script to uninstall postgresql-8.2.3 on debian? In fact, how do I uninstall anything that I installed from source? Most of the programs don’t have a UNINSTALL file or something like UMakefile to execute and erase itself. Regards, iuri -- No virus found in this outgoi

Re: OT: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-19 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 21:12 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/19/07 18:56, Greg Folkert wrote: > [snip] > > > > Okay then, what is more bracing: > > > > -40 degrees Celsius > > -40 degrees Fahrenheit > > > > Come on... I am waiting! > > Aqua Velva!!! I am more of a "Brut 33" ki

Re: Browser identification to websites

2007-03-19 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 09:52 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: [snip] > > I would certainly like to see such and identification capability in > Iceweasel. What are the possibilities? http://chrispederick.com/work/useragentswitcher/ That is the one you are looking for. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell'

Browser identification to websites

2007-03-19 Thread Ken Heard
In the last post to the "middle clicking in iceweasel dialogs doesn't work" thread, dated 07-03-12 01:43 UTC +7, Joe Hart said: "I suppose I'll just have to live with it [different browsers' storing cookies in different places], or stop using more than one browser. The problem with that is, s

Re: web browser choices

2007-03-19 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:56:48 -0400 Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 08:40:06PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 08:05:07PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > > > I've been searching for browsers for a while, and I've found a few >

Re: host aliases

2007-03-19 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:58:57 +0100 Thomas Jollans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 19 March 2007 14:48, Celejar wrote: > > I don't, in general, know the IP address. I have a system on my LAN, > ^ > > if it's on your LAN, wh

Re: Re (3): relaying POP3

2007-03-19 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:35:42 +0200 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Peter E. writes: > > > My first guess would be that it is MS Windows based. If you tell > > > me how > > >to obtain the server identity from fetchmail, I will try. > > > >

Re: host aliases

2007-03-19 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:45:59 +0200 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't, in general, know the IP address. I have a system on my LAN, > > accessible on the internet via a dynamic DNS name. I want to refer to > > it by a short nickname. That's

Re: web browser choices

2007-03-19 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/19/07 18:20, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > [snip] >> >> By the way, you can use Swiftfox. It is an optimized build of Firefox >> with machine-specific optimizations, aggressive optimization flags and >> some f

Re: OT: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/07 18:56, Greg Folkert wrote: [snip] > > Okay then, what is more bracing: > > -40 degrees Celsius > -40 degrees Fahrenheit > > Come on... I am waiting! Aqua Velva!!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (

Re: OT: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/07 17:52, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:33:32AM -0500, Kent West wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Heh, Texans (and for that matter, most of the desert southwest and >>> California) crack me up in thinking that they ge

Re: web browser choices

2007-03-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/07 18:20, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: [snip] > > By the way, you can use Swiftfox. It is an optimized build of Firefox > with machine-specific optimizations, aggressive optimization flags and > some features (like Pango) disabled to i

Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why

2007-03-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/07 18:56, Micha Feigin wrote: [snip] > > I don't like kmail as it takes the microsoft approach and won't play nicely > with other programs touching it's mail directories unless you setup a local > imap server and access everything over imap (

Re: Monitor filesystem changes

2007-03-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 05:51:19PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mar 19, 4:00 pm, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 03/19/07 11:11, Alex Lorca wrote: > > > I have a debian etch 2.6.17 an i need to monitor the changes > > > (create/modify/delete) in a directory that is shared betw

Re: vi, vim, and update-alternatives

2007-03-19 Thread Joey Hess
Paul E Condon wrote: > 'vi' is not in this list, so I can't say what vim.tiny should do when > it is invoked via the update-alternatives symlink, vi, but I think it > is not doing something that its maintainers intend. Is this a bug? Or > is it working in some mode that is useful, but only to those

Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why

2007-03-19 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Matthew K Poer wrote: > Kontact (Kmail/Kalendar/aKregator/K Address Book) I use korganizer, kmail, knode, kontact etc., to read mailing lists, newsgroups. Basically whatever KDE throws at me. I am quite satisfied with it. However not all your friends/colleagues might use KDE or Linux. So if you w

Re: Can't boot linux with GRUB

2007-03-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:05:05PM -0600, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > Greetings; > > After many starts and stops and restarts I got Deb > installed via the web. GRUB was installed, did a > shutdown/restart and I can't boot to Deb/linux. It > spews out all sorts of messages too fast for me to > read t

module-assistant problem with kernel source

2007-03-19 Thread Gokee2
Hello all, I am trying to use m-a to install ndiswrapper. I am using debian stable with backports for module-assistant,build-essential,xorg,kde. m-a prepare says everything is great and I made sure its getting the linux-headers from backports. My kernel is stock from backports 2.6.18-4-k7

module-assistant problem with kernel source

2007-03-19 Thread adsarebad
Hello all, I am trying to use m-a to install ndiswrapper. I am using debian stable with backports for module-assistant,build-essential,xorg,kde. m-a prepare says everything is great and I made sure its getting the linux-headers from backports. My kernel is stock from backports 2.6.18-4-k7 #1 S

Re: How to make Konqueror open shell scripts in an editor instead of running them

2007-03-19 Thread alphadeltapapa
On Mar 19, 4:20 am, Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adam Porter wrote: > > A few minutes of googling found this very useful tip. If you want Konqueror > > to open shell scripts in an editor instead of running them (usually in the > > background, which isn't usually very useful), just add the

Re: Monitor filesystem changes

2007-03-19 Thread alphadeltapapa
On Mar 19, 4:00 pm, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 03/19/07 11:11, Alex Lorca wrote: > > I have a debian etch 2.6.17 an i need to monitor the changes > > (create/modify/delete) in a directory that is shared between various users. > > I have used the interface inotify but it doesn`t sho

Re: OT: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 08:37:33PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 20:29 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 07:56:39PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 19:27 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > > > Okay then, what is more bra

Re: web browser choices

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 08:40:06PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 08:05:07PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > I've been searching for browsers for a while, and I've found a few > > that I like: > > > > [..kazhakase..links2..galeon..chimera2..] > > > > > Chim

Re: web browser choices

2007-03-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 08:05:07PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > I've been searching for browsers for a while, and I've found a few > that I like: > > kazehakase; Not very well featured, but it's small and quick if you > just need a "down to the bones" browser. > > links2; An amazing browser

Re: OT: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-19 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 20:29 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 07:56:39PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 19:27 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > > > > Now _minus_ 83, now that's bracing! The high arctic is a desert too. > > > > > > Beards: th

Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why

2007-03-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 05:49:44PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Matthew K Poer writes: > > are there others? > > Emacs. Yeah, but it lacks a decent text editor. * ducks * Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Descri

Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why

2007-03-19 Thread Matthew K Poer
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 20:26 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:25:22 -0400 > > Personally, for PIM, I use my Palm. Even if you don't have a palm, you > could use one of the palm syncers, like gnome-pilot and never sync... > > Before that, I used Remind or a postgresql/

Re: OT: Politics and other non-Debian ramblings

2007-03-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:04:46PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:56:49 -0500, Curt wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied: > > > > and then Germany declared war on us. > > > > Yep. The only treaty that Hitler didn't break. One is l

Re: Debian's progress inspite of events (was Re: Dunk-Tank and the DD strike)

2007-03-19 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 21:06 -0300, D G Teed wrote: > Win XP installer prompts "F6 to add hardware drivers" or some such. > It makes the opportunity known. It isn't impossible for the Debian > installer to do something to introduce the possibility as I mentioned > before. Debian has expert modes,

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 08:02:55PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:24:23 -0400, Roberto wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Now, if any coalition troops have committed crimes in violation of the > > Geneva conventions, then yes they need to prosecuted. > > ..here

Re: OT: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 07:56:39PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 19:27 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > > Now _minus_ 83, now that's bracing! The high arctic is a desert too. > > > > Beards: them that can, grow 'em; them that can't... live in Texas? :) > > > > BLT:

Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why

2007-03-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:25:22 -0400 > Matthew K Poer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I need an email client. I need a calender/task scheduling program. I > > know of these combo, "PIM" applications: > > IceApe > > IceDove w/ (Sunbird?) calender extension > > Evolution > > Kontact (Kmail/Kalend

Re: web browser choices

2007-03-19 Thread Matthew K Poer
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 18:35 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > I just want to make sure I'm not mising anything when I'm choosing a web > browser. I don't use a desktop environment as such, although I'm trying > out xfce4 instead of icewm. > > I want an Xwindow based web browser that lets me acc

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:04:28PM -0300, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > > I think that non-free software go to restricted and to multiverse, > > while main and universe are pure. I believe main and restricted are > > enabled by default, and that is why you ended up with unrar. > > > Humm

Re: howto increase delays in password prompt

2007-03-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 11:09:55AM -0400, Mutsuura Associates, Inc. wrote: > > Can anyone tell me how to increase the delay properly? > This is just a wild guess, have you looked at the options in the files in /etc/pam.d? Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~rob

Re: Debian's progress inspite of events (was Re: Dunk-Tank and the DD strike)

2007-03-19 Thread D G Teed
On 3/19/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You gave him Sarge, right? Have him do a straight install of WindowsXP with no other CD. Watch him crash and burn as well. Or if he "excuses" the additional drivers disk(s) required to install WindowsXP then he is not at all "unbiased". Win

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
I think that non-free software go to restricted and to multiverse, while main and universe are pure. I believe main and restricted are enabled by default, and that is why you ended up with unrar. Humm, thinking again, Ubuntu keeps restricted to a bare minimum, and unrar would certainly go to

Re: web browser choices

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:35:32PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > I just want to make sure I'm not mising anything when I'm choosing a web > browser. I don't use a desktop environment as such, although I'm trying > out xfce4 instead of icewm. > > I want an Xwindow based web browser that lets

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
And I'm a GNU Purist, besides my wireless drivers (Which are in contrib) I have no non-free packages installed on my system. Ubuntu doesn't offer any differentiations between non-free packages and free packages in their repositories, which upset me when I run my weekly "vrms" to find that the pr

Re: ddclient cron job

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 10:31:07PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:37:29 -0400 > Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm trying to get ddclient to run as a cronjob [...] > > > > Just invoke ddclient from a script in one of the directories mentioned > in /etc/cront

Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why

2007-03-19 Thread Micha Feigin
I think that the kde solution is the most mature at the moment and leaner than evolution although it drags along a whole host of libraries when you fire it up (so does evolution though) I don't like kmail as it takes the microsoft approach and won't play nicely with other programs touching it's ma

Re: OT: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-19 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 19:27 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:52:09PM -0400, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:33:32AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > > Paul Johnson wrote: > > > >> True. So very true. The many long months of uninterrupted > > > pr

Re: Can't boot linux with GRUB

2007-03-19 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
After many starts and stops and restarts I got Deb installed via the web. GRUB was installed, did a shutdown/restart and I can't boot to Deb/linux. It spews out all sorts of messages too fast for me to read them and then locks the system. Be more clear. The message appear before or after the ke

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 08:37:27PM -0300, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > >And for the people who actually want to use Linux, they will > >eventually move from Ubuntu to Debian. > > I don't want to start a flamewar, but I don't why Debian is superior to > Ubuntu for a home user. > I've fou

Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why

2007-03-19 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
You mean GNUS? I love Emacs, but I eventually gave up on Gnus. I just couldn't grok it. I'm on Sylpheed now. Haven't tried Claws. I don't use any calendar. On 3/19/07, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Matthew K Poer writes: > are there others? Emacs. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Can't boot linux with GRUB

2007-03-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:05:05PM -0600, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > > After many starts and stops and restarts I got Deb > installed via the web. GRUB was installed, did a > shutdown/restart and I can't boot to Deb/linux. It > spews out all sorts of messages too fast for me to > read them and then

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
And for the people who actually want to use Linux, they will eventually move from Ubuntu to Debian. I don't want to start a flamewar, but I don't why Debian is superior to Ubuntu for a home user. -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free.

Re: OT: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:52:09PM -0400, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:33:32AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> True. So very true. The many long months of uninterrupted > > precipitation-less heat is the one thing I dislike about living in the > >

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 12:44:38PM -0400, H.S. wrote: > > Just saw this in the following piece: > http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/murdockint.html > > "Ubuntu has certainly raised the bar. They have had a tremendous impact > on the number of people worldwide using Debian (I do consider Ubuntu to >

Re: web browser choices

2007-03-19 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
So right now I use iceape. Its big and clunky I suppose, but mostly I don't like all the security bugs that keep being found in the gekko-based browsers (per the debian BTS). Well, I was trying to find a lightweight browser too. Dillo is beautifully fast, but 1-) Lack some features as you ment

Re: audio recorder on etch?

2007-03-19 Thread cga2000
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 04:54:03AM EST, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Scheduling an audio recording with sound-recorder failed on my etch box. > Only about the first 3 hours were recorded, resulting in a file just 2.0 > GB large. (This was a recording of an opera production, so it is > difficult / i

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:09:48PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..maybe, define "just full of all sorts of conspiracy theories", I don't > watch TV, I pick my news off the web, where I try to balance Muslim, > Crusader, Commie, Jew, Asian, LatinAmerican and Norwegian news > against what I learn

Can't boot linux with GRUB

2007-03-19 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
Greetings; After many starts and stops and restarts I got Deb installed via the web. GRUB was installed, did a shutdown/restart and I can't boot to Deb/linux. It spews out all sorts of messages too fast for me to read them and then locks the system. I have to hit RESET to restart it. I can boot

Re: Using gdb on a debian system.

2007-03-19 Thread cga2000
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 03:58:15AM EST, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Sun, 2007-03-18 at 23:53 -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > I have tried to follow the recommendations I found in various docs, > > like rebuilding the package via an "apt-get source package" followed > > by a "dpkg -i package_name" to no ef

Re: web browser choices

2007-03-19 Thread Javier Vasquez
On 3/19/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] Is there another well-featured web-browser that is _not_ integrated into a desktop environment? Thanks, Doug. Dillo is frozen right now (http://www.dillo.org), so I don't know if it'll accomplish its goals any time soon, and if

Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why

2007-03-19 Thread John Hasler
Matthew K Poer writes: > are there others? Emacs. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 05:48:35PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..Adolf Hitler has moral standing on his Führerbefehl because he put > 400,000 men on the job, to protect Norway's 3.5 Million, that's one > per 8.5 norwegian. > Adolf Hitler has moral standing? How can someone get so divorced fr

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 05:18:40PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:47:49 -0700, Paul wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in Article > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to > > gmane.linux.debian.user: > > > > > I don't suppose you have ever served

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 05:47:49AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in Article > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to > gmane.linux.debian.user: > > > I don't suppose you have ever served in the U.S. military, have you? > > There is not one military person currently serving in Iraq w

Re: OT: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:33:32AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > >Heh, Texans (and for that matter, most of the desert southwest and > >California) crack me up in thinking that they get weather more than 30 days > >out of any given year... > > Hmm. When I lived in Texas I am pr

Re: Debian's progress inspite of events (was Re: Dunk-Tank and the DD strike)

2007-03-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 07:50:51AM -0300, D G Teed wrote: > > I spent all of last summer trying to educate the managers. I've given > up. They won't read or listen. They have heard that Linux users tend to > be emotional fans of their particular distro and can present any > information to back

Re: Sneakernet .deb packages by usb thumb?

2007-03-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:32:22PM -0400, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 03:41:28PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > > Isn't there a package for debian that lets you make custom CDs by > > choosing what packages you want and it includes the depends that > > aptitude wil

Re: Using gdb on a debian system.

2007-03-19 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 11:07:04PM EST, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 11:53:51PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > Could somebody advise on using gdb on a debian system? > > > > Currently whenever I need to take an insider look at what the code is > > really doing, I try to locate th

[Solved] Re: make/g++ within emacs causes wierd unicode control characters

2007-03-19 Thread H.S.
H.S. wrote: Micha Feigin wrote: I am trying to compile from within emacs (using M-x compile which calls make -k) In the output I get wierd characters (I think unicode characters): main.cc: In function ג€˜int main(int, char**)ג€™: main.cc:16: error: no matching function for call to ג€˜Laplace

web browser choices

2007-03-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
I just want to make sure I'm not mising anything when I'm choosing a web browser. I don't use a desktop environment as such, although I'm trying out xfce4 instead of icewm. I want an Xwindow based web browser that lets me access normal web sites. I find I need https, frames, and javascript. It

Re: Sneakernet .deb packages by usb thumb?

2007-03-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 03:41:28PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > Isn't there a package for debian that lets you make custom CDs by > choosing what packages you want and it includes the depends that > aptitude will look for? I wonder if its available on any of the live > CDs, e.g. grml. T

Re: make/g++ within emacs causes wierd unicode control characters

2007-03-19 Thread H.S.
Micha Feigin wrote: I am trying to compile from within emacs (using M-x compile which calls make -k) In the output I get wierd characters (I think unicode characters): main.cc: In function ג€˜int main(int, char**)ג€™: main.cc:16: error: no matching function for call to ג€˜LaplaceMat::LaplaceMa

Re: ddclient cron job

2007-03-19 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:37:29 -0400 Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to get ddclient to run as a cronjob, but before I do it I > was wondering if it is not safe to do this. > > I normally run under a user account (And not root), and ddclient can't > be run by anyone but the o

Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why

2007-03-19 Thread Matthew K Poer
I need an email client. I need a calender/task scheduling program. I know of these combo, "PIM" applications: IceApe IceDove w/ (Sunbird?) calender extension Evolution Kontact (Kmail/Kalendar/aKregator/K Address Book) Sylpheed w/ iCal plug-in are there others? I am extremely unorganized and need

Re: Etch Installer RC1 and RC2 hang "Retrieving file 82 of 82"

2007-03-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 03:11:45PM -0700, Erik Cummings wrote: > Sorry if this is the wrong place...I have SOME indication that I > should be posting this to debian-testing, but I've read a couple > conflicting posts. > > Trying to install Debian Etch with Installer RC1 or RC2 daily builds > (last

RE: Etch Installer RC1 and RC2 hang "Retrieving file 82 of 82"

2007-03-19 Thread Erik Cummings
> -Original Message- > From: Erik Cummings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 3:12 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Etch Installer RC1 and RC2 hang "Retrieving file 82 of 82" > > Sorry if this is the wrong place...I have SOME indication that I should b

Re: Alternatives to Dreamweaver (was: Re: Wine)

2007-03-19 Thread Matthew K Poer
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 18:17 -0300, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > I'll ask him. > > On 3/19/07, Matthew K Poer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 13:22 -0400, Mitch Wiedemann wrote: > > Has anyone ever tried Amaya from the W3c? > >

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/07 16:16, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: [snip] > > And why are you arguing whether Debian is Ubuntu anyway? We're not. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF/wr1S9HxQb37XmcRAp9hAJ41e51YoqZoox+qwJMXOf

Etch Installer RC1 and RC2 hang "Retrieving file 82 of 82"

2007-03-19 Thread Erik Cummings
Sorry if this is the wrong place...I have SOME indication that I should be posting this to debian-testing, but I've read a couple conflicting posts. Trying to install Debian Etch with Installer RC1 or RC2 daily builds (last Wed and today!) hangs after retrieving files. Using netinst iso... I'v

Re: rcs file

2007-03-19 Thread Ken Irving
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 04:57:59PM -0400, Tony Heal wrote: > I am trying to initialize and update an rcs file manually. Here is what I am > trying to do. > > Debian woody > rcs v 5.7-13 > TWiki - 24 Nov 2001 > > I am using the xconf plugin to parse an xconf file. This works fine. > > I want to

ddclient cron job

2007-03-19 Thread Michael Pobega
I'm trying to get ddclient to run as a cronjob, but before I do it I was wondering if it is not safe to do this. I normally run under a user account (And not root), and ddclient can't be run by anyone but the owner (It won't let you run it, even if you have group access; "/etc/ddclient.conf must o

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