Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-04 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:50:17 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:19:02PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > 70MB is *huge* amount of data to install *only* to have a gui. IMHO > > firestarter is only useful if you already have X installed, though > > this is a bad idea on

Re: thunderbird: how to backup mailbox and restore quickly

2007-03-04 Thread Cameron L. Spitzer
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Yuwen Dai wrote: >[I wrote] >> $ formail -s < mboxfile | procmail recipefile >> >> recipefile looks like this: >> >> :0: >> * ^Received: .* myserver.example.net ;.* Dec 2006 >> /home/me/December > I created a similiar rc file like this: > >:0: > * ^Received:

Re: vim like completion in bash?

2007-03-04 Thread Steve Lamb
cga2000 wrote: > .. and as everybody will no doubt have noticed, ss/tt is one keystroke > less than ss/*t* (not to mention the fact that the '*' is shifted and a > little harder to reach). Ok, and now to point out the other glaringly obvious part of this thread. Care to share how you got bash

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Steve Lamb
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 07:46:30PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: [ snip some stats ] >> Sure looks like socialized medicine is sucking there, huh? > So what? The US also has the highest levels of obesity in the world. I > *highly doubt* that even if the US happened to im

Re: relaying POP3

2007-03-04 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 10:14:06 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Debian Users, > > My favourite MUA has an implementation of POP3 > which is not compatible with the POP3 of my ISP. > > Until I can fix POP3 in the MUA, I want my > home Debian router machine to fetch messages > from the ISP and d

Re: vim like completion in bash?

2007-03-04 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 06:54:45PM EST, Steve Lamb wrote: > Wayne Topa wrote: > > zhengquan zhang([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > >> Hello: > >> I can :e *doc* in vim, pressing tab and it can help me find the document I > >> need, > >> but in bash if I use vi *doc* and press tab, not

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-04 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070304 22:42]: > > It *is* religion. Dear People! Kindly edit out my name and address the next time you quote the message in question. The way the message is being quoted makes it appear that I am promoting the degaussing of CDs. But in fact, I several roun

Re: [gdm-list] xdm doesn't run thru the gdm??

2007-03-04 Thread Brian Cameron
abdelkader belahcene wrote: Refer to section 5.2.3 of the docs for information about configuring XDMCP: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gdm/docs/2.16/configuration.html Note Enable=false by default, so you need to turn it on if you want it to work. You can also configure by running gdmsetup as

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/04/07 22:16, Marc Shapiro wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 07:04:13PM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: >> >> >>> If we do go socialistic this nation will have abandoned what made it >>> great. I hope you do notice th

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/04/07 21:59, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 07:46:30PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: >> On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 14:34 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >>> Or a Brit needing an operation for which there is a very long >>> waiting list be

Re: Bio-Based Fuels

2007-03-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/04/07 17:30, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:49:53 -0500, Greg wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 14:56 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:38:49PM -0500, Greg Folkert

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/04/07 21:07, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:28:57 -0600, Ron wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> On 03/01/07 13:31, Andrei Popescu wrote: >>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:11:04 -0600 >>> "Russell L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-03-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/04/07 20:25, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:10:35 -0600, Ron wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/25/07 16:30, Steve Lamb wrote: >>> Michael Pobega wrote: E

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Marc Shapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 07:04:13PM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: If we do go socialistic this nation will have abandoned what made it great. I hope you do notice that the further we move toward socialism the more our country has declined in both moral fiber and in

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 07:46:30PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 14:34 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > Or a Brit needing an operation for which there is a very long > > waiting list because of NHS inefficiencies? > > Life Expectancy at birth (years): > U.S. E.

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Michael M.
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 14:34 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Or a Brit needing an operation for which there is a very long > waiting list because of NHS inefficiencies? Life Expectancy at birth (years): U.S. E.U. U.K. Canada Male:75.0275.1076.0976.86 Female: 80

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Freddy Freeloader
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 07:04:13PM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: If we do go socialistic this nation will have abandoned what made it great. I hope you do notice that the further we move toward socialism the more our country has declined in both moral fiber and in

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 10:09:43PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Being rom the rest of the world, I have been losing respect for the > United States because it fails to ensure a minimum standard of living > for its people, and sends out armies to interfere in how the rest of the > world r

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread hendrik
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 07:04:13PM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > If we do go socialistic this nation will have abandoned what made it > great. I hope you do notice that the further we move toward socialism > the more our country has declined in both moral fiber and in respect by > the rest of

separating x client from x server (was: Firestarter VS Shorewall)

2007-03-04 Thread hendrik
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 02:51:48AM +0100, Andreas Duffner wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >You could run X on another system. People tend to forget that X is a > >networked protocol. > > mmm. I am not sure we are talking about the same thing. > If yes.. then I'd like to learn how to do it th

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 16:43 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:08:40PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 07:44:06PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > Totalitarianism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive, but neithe

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:28:57 -0600, Ron wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/01/07 13:31, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:11:04 -0600 > > "Russell L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL P

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Freddy Freeloader
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 09:55 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > > > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> Totalitarianism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive, but neither is > > any > >> other economic and political model combination. Correlation without > > causation. > > > > They're no

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-04 Thread John Hasler
Andreas writes: > Do I understand you right, that I do not have to download these X-files, > if I intend to export the display to another computer ? You need some libraries but no X-server. Firestarter 1.0.3-1.3 dependencies: libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.2), libaudiofile0 (>=

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-03-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:10:35 -0600, Ron wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/25/07 16:30, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Michael Pobega wrote: > >> Everyone has their own belief, and let it be that way. > > > > I'd rather not. Personally

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 02:51:48AM +0100, Andreas Duffner wrote: > > Do I understand you right, that I do not have to > download these X-files, if I intend to export the display > to another computer ? > > That would be really nice. > You need the xbase-clients package at a very minimum. You ss

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:08:02AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 17:27:28 -0500 > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:06:45AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:36:08 -0500 > > > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-04 Thread Andreas Duffner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could run X on another system. People tend to forget that X is a networked protocol. mmm. I am not sure we are talking about the same thing. If yes.. then I'd like to learn how to do it the other way. But to be sure I will tell how I see it. If you still think oth

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread s. keeling
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Steve Lamb wrote: > > > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> Totalitarianism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive, but neither is > > any > >> other economic and political model combination. Correlation without > > causation. > > > > They're not mutually exclusive

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-04 Thread hendrik
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:19:02PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > 70MB is *huge* amount of data to install *only* to have a gui. IMHO > firestarter is only useful if you already have X installed, though this > is a bad idea on a server. You could run X on another system. People tend to forget

Re: [SOLVED] linux-image-2.6-486 vs. linux-image -2.6-

2007-03-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:40:06AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > I.ve updated > http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian?highlight=%28USB%29 > to reflect the fact that you can install and run a Debian Stock Kernel > from USB disk but as of this date you must change the initrd image >

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:09:23PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 01:47:15PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > just to put it out there, another way to look at that stat: > > > > assuming 2 trips per work day for commuting, that is 1,327,822,650 > > work roun

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-04 Thread Andreas Duffner
Andrei Popescu wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: I use ssh with X11 forwarding to manage the firewall. With firestarter? How? [snip X11 forwarding stuff] If *that* isn't shooting a fly with a canon, than I don't know what is. [snip rant against console users] You *really* do not read what othe

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:05:25PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:14:59 -0800 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You can claim a duck is really a chicken, but that doesn't stop that > > it's really a duck. > > Wow, you win! I can not possibly beat *this* argu

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:08:40PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 07:44:06PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Totalitarianism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive, but neither is > > any > > > other economic and political model combination. Corr

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:22:55 -0600, Cybe wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:19:03PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >I heard the U

Re: initramfs-tools fixed (maybe) --- how to resume install?

2007-03-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 08:58:09AM -0600, Charles Blair wrote: >I am trying to install debian (testing) on a machine that > has Windows XP. I downloaded and booted the first .iso image > (weekly build as of Feb 28). Partitoning and other steps > seem to have worked properly. > > When I s

OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-04 Thread Deboo ^
Hello, I have some Sysadmin interviews coming up soon, so I thought the best place to ask for some sample Linux questions would be this mailing list. Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about Debian? May be with short answers but that's not necessary. If I can ge

MAKEDEV Question

2007-03-04 Thread Thomas H. George
My new box has a cdrw drive and a dvdrw drive but there are no entries for these devices in /dev. My old box has similar devices and there are entries for them in /dev and they are both soft links to scd0. There are also entries for hdc and hdd which is reasonable as these devices are master

Re: vim like completion in bash?

2007-03-04 Thread Steve Lamb
Wayne Topa wrote: > zhengquan zhang([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: >> Hello: >> I can :e *doc* in vim, pressing tab and it can help me find the document I >> need, >> but in bash if I use vi *doc* and press tab, nothing would happen, it can >> not find the file I want to edit >> Is th

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:22:55 -0600, Cybe wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:19:03PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >I heard the US switched to the metric system some time ago, and > >

Re: update-initramfs question

2007-03-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 04:29:24PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I run this: > > > >~Sun Mar 04-13:57:19SDA6# update-initramfs -u > > > >and I get: > > > >/boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-4-486 does not exist. Cannot update. > > > >That happens to be true. (Surprise!)

Re: vim like completion in bash?

2007-03-04 Thread Wayne Topa
zhengquan zhang([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Hello: > I can :e *doc* in vim, pressing tab and it can help me find the document I > need, > but in bash if I use vi *doc* and press tab, nothing would happen, it can > not find the file I want to edit > Is there any switches to make i

Re: Bio-Based Fuels

2007-03-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:49:53 -0500, Greg wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 14:56 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:38:49PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 16:22 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Bio-fuels *are* a

pdsmi+ linux

2007-03-04 Thread impek
Hello i finally success to install debian with the "test/etch" version. But the networks card cause problem : e1000_clean_tx_irq: Detected Tx Unit Hang The network card keep disconnecting. I see a lot of people have that problem : http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=e1000_clean_tx_irq%3A+Detect

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-04 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 17:27:28 -0500 "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:06:45AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:36:08 -0500 > > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hence, with a discincentive for the big airlines

No modules.dep

2007-03-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, In booting one kernel version I get a string of messages flashing by at boot in the very beginning: FATAL: modprobe: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.20-ck1/modules.dep That message is from modprobe in the initrd.img that is loaded first. And true enough: examining the initrd.img: there i

Re: New video card-what to do ?

2007-03-04 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 23:38 +0100, Niels Rasmussen wrote: > Hi list > > My system is debian testing (etch) AMD64x2 > > I have bought a new video card Nvidia 6200 TC 64 bit 256MB DDR2, which should > be better than my ATI Radeon X700se, according to several forums, for 3D > composite rendering. >

Re: Etch

2007-03-04 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 10:23:05PM +0100, pinniped wrote: > > Etch is almost 2 years old! > > SATA support began in the 2.5 kernels and some modules were backported to > 2.4. There have been many huge changes in the 2.6 kernel to date, so Etch > should be the one to use. Kernels 2.6.16 to 2.6.1

Re: Asterisk and MP3 files

2007-03-04 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 22:08 +, Alan Chandler wrote: > Asterisk should have mp3 files for playing music on hold. > > The debian distribution doesn't appear to have these in it. Is there > another package which does hold them? From looking at the package asterisk-sounds-main, yes these files

New video card-what to do ?

2007-03-04 Thread Niels Rasmussen
Hi list My system is debian testing (etch) AMD64x2 I have bought a new video card Nvidia 6200 TC 64 bit 256MB DDR2, which should be better than my ATI Radeon X700se, according to several forums, for 3D composite rendering. Now after what I've read about this, on this list, it should be sufficien

Re: update-initramfs question

2007-03-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I run this: ~Sun Mar 04-13:57:19SDA6# update-initramfs -u and I get: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-4-486 does not exist. Cannot update. That happens to be true. (Surprise!) But how does he know that initrd.img-2.6.18-4-486 is the 'newest kernel' as the man-page has it?

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:06:45AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:36:08 -0500 > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hence, with a discincentive for the big airlines to improve we are > > dealing with declining levels of service (remember when they actually >

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 09:55:59 -0800 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > > > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> Totalitarianism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive, but > >> neither is > > any > >> other economic and political model combination. Correlation > >> without > > cau

Asterisk and MP3 files

2007-03-04 Thread Alan Chandler
Asterisk should have mp3 files for playing music on hold. The debian distribution doesn't appear to have these in it. Is there another package which does hold them? -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-04 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:36:08 -0500 "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hence, with a discincentive for the big airlines to improve we are > dealing with declining levels of service (remember when they actually > used to serve meals on 4+ hour long flights) and increasing In Europe me

Re: Help w/failed Sarge install - Dell 8400+SATA

2007-03-04 Thread Peter Farley
--- "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 12:30:23PM -0800, Peter > Farley wrote: > > > > "Bleeding edge technology"?!?! I bought the Dell > > 8400 as-is and used (from the Dell bargain area) > > over two years ago. "Bleeding edge" it ain't. > > > As Andrew

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-04 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 17:09:10 +0100 Andreas Duffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > I use ssh with X11 forwarding to manage the firewall. > >>> With firestarter? How? > > > > [snip X11 forwarding stuff] > > > > If *that* isn't shooting a fly with a canon, than I don't kn

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 08:57:31PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..uhuh. The Sissy Boy Traitor stole one mans slot, and then ran AWOL. > A military man with enough balls to get the job done, and enough > brains to survive it well enough to be ready for the next mission, > will have a cascading

what kernel?

2007-03-04 Thread pinniped
If you have 2.6 and the Alsa drivers, it all works well - just make sure you edit settings with the 'alsamixer'. You'll probably find that everything is working but your headphone channel is muted. With OSS I have no idea what setting to change (or if this is even possible). It is also possi

Etch

2007-03-04 Thread pinniped
Etch is almost 2 years old! SATA support began in the 2.5 kernels and some modules were backported to 2.4. There have been many huge changes in the 2.6 kernel to date, so Etch should be the one to use. Kernels 2.6.16 to 2.6.18 seem fine, 2.6.19 is buggy, never tried .20 - .21 is in the works.

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-03-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:32:41 +1300, Chris wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 03:35:57PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > the US is arguably one of the most prosperous nations in the world. > > I think that it is right for us to render humanitarian aid to other > >

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > We'll see if you keep saying that next time you need an operation not > covered by private health insurance. Why wait? I'll say it right now. The joy of private health coverage is that they, the individuals who run the corporation, are perfectly free to offer coverage o

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:48:08AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 10:00:02AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:39:58AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > By the way, isn't air travel an example of fairly efficient (and > > > gover

lpr

2007-03-04 Thread pinniped
1. Are you really using 'lpr' or are you using the 'cupsys-bsd' pretender and accidentally filtering things through cups? 2. Send directly to printer to see what happens: cat mydocument > /dev/lp (or whatever the parallel device is) 3. Check BIOS and ensure that you have a suitable parallel po

Re: xdm doesn't run thru the gdm??

2007-03-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 12:52:25PM +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote: > Hi, > The following doesn't exit at all on previous version, on sarge > (debian) I used last year, but it on the current version etch > (debian). > > the problem is: > I have a serveur running the standard etch (debian ) with

Re: Help w/failed Sarge install - Dell 8400+SATA

2007-03-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 12:30:23PM -0800, Peter Farley wrote: > > "Bleeding edge technology"?!?! I bought the Dell 8400 > as-is and used (from the Dell bargain area) over two > years ago. "Bleeding edge" it ain't. > As Andrew pointed out, Etch is going to release anytime now and has been in fre

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 09:55:59AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > > > They're not mutually exclusive because they are the same. Personal > > liberty is economic liberty! You can't have one without the other. Any > > political movement which curtails economic liberty is dir

Re: IMAP Mail server question

2007-03-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 01:25:13AM +, Hans du Plooy wrote: > > Haven't done Dovecot on Debian (do it all the time on RHEL tho). For > Courier, just apt-get install courier-imap (I think that's the package > name). There's nothing to configure unless you want to use virtual > users/domains an

Re: gigabit nic

2007-03-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:59:03PM +, Hans du Plooy wrote: > > Well, I wouldn't be surprised if there are already Intel branded gigabit > PCI NICs that have the Marvel Yukon chipset on. Like the "Intel" 6-port > SATA Raid cards that are really LSI 150-6 cards - they didn't even > badge-engine

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/04/07 13:36, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:36:10 -0600, Ron wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> On 02/28/07 12:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> On 27 Feb, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> [snip] >> >> And in the spring flood st

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/04/07 10:51, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:05:52 -0600, Ron wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> On 02/27/07 09:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:52:17PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: [snip] >> Dam

Re: Hard Drive hdb becomes hdf - Resolved

2007-03-04 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 04:21:18PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > I built a new computer with two hard drives and installed XP Home > Edition on the first drive. The second drive contains my Debian system > - kernel 2.6.17 and Testing. I intended to use disc 1 of a Sarge > installation set a

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/04/07 11:55, Paul Johnson wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Totalitarianism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive, but neither is >> any >>> other economic and political model combination. Correlation without >> causatio

Re: Help w/failed Sarge install - Dell 8400+SATA

2007-03-04 Thread Peter Farley
--- Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Farley wrote: > > --- "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> You really should be using Etch. > > > Well, some of us prefer not to live at the > > bleeding edge. > > Sometimes when you have bleeding edge technology > you ne

fujitsu siemens amilo l7320 sound, headphones

2007-03-04 Thread sfniks sfinks
Hi. Has anyone got headphones to work? sound comes, but no headphones. fujitsu:~# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge 00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge 00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN

update-initramfs question

2007-03-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, I run this: ~Sun Mar 04-13:57:19SDA6# update-initramfs -u and I get: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-4-486 does not exist. Cannot update. That happens to be true. (Surprise!) But how does he know that initrd.img-2.6.18-4-486 is the 'newest kernel' as the man-page has it? uname -r has: 2.6.20-

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> Totalitarianism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive, but neither is > any >> other economic and political model combination. Correlation without > causation. > > They're not mutually exclusive because they are the same. Personal > liberty is ec

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:21:17 -0500, Roberto wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:12:45AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:00:43 -0500, Roberto wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > W (whatever you think of him, he *does* have mora

Re: A very simple documentation framework

2007-03-04 Thread cga2000
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:16:53AM EST, ][ wrote: > On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 03:36:01 -0500, cga2000 wrote: > [..] > >> > >> AsciiDoc Markup Syntax Quick Summary > >> http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/asciidoc-syn/ascs01-AsciiDocMarkupSyntaxQuickSummary/ A bit OT .. but what is this xpt projec

Printing gibberish...

2007-03-04 Thread Nikhil Nair
Hi, Would really appreciate some help, here. I'm having trouble getting a printer working, and this really ought to be a snap, as no filtering/translation of any sort is needed. Parallel port; system: etch, amd64, 2.6 kernel (with udev), debootstrap installed. The printer in question is a

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:36:10 -0600, Ron wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/28/07 12:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On 27 Feb, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > >>> It's not stupid if you haven't been there. > >> I thought you were smarter

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Problem Installing 3.1r5 i386 (networking)

2007-03-04 Thread John Anthony Kazos Jr.
I've been using Debian for half a decade, but not within the past year or so and just got back to it recently. My current setup is an XP box with masquerading (ICS) and 3.1r5 installed on another box, configured with static IP. Works great. Now I'm trying to set up a dual-boot on the main box

Re: vim like completion in bash?

2007-03-04 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 12:21:51AM EST, zhengquan zhang wrote: >Hello: >I can :e *doc* in vim, pressing tab and it can help me find the document I >need, >but in bash if I use vi *doc* and press tab, nothing would happen, it can >not find the file I want to edit >Is there an

webcalendar with PHP5

2007-03-04 Thread Lukas Ruf
Dear all, using etch, I would like to make use of webcalendar on my Apache 2 webserver that runs smoothly with PHP5. webcalendar requires PHP4. Any suggestion on how to solve this issue? Thanks! wbr, Lukas -- Lukas Ruf | Ad Personam rbacs | Rest

Re: No text mode display after grub

2007-03-04 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:48:40 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:11:36PM +, J.A. de Vries wrote: > > Hi, > > > > My boss gave me a Dell Latitude D810 to use for work so I didn't have to > > use my privately owned Acer Ferrari 4000 anymore. First thing I did was > > i

Re: relaying POP3

2007-03-04 Thread Franck Joncourt
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 10:14:06AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Debian Users, > > My favourite MUA has an implementation of POP3 > which is not compatible with the POP3 of my ISP. > > Until I can fix POP3 in the MUA, I want my > home Debian router machine to fetch messages > from the IS

relaying POP3

2007-03-04 Thread peasthope
Debian Users, My favourite MUA has an implementation of POP3 which is not compatible with the POP3 of my ISP. Until I can fix POP3 in the MUA, I want my home Debian router machine to fetch messages from the ISP and deliver them by POP3 to my workstation. Currently fetchmail and exim get me

Sorry for the "read receipt" thing

2007-03-04 Thread Charles Blair
I did not mean to include a "read receipt" in my recent post. Apologies for cluttering the system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Hard Drive hdb becomes hdf !!!

2007-03-04 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 04:21:18PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > boot: rescue=/dev/hdf5 > > which stopped with > >"Warning: Unable to open and initial console > Kernel Panic: No init found. Try passing an init= option to the > kernel" > You have to add an init line into /boot/grub/

Re: Real and effective uid in setuid executable

2007-03-04 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 17:42 +0100, Sven Ekman wrote: > Hello, > > I have a setuid executable which is written in C. Is > there a system call with which I can get the uid of > the calling user if the executable is setuid root? > > If the executable is setuid to a non-root user, > getuid() and get

Re: OT: Here we go again.

2007-03-04 Thread s. keeling
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > s. keeling wrote: > > Retaliation is not initiation. You are entirely within your rights to > > defend yourself. You'd be a fool not to. > > In fact one could argue it is morally reprehensible not to. I agree, but we're certainly in the minority camp:

Is this a DoS attack?

2007-03-04 Thread Anthony Campbell
Earlier today my router showed long periods of flickering, as if data were coming in or going out. I am the only user. Log files do not show anything wrong, nor does chkrootkit, and Top does not indicate any unusual activity. Things seem to be back to normal now. I have firewalling set up in the r

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:05:52 -0600, Ron wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/27/07 09:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:52:17PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > >> The irony is that there are some eco groups tha

Real and effective uid in setuid executable

2007-03-04 Thread Sven Ekman
Hello, I have a setuid executable which is written in C. Is there a system call with which I can get the uid of the calling user if the executable is setuid root? If the executable is setuid to a non-root user, getuid() and geteuid() return the real and effective userid as expected. If setuid r

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-03-04 Thread pobox
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 12:28:45AM +0100, Peter Teunissen wrote: > Ah, memories. I wrote my first basic program on a sinclair zx81 :-) > It played russian roulette, sort of graphical ;-) LOL! Graphics on ZX81! I remember that :) Juraj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-04 Thread Andreas Duffner
Andrei Popescu wrote: I use ssh with X11 forwarding to manage the firewall. With firestarter? How? [snip X11 forwarding stuff] If *that* isn't shooting a fly with a canon, than I don't know what is. Mmm. So why do you use shorewall at all ? It is like using a pistol against an unarmed inv

Re: CMS for server

2007-03-04 Thread Jordi
Thanks Alan For my needs ( many features, robustness, community ) drupal may be a good solution to test. Jordi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

initramfs-tools fixed (maybe) --- how to resume install?

2007-03-04 Thread Charles Blair
I am trying to install debian (testing) on a machine that has Windows XP. I downloaded and booted the first .iso image (weekly build as of Feb 28). Partitoning and other steps seem to have worked properly. When I started the "install the base system", things seemed ok until just after I w

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