How to print on an HP Color Laserjet 2600n (ZJSream protocol)

2007-02-26 Thread Mirto Silvio Busico
Hi all. I need to print on an HP Color Laserjet 2600n Searching for this model showed that this strange print shoud be a winpriter using the ZIStram protocol. I tried different drivers (the hp 2600n, the 2 generic zjstream drivers) with no luck. On this site http://foo2hp.rkkda.com/ it is expli

RE: Please help to make a server accesible from the internet

2007-02-26 Thread Julian De Marchi
> The other Windows PC remains configured to use DHCP. > Is there something wrong until this step? No, all is fine so far. Better yet, try to ping your windoze internal IP address. > After this, I forwaded the ports 80 and 443 to the Xubuntu PC. > When I type mi static ip (85.etc I think I better

Subtle but annoying X startup problem

2007-02-26 Thread Bob Cox
I have used Linux for several years, but always in CLI only mode. I have a Debian box running mail and webservers and also a couple of NSLU2 'slugs' running Armeb Debian. And they're all fine. Recently, however,I installed Etch with the default desktop settings, on a PC of reasonably modern spec

Re: Please help to make a server accesible from the internet

2007-02-26 Thread Jordi
Hi thanks for replying My only device is a router. Thomson Speedtouch 530v6. I have not any other device, nor modem. I have set the Xubuntu PC to work with static ip using these values: ip: 192.168.0.129 subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 gateway: 192.168.0.1 then do a ping: ping -c3 www.google.com and

OT Posts - My apologies!

2007-02-26 Thread Julian De Marchi
I have found my out spoken "opinion" of OT threads to be quiet mistaken. After having the time to read the non "god" related ones, they actually do by time in between REAL threads. They have also proven to be quite interesting to read, and I have now realized that they help the Debian Users "grow"

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Steve Lamb
Andy Smith wrote: > Given how easy it would be for these people to display some > self-restraint and a modicum of respect, I really hope they do, > before other measures become necessary. That sounds ominous... What other measures would that be, exactly? You going to jello someone's car? --

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/07 00:30, Andy Smith wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:24:40AM -0500, Celejar wrote: >> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:36:59 -0500 >> John - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On (24 and 25/02/07) mainly the same four or five folks wrote: >>> [snip]

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Andy Smith
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:58:35PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:57:00PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > Some folks around here consider myself, Ron, Paul, Andrew and some of > > > the others to be experts. I don't think any of us is in a

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-26 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > And dense. Ur/Pl/Coal/LNG/gasoline/diesel have very high > energy/mass ratios Solar power stations in space! Never cloudy or dark, light has little mass and high energy, conversion to microwave for beaming to earth receiving stations is easily doable now,

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Andy Smith
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:24:40AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:36:59 -0500 > John - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On (24 and 25/02/07) mainly the same four or five folks wrote: > > > > > Quite a lot of off-topic opinionated political nonsense. Agreed; far too much of it, b

Re: Bio-Based Fuels (OT: a dumb query? pls humor me)

2007-02-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 06:08 +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:42:22PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > Sorry, for the "Off-Topic" ness of this post. I guess we are being > > admonished for far too much of this. > > It's interesting that in the relatively few wildly off-topic thre

Re: Bio-Based Fuels (OT: a dumb query? pls humor me)

2007-02-26 Thread Andy Smith
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:42:22PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > Sorry, for the "Off-Topic" ness of this post. I guess we are being > admonished for far too much of this. It's interesting that in the relatively few wildly off-topic threads that constitute a large proportion of the mails to this lis

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-26 Thread John L Fjellstad
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I hate gmane (or maybe just it's web interface). d-u is dual-ported > to news:linux.debian.user. That's what I'd use. People actually use gmane over the web interface? Just subscribe to it as you would any other newsgroup by adding news.gmane.org as a

Re: mysql server won't start,

2007-02-26 Thread Andy Smith
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:32:25PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > On Sunday 11 February 2007 21:57, Andy Smith wrote: > > How did it go with the changing ownership of files that I > > recommended? > > still no luck. to wit: > > debian:/var/log# chown -Rc mysql:adm /var/log/mysql > > debian:/var/log#

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 23:38, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FWIW I was raised in a "born again" fundamentalist Christian family. None of the siblings remained in the faith. It was an intolerant way to live. >>> FW

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 23:37, David E. Fox wrote: > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:15:22 -0600 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I need something that will detect when I plug in my camera, and >> import any photos, and that's what gthumb does. > > I really

Re: updated iceweasel firefox now hijacked from homepage to ads!

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 23:28, Mitchell Laks wrote: > Hi, > > With my latest upgrade on sid to iceweasel 2.0.0.2+dfg-1. i now > have my firefox opening up to some hijacked web site called > http://firefox/ which is a advertising site and it tries to popup > open

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> FWIW I was raised in a "born again" fundamentalist Christian family. > >> None of the siblings remained in the faith. It was an intolerant way to > >> live. > > FWIW, there is a big difference between being raised in a born again > > family and being bor

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread David E. Fox
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:15:22 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need something that will detect when I plug in my camera, and > import any photos, and that's what gthumb does. I really like digikam. YMMV. --

updated iceweasel firefox now hijacked from homepage to ads!

2007-02-26 Thread Mitchell Laks
Hi, With my latest upgrade on sid to iceweasel 2.0.0.2+dfg-1. i now have my firefox opening up to some hijacked web site called http://firefox/ which is a advertising site and it tries to popup open http://ads1.revenue.net/load/227700/index.html?0_R_NUM=9563354... how to get rid of this annoy

Re: Archiver Cron Jobs

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 23:13, Michael Pobega wrote: > I'm pretty new to cron jobs, and I've just started playing around with > them pretty recently. > > I'd like to be able to create a cron job that does a weekly archive of > all of my folders in ~/mail. The way

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 23:03, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:55:04PM -0500, Stephen wrote: >> FWIW I was raised in a "born again" fundamentalist Christian family. >> None of the siblings remained in the faith. It was an intolerant way to

Archiver Cron Jobs

2007-02-26 Thread Michael Pobega
I'm pretty new to cron jobs, and I've just started playing around with them pretty recently. I'd like to be able to create a cron job that does a weekly archive of all of my folders in ~/mail. The way I have my mail set up is one folder per box, for example my folders are: ~/mail/inbox ~/mail/deb

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-26 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I hate gmane (or maybe just it's web interface). Try it with NNTP at news.gmane.org. Its indistinguishable from mailing lists/newsgroups, at least in Sylpheed-claws. Cybe R. Wizard -- When Windows are opened the bugs come in. Winduhs -- To UNS

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:55:04PM -0500, Stephen wrote: > > FWIW I was raised in a "born again" fundamentalist Christian family. > None of the siblings remained in the faith. It was an intolerant way to > live. > FWIW, there is a big difference between being raised in a born again family and be

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Excellent point. We hasn't thought of that. On 02/26/07 21:57, Andrew Myers wrote: > When you're on the digest that is not an option. Please consider us. :-( > > "Cybe R. Wizard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>> It's >>> getting a little difficult t

Re: Bio-Based Fuels (OT: a dumb query? pls humor me)

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 21:42, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 17:38 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: >> Algae based Bio-Diesel. 110,000 square miles of "useless desert" flooded >> with salt water and seeded with a certain algae > > Oops, just went through

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 22:16, Stephen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:52:17PM -0800 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> The "answer" is to make more wind farms. >>> Winds usually blow during the day, and that's when electricity >>> dem

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 21:33, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:30:12PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> The "answer" is to make more wind farms. >> >> Winds usually blow during the day, and that's when electricity >> demand is highest. Thus, (e

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:02:54PM -0800 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: > Stephen wrote: > > Really ? I took a quick look and couldn't find anything over 5 minute > > trailers for it. > > > Would you have an URL handy ? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMiAwe6TAYM will get you to part 2. I

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Kent West
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:47:14PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > >> http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alists.debian.org+roberto%40connexer.com >> >> This is just a big time guess, 2130 is the number. Mine was a guess too. >> >> I just counted all of my mails to @lis

OT: sponge-burning with solar-powered microwave ovens [was:: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)]

2007-02-26 Thread Kent West
Stephen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:23:13AM -0600 or thereabouts, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/26/07 10:08, Stephen wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:34:12AM -0600 or thereabouts, Kent West wrote: >>> I'm expecting solar power to become practical in the next thr

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-26 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:52:17PM -0800 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > The "answer" is to make more wind farms. > > > Winds usually blow during the day, and that's when electricity > > demand is highest. Thus, (enough) wind farms would help smooth out > > the need for

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-26 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:30:12PM -0600 or thereabouts, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/26/07 20:38, Stephen wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:23:13AM -0600 or thereabouts, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Myers
When you're on the digest that is not an option. Please consider us. :-( "Cybe R. Wizard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: It's getting a little difficult to find the ON topic posts. Mike Three words: filter, filter, filter. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "un

Re: growisofs: how to write iso files

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:20:00AM +0800, Yuwen Dai wrote: > Dear all, > > The manual of growisofs says the following line can write a iso file to a > DVD: > > growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso > > when I ran such command, there's error mesage "mkisofs doesn't recognize "=" > option,

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Steve Lamb
Stephen wrote: > Really ? I took a quick look and couldn't find anything over 5 minute > trailers for it. > Would you have an URL handy ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMiAwe6TAYM will get you to part 2. I think there's 6 parts and all should be in the play list associated with that URL. --

Re: Repository

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:42:56PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:16:24PM -0800, Baz wrote: > > Hello. I need help getting into my source.list to delete some lines. How > > do I change the permissions? I've tried Synaptic, but the lines I need to > > delete aren't ther

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-26 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > The "answer" is to make more wind farms. > Winds usually blow during the day, and that's when electricity > demand is highest. Thus, (enough) wind farms would help smooth out > the need for peak loads from nuke- or non-renewable generating plants. The irony is that there

Re: Bio-Based Fuels (OT: a dumb query? pls humor me)

2007-02-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 17:38 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > Algae based Bio-Diesel. 110,000 square miles of "useless desert" flooded > with salt water and seeded with a certain algae Oops, just went through the TOME summary, its 11,000 square miles. Or about: 0.310959514% of the 3,537,438 sq

Re: Repository

2007-02-26 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:16:24PM -0800, Baz wrote: > Hello. I need help getting into my source.list to delete some lines. How > do I change the permissions? I've tried Synaptic, but the lines I need to > delete aren't there. > > Sebastian > If changing the permissions is what you want to do

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:08:37AM -0800 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: > Excellent examination of early Christianity and the lack of corroborating > historical record of Jesus: > http://www.thegodmovie.com/index.php Hi Steve: Looks quite interesting ! > It is available in it's entire

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:30:12PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > The "answer" is to make more wind farms. > > Winds usually blow during the day, and that's when electricity > demand is highest. Thus, (enough) wind farms would help smooth out > the need for peak loads from nuke- or non-renewable

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 20:38, Stephen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:23:13AM -0600 or thereabouts, Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/26/07 10:08, Stephen wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:34:12AM -0600 or

growisofs: how to write iso files

2007-02-26 Thread Yuwen Dai
Dear all, The manual of growisofs says the following line can write a iso file to a DVD: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso when I ran such command, there's error mesage "mkisofs doesn't recognize "=" option, aborting". Which one's problem, growisofs or mkisofs? I use Debian etch, gro

Re: Download cd-iso images

2007-02-26 Thread David E. Fox
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:57:44 -0500 Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jigdo has never worked for me. Odd, that. I don't use it a whole lot, but it has worked for me the couple of times I've downloaded etch DVD disk #1 images. I usually, but not always, get appreciable throughput (have a DS

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:27:42PM -0500, John - wrote: > On (26/02/07 19:57), Joey Hess wrote: > > > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > Some folks around here consider myself, Ron, Paul, Andrew and some of > > > the others to be experts. I don't think any of us is in any danger of > > > quitting

Re: Installing Debian

2007-02-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Thomas A. Blair Sr. wrote: I am having trouble install Debian on my laptop. I have a Sony Vaio PCG-K25. I am using Windows XP Pro. I can install other Linux OS such as Suse and RedHat. When I get to the Select the Language my computer keyboard and mouse pad will not respond. I am trying to instal

Re: Dosemu

2007-02-26 Thread David E. Fox
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:42:48 -0900 Greg Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "I have found a solution, of sorts, as to why Dosemu does not run on > 2.6.12 + kernels, basically anything after Debian Sarge. It seems that   > 2.6.12 Hmm. I'm running 2.6.18 now (self-compiled) and dosemu works, as fa

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 15:55, Paul Johnson wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:38:41AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Arnt Karlsen wrote: >>> ..aye, but how many of us on the western side could know for sure before Russia

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 16:11, Paul Johnson wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: >>> That explains one of the reasons that public transportation is much >>> better here, although in New York City, publi

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Niels Rasmussen wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> IRC? > > Thanks, I'm out of here, bye! Good luck getting good answers out of them without babysitting the channel for hours at a time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:47:19AM +, Chris Lale wrote: >> Steve Lamb wrote: >> > >> > Given the choice of "Americans" or "Brits" answer these questions. >> > >> >> "Torch" is the shortened form of "electric torch" (provides continuous >> light, not flashes).

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:38:41AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> >> > ..aye, but how many of us on the western side could know for sure >> > before Russia Left the SU?  Or even on the eastern side? >> >> Everybody. When has any country having b

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-26 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:23:13AM -0600 or thereabouts, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/26/07 10:08, Stephen wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:34:12AM -0600 or thereabouts, Kent West wrote: > >> Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> But coal is less oogey-boo

RE: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
If you want to be taken seriously, don't top post. http://wiki.ursine.ca/Best_Online_Quoting_Practices Julian De Marchi wrote: > How about just talk about debian on a debian list. > > Is that to hard? Read the list topic statement. It's about users and help, not necessarily one or the other.

Re: Re: Debian 4

2007-02-26 Thread BILL SMITH
shad up eh On 2/26/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:20:44PM +, Doofus wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: > >On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 18:58 +, Doofus wrote: > > > >>When? > >> > >>For the past seven months we've had under the "news" section at > >>deb

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Carl Johnson wrote: > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Michael Pobega wrote: >> >> Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about >> >> how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Euro >> >> per >> >> liter. Do the math: 1.3 Euro = 1 Dollar.

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread John -
On (26/02/07 19:57), Joey Hess wrote: > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Some folks around here consider myself, Ron, Paul, Andrew and some of > > the others to be experts. I don't think any of us is in any danger of > > quitting the list. > > I am. > I, for one, would consider losing joeyh's a

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: >> >> That explains one of the reasons that public transportation is much >> better here, although in New York City, public transportation is also >> readily available (unless it is raining :) ) >> > Public tra

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > I don't think it is prudent to excuse people from anti-social > behaviour just because they are > smarter/more-knowledgeable/otherwise-better than the average > bear. Where do I rank? :o) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsu

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: > >> >> Off-topic from an off-topic thread? What an oxymoron. >> >> And yeah, teachers always say that we'll be switching to the metric >> system but it will never happen. I'm still in high school and my >> economics teacher says that all of

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Joe Hart wrote: > Well, they did change their monetary system, so normal people could count > money. Please don't do it to the clock. It's bad enough that Hitler shot himself in the head in '45 ending the rational justification for daylight savings time now without having to figure out what 72

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 19:50, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] > ..this is _regardless_ of whether the mercenaries commits war crimes or > tries to stop them. Letting mercenaries live, and keep even their money > in return for carrying the burden of proof they stop an

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/25/07 17:37, Joe Hart wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 02/25/07 16:55, Joe Hart wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/25/07 16:04, John K Masters wrote: >> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:40:57 +0200 Andrei Popescu >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Sun, 25

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Joey Hess
Greg Folkert wrote: > You are marginalizing yourself. There are many more forums. sure go > ahead and go there. But the thing is, you won't leave. You never left > during the great flame-wars on Debian-Devel, even though you said you > were going to there as well. > > Recently there have been some

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 19:29, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: >> On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 20:03 -0500, Joey Hess wrote: >>> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: [snip] > Participating in OT: threads or in flamewars does not mean that one likes > such stuff.

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:50:43PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > Ah, ok. Not lame, but wrong circumstances. Maybe if we'd been > drinking beer. /me sets down bottle okay. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:47:14PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alists.debian.org+roberto%40connexer.com > > This is just a big time guess, 2130 is the number. Mine was a guess too. > > I just counted all of my mails to @lists.debian.org with my current > e

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:01:12 -0600, Ron wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Seriously, no jokes or sarcasm: what's the term for non-mercenary > soldier? ..soldier. Or, human, pl humans. Under the full 4 Geneva Conventions, mercenaries lose _all_ human rights to POW treatment etc once ident

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 19:31, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:49:50PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/26/07 16:05, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:53:01PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/07 13:26, P

Re: Unsure where to report bug

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:25:50PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:04:52PM -0500, dominijannir wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm running Gnome on Etch (AMD64) and, after today's batch > > of updates, started having the following problem: > > > > Unless the Configu

Re: Installing Debian

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:31:20PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Thomas, > > I am taking this back to the list. It is generally considered bad form > to reply presonally and not to the list, unless what you have to say is > not appropriate for the list. *ahem* > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 20:11 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:08:45PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > > I'd wish you'd realize that you are a relative new comer, only starting > > posting in September 2006 with about 70 posts. Stay on this list for 5 > > years or more.

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:22:27PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 12:24:26PM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably > >> > >

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 06:24:40PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 17:34, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > >> While you're busy restarting that flame war again, why not also > >> ressurect the one asking for so-called header mungi

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:38:02PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: > > > Perhaps I should just unsubscribe from the debian, and fedora lists. There > > seems to be less of this sort of crap on forums. At least they are > > moderated. > > But you don't get the expertise. Forums t

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:49:50PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 16:05, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:53:01PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/26/07 13:26, Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/25/07 19:51, Michael M. wrote: > > On

Re: Installing Debian

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Thomas, I am taking this back to the list. It is generally considered bad form to reply presonally and not to the list, unless what you have to say is not appropriate for the list. On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:20:08PM -0500, Thomas A. Blair Sr. wrote: > I am new at using Debian, what is Etch (4.0)

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 20:03 -0500, Joey Hess wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> > I'm sorry to hear that. Of course, I expect that you are more than >> > capable of efficiently ignoring the OT threads, if you so choose. >> >> I read this list because I feel that it's im

Re: Please help to make a server accesible from the internet

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:22:12PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:27:51PM -0800, Jordi wrote: > > > > I have 2 computers: one with Xubuntu and the other with Windows XP. > > The Xubuntu machine is connected to the router Thomson Speedtouch > > 530v6 by ethernet ca

Re: Unsure where to report bug

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:04:52PM -0500, dominijannir wrote: > > > Hi, > > I'm running Gnome on Etch (AMD64) and, after today's batch > of updates, started having the following problem: > > Unless the Configuration Editor has been used to set the > screensaver to a blank page, opening > Deskto

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:17:42PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > You are marginalizing yourself. There are many more forums. sure go > ahead and go there. But the thing is, you won't leave. You never left > during the great flame-wars on Debian-Devel, even though you said you > were going to ther

Unsure where to report bug

2007-02-26 Thread dominijannir
Hi, I'm running Gnome on Etch (AMD64) and, after today's batch of updates, started having the following problem: Unless the Configuration Editor has been used to set the screensaver to a blank page, opening Desktop->Preferences->screensaver (either Gnome's or xscreensaver) immediately logs me o

Re: Please help to make a server accesible from the internet

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:27:51PM -0800, Jordi wrote: > Hello > > I am actually a user of Xubuntu Linux, but as it is based on Debian, > and here may be more people that are wise on servers, I come to ask > you for help. > > I have 2 computers: one with Xubuntu and the other with Windows XP. > T

Re: No sound in Thinkpad Z61M after configuring ALSA

2007-02-26 Thread Allan Wind
I know this thread is a bit old by now, but I noticed the "irq 66" in your /dev/sndsat which looked odd (typo). To get a similar machine working here I had to `dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base`, and I noticed some upgrades of that package which is now at 1.0.13-4. alsamixer does not offer me a head-pho

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:12:45AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:00:43 -0500, Roberto wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > W (whatever you think of him, he *does* have moral > > fortitude). > > ..huh??? This is Sissy Boy George, the Nepotist Warrior Ace who Flew

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 20:03 -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > I'm sorry to hear that. Of course, I expect that you are more than > > capable of efficiently ignoring the OT threads, if you so choose. > > I read this list because I feel that it's important that DDs are > avail

Re: Installing Debian

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:14:24PM -0500, Thomas A. Blair Sr. wrote: > I am having trouble install Debian on my laptop. I have a Sony Vaio PCG-K25. > I am using Windows XP Pro. I can install other Linux OS such as Suse and > RedHat. When I get to the Select the Language my computer keyboard and mou

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:00:43 -0500, Roberto wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:38:59AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > Name five American national-level politicians in your lifetime that > > had moral fortitude. You can't get that far in US politics without >

Installing Debian

2007-02-26 Thread Thomas A. Blair Sr.
I am having trouble install Debian on my laptop. I have a Sony Vaio PCG-K25. I am using Windows XP Pro. I can install other Linux OS such as Suse and RedHat. When I get to the Select the Language my computer keyboard and mouse pad will not respond. I am trying to install Debian Version 3.1 r0ai. Sh

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:08:45PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > I'd wish you'd realize that you are a relative new comer, only starting > posting in September 2006 with about 70 posts. Stay on this list for 5 > years or more. I have more than 2,350 most being VERY informative to > most people, y

RE: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 10:33 +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote: > Because I like reading the debian problems/solutions posted on the > mailing list. Then why are you contributing to it? > I do not like hearing off topic crap. I ma voicing the opinions many > want to say. This *IS* on topic. Debian U

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:33:31AM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote: > How about just talk about debian on a debian list. you know, we mostly talk about debian stuff. this is an extended conversation between all sorts of people all over the world. It is a kind of social forum. The reality of any sit

Re: debian, package and other version info

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:01:44PM -0800, Petra Kabayo wrote: > Thanks a lot Roberto. > > Now, does "4" in 4Sarge5 correspond to the Debian stable release number? > When you download the Debian installers, you see the versions: > > 3.1_r0 > 3.1_r1 > . > . > 3.1_r5 > > So

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:03:07PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > I read this list because I feel that it's important that DDs are > available to help users with problems that other users may not > efficiently help them with. And I've been on this list long enough to > know that many of the people wh

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Joey Hess
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > I'm sorry to hear that. Of course, I expect that you are more than > capable of efficiently ignoring the OT threads, if you so choose. I read this list because I feel that it's important that DDs are available to help users with problems that other users may not effici

Re: debian, package and other version info

2007-02-26 Thread Petra Kabayo
Thanks a lot Roberto. Now, does "4" in 4Sarge5 correspond to the Debian stable release number? When you download the Debian installers, you see the versions: 3.1_r0 3.1_r1 . . 3.1_r5 So this means Debian 3.1_r5 already includes mysql-server-4.1/4.1.11a-5? And then any ne

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:57:00PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Some folks around here consider myself, Ron, Paul, Andrew and some of > > the others to be experts. I don't think any of us is in any danger of > > quitting the list. > > I am. > I'm sorry to hear that. O

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:38:35PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Some folks around here consider myself, Ron, Paul, Andrew and some of -^^ dude, thanks! I score geek cred! yes! A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

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