Re: iptables usage

2007-02-06 Thread franck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: > I've been trying to get iptables working so that I can finally have a > worthwhile client-side non-graphical firewall. So to test it out, I > typed these two commands: > > /# iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT > # ip

Re: No keyboard in gdm-greeter on reboot

2007-02-06 Thread Dave Thayer
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:26:00AM -0500, John Stoffel wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've been running into a strange issue with gdm on bootup. The mouse > works, but the keyboard doesn't. This has been opened as bug #406457 > (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=406457), but I > haven't

Re: [Solved] Re: Locale setting different for root and user

2007-02-06 Thread Marcus Blumhagen
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 12:20:37AM -0500, Stephen wrote: > [...] > It works just dandy now. Any idea why 'LC_ALL=' is blank after running > 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' or is that anything to worry about ? > [...] LC_ALL is unset because it has higher priority than LANG and all other LC_*. If it wer

Re: documentation for novice and newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Chris Lale
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 06:19:00PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: Sounds like exactly what I had in mind, and seems like a pretty good battle plan for jumping into the documentation. What format will the document be written in initially, plain text? I figure if we d

hpodder question

2007-02-06 Thread Jude DaShiell
with hpodder update files are claimed to be missing in the /home/jude/.hpodder/feedxfer/ directory and this is causing hpodder to throw exceptions and die. The associated files that are missing appear to be from already existing feeds and unless I'm mistaken feeds are returning smaller file si

Re: documentation for novice and newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Chris Lale
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [...] as I understand it, newbiedoc as a whole is unable to change its licence to GPL from GFDL to make it possible to just migrate it to wiki.debian.org. Is may not be possible just to merge projects like this. You may find it easier to work within an existing

Re: The system hangs up when I press ctrl+alt+f1

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Pobega
myusernet wrote: > I want to kill X, so I press the combination but the system hangs up, > half of the screen was the desktop and the other one is totally black. > I tried alt+f2, the light of num lock on the keyboard was off, and > after pressing alt+f1, the light was on again, so, I think the > k

The system hangs up when I press ctrl+alt+f1

2007-02-06 Thread myusernet
I want to kill X, so I press the combination but the system hangs up, half of the screen was the desktop and the other one is totally black. I tried alt+f2, the light of num lock on the keyboard was off, and after pressing alt+f1, the light was on again, so, I think the keyboard was still workin

[Solved] Re: Locale setting different for root and user

2007-02-06 Thread Stephen
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 06:05:53AM +0100 or thereabouts, Marcus Blumhagen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 11:27:04PM -0500, Stephen wrote: > > Why the difference, and what do I change to fix it? > Hi Stephen, Hi Marcus: > maybe it is set in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile. You can find out

Re: dazuko and linux-image.2.6

2007-02-06 Thread Jan Schledermann
Bill Thompson wrote: > On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:40:20 +0100 > Jan Schledermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Bill Thompson wrote: >> >> > capabilities are built into the kernel >> >> I use with Avira and it compiles fine with debian. >> Check this out: http://www.dazuko.de/tgen.shtml > > I tri

Re: I want to get the desktop like this

2007-02-06 Thread Francisco Zabala
On 2/6/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/06/07 22:21, myusernet wrote: > http://linuxtoy.org/img/2007/02/xfce-4-4.png > I want to optimize my desktop like this, what should I do? File not found. If you want to see the image ju

Re: Locale setting different for root and user

2007-02-06 Thread Marcus Blumhagen
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 11:27:04PM -0500, Stephen wrote: > [...] > $ locale > [...] > LANG=en_CA.ISO-8859-1 > [...] > > # locale > LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 > [...] > > Why the difference, and what do I change to fix it? Hi Stephen, maybe it is set in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_pr

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/06/07 22:50, Michael Pobega wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> [...] >> >> > Hmm...Now all I need is a good (Free) host with IMAP. Any ideas? Free? Do it yourself. Register with dyndns.org and install courier-imap-ssl. http://www.fastmail.fm/ mig

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:05:21PM -0500 or thereabouts, Michael Pobega wrote: > Stephen wrote: > >>> > >> Unless you forged that mail header. > >> > > > > LOL Trust me Ron, it's not forged. :-P > > > > I use Exim4 to send to SMARTHOST Google, and fetchmail/procmail to fetch > > and pro

Re: Attracting newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Pobega
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:12:01PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/06/07 21:56, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: >> >>> That I'm the only one left on the planet with a printer that right now >>> can't print ps even with gs-esp. Its a mechanical problem with the

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Pobega
Ron Johnson wrote: > [...] > > Hmm...Now all I need is a good (Free) host with IMAP. Any ideas? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Attracting newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/06/07 22:29, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:12:01PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/06/07 21:56, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: >>> That I'm the only one left on the planet with a printer that right now >>> can't print ps

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/06/07 22:30, Michael Pobega wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > Do you mean that you have all of your mailboxes synced with > one another? I'd love to be able to do that with Mutt and > Icedove if possible. Any chance you have a URL to a >>

Re: Attracting newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:12:01PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/06/07 21:56, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > That I'm the only one left on the planet with a printer that right now > > can't print ps even with gs-esp. Its a mechanical problem with the > > printer. Its 26 years old. > > Geez,

Re: I want to get the desktop like this

2007-02-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/06/07 22:21, myusernet wrote: > http://linuxtoy.org/img/2007/02/xfce-4-4.png > I want to optimize my desktop like this, what should I do? File not found. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFyVW3S9HxQb37X

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Pobega
Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> Do you mean that you have all of your mailboxes synced with > >>> one another? I'd love to be able to do that with Mutt and > >>> Icedove if possible. Any chance you have a URL to a > >>> walkthrough/HowTo on how to do something like that? > >> No, no, no. > >> > >> ONE mai

Locale setting different for root and user

2007-02-06 Thread Stephen
I reconfigured locales on Etch from ISO-8859-1 to en_CA.UTF-8 'dpkg-reconfigure locales'. What's weird is that when I do 'locale' as a regular user I get the following; $ locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale

Re: I want to get the desktop like this

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Pobega
myusernet wrote: > > > > http://linuxtoy.org/img/2007/02/xfce-4-4.png > > I want to optimize my desktop like this, what should I do? > > > Ïë¼ÓÈëÂð£¿1.9ÒÚÓû§ÕýÔÚʹÓÃÍøÒ×ÓÊÏä www.126.com All that

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/06/07 22:11, Michael Pobega wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/06/07 21:54, Michael Pobega wrote: >>> Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/06/07 21:05, Michael Pobega wrote: > Stephen wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 08:44:38PM -0600 or >

Re: xmcd problem?

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Ianson
On Tue February 6 2007 19:01, Bayrouni wrote: > Alan Ianson a écrit : > > On Tue February 6 2007 16:57, Listscribbler wrote: > >> I have xmcd_2.6-19_i386.deb installed on an etch laptop. I cannot figure > >> out how to use xmcd to rip ogg files off audio CDs. > > > > Never used or seen that one so

I want to get the desktop like this

2007-02-06 Thread myusernet
http://linuxtoy.org/img/2007/02/xfce-4-4.png I want to optimize my desktop like this, what should I do?

Re: random quirkyness

2007-02-06 Thread Mike Myers
On 2/6/07, Mike Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/27/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 02:41:40PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm still trying to adjust from Gentoo's way of doing things (do it > > manually) to debian's (apt-somet

Re: Attracting newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/06/07 21:56, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 09:46:09PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/06/07 21:26, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: >>> On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:09:30PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > >>> Pdf can have inter

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Pobega
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/06/07 21:54, Michael Pobega wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/06/07 21:05, Michael Pobega wrote: > >>> Stephen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 08:44:38PM -0600 or thereabouts, Ron > >> Johnson wrote: > > On 02/06/07 20:37, Stephen wrote: > >> On Tue,

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/06/07 21:54, Michael Pobega wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/06/07 21:05, Michael Pobega wrote: >>> Stephen wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 08:44:38PM -0600 or thereabouts, Ron >> Johnson wrote: > On 02/06/07 20:37, Stephen wrote: >>>

Re: Attracting newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 09:46:09PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/06/07 21:26, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:09:30PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > Pdf can have internal links as well as a table of contents that one can > > click on. On the other hand, one needs

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Pobega
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/06/07 21:05, Michael Pobega wrote: > > Stephen wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 08:44:38PM -0600 or thereabouts, Ron > Johnson wrote: > >>> On 02/06/07 20:37, Stephen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:45:09PM -0500 or thereabouts, Michael > Pobega wrote: > >

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread hendrik
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 08:54:54PM +, Chris Lale wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 04:08:53PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > > >>I agree with you, I'm not one of those people who are completely against > >>Ubuntu; I think just anything you can accomplish in U

Re: Attracting newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/06/07 21:26, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:09:30PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > >> The way I see it all that we'll need is HTML, PDF, and plain text. Plain >> text is the easiest to read through a terminal window, a

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/06/07 21:05, Michael Pobega wrote: > Stephen wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 08:44:38PM -0600 or thereabouts, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 02/06/07 20:37, Stephen wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:45:09PM -0500 or thereabouts, Michael Pobega

Re: iptables usage

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Pobega
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:01:23PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > >> I've been trying to get iptables working so that I can finally have a >> worthwhile client-side non-graphical firewall. So to test it out, I >> typed these two commands: >> >> /# iptables -A INPUT -

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Dave Patterson
Michael Pobega wrote: > I don't mind not getting geek creds. > C'mon, Mutt's fun! Ciao, Dave signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: iptables usage

2007-02-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:01:23PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > I've been trying to get iptables working so that I can finally have a > worthwhile client-side non-graphical firewall. So to test it out, I > typed these two commands: > > /# iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT > # iptable

Re: Attracting newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:09:30PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > The way I see it all that we'll need is HTML, PDF, and plain text. Plain > text is the easiest to read through a terminal window, and it should be > how we write the original documentation. Once we finish a full plain > text versi

Re: Attracting newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Pobega
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > So if we go with the wiki, we (or at least I) have to learn a new markup > language and resign ourselves that the work can't be used in any other > work. If we go with another format, it needs a home and we (or at least > I) have to learn a new markup language. Unless

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Pobega
Stephen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 08:44:38PM -0600 or thereabouts, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/06/07 20:37, Stephen wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:45:09PM -0500 or thereabouts, Michael Pobega >>> wrote: >>> >>

iptables usage

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Pobega
I've been trying to get iptables working so that I can finally have a worthwhile client-side non-graphical firewall. So to test it out, I typed these two commands: /# iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT # iptables -A INPUT -j REJECT /And for some reason I completely lost my connection t

Re: xmcd problem?

2007-02-06 Thread Bayrouni
Alan Ianson a écrit : > On Tue February 6 2007 16:57, Listscribbler wrote: >> I have xmcd_2.6-19_i386.deb installed on an etch laptop. I cannot figure >> out how to use xmcd to rip ogg files off audio CDs. > > Never used or seen that one so I'm not sure. > >> A year ago I had xmcd (don't recall v

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 08:44:38PM -0600 or thereabouts, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/06/07 20:37, Stephen wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:45:09PM -0500 or thereabouts, Michael Pobega > > wrote: > >> John K Masters wrote: > > > >>> PS if yo

Re: Attracting newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
RE: how to write the documentation, where to put it. It seems that wget won't crawl through a wiki, it will just grab the one page. Its no different than saving the page with the browser. >From this, one can produce a postscript output but with no control over formatting. There doesn't seem to

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:43:32PM +0100 or thereabouts, Mathias Brodala wrote: > Hello Michael. > > Michael Pobega, 06.02.2007 22:35: > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Using icedove at the moment, can you suggest to me a better mail client > > to use for mailing list *and* personal email on the

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/06/07 20:37, Stephen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:45:09PM -0500 or thereabouts, Michael Pobega wrote: >> John K Masters wrote: > >>> PS if you have the time and patience try Mutt >>> >> As far as I know I've read that Mutt doesn't work

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:45:09PM -0500 or thereabouts, Michael Pobega wrote: > John K Masters wrote: > >PS if you have the time and patience try Mutt > > > As far as I know I've read that Mutt doesn't work well with Gmail; And > seeing as my main/only e-mail account is gmail, I can't use Mutt

How can I install a system whose locale is utf-8 compatible

2007-02-06 Thread myusernet
When choosing language and region, I choose China, but I want the system to support utf-8 because it is said to be easy to configure some software. How can I do?

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Jason White
On 2007-02-06, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as I know I've read that Mutt doesn't work well with Gmail; And > seeing as my main/only e-mail account is gmail, I can't use Mutt :-( You can use Fetchmail to retrieve all of your mail using POP3 or IMAP. Once it is delivered to y

Re: xmcd problem?

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Ianson
On Tue February 6 2007 16:57, Listscribbler wrote: > I have xmcd_2.6-19_i386.deb installed on an etch laptop. I cannot figure > out how to use xmcd to rip ogg files off audio CDs. Never used or seen that one so I'm not sure. > A year ago I had xmcd (don't recall version) installed under "unstable

Re: How to switch to text mode

2007-02-06 Thread Paul E Condon
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:30:50PM -0800, Francis Healy wrote: > Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Glenn Becker wrote: > > > >>> Yes, I'd say much more elegant! :^) > >> > >> I'd say - no. > > > > Okay! :^) > > > >> to remove: > >> #update-rc.d -f gdm remove > >> > >> to restore: > >>

xmcd problem?

2007-02-06 Thread Listscribbler
I have xmcd_2.6-19_i386.deb installed on an etch laptop. I cannot figure out how to use xmcd to rip ogg files off audio CDs. A year ago I had xmcd (don't recall version) installed under "unstable" which had a cdda-save mode (ie, save to file with choice of formats). Maybe I had compiled that xm

Re: documentation for novice and newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 06:43:08PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 06:19:00PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > Sounds like exactly what I had in mind, and seems like a pretty good > > battle plan for jumping into the documentation. What format will the > > document

Re: Booting Debian/testing fails

2007-02-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 01:13:07PM +, Wulfy wrote: > Chris Bannister wrote: > >For example, I prefer to set up my system the way I want to, I don't > >want a GUI whereas a newbie doesn't understand a computer without one. > >Already you have a conflict. > I don't think it's quite that simple.

Re: Removing Unused Programs

2007-02-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 03:43:20PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > I know most people use Deborphan and Aptitude to remove unused libraries > and programs, but I'm wondering if there is a way to (For apt-get users) > remove unused utilities? > > By this I mean, if I install progA it asks me to in

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 11:41:00PM +, Steve Kemp wrote: > Real geeks know how to trim their mail, so they don't need to quote > long messages in their entirety for a one line reply. Lk 6-36 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [E

Re: Booting Debian/testing fails

2007-02-06 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 04:25, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 22:01:43 -0500 > > I do not understand your comment about debian wiki. Do you want me to > > put a link in the debian wiki or do you want me to put the whole > > contents there? > > The former would be nice, the later wou

Re: How to switch to text mode

2007-02-06 Thread Francis Healy
Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Glenn Becker wrote: > >>> Yes, I'd say much more elegant! :^) >> >> I'd say - no. > > Okay! :^) > >> to remove: >> #update-rc.d -f gdm remove >> >> to restore: >> #update-rc.d gdm defaults > > I learned something, today, great! TMTOWTDI, I guess. > >

Re: Removing Unused Programs

2007-02-06 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello Marcus. Marcus Blumhagen, 07.02.2007 00:41: > But AFAIK there's > no way to let apt-get also remove the dependencies. Not yet. APT 0.7.0 comes with automatic dependency removal[0] which should be equal to what Aptitude offers. Regards, Mathias [0] http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/apt/news

Re: News Flash

2007-02-06 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 03:19:17PM -0800, Baz wrote: > Steve Jobs is promoting the idea of ending DRM. Read at > http://blogs.marketwatch.com/bambi/2007/02/apples_jobs_has.html > Here is the original essay: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/ I'd say that "promote" is a bit of a stron

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 06:17:15PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > > The reason for having a graphical installer is that there currently is no way > to support some languages with just an ncurses based installer. I believe > this is the main reason why we have a graphical installer and why i

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 06:18:27PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > Real geeks use mailx. > Pfft. *Real* geeks telnet to port 25 on the destination mail server and type the entire SMTP session manually :-) Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http:

Re: documentation for novice and newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 06:19:00PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > Sounds like exactly what I had in mind, and seems like a pretty good > battle plan for jumping into the documentation. What format will the > document be written in initially, plain text? I figure if we do plain > text initially

Re: Removing Unused Programs

2007-02-06 Thread Marcus Blumhagen
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 03:43:20PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > [...] > By this I mean, if I install progA it asks me to install libA, libB, > progC, and depenF. Now when I apt-get remove progA, it will just remove > progA. I would like to remove progC and depenF as well, without removing > un

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Steve Kemp
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 06:18:27PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > Real geeks use mailx. Real geeks know how to trim their mail, so they don't need to quote long messages in their entirety for a one line reply. Steve -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature

News Flash

2007-02-06 Thread Baz
Steve Jobs is promoting the idea of ending DRM. Read at http://blogs.marketwatch.com/bambi/2007/02/apples_jobs_has.html Sebastian -- "...heart and soulone will burn." - Joy Division

Re: samba-common = 3.0.23d-4 but 3.0.24-2 is installed

2007-02-06 Thread Justin Hartman
Actually ignore my email below. I ran the apt-get -f install again and get no more errors. It looks like your solution worked and my package is now upgraded. Thanks for the help. I really do appreciate it! On 2/7/07, Justin Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok now we're getting somewhere. I ad

Re: samba-common = 3.0.23d-4 but 3.0.24-2 is installed

2007-02-06 Thread Justin Hartman
Ok now we're getting somewhere. I added the symbolic link and this fixed up a lot of the errors but I still get one. See my output as follows: debian:/home/justin# cd /etc/rc2.d/ debian:/etc/rc2.d# ln -sf ../init.d/samba K09samba debian:/etc/rc2.d# apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 11:50:23PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 21:39:41 + > John K Masters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 16:35:22 -0500 > > Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:28:

Re: documentation for novice and newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Pobega
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > [...] > > > How does this sound? > > Doug. > Sounds like exactly what I had in mind, and seems like a pretty good battle plan for jumping into the documentation. What format will the document be written in initially, plain text? I figure if we do plain text initially

Re: [OT] Thank you ... (was: Re: Removing desktop environments)

2007-02-06 Thread cga2000
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 05:09:21PM EST, Marcus Blumhagen wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:04:45PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > > [...] or am > > > I really *that* slow on typing? ;) > > > > gtypist? :-) > > > [...] > > Thanks a lot for the hint about gtypist. :-) It's pretty good actually .. I

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 14:43, Michael Pobega wrote: > I would hate to see a graphical installer for Debian. I think the curses > installer does just fine, a graphical installer would only bring in > people thinking that Debian is Windows. The reason for having a graphical installer is that th

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 03:06:11PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > Etch has a GUI installer, really? I never noticed it. > Read those syslinux.cfg pages. you can get gui, the default curses, or even readline for use with really dumb terminals, like a teletype on serial. D

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 16:35, Michael Pobega wrote: > > Using icedove at the moment, can you suggest to me a better mail client > to use for mailing list *and* personal email on the same account? (I > have Icedove/Thunderbird set to filter out all mail with > @lists.debian.org to my Debian mai

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-06 Thread cga2000
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 08:24:46AM EST, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:04:45PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > > Is there any way I can have debian help me figure out if there is stuff > > that should be removed such as libraries that nothing uses -- naturally > > I did not rem

Re: How to switch to text mode

2007-02-06 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 06:01:04PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 03:08:37PM +, Glenn Becker wrote: > > > > >I am running xfce4 but I want to boot the system to console instead of > > >gui. What am I supposed to do? >

Re: How to switch to text mode (correction)

2007-02-06 Thread Marcus Blumhagen
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:55:46PM +0100, Marcus Blumhagen wrote: > Although this way is quite fast, one would have to do it again > everytime an upgrade of [gkwx]dm happens, since there will be no > symlinks in /etc/rc*.d. But if there were K[gkwx]dm links in > the appropriate /etc/rc*.d invoke-rc

Re: samba-common = 3.0.23d-4 but 3.0.24-2 is installed

2007-02-06 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 00:44:21 +0200, Justin Hartman wrote: > On 2/7/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: > >Just to be sure: Comment out the rest of the script, i.e. add a "#" > >character at the beginning of every remaining line. > > Done but still get same error when apt-get -f install It seems like th

Re: iceweasel not being recognized by ISP website

2007-02-06 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 17:28 -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > H.S. wrote: > > > The website ... suggests I either download Firefox or > > IE 6 or 7, all for Windows. They do not support any non-Windows browser > > at all! > > Firefox runs on Linux. Or do you mean that website says or implies > t

Re: How to switch to text mode

2007-02-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 03:08:37PM +, Glenn Becker wrote: > > >I am running xfce4 but I want to boot the system to console instead of > >gui. What am I supposed to do? > > IIRC you need to go into /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/ and mv 'S99gdm' to 'K99gdm' > wherever it appears. Same if you see 'S99kdm' a

Re: iceweasel not being recognized by ISP website

2007-02-06 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 17:26 -0500, Daniel B. wrote: > Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:42:22AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> Raju's point about employment with capitalone is entirely > >> different. CapitalOne is not (at least ostensibly) a web content > >> company.

Re: samba-common = 3.0.23d-4 but 3.0.24-2 is installed

2007-02-06 Thread Justin Hartman
On 2/7/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just to be sure: Comment out the rest of the script, i.e. add a "#" character at the beginning of every remaining line. Done but still get same error when apt-get -f install If you still get the complaint from invoke.rc-d then we have to lo

Re: iceweasel not being recognized by ISP website

2007-02-06 Thread Daniel B.
Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:42:22AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Raju's point about employment with capitalone is entirely different. CapitalOne is not (at least ostensibly) a web content company. As such they can (IMO) be somehwat forgriven for having non-compliant

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-06 Thread Daniel Barclay
Greg Folkert wrote: ... The issue here is that you only need to backup your data. Backups of /usr and /var and so on mean nothing. I think you're giving bad advice. Think about /var a little more, for example: /var/spool/mail/ /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ /var/lib/dpkg/info/ /var/log/ A /us

documentation for novice and newbies

2007-02-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
Hi all, We've got lots of ideas flowing. Rather than reponding to each post (I was away for one day and there's a lot on this thread), I'll try to repond from my perspective to some of the points. In no particular order: I have been subscribed for a couple of weeks to the debian-www list (which

Re: iceweasel not being recognized by ISP website

2007-02-06 Thread Daniel Barclay
H.S. wrote: The website ... suggests I either download Firefox or IE 6 or 7, all for Windows. They do not support any non-Windows browser at all! Firefox runs on Linux. Or do you mean that website says or implies that it only works with the Windows version of Firefox (and not others, e.g.,

Re: samba-common = 3.0.23d-4 but 3.0.24-2 is installed

2007-02-06 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 23:59:17 +0200, Justin Hartman wrote: > On 2/6/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: > >"samba.prerm" might work even better... > > Yes that indeed does work better. I added the exit 0 below the > #!/bin/sh but running the apt-get -f install still returns the same > errors. Is this a b

[OT] Thank you ... (was: Re: Removing desktop environments)

2007-02-06 Thread Marcus Blumhagen
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:04:45PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > [...] or am > > I really *that* slow on typing? ;) > > gtypist? :-) > [...] Thanks a lot for the hint about gtypist. :-) Up to now I used ktouch but hated, that it pulls in that many dependencies since I don't use KDE. So now I caould

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Pobega
Mathias Brodala wrote: > Hello Michael. > > Michael Pobega, 06.02.2007 22:35: > >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:28:44PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: >>> I always thought you were supposed to respond to messages as "Reply All", but I'll get out

RE: SSH accounts - basic restriction

2007-02-06 Thread Jarek Buczyński
> My advice? Go ahead and restrict permissions under /etc if you insist, > but don't be surprised to find stuff suddenly failing to work! OK. Thank You Dave for advices... I remove world access apache, bind and some other files, catalogs... It looks like works normal and users don't have access.

Re: samba-common = 3.0.23d-4 but 3.0.24-2 is installed

2007-02-06 Thread Justin Hartman
On 2/6/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "samba.prerm" might work even better... Yes that indeed does work better. I added the exit 0 below the #!/bin/sh but running the apt-get -f install still returns the same errors. Is this a bug or is it something just with my system? -- Regard

Re: How to switch to text mode

2007-02-06 Thread Marcus Blumhagen
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 06:03:43PM +0200, Atis wrote: > [...] > to remove: > #update-rc.d -f gdm remove > [...] Although this way is quite fast, one would have to do it again everytime an upgrade of [gkwx]dm happens, since there will be no symlinks in /etc/rc*.d. But if there were K[gkwx]dm links

Re: samba-common = 3.0.23d-4 but 3.0.24-2 is installed

2007-02-06 Thread Justin Hartman
On 2/6/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think you are misunderstanding the output of your "apt-get -f install" command: It wants to replace samba 3.0.23d-4 with version 3.0.24-2. This is a normal upgrade attempt. The problem is that the pre-removal script of the package fails for s

RE: SSH accounts - basic restriction

2007-02-06 Thread Jarek Buczyński
> Apache2: Apache2 starts up as root, and then changes to the > user and group specified in the config files (default is > www-data:www-data). So, if you change the group owner of > apache2 to www-data (and all the files therein), and remove > world access (chmod o-rwx), apache should still work.

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 21:39:41 + John K Masters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 16:35:22 -0500 > Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:28:44PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> I always thou

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Pobega
John K Masters wrote: On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 16:35:22 -0500 Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:28:44PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: I always thought you were supposed to respond to messages as "Reply All", but I'll g

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello Michael. Michael Pobega, 06.02.2007 22:35: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:28:44PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: >>> I always thought you were supposed to respond to messages as "Reply >>> All", but I'll get out of that habit. Sorry about that. >>> >> Most decen

Re: samba-common = 3.0.23d-4 but 3.0.24-2 is installed

2007-02-06 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 22:37:42 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] > /var/lib/dpkg/info/sambe.prerm ^^^ "samba.prerm" might work even better... -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:35:22PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > Using icedove at the moment, can you suggest to me a better mail client > to use for mailing list *and* personal email on the same account? (I > have Icedove/Thunderbird set to filter out all mail with > @lists.debian.org to my

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