Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:58:35PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 07:08:54PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote: > > > >>Yes. But I don't want to loose any data at all. > > > > > >there is no way to guarantee this. you could improve your odds by > >havi

Re: Unix socket question - TLS with Exim/Courier

2006-12-05 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 10:43:58PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > failed to connect to socket /var/run/courier/authdaemon/socket: Permission > denied Oh, ran strace and can now see that the authdaemon directory is where the permissions are not correct. Lack of sleep doesn't always help with debugg

Re: Problem installing packages with apt-get, aptitude and dselect

2006-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:05:23PM -0500, José Alburquerque wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >check out the package apt-listbugs. It puls down critical (and maybe > >severe) bug reports and prompts you before installing packages. That's > >how I saw the segfault bug in apt and held my apt an

Re: Something different -- playing with the Hurd

2006-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 07:41:35PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > Okay, so I'm bored. > > Linux may be getting too complete, easy, and stable. ;-) > > So, what's a geek to do? *BSD? Nawww, too mature, and I don't like to > wander too far away from the Debian community (yes, there's Debian > GN

Re: following recent upgrade

2006-12-05 Thread Richard A Nelson
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Tom Allison wrote: ntpd returns a permission denied error! All the files are ntp owned... btdt :( every time I've seen that, there have been multiple ntpd daemons running - something in the postinst doesn't properly kill the prior daemon. do `ps aux | grep ntpd` (or jus

Re: Odd Gnome behavior

2006-12-05 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:13:28 -0800 Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 22:35 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:41:54 -0800 > > Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I have run across an oddity in Gnome's be

Unix socket question - TLS with Exim/Courier

2006-12-05 Thread Bill Moseley
I'm missing something obvious here. I have two Debian Stable boxes both running exim4-daemon-heavy 4.50-8sarge2 & courier-imap-ssl 3.0.8-4sarge5 One machine Exim can connect to the Courier authdaemon socket and the other I get permission denied on the socket. I have not been able to find the dif

Re: Firefox crashing on gmail

2006-12-05 Thread Santanu Chatterjee
Hi Sridhar, Does your firefox also crash on www.xilinx.com like mine? I'm sure it does. If so, like I said in my earlier mail, we definitely have the same problem. After reading this thread, I searched for a solution with renewed enthusiasm, and just now found this: -

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/05/06 21:43, Mike McCarty wrote: > Douglas Tutty wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 07:55:40PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: >>> Douglas Tutty wrote: On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:57:38PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] [snip] > If in X years yo

Re: Can't get etch rc1 kppp or ndiswrapper wireless to connect to the net.

2006-12-05 Thread heba
2006/12/5, Mike Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, kppp won't load as user but will as root, even so won't connect. Ndiswrapper is loaded, states it is connected to lan but will not connect to net. Anyone have any ideas? It is driving me crazy. A few weeks ago etch was working on the net. Ndiswr

mouse freaks out

2006-12-05 Thread Jason Dunsmore
My Logitech usb mouse (model M-BT96a) has a tendancy to freak out a couple of times per hour. When this happens, the mouse cursor suddenly goes to one of the screen corners. When I try to reorient myself by moving the mouse to see where it went, the mouse moves rapidly all over the screen. Norm

Re: postfix relay smtp authentication

2006-12-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:58:26PM -0500, T wrote: > On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:27:45 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > >> # cat /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd > >> upstream.mail.exchange[EMAIL PROTECTED]:password > > > > Can you have multiple entries, one per user? > > From > http://www.k2.on

Re: postfix relay smtp authentication

2006-12-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:55:25PM -0500, T wrote: > > what's the output of following command in your system? > > grep smtp_sasl /etc/postfix/main.cf > $ grep smtp_sasl /etc/postfix/main.cf smtp_sasl_auth_enable=yes smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd smtp_sasl_security_opti

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Mike McCarty
Douglas Tutty wrote: If FEC is used on all media (except CDROM), is there any value in adding my own FEC layer over top or should I just format the drive JFS and copy my tar.bz2 backup file to it and be done? (remembering that the drive in the bank is only one of the sets of data I keep). Onl

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Mike McCarty
Douglas Tutty wrote: Thanks Mike, If I can attempt to summarize a portion of what you said: If the issue is resistance to data block errors, it doesn't matter if I use a file system or not so I may as well use a file system then if have difficulty, rip multiple copies of

Re: postfix relay smtp authentication

2006-12-05 Thread T
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:55:39 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> I have been succesfully running postfix on Sarge as a local mailserver >> relaying all outbound mail (from multiple internal accounts) to my ISP. >> >> However my ISP has just decided to require SMTP authentication. >> > > Here i

Re: postfix relay smtp authentication

2006-12-05 Thread T
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:27:45 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> # cat /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd >> upstream.mail.exchange[EMAIL PROTECTED]:password > > Can you have multiple entries, one per user? From http://www.k2.on.lk/fourm/viewtopic.php?t=30 "u can list many servers as you like wi

Re: postfix relay smtp authentication

2006-12-05 Thread T
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:55:39 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> I have been succesfully running postfix on Sarge as a local mailserver >> relaying all outbound mail (from multiple internal accounts) to my ISP. >> >> However my ISP has just decided to require SMTP authentication. > [...] > > Al

keyboard problems on boot

2006-12-05 Thread Jason Dunsmore
Hi, I'm using a Goldtouch 4200U usb keyboard with Debian Etch, kernel 2.6.16.13. The keyboard layout resembles a laptop keyboard, with about half of the keys on the right half having dual function as a number pad. When I first start the computer, those keys don't work on the gdm login screen. I

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 09:43:55PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > Yes, FEC is used on all modern technology data storage that I know of, > with the possible exception of CDROMs. I haven't studied the low level > data storage format they use to know whether they use any FEC when > storing data as op

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Douglas Tutty
Thanks Mike, If I can attempt to summarize a portion of what you said: If the issue is resistance to data block errors, it doesn't matter if I use a file system or not so I may as well use a file system then if have difficulty, rip multiple copies of the file syste

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Mike McCarty
Douglas Tutty wrote: On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 07:55:40PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: Douglas Tutty wrote: On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:57:38PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] I'm not complaining Mike. Also, note who's saying what; there's a few voices in this conversation. Sorry, did

Re: postfix relay smtp authentication

2006-12-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 09:27:45PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 12/05/06 18:55, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > > Here is what I have done when I had an ISP that required SMTP AUTH: > > > > # cat /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd > > upstream.mail.exchange[EMAIL PROTECTED]:password > >

Re: Command Language Reference Book (Website)

2006-12-05 Thread Eric Cooper
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 04:39:44PM -0800, Baz wrote: >Hello. Will someone please recommend a reference book (or website) >about fundamental to mid-level command language (Unix/Linux/Debian)? http://www.cactus.org/~dak/shellscript.html http://www.google.com/search?q=bash+tutorial -- Eric

Re: using bootchart

2006-12-05 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 10:54:24AM +0800, Yuwen Dai wrote: > On 12/6/06, Douglas Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 09:34:09AM +0800, Yuwen Dai wrote: > >> Dear all, > >> > >> When I used bootchart to benchmark booting of Debian sarge, I found > >> S40hotplug took nearl

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/05/06 21:20, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 12/05/06 19:33, Douglas Tutty wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:57:38PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> > [snip] >>> The question is, if a block is sucessfully written now, if the drive is >>> not used for

dhcp3, assign IP based on client

2006-12-05 Thread michael
Hello, I wondering if I can assign a specific IP to a machine based on its name? I realize this can be done with hardware ethernet address, but I would prefer to use client-hostname if its even possible. A regular machine connecting to the dhcp3 server will add an entry to the dhcpd.leases file,

Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-05 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:45:51PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Doug writes: > > The difficulty is, having seen the code, how do I accomplish the same > > thing without using hints inherent in your code. Its like trying to > > write a literature-research paper; having read a hundred articles, I hav

Re: postfix relay smtp authentication

2006-12-05 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/05/06 18:55, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 12:13:26AM +0100, Martin Fuzzey wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have been succesfully running postfix on Sarge as a local mailserver >> relaying all outbound mail (from multiple internal acc

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/05/06 19:33, Douglas Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:57:38PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > >>> You could implement your own FEC. A very simple form of FEC is simply >> Yes, but *why*? Tape storage systems have been using ECC for deca

Re: Firefox crashing on gmail

2006-12-05 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:53:06PM -0800, Scarletdown wrote: > > To me, the most sensible solution is to set up an actual email client > (like Evolution, for example) to access your GMail account(s) via POP > and SMTP. For receiving, the server is simply pop.gmail.com with SSL > En

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Mike McCarty
Douglas Tutty wrote: On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:27:10PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: Douglas Tutty wrote: [snip] One thing to bear in mind is that, no matter how good an FEC method you use, you are going to have to store about 2x redundant data to get anything out of it. IOW, the data + par

Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-05 Thread John Hasler
Doug writes: > The difficulty is, having seen the code, how do I accomplish the same > thing without using hints inherent in your code. Its like trying to > write a literature-research paper; having read a hundred articles, I have > to ensure that everything I say in my paper is either my own idea

Re: using bootchart

2006-12-05 Thread Yuwen Dai
On 12/6/06, Douglas Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 09:34:09AM +0800, Yuwen Dai wrote: > Dear all, > > When I used bootchart to benchmark booting of Debian sarge, I found > S40hotplug took nearly 15 seconds. S40hotplug calls {pci,usb,isapnp}.rc, > and installing some mo

Re: Firefox crashing on gmail

2006-12-05 Thread Scarletdown
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 16:05 +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote: > Hello all, > > since yesterday evening, firefox is crashing when I log on to the gmail > account. This happens across all accounts on my box. I get the following > message on the console after it crashes: > To me, the most sensible solutio

Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.12: No such file or directory

2006-12-05 Thread KokHow.Teh
Hi; I am using a debian linux-2.6.17 system to build a linux-2.6.x (x = 12 or 9). After `make install` the newly built kernel, I could boot up the new kernel without error. However, when I boot up the system back to the original default linux-2.6.17, I am stumbled into the error above and d

Re: Problem installing packages with apt-get, aptitude and dselect

2006-12-05 Thread José Alburquerque
José Alburquerque wrote: When installation pauses because of a pending bug, does that always mean that a package should not be installed? Oops I didn't realize that the man page for apt-listbugs sort of explains it. Never mind the simplistic question. :-) -- Sincerely Jose Alburquerque -- T

Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-05 Thread John Hasler
Nate writes: > I have no beef with automatic Copyright, I just claim it's useless. Can > you find any case law where automatic Copyright has been invoked? Every case filed in the US under current copyright law. Automatic copyright is the only kind there is. > Try releasing something into public

Re: using bootchart

2006-12-05 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 09:34:09AM +0800, Yuwen Dai wrote: > Dear all, > > When I used bootchart to benchmark booting of Debian sarge, I found > S40hotplug took nearly 15 seconds. S40hotplug calls {pci,usb,isapnp}.rc, > and installing some modules. Is there any way to reduce this time? Thanks >

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 07:55:40PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > Douglas Tutty wrote: > >On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:57:38PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > > >The question is, if a block is sucessfully written now, if the drive is > >not used for 5 years then a read is attempted, is the drive

Re: apache2 memory footprint

2006-12-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 10:42:35AM -0800, Paul Yeatman wrote: > Hi, I've recently noticed that two of the four apache2 processes I have > running are consuming about 240Mb of memory each. I'm not doing > anything fancy. A very basic, default web server. I'm running Etch > which is using apache 2

Re: postfix relay smtp authentication

2006-12-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 12:13:26AM +0100, Martin Fuzzey wrote: > Hi, > > I have been succesfully running postfix on Sarge as a local mailserver > relaying all outbound mail (from multiple internal accounts) to my ISP. > > However my ISP has just decided to require SMTP authentication. > Here i

Re: signature invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006)

2006-12-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 06:12:49PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Does anybody know why I'm getting this message when I do "aptitude > update" > > >W: GPG error: http://mirrors.usc.edu etch Release: The following > >signatures were invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive > >Automatic

Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 05:44:14PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: > > I knew some pedantic schmuck would say that. > > Pretend that I left those OFF the message, because trying to make the > point in the message is difficult without saying it explicitly, so just > use your tiny little imagination and

Re: opening URLs in Firefox from Thunderbird using upstream programs

2006-12-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 05:38:33PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I am running Etch and want to continue to use the branded Firefox (2.0) > and Thunderbird. I do not want to switch to Icedove and IceWeasel. I > have been running the upstream Firefox 2.0 for a while, now, with no > problems. Whe

Re: Checking integrity of cached debs

2006-12-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 05:05:30PM -0500, Winston Smith wrote: > Does apt-get check the integrity of cached debs before installing them? > For example, if I did > > apt-get --download-only install > > which downloads the package to the file > > /var/cache/apt/archives/.version.deb > > but doe

Re: following recent upgrade

2006-12-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:39:02PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > ntpd returns a permission denied error! > > > All the files are ntp owned... > What is the exact message from the logs? What happens if you stop it and start it or restart it? Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://peopl

Re: using bootchart

2006-12-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 09:34:09AM +0800, Yuwen Dai wrote: > Dear all, > > When I used bootchart to benchmark booting of Debian sarge, I found > S40hotplug took nearly 15 seconds. S40hotplug calls {pci,usb,isapnp}.rc, > and installing some modules. Is there any way to reduce this time? Thanks >

Re: Command Language Reference Book (Website)

2006-12-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 04:39:44PM -0800, Baz wrote: > Hello. Will someone please recommend a reference book (or website) about > fundamental to mid-level command language (Unix/Linux/Debian)? Thanks. > Sebastian > If by command language you mean shell, then you need to pick a reference that is

Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:02:12AM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: > > Code does NOT inherently *require* licensing or Copyright. You just > think it does. > Except that code, like every other creative endeavor gains the benefit of copyright on its creation. You must explicitly uncopyright it, or rel

Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-05 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 05:44:14PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: > Douglas Tutty wrote: > >On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:02:12AM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: >> > >>What would you like me to send you? A two line BASIC program? > >> > >>10 PRINT "HELLO" > >>20 GOTO 10 > >> > >>Look - there you go. Free code.

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Mike McCarty
Douglas Tutty wrote: On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:57:38PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > You could implement your own FEC. A very simple form of FEC is simply Yes, but *why*? Tape storage systems have been using ECC for decades. There's a whole lot of "Linux people" who's knowledge of computer

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:27:10PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > Douglas Tutty wrote: > >I've looked at par2. It looks interesting. For me, the question is how > >to implement it for archiving onto a drive since the ECC data are > >separate files rather than being included within one data stream

Re: signature invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006)

2006-12-05 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 2, 2006, at 6:12 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: Does anybody know why I'm getting this message when I do "aptitude update" W: GPG error: http://mirrors.usc.edu etch Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) <[EMAI

Something different -- playing with the Hurd

2006-12-05 Thread Nate Bargmann
Okay, so I'm bored. Linux may be getting too complete, easy, and stable. ;-) So, what's a geek to do? *BSD? Nawww, too mature, and I don't like to wander too far away from the Debian community (yes, there's Debian GNU/kFreeBSD, but...). So, enter Debian GNU/HURD as an interesting diversion.

following recent upgrade

2006-12-05 Thread Tom Allison
ntpd returns a permission denied error! All the files are ntp owned... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

no bold font in X

2006-12-05 Thread Yuwen Dai
Dear all, I found there're no bold fonts in someplace where they should appear. For example, the gmail, the new arrived emails use bold font. Should I install anything or do configuration? My system is Debian Sarge. Best regards, Dai Yuwen

using bootchart

2006-12-05 Thread Yuwen Dai
Dear all, When I used bootchart to benchmark booting of Debian sarge, I found S40hotplug took nearly 15 seconds. S40hotplug calls {pci,usb,isapnp}.rc, and installing some modules. Is there any way to reduce this time? Thanks in advance. Best regards, Dai Yuwen

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:57:38PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > You could implement your own FEC. A very simple form of FEC is simply > > Yes, but *why*? Tape storage systems have been using ECC for decades. > > There's a whole lot of "Linux people" who's knowledge of computer > history see

Re: Firefox crashing on gmail

2006-12-05 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 10:35:36AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > Dumb question perhaps, but did you try running ldconfig? That is what is > usually the prob if "they are there" and also "not found". > That was the first thing that I did once I saw the 'not found' messages. For c

APM no kernel support ? Use Software suspend 2 ? how ?

2006-12-05 Thread Cameron L. Spitzer
[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] I had sarge on a Compaq Armada 3500 notebook. No ACPI, but APM suspend to disk was working with an upstream kernel with APM compiled in. Fresh etch install on the same system, 2.6.17-2-686. modprobe apm gives apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/05/06 18:27, Mike McCarty wrote: You could implement your own FEC. A very simple form of FEC is simply Yes, but *why*? Tape storage systems have been using ECC for decades. You are the only one who can answer this q

Re: Problem installing packages with apt-get, aptitude and dselect

2006-12-05 Thread José Alburquerque
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: check out the package apt-listbugs. It puls down critical (and maybe severe) bug reports and prompts you before installing packages. That's how I saw the segfault bug in apt and held my apt and apt-utils at the current version pending resolution. A The funny thi

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Mike McCarty
Tyler MacDonald wrote: [snip] When the /dump partition starts to get a bit full somewhere, I create a DVD image of some of the tarballs and burn off 4 copies. Two stay at home, one goes to my friend that is managing the repo, and one gets mailed to a friend in austria. You are effecti

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Mike McCarty
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 07:08:54PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote: Yes. But I don't want to loose any data at all. there is no way to guarantee this. you could improve your odds by having multiple storage locations with multiple copies and a rigorous method for routi

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/05/06 18:27, Mike McCarty wrote: > Douglas Tutty wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 05:47:23PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: >>> Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Douglas Tutty wrote: > I'm going to be backing up to a portable ruggedized hard drive

Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-05 Thread John Hasler
Andrew Sackville-West writes: > you release code anonymously into public domain. companyA sees that code, > likes it, grabs it, incorporates it, copyrights and distributes it in a > closed source application. this of course is their right as there are no > licenses or rights attached to the code.

Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-05 Thread Nate Duehr
John Hasler wrote: Copyright law is what it is, not what we want it to be. Agreed, but that doesn't require us to pay any attention to it, or give it more than it deserves. Nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-05 Thread Nate Duehr
Douglas Tutty wrote: On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 03:03:53PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: Thus, copyright in the real world only matters if the author chooses to exercise it. Since copywrite exists unless released within a licence, who would want to open themselves (or their company) to the risk of a l

Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-05 Thread Nate Duehr
Douglas Tutty wrote: On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:02:12AM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 09:52:16PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: I can send you some non-GPL'ed non-Copyrighted code right now. Would you like some? You're adding things that simply don't

Re: Installation process Debian Etch

2006-12-05 Thread aa dd
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 14:56:01 Magnus Pedersen wrote: aa dd wrote: I want to install debian etch. Now installation process is asking for domain name, what should I give? I don't have a domain setup. I've 4 winxp computers under a workgorup named Workgroup. So do I keep the field for domain n

Command Language Reference Book (Website)

2006-12-05 Thread Baz
Hello. Will someone please recommend a reference book (or website) about fundamental to mid-level command language (Unix/Linux/Debian)? Thanks. Sebastian "...heart and soulone will burn." - Joy Division

Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-05 Thread John Hasler
Douglas Tutty writes: > No. The forums are clearly stated on the web-site (not just assumed by > the culture) that they and anything posted to them are public. This > releases the rest of us from liability if we redistribute your code. I don't think it does. We are free to download the code and

Re: Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-05 Thread David Shultz
On 12/2/06, David Shultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Whenever I browse any website, mozilla says "Resolving www.google.com" and waits for about 15 seconds to resolve the host. I've disabled ipv6 but the problem is still there. Also I've checked the isp nameserver and they are fine. Does anyone h

Re: can't boot with Spurious ACK with kernel 2.6.19

2006-12-05 Thread Bernd Prager
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 10:09:00AM -0500, bernd wrote: > I'm trying to upgrade my Debian box to kernel 1.6.19. > The boot process immediatly locks in a loop with the message: > "atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access > hardware directly." > > The box is runni

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example, make multiple identical backups. sprinkle them in various > locations. on a periodic, routine basis, test those backups for > possible corruption. If their clean, make a new copy anyway to put in > rotation, throwing away the old ones

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Mike McCarty
Douglas Tutty wrote: On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 05:47:23PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Douglas Tutty wrote: I'm going to be backing up to a portable ruggedized hard drive. Currently, my backups end up in tar.bz2 format. [snip] Now, to something completely differ

Re: Bad mirror error during network installation

2006-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:56:12PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: > > Today the best one [1], for me, keeps dropping out while I'm > upgraiding. > > [1] debian.fifi.org I use debian.midco.net and it always works great for me. check out apt-spy. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 07:08:54PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote: > > Yes. But I don't want to loose any data at all. there is no way to guarantee this. you could improve your odds by having multiple storage locations with multiple copies and a rigorous method for routinely testing the backup media

Re: Bad mirror error during network installation

2006-12-05 Thread Wayne Topa
maarten fiege([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > LS > > I'm trying to install debian using a network > installation. Everything works great untill my pc > searches for a debian mirror. I've tried several > mirrors included the recommended mirrors and even the > "official" US mirror, bu

Re: Mdadm Corruption

2006-12-05 Thread Maxus
Hi Johannes, Thanks for the reply, I'm well aware the device is a hardware raid controller, but like most cheap raid card this unit uses the host CPU to do the raid striping. I was concerned that if the card failed I would lose my raid array, So I wanted to use mdadm so that I could just replace t

Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:55:21PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 03:03:53PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: > > > > Thus, copyright in the real world only matters if the author chooses to > > exercise it. > > Since copywrite exists unless released within a licence, who would wan

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 05:47:23PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > >Douglas Tutty wrote: > > > >>I'm going to be backing up to a portable ruggedized hard drive. > >>Currently, my backups end up in tar.bz2 format. > >> > >>It would be nice if there was some redundancy in th

Re: Problem installing packages with apt-get, aptitude and dselect

2006-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:01:51PM -0500, José Alburquerque wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >what version of apt-get? > > > >check out bug 401263. > > > >Interestingly, though the bug says it applies to 0.6.46.2, I am > >running that with no problems. (k7 arch). but there are a variety of

Re: postfix relay smtp authentication

2006-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 12:13:26AM +0100, Martin Fuzzey wrote: > > This works BUT only for a single user since the postfix version in sarge > (2.1.5) doesn't implement the smtp_sender_dependent_authentication > option and my ISP actually wants the correct password for each email > address (not

Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-05 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 03:03:53PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > >If you give or sell me a copy of a work of yours I own that copy and can do > >as I please with it (that includes running it if it is a computer program) > >with no need for a license. However, copyright law for

raidutil + debian stable + 2.6.17.11

2006-12-05 Thread Arnór Kristjánsson
Hi, I'm trying to monitor the RAID on a IBM x345 with 6 1RPM scsi drives on the built in RAID controller (Adaptec ServeRaid). I'm not having any luck. raidutil from the stable package says: xa:~# raidutil -L all Engine connect failed: COMPATIBILITY number osdIOrequest : File /dev/dpti1

Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?

2006-12-05 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:02:12AM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 09:52:16PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: > I can send you some non-GPL'ed non-Copyrighted code right now. Would > you like some? > > You're adding things that simply don't need to exis

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Mike McCarty
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Douglas Tutty wrote: I'm going to be backing up to a portable ruggedized hard drive. Currently, my backups end up in tar.bz2 format. It would be nice if there was some redundancy in the data stream to handle blocks that go bad while the drive is in storage (e.g. arch

Re: New PC, new install, new problems!

2006-12-05 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 10:49:33AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Truer words were never spoken, but... > It is extremely difficult to get before the purchase answers of more > recent mobo's. E.g. try to get a Linux perspective from any of the > hundreds of boards available thru NewEgg. > > Y

postfix relay smtp authentication

2006-12-05 Thread Martin Fuzzey
Hi, I have been succesfully running postfix on Sarge as a local mailserver relaying all outbound mail (from multiple internal accounts) to my ISP. However my ISP has just decided to require SMTP authentication. I have set up SASL following the postfix documentation and the authentication pha

Re: Odd Gnome behavior

2006-12-05 Thread Freddy Freeloader
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 22:35 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:41:54 -0800 > Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > I have run across an oddity in Gnome's behavior when running admin > > tools from the gui. > > > > If I run any of the tools found in

Re: Odd Gnome behavior

2006-12-05 Thread Freddy Freeloader
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 23:14 +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 13:41 -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > > If I run any of the tools found in the Desktop -> Administration menu, > > explicitly from that menu, Gnome asks me for the root password. I enter > > the root password and

Re: Problem installing packages with apt-get, aptitude and dselect

2006-12-05 Thread José Alburquerque
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: what version of apt-get? check out bug 401263. Interestingly, though the bug says it applies to 0.6.46.2, I am running that with no problems. (k7 arch). but there are a variety of possible solutions posted. you may have to use dpkg to manually install an older(or

Re: dedicated debian hosting

2006-12-05 Thread Tom Allison
Tom Allison wrote: Can anyone direct me towards debian based dedicated server hosting companies? I might be interested in other levels of hosting, but I might need more root-level access than some configurations would permit. Many thanks to everyone who responded on and off the list. Thi

Re: Odd Gnome behavior

2006-12-05 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:41:54 -0800 Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I have run across an oddity in Gnome's behavior when running admin > tools from the gui. > > If I run any of the tools found in the Desktop -> Administration > menu, explicitly from that menu, Gnome as

Re: backup archive format saved to disk

2006-12-05 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 10:53:13AM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Douglas Tutty wrote: > > I'm going to be backing up to a portable ruggedized hard drive. > > Currently, my backups end up in tar.bz2 format. > > > > It would be nice if there was some redundancy in the data stream to > > handle

Re: evolution vs firebird (or mozilla calendar)

2006-12-05 Thread Michael Marsh
On 12/1/06, H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been trying out evolution for a few months now, mainly as task manager or calendar application (appointments, schedules, etc.). However, it appears that it is not possible to keep two location in sync as far as the Evolution calendar goes (home (

Can't get etch rc1 kppp or ndiswrapper wireless to connect to the net.

2006-12-05 Thread Mike Carter
Hi, kppp won't load as user but will as root, even so won't connect. Ndiswrapper is loaded, states it is connected to lan but will not connect to net. Anyone have any ideas? It is driving me crazy. A few weeks ago etch was working on the net. Ndiswrapper fine, kppp worked in root ethernet conn

Re: Odd Gnome behavior

2006-12-05 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 13:41 -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > If I run any of the tools found in the Desktop -> Administration menu, > explicitly from that menu, Gnome asks me for the root password. I enter > the root password and it tells me I entered an invalid password. > However, if I run

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