Re: ISP has screwed up smtp for me... what to try? New ISP?

Kenward Vaughan wrote: > Hi folks, > > I hate writing this from my school's web access page, but I suddenly lost the > ability to send emails from home. Receiving is fine. Nothing had changed at > my end from the night before, when I had no problems. My ISP is Earthlink. > > I couldn't figure o

Re: ISP has screwed up smtp for me... what to try? New ISP?

On Monday 25 September 2006 19:03, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > Doesn't someone out there have an earthlink account, and how do you set > things up? Is something sitting there staring me in the face that will > work? A few weeks ago I used Earthlink SMTP from KMail with settings: General Host:

Re: copy a dvd

On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 17:48 +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote: > The advantage of vobcopy is that it removes the region code and decrypts > the whole disc. Are you positive of that? A couple months ago when I bought a DVD from Amazon (Dungeons and Dragons Volume Three), I found out it was Region 2. Eve

Re: Problem with wireless lan

askxuefeng wrote: i'm using debian sarge (kernel 2.6.17.13) and i have a problem with my wireless-lan card. my notebook has a 10/100M lan (eth0, ip: 192.168.0.101) and a 11M wireless lan (eth1, ip: 192.168.0.100), both configured with network 192.168.0.0, mask 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0

ISP has screwed up smtp for me... what to try? New ISP?

Hi folks, I hate writing this from my school's web access page, but I suddenly lost the ability to send emails from home. Receiving is fine. Nothing had changed at my end from the night before, when I had no problems. My ISP is Earthlink. I couldn't figure out originally what the issue was, u

mails come late

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Some time i am getting some mail with delay (even 2 days). Is this my gmail problem or list.debian.org or there own server ? - -- S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) Home page: http://lavluda.tripod.com Blog: http://lavluda.tk Yahoo!! ID: lavluda MSN ID: lavluda S

RE: (sid) apt-get install kde kdm fails

Title: RE: (sid) apt-get install kde kdm fails Hi First check your mirror. use apt-get dist-upgrade and after install kde Deepak Tripathi ..---. Open Source Developer  / \       [EMAIL PROTECTED]@./       /`\_/`\       ..''`.  

Re: (sid) apt-get install kde kdm fails

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 26 September 2006 03:32, RParr wrote: > I have installed Debian using etch installer b-3 (daily snapshot) and > then upgraded to sid (and added contrib, non-free to my repositories). > I installed as web-server, file-server, sql-server. I d

Re: Spam and spam filtering, a problem new to me

Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 09/25/06 15:31, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 02:14:49PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > [snip] > >> amount of filter fiddling will protect against this. What to > >> do? Are there new filtering techniques beyond spamassassin? > >> >

Re: debian forum

Ok, then how about I just gate the mailing list into the Fidonet DEBIAN echo ;) Maybe give everyone some exposure to the list that can't post to it directly :) Mark Grieveson wrote: Hi All, I would be willing to setup a Debian Forum for the users of this mailing list on my web servers. Woul

Re: starting X fails: out of scan range

Jos? Alburquerque-3 wrote: > > libre fan wrote: >>Last Friday I updated Debian (lot of xorg stuff was updated) and when I >>rebooted I got this message on the screen: out of scan range > > Sounds to me like the error your getting is because your monitor > settings are not correct in your /et

Re: problem with geda debian packages

geda-gschem depends on geda-symbols. Config file /etc/gEDA/system-gafrc belongs to geda-symbols. And you have version mismatch geda-gschem20060123-1 geda-symbols 20060906-1 package maintainer's error? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troubl

Re: kernel mess

Thierry Chatelet wrote: > Bruno Buys wrote: > >>I upgraded my cpu couple weeks ago, from a sempron2600+ to a 3400+ >>(754). The thing is, 3400+ has the x86_64 instruction set. My current >>stock kernel 2.6.8-2-k7 sees the sse3 instruction set (listed as 'pni' >>below), but does not report x86_64 (

Re: Debian Love

Thomas H. George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Add me to the list of devoted Debian users. I mailed a donation of $50 > this morning. I hope it helps. Bravo! The donation suggestion is the best suggestion in this thread. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)

Re: bind keys for vt consoles

On 09/25/2006 06:12 PM, Wayne Topa wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Wayne Topa wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: cga2000 wrote: Thanks Wayne, let me try that. Don't forget to log out/in after each change. .inputrc is only

Re: Making kernel 2.6.18

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote, On 2006-09-26 03:49: David Baron wrote: I recall others have had a problem with this as well. Looks for the asm/socket.h file. This is very often a problem on a clean(ed) build, usually solved by running a make until c files are actually being compiled and then stoppin

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

On 9/24/06, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why don't such things ever get submitted for a vote, to see exactly where the membership stands on this ? I would guess that the vast majority of those who post without being subscribed don't follow the list except to monitor follow-ups to their o

Re: kernel mess

Bruno Buys wrote: I upgraded my cpu couple weeks ago, from a sempron2600+ to a 3400+ (754). The thing is, 3400+ has the x86_64 instruction set. My current stock kernel 2.6.8-2-k7 sees the sse3 instruction set (listed as 'pni' below), but does not report x86_64 (i'm not sure if it doesn't see

Problem with wireless lan

hi, i'm using debian sarge (kernel 2.6.17.13) and i have a problem with my wireless-lan card. my notebook has a 10/100M lan (eth0, ip: 192.168.0.101) and a 11M wireless lan (eth1, ip: 192.168.0.100), both configured with network 192.168.0.0, mask 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1. the eth0 wo

kernel mess

I upgraded my cpu couple weeks ago, from a sempron2600+ to a 3400+ (754). The thing is, 3400+ has the x86_64 instruction set. My current stock kernel 2.6.8-2-k7 sees the sse3 instruction set (listed as 'pni' below), but does not report x86_64 (i'm not sure if it doesn't see the x86_64 or if it simp

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 07:53:21PM -0500 or thereabouts, Seth Goodman wrote: > I think the following would make Debian lists better for everyone: > > 1) allow users to subscribe for posting only, > > 2) require users to subscribe before posting and > > 3) allow users to temporarily turn off lis

Re: Etch won't install to /dev/hdax

On 9/25/06, Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi. I've just bought 6 DVD's (sources and binaries) of Debian Etch Official, but don't manage to install the GRUB boot loader to /dev/hda8, or to /dev/hda7, as I want. It gives me error message. I've done it hundreds of times with Sarge, with

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 07:53:21PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote: > > I think the following would make Debian lists better for everyone: > > 1) allow users to subscribe for posting only, > IIRC, the Debian lists are powered by mailman. Have they just disabled this functionality, or is it a technica

Re: Will Debian Sarge work on pSeries Hardware?

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 05:33:35PM -0700, Matt Olson wrote: > Hello, > > We're looking to install powerpc port of Debian on pSeries servers, > specifically the p505 Express. This page: > > http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/install > > doesn't say anything about IBM p5/pSeries hardware.

FUSE LUFS ftpfs etc.

Hi there, my goal is to mount an FTP connection into my filesystem. I tried both LUFS and FUSE. I tried to use the LUFS source that comes with Sarge (i.e. 0.9.7, which is also the most recent one) with a new kernel (2.6.17). The module crashed. I guess that's because the most recent LUFS release is

Can only burn coasters now

Hello list members, Today I noticed that I was having a problem with CD burning. Basically, all I could burn were coasters. I am running Sarge with pretty much everything stock, except for a few backports (oo2, gphoto2, wx2.6 and a few Debian developer tools). I also have a custom compiled kern

RE: Mouse Problems with KVM Switch

On Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:38 AM -0500, aladdin wrote: > Yeah, I've tried that. In fact, every so often, I try it again > (you know the definition of insanity- trying the same thing over > and over again and thinking you'll get a different result;-). In > my case, it doesn't work. What i

Re: debian forum

On 9/25/06, Everett Attebury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I made a bookmarklet to search the debian-user list. Just make a bookmark, copy this javascript and paste it into the bookmark's location field, and name it "Search debian-user list" javascript:Qr=document.getSelection();if(!Qr){void(Qr=p

RE: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

On Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:34 AM -0500, Stephen wrote: > On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 01:22:30PM -0500 or thereabouts, Seth > Goodman wrote: > > > You are right in saying there is no apparent way to subscribe > > without getting all the list traffic. Without this feature, it > > is impractical to

Re: debian forum

> I just tried the following in google: > site:lists.debian.org debian-user debian forum > and got 7420 hits in 0.54s. > > Then I tried: > site:lists.debian.org debian-user "debian forum" > and got 123 hits in 0.26s. > > I had been on the verge of testing a forum to find out about their > claimed

Will Debian Sarge work on pSeries Hardware?

Hello, We're looking to install powerpc port of Debian on pSeries servers, specifically the p505 Express. This page: http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/install doesn't say anything about IBM p5/pSeries hardware. Will it install? Has anyone done this before? I'm hoping to get a defi

Re: Spam and spam filtering, a problem new to me

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/06 16:13, Peter Teunissen wrote: > > On 25-sep-2006, at 22:55, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 09/25/06 15:14, Paul E Condon wrote: >>> Over tha past few weeks, I have started receiving spam

Re: bind keys for vt consoles

Hugo Vanwoerkom([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Wayne Topa wrote: > >Hugo Vanwoerkom([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > >>cga2000 wrote: > > Thanks Wayne, let me try that. Don't forget to log out/in after each change. .inputrc is only read on login. Wayne -- A prin

Re: Spam and spam filtering, a problem new to me

On 25-sep-2006, at 22:55, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/06 15:14, Paul E Condon wrote: Over tha past few weeks, I have started receiving spam email that contains text the is all well formed words, but doesn't make sense as a spam message, or as any

Re: loop-aes: "losetup -F /dev/loop3" failed

On (25/09/06 22:08), David Kolf wrote: > Hello, > > I want to encrypt the swap and /home partition on my system using > loop-aes. Encrypting swap with random keys works fine, but the /home > partition, which should be password protected, is troubling me. > > I followed the instructions from > htt

Re: starting X fails: out of scan range

libre fan wrote: Hello, I have a Debian Etch+Sid and Xubuntu Dapper dual-boot. Last Friday I updated Debian (lot of xorg stuff was updated) and when I rebooted I got this message on the screen: out of scan range Though X is started (I typed startx on a terminal) Wdm (my display manager)

Re: Installing source packages?

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 12:16:00PM +0200, Jef Driesen wrote: Your method seems to work fine. But I still don't understand why dpkg doesn't want to replace eog. Because the checksum is also different in that case. What is the output of `apt-cache policy eog` ? $ ap

loop-aes: "losetup -F /dev/loop3" failed

Hello, I want to encrypt the swap and /home partition on my system using loop-aes. Encrypting swap with random keys works fine, but the /home partition, which should be password protected, is troubling me. I followed the instructions from http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/loop-AES.README in section

Re: bind keys for vt consoles

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 02:11:28PM EDT, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Wayne Topa wrote: [..] > > > >I use .inputrc for that. > > > >see /usr/share/readline/inputrc > > > >Some of my .inputrc file > ># Esc then m > >"\em":"/usr/bin/mutt\C-M" > ># Esc then f > >"\ef":"/usr/bin/mc\C-M" > >#Esc then t > >

Tomcat5 and Eclipse WTP - anyone got it working?

Has anyone here got Eclipse, with the WTP plugin working with the Debian configured tomcat5? The debian tomcat configuration seems to have been modified in some way. I can see from the changelog that some of the standard classpaths have been taken out and added later to the catalina.sh script,

Re: Odd Thing ? usb drive

Richard wrote: > hmm, I've been think about this usb drive, about wiping the filing system, > and going with ext3 for that extra security. > > Q. since this is a usb drive, and if I do reformat it with ext3 filing > system, will it automatically mount when unplugging and plugging back in, > as it

Re: Spam and spam filtering, a problem new to me

On 9/25/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - keep the messages in a holding area and send you a notification (this is probably not much better than the current situation Actually, this can be very workable if you have the notifications batched to once a day or even once a week.

Re: Spam and spam filtering, a problem new to me

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 10:56:59PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote: > On (25/09/06 16:31), Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > > > Reject anything with a .gif or .png attachment? > > There was a thread a while back when the list was being inundated with > messages like "Offical Security Update". A very s

Re: Spam and spam filtering, a problem new to me

On (25/09/06 16:31), Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 02:14:49PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > Over tha past few weeks, I have started receiving spam email that > > contains text the is all well formed words, but doesn't make sense as > > a spam message, or as any other sort of

Re: bash command timer

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/06 13:54, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for a way to time scripts, how long they take to execute. > > That has appeared in the list before, but now I can't find it. > > I could write it myself, but I bet it exists already.

Re: bash command timer

* Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060925 20:54]: > I am looking for a way to time scripts, how long they take to execute. time? Yours sincerely, Alexander -- http://learn.to/quote/ http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature

(sid) apt-get install kde kdm fails

I have installed Debian using etch installer b-3 (daily snapshot) and then upgraded to sid (and added contrib, non-free to my repositories). I installed as web-server, file-server, sql-server. I did not install desktop. I was (finally) able to get basic X installed (by wacking the xserver-x

Re: bash command timer

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 01:54:53PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for a way to time scripts, how long they take to execute. > > That has appeared in the list before, but now I can't find it. > > I could write it myself, but I bet it exists already. > Use /usr/bin/time, as

bash command timer

Hi, I am looking for a way to time scripts, how long they take to execute. That has appeared in the list before, but now I can't find it. I could write it myself, but I bet it exists already. Thanks H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: Spam and spam filtering, a problem new to me

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/06 15:14, Paul E Condon wrote: > Over tha past few weeks, I have started receiving spam email that > contains text the is all well formed words, but doesn't make sense as > a spam message, or as any other sort of communication. I think I have

Re: debian forum

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 03:50:04PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: > > This is a good idea. People could participate through either email or > by forum, and still include all the other list/forum users. This would > make both the mailing list and forum more effective, as more users are > available to

Re: Spam and spam filtering, a problem new to me

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 10:39:26PM +0200, Peter Teunissen wrote: > Yeah, would like to do that. But how can one achieve this with either > postfix, spamassassin or cyrus/sieve? I thought sieve couldn't check > attachment names or type. > You can write a script or some such thing and tell post

Re: debian forum

On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 14:46 -0400, Mark Grieveson wrote: > > I would be willing to setup a Debian Forum for the users of this mailing > > list on my web servers. Would there be much interest out there for this? > > If so, with some suggestions we can go ahead with this at some pace and > > have it

Re: Spam and spam filtering, a problem new to me

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 03:45:21PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 09/25/06 15:31, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 02:14:49PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > [snip] > >> amount of filter fiddling will protect against this. What to > >> do? Are there new filtering techniques beyon

Re: debian forum

On 9/25/06, Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If a forum could include postings from those using the mailing list, and, postings within the forum could go to the mailing list as well No need to create a new forum for this; this functionality is already available. By means of a bi-direc

Re: Spam and spam filtering, a problem new to me

On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 14:14 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > Over tha past few weeks, I have started receiving spam email that > contains text the is all well formed words, but doesn't make sense as > a spam message, or as any other sort of communication. I think I have > found what is going on: > >

Re: Spam and spam filtering, a problem new to me

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/06 15:31, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 02:14:49PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: [snip] >> amount of filter fiddling will protect against this. What to >> do? Are there new filtering techniques beyond spamassassin? >> > Re

Re: Spam and spam filtering, a problem new to me

On 25-sep-2006, at 22:31, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 02:14:49PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: Over tha past few weeks, I have started receiving spam email that contains text the is all well formed words, but doesn't make sense as a spam message, or as any other sort of com

Re: debian forum

Hi All, I would be willing to setup a Debian Forum for the users of this mailing list on my web servers. Would there be much interest out there for this? If so, with some suggestions we can go ahead with this at some pace and have it up and running in a day or so. Julian Hi Julian. I think it

Re: Spam and spam filtering, a problem new to me

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 02:14:49PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > Over tha past few weeks, I have started receiving spam email that > contains text the is all well formed words, but doesn't make sense as > a spam message, or as any other sort of communication. I think I have > found what is going on

Re: debian forum

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 01:36:25PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I just tried the following in google: > site:lists.debian.org debian-user debian forum > and got 7420 hits in 0.54s. > > Then I tried: > site:lists.debian.org debian-user "debian forum" > and got 123 hits in 0.26s. > > I had bee

Spam and spam filtering, a problem new to me

Over tha past few weeks, I have started receiving spam email that contains text the is all well formed words, but doesn't make sense as a spam message, or as any other sort of communication. I think I have found what is going on: The email *does* contain a message. It is contained in a .gif or .pn

Re: Making kernel 2.6.18

David Baron wrote: I recall others have had a problem with this as well. Looks for the asm/socket.h file. This is very often a problem on a clean(ed) build, usually solved by running a make until c files are actually being compiled and then stopping it. Then one could go on with whatever make

Re: bind keys for vt consoles

Wayne Topa wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: cga2000 wrote: On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 02:54:59PM EDT, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Things like xbindkeys bind keys for X. Is there such a thing for non-X? The vt's? What are you running in that console..? Are we t

Re: debian forum

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 10:33:25AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 07:18:32PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:38:50AM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote: > > > The purpose of the forum was not to ake over the mailing list, but assist > > > is more in-

Re: still in search of a good news reader

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:56:32PM +0930, Arthur Marsh wrote: > Hi, I did apologise about this. news.gmane.org which normally displays > my posts within a few minutes fouled up just with Debian-user and not > with other lists or groups I use, delaying posts about 24 hours. Sorry about the seem

Re: debian forum

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 01:07:59PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 05:03:36PM +, John Kelly wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:54:55 -0700, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > >> I'll never give up my trusty old mail/news client. It's ten > > >> times faste

Re: Recent upgrade causes drive lettering scheme to alternate from hda to hde

On Friday, 22 Sep 2006 09:10:22 -0700, Bob McGowan wrote: >> I recently upgrade a perfectly functional sarge laptop to etch. It has >> one standard internal IDE hard drive. Now, about half the time it >> boots up as hda, and the other half the time it boots up as hde. After >> the initramfs stage,

Re: copy a dvd

Personally, I think the most efficient method is vobcopy. vobcopy -m will mirror the entire DVD, and in the proper structure, to your hard drive. Then you can simply use K3B to burn it to a DVD-R or an iso file. Thanks. I'll have to try vobcopy. It looks like a useful program. Mark -

Cups - IPP - linux/mac/windows

Hi folks, i have a question concerning cups ipp and a very heterogenous network (~130 comps in the network). if i create a local profile (user ... whatever named in the different os's) which is exactly the one i have on my printerserver which gets its users from a ldap-server there is no pro

Re: hibernate desktop?

On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 02:08:51PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >Hi, > > > >Anybody done this successfully? > >Details? > > > > On a desktop running a two-seater Sid and kernel 2.6.17-ck1 and > suspend2-2.2.7.5-for-2.6.17 applied to that kernel with Hibernate Script >

USB mouse freezes

Hi, I'm running Sid on a Dell laptop. I often connect an external USB mouse to it using a USB hub. I updated many packages yesterday, after which this problem surfaced. My problem is that this external mouse is freezing after working for a short time (2-10 minutes). Unplugging the mouse and re-pl

Re: Debian Love

Add me to the list of devoted Debian users. I mailed a donation of $50 this morning. I hope it helps. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Problem installing xserver-xorg

On Monday 25 September 2006 14:50, Adam Porter wrote: > David Goodenough wrote: > > I am trying to install xorg on an HP 9010 laptop. It was installed but > > the hard drive died and so I took an old 2.5" drive I had which had linux > > on it with XFree86 (and a SIS screen configured) and I am try

Re: Odd Thing ? usb drive

hmm, I've been think about this usb drive, about wiping the filing system, and going with ext3 for that extra security. Q. since this is a usb drive, and if I do reformat it with ext3 filing system, will it automatically mount when unplugging and plugging back in, as it did before ? Or is there s

Testing - fetchmail heads up

Hi, all:Maybe it's just me, but after an upgrade this weekend, fetchmail stopped working, and when I tried to start it, I kept getting the message "Edit /etc/default/fetchmail to start fetchmail".  No editing in there helped, and running dpkg-reconfigure on fetchmail repeated the message twice!  It

Re: spamcop

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:45:21 +0100, George Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Also, I don't like to cause unnecessary offence, so when you >misinterpreted my words to imply such offence, I wanted to >clarify that none was intended. I don't believe you. >As I am the looser here, this will be my

Re: Good reference book

Clive Menzies wrote: > Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition > http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz Seconded, way the best! Ottavio Caruso -- Please follow up to mailing list! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protecti

Re: Debian Love

Jason Martens wrote: > It seems that morale is a bit low among the >developers right now Especially those who have to cross-compile for Debian and Ubuntu... > I love Debian. I love it too and it hurts me when some Debian developers smear it. >I love how the system works. Regardless of what

Re: fonts messed up

On Monday 25 September 2006 18:33, Lorenzo Bettini wrote: > The problem shows up again: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=384262 > > and this time the solution of reverting does not work for me (by > reverting to version xserver-xorg-core_2:1.0.2-10_i386.deb, X simply > does not st

Re: Search for real debian Live -cd

Jabka Atu wrote: > > I'm searching for real debian live, 1) There's no official Debian live cd. 2) There will never be as long as the Debian project is not interested in having one, see: 3)grml is nice (and Knoppix, too!), but is n

Re: spamcop

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:38:38 +0300, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >I'm not an administrator, but I do work in a customer-oriented field. >> And what field is that? >Airline (not low-cost) Airlines? This should light a good firestorm. >So, in your opinion, if other large busin

Re: spamcop

John Kelly wrote: > > > Really? I wonder why then, in the next email you needed to further > explain that you "made no assumptions" about my experience. Well you did put a question mark at the end of it. As far as I am aware that generally means you wanted a reply. Also, I don't like to cause u

Re: spamcop

John Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:12:37 +0300, Andrei Popescu > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I'm not an administrator, but I do work in a customer-oriented field. > >One of the first rules to learn is "Don't treat your customers like > >numbers in a statistic. They

OT : Does the Olympus VN-960 PC work in Linux?

Hi. http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/21.php http://www.streettech.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1405&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 You you happen to know whether this voice recorder works as a normal USB pendrive? We need to buy a few, and we need to download the a

Re: spamcop

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:12:37 +0300, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm not an administrator, but I do work in a customer-oriented field. >One of the first rules to learn is "Don't treat your customers like >numbers in a statistic. They are real persons with real problems and >feelings"

Re: spamcop

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:05:13 +0100, George Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You started this by saying your "experience" contradicts my "opinion" >> to imply that I don't know what I'm talking about. >When I said my experience contradicts your opinion I meant >exactly that, word for word. R

Re: spamcop

John Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well then obviously, if the number of complaining users is very small, > then what I said must be true: many users won't complain. > > George, if this is a debate, you're losing. I'm not an administrator, but I do work in a customer-oriented field. One of

Re: debian forum

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 05:03:36PM +, John Kelly wrote: > On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:54:55 -0700, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> I'll never give up my trusty old mail/news client. It's ten > >> times faster than using a web forum. > > >Forums are searchable where many email lists arc

Re: spamcop

John Kelly wrote: > > My statement is a simple if/then clause. It does NOT say "George is > near the bottom of the authority chain." I made no assumptions. But > if the shoe fits, you can wear it. Ah well, you missed my point about customer service then (which was my point by the way - shame,

Re: Etch won't install to /dev/hdax

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 06:29:15PM +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Hi. > > I've just bought 6 DVD's (sources and binaries) of Debian Etch Official, but > don't manage to install the GRUB boot loader to /dev/hda8, or to /dev/hda7, as > I want. It gives me error message. I've done it hundreds of time

Re: must run alsaconf alll the time for sound to work

On 9/23/06, Nelson Castillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (snip) Same here, running Debian unstable. I use gnome at the desktop, and Gaim and Amarok don't work unless I run alsaconf first. I upgraded alsa-base and alsa-utils to the latest version in sid and the error is gone. # apt-get update &&

Re: debian forum

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:54:55AM -0700, Raquel wrote: > On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:05:08 + > John Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:59:25 -0400, "Roberto C. Sanchez" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >I think that people who value their time and effort more tend

Re: debian forum

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:54:55 -0700, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'll never give up my trusty old mail/news client. It's ten >> times faster than using a web forum. >Forums are searchable where many email lists archives are not. Raquel, that's true. But some of us die-hards keep our ow

Re: debian forum

On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 07:18:32PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:38:50AM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote: > > The purpose of the forum was not to ake over the mailing list, but assist > > is more in-depth problems and a way of people to find common issues, > > instead of us

Etch won't install to /dev/hdax

Hi. I've just bought 6 DVD's (sources and binaries) of Debian Etch Official, but don't manage to install the GRUB boot loader to /dev/hda8, or to /dev/hda7, as I want. It gives me error message. I've done it hundreds of times with Sarge, with never problems: why does this happen now? I don't want

Re: debian forum

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:05:08 + John Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:59:25 -0400, "Roberto C. Sanchez" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I think that people who value their time and effort more tend to > >prefer the mailing list as it represents a much more efficient

Re: spamcop

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:55:18 +0100, George Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >John Kelly wrote: >> So I only have an opinion, without experience? How would you know? >I don't, so I make no assumptions that you do. >> When you're near the bottom of the authority chain, perhaps submission >> i

Re: Recommend a file manager

> T wrote: > > > > Please recommend a file manager. FileRunner is the one I've been using for years. Fits especially well into WMs like Blackbox: simple yet powerful, and easily configurable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMA

Re: need a newsreader with decent filtering

Arthur Marsh wrote: > At present, I'm trying knode but still seem unable to filter based on the > fact that news.gmane.org marks detected spam as cross-posted to > gmane.spam.detected (one cannot subscribe to gmane.spam.detected directly, > so one can't automatically mark gmane.spam.detected as re

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