Re: Debian unstable: xorg mouse configuration under vmware

2006-09-08 Thread Erich Steiger
OK, I found it out! In Debian stable the XF86Config-4 looks like this: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device""/dev/input/mice" Option "P

Re: Re: copy debian form vmware to real pc

2006-09-08 Thread Yang
Thanks for the info of grml, I had take a look in it. It seem to fit me well:clean, no gnome or kde. I really hate big wm! I will have a try of it. >Actually, if you are familiar with knoppix, I'd recommend grml, because I >think it's the best Live CD for me so far. check out grml.org. It deri

Re: copy debian form vmware to real pc

2006-09-08 Thread T
On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 09:05:15 +0800, Yang wrote: >>simple, tar it up (the whole root fs) and untar in real pc environment. >> >>mind you, you need to re-configure all the devices before you can make >>the vmware copy fully working in your real pc environment. > thanks for all the suggestion!

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:54:53PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 01:20:35PM +0200, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > > Is Debian unstable, stable enough for a Desktop system? > > If you have to ask, the answer is definately "no". > Agreed. However, IIRC, the OP mention already being

Re: create a debian mirror site

2006-09-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 06:57:49PM -0700, Brad Brock wrote: > Hi, I want to create a debian mirror site. I want to > install debian in multiple client at the same time. > It's not efficient when I use CD. > You probably want apt-proxy or a similar package. Check the list archives as this questio

Re: how secure is secure apt?

2006-09-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:53:20PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > hello, > > i just wanted to poll the debian community on whether they think that > using secure apt to upgrade/install packages over coffee shop wifi is > any more or less secure than doing the same via a home connection over > say

Re: Multiple RAID or encrypted partitions

2006-09-08 Thread Owen Heisler
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 13:35 +1000, Paul Dwerryhouse wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:45:08PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: > > Yes, I had considered doing that. And I'm sorry to keep harping on the > > same question, but I thought that RAID5 was capable of having multiple > > partitions in one arr

Re: Multiple RAID or encrypted partitions

2006-09-08 Thread Paul Dwerryhouse
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:45:08PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: > Yes, I had considered doing that. And I'm sorry to keep harping on the > same question, but I thought that RAID5 was capable of having multiple > partitions in one array; is it? Hmmm. I didn't think it was possible, but evidentally i

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 01:20:35PM +0200, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > Is Debian unstable, stable enough for a Desktop system? If you have to ask, the answer is definately "no". -- Marc Wilson | Do not dry clean. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 08 September 2006 10:06, Matej Cepl wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > I don't know too much about MTAs, but after your mail I > > find it strange that both my previous and current ISP use qmail. > > It USED to be the best alternative to sendmail (although I am not sure what > is older --

Re: [OT]: where to find midi file?

2006-09-08 Thread Zbynek Michl
Hi Rodolfo, I found some song with this name in the package at "http://home.att.net/~gravagnegang/Oldies.zip";, but I don't know if it is the right one what you are looking for ;-) Zbynek On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Excuse this really off-topic question. I'm getting crazy l

how secure is secure apt?

2006-09-08 Thread Michael Gilbert
hello, i just wanted to poll the debian community on whether they think that using secure apt to upgrade/install packages over coffee shop wifi is any more or less secure than doing the same via a home connection over say roadrunner? as i see it, there is an increased chance of a middleman (at t

create a debian mirror site

2006-09-08 Thread Brad Brock
Hi, I want to create a debian mirror site. I want to install debian in multiple client at the same time. It's not efficient when I use CD. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --

Tough experiments with sound in Debian.Help still appreciated.

2006-09-08 Thread Anthony Renaud
I began my problems with programs like audacity,ardour etc. I could not get them up and running,it was ardour that could not connect to Jack or audacity that had problems with the audio input/output layer.But I got that my problem was more difficult: the system could not play any sound. With the CD

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 08 September 2006 10:16, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > the most annoying parts are accept-then-bounce behaviour and mail > unbundling (mail to more recipients at the same place will be delivered for > each recipient extra) OK, before I avoided qmail because like everything else DJB, i

Re: Upgrade problems for sysvinit 2.86.ds1-16 -> 2.86.ds1-18

2006-09-08 Thread Bastian Venthur
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Those with packages being broken from this bug can fix it by using > 'apt-get --reinstall install package' on the affected packages. A > quick way out is to reinstall all the packages with scripts in > /etc/init.d/. > > for p in `dpkg -S /etc/init.d/*|cut -d: -f1|so

Re: copy debian form vmware to real pc

2006-09-08 Thread Yang
>simple, tar it up (the whole root fs) and untar in real pc environment. > >mind you, you need to re-configure all the devices before you can make the >vmware copy fully working in your real pc environment. > >tong thanks for all the suggestion! I know the tool dd and tar . what I really as

Re: Upgrade problems for sysvinit 2.86.ds1-16 -> 2.86.ds1-18

2006-09-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Petter Reinholdtsen] > A quick way out is to reinstall all the packages with scripts in > /etc/init.d/. This way proved to be too quick, trying to reinstall removed but not purged packages with init.d scripts left behind in /etc/init.d/. I recommend using something like this instead, to only rei

Re: Multiple RAID or encrypted partitions

2006-09-08 Thread Owen Heisler
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 10:27 +1000, Paul Dwerryhouse wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:37:14AM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: > > So, is it not possible to have multiple RAID5 partitions, or is this a > > temporary limitation of debian-installer? > > I might have misinterpreted your question earlie

Re: Multiple RAID or encrypted partitions

2006-09-08 Thread Paul Dwerryhouse
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:37:14AM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: > So, is it not possible to have multiple RAID5 partitions, or is this a > temporary limitation of debian-installer? I might have misinterpreted your question earlier as "creating multiple partitions within a single RAID5 array", whic

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 08 September 2006 17:32, Jordi Carrillo was heard to say: > You say you reinstalled from zero twice. What's the best way to get > into unstable? Personally, I use the ~180MB CD version or CD#1 of whatever is Stable. I keep it to an absolute

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 08 September 2006 17:32, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > > You say you reinstalled from zero twice. What's the best way to get into > > unstable? Installing the stable version and then doing a dist-upgrade or > > installing unstable right-away, I

[OT]: where to find midi file?

2006-09-08 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Excuse this really off-topic question. I'm getting crazy looking for a midi file version of `For Once in My Life', my favourite F. Sinatra's song, but what I find in internet is definitely bad quality. I wish a classical, traditional version. Does anyone have any suggestion on where to look for t

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
"Jordi Carrillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You say you reinstalled from zero twice. What's the best way to get into > unstable? Installing the stable version and then doing a dist-upgrade or > installing unstable right-away, I mean when debian installation asks you > which sources to choose you

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I didn't have as much > trouble as some with yaird, because I chanced to have a back-rev > kernel on the machine to boot into when I had the same problem you > did. I learned that the hard way :) Now I always have at least two kernel versions install

Re: Re: Hauppage Nova-T PCI DVB receiver card fine in 2.6.8, broken in2.6.16

2006-09-08 Thread Steve Duncan
Hi, Thanks for your help. After reading what Marty said about hotplug and udev, what I tried was: Start with a clean Etch install, then # apt-get install hotplug # mkdir /dev/dvb # mkdir /dev/dvb/adapter0 # mknod -m 0660 /dev/dvb/adapter0/video0 c 212 0 # mknod -m 0660 /dev/dvb/adapter0/au

Re: Debian Newbie looking for Usefull Tools

2006-09-08 Thread Miles Fidelman
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 01:01:30PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: The next release of Debian will *not* include Webmin. Unless you plan to stick with 3.1 (sarge) even after the release of 4.0 (etch), you will have to compile it yourself.

Re: Debian Newbie looking for Usefull Tools

2006-09-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:19:12PM -0700, Phillipus Gunawan wrote: > Hi there, > > Im a newbie at debian, just installing debian 31r0a from a DVD. I got an ADSL > connection with a crappy modem. Anyhow, I want to make a box that can do: > > - Generating traffic usage (download/upload) Not sure.

Re: Debian Newbie looking for Usefull Tools

2006-09-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 01:01:30PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > >The next release of Debian will *not* include Webmin. Unless you plan > >to stick with 3.1 (sarge) even after the release of 4.0 (etch), you > >will have to compile it yourself. > How come? > In short, webmi

Re: Debian Newbie looking for Usefull Tools

2006-09-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:11:58AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Phillipus Gunawan wrote: > >- Generating traffic usage (download/upload) > > > vnstat > >I heard that Webmin (www.webmin.com) is a tool that combine a few debian > >pacakages so easier to manage them. Any suggestion? > > > I fin

X server -> text console -> X server => system sometimes freezes

2006-09-08 Thread Zbynek Michl
Hi all. I have got laptop Acer TravelMate 8004LMi (Intel Centrino, CPU Pentium M Dothan 1.7 GHz, graphic card ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 - see more at "http://www.laptopshop.co.uk/Acer-Travelmate_8004LMI-laptop-1-nd2.htm";) and I have an ugly problem: A few days ago I have upgraded to the Debi

Re: Disk usage

2006-09-08 Thread Wayne Topa
Christian Christmann([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Hi, > > on my Debian system the RAID discs are partitioned like that: > > /dev/md1 9.2G 8.2G 593M 94% / > tmpfs 252M 16K 252M 1% /dev/shm > /dev/md3 37G 33G 2.5G 94% /usr > /

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Friday 08 September 2006 17:32, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > You say you reinstalled from zero twice. What's the best way to get into > unstable? Installing the stable version and then doing a dist-upgrade or > installing unstable right-away, I mean when debian installation asks you > which sources t

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Jordi Carrillo
You say you reinstalled from zero twice. What's the best way to get into unstable? Installing the stable version and then doing a dist-upgrade or installing unstable right-away, I mean when debian installation asks you which sources to choose you manually edit sources.list and put the unstable sen

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 08 September 2006 15:09, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > If we are talking about unstable breakages I always remember the > yaird issue (about one year ago), which made my system unbootable. > This is how I learned to

Re: Multiple RAID or encrypted partitions

2006-09-08 Thread Owen Heisler
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 00:32 +1000, Paul Dwerryhouse wrote: > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 05:43:36PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: > > I am wondering if there is any reason why the Debian installer doesn't > > allow multiple partitions in a RAID5 array > > Create a raid 5 array of the whole disk set and

Re: config mixer device for aumix

2006-09-08 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 21:42:06 +0300, Simo Kauppi wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:30:29PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 00:06:53 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I upgraded from sarge to etch, and now console sound apps like > > > aumix and mp3blaster won't wo

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Jordi Carrillo
I'll stay in testing. I've tried to move up to unstable and couldn't initiate the X server after the upgrade. Fortunately I had a backup of the whole system and got back to testing in a moment. As I see in http://packages.debian.org/testing and http://packages.debian.org/unstable there are no majo

Re: Disk usage

2006-09-08 Thread Andrew Perrin
Try du -x / -- Andrew J Perrin - andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu - http://perrin.socsci.unc.edu Assistant Professor of Sociology; Book Review Editor, _Social Forces_ University of North Carolina - CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210

Re: aptitude force removal

2006-09-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I want to remove the bittorrent package, but I get: > > $ aptitude purge bittorrent > The following packages will be REMOVED: > bittorrent{p} > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > podracer: Depends: bittorrent but it is not installable > R

Disk usage

2006-09-08 Thread Christian Christmann
Hi, on my Debian system the RAID discs are partitioned like that: /dev/md1 9.2G 8.2G 593M 94% / tmpfs 252M 16K 252M 1% /dev/shm /dev/md3 37G 33G 2.5G 94% /usr /dev/md0 92M 31M 57M 36% /boot ... How can I determine where th

Re: Firefox/CUPS printer properties

2006-09-08 Thread Russell L. Harris
Simo Kauppi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 09:50:49PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote: >> >> A recurrent problem which has plagued the combination of Firefox and >> CUPS several times is back again, with the system upgrade which I made >> yesterday or the day before: >> >>

Re: copy debian form vmware to real pc

2006-09-08 Thread Nico
T wrote: I want to copy the debian system form a vmware to real pc! what should be done to make the copyed system work? simple, tar it up (the whole root fs) and untar in real pc environment. mind you, you need to re-configure all the devices before you can make the vmware cop

Re: Firefox/CUPS printer properties

2006-09-08 Thread Simo Kauppi
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 09:50:49PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > A recurrent problem which has plagued the combination of Firefox and > CUPS several times is back again, with the system upgrade which I made > yesterday or the day before: > > Within the Firefox browser (version 1.5.0.4), the

Re: Debian Newbie looking for Usefull Tools

2006-09-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > The next release of Debian will *not* include Webmin. Unless you plan > > to stick with 3.1 (sarge) even after the release of 4.0 (etch), you > > will have to compile it yourself. > How come? The webmin package has been orphan

Upgrade problems for sysvinit 2.86.ds1-16 -> 2.86.ds1-18

2006-09-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
In version 2.86.ds1-16 of the sysv-rc package released 2006-09-06, the update-rc.d script was broken. When used to to update symlinks it would remove all symlinks for a init.d script if such symlinks existed, and add them if they were missing. This broke all packages being upgraded after the new

Automatic timing via bash prompt

2006-09-08 Thread Igor
To time a command in bash one can type: $ time command args... and get the output: real0m0.026s user0m0.003s sys 0m0.002s Is it possible to capture this timing information automatically for each command and display it as part of the bash prompt? If not bash, then maybe some oth

Understanding aptitude

2006-09-08 Thread T
Hi, Please help me understand the following aptitude output (having removed the cupsys package which is not working for me): --- $ aptitude install The following packages are BROKEN: acroread-plugins kwtools-sys mencoder-k6 mplayer samba sysvinit The follow

Pinning security updates

2006-09-08 Thread T
Hi, How can I pin security updates? For the following sources.list: deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free I gave the following in /etc/apt/preferences, which doesn't seem to work. // debian sarge security updates: Package: * Pin: release a=sarge/updates Pin-Prior

Re: why still using GCC-2.95 and Linux 2.4.x and 2.2.x?

2006-09-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 07:54:07PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > Hi, > I'm still interesting in knowing why people still use GCC-2.95 and the > older kernels, 2.2 and 2.4. As for the kernels, it used to be that the > older ones were more stable since 2.6 was also a development series, > b

Re: config mixer device for aumix

2006-09-08 Thread Simo Kauppi
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:30:29PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 00:06:53 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I upgraded from sarge to etch, and now console sound apps like > > aumix and mp3blaster won't work (sound apps work fine in X). > > During boot, the following me

Re: Beta-3 Etch install avoiding commandline?

2006-09-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
Zbigniew Wiech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Windows need just one empty partition for "C" disc. Debian asks for > decisions about filesystem elements (root, swap, home), that are not clear > for somebody new in linux. Don't say about automatic partitioning. As a > newbie I wanted to retain W

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-08 Thread Scott Gifford
Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Sorry, no. On anything bigger than your personal mail >>> server, Qmail is going to require replacing with a modern MTA. >> >> There's a reason to not like it other than just djb-damage? > > Aside from DJB (which is big reason enou

Re: config mixer device for aumix

2006-09-08 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 00:06:53 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I upgraded from sarge to etch, and now console sound apps like > aumix and mp3blaster won't work (sound apps work fine in X). > During boot, the following message is displayed: > > "Restoring mixer settings: failed" > > If I r

Re: Problems with latest sid update - udev and other services not starting

2006-09-08 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:36:12 -0400, Scott Reese wrote: > Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > That might be caused by a missing S36udev-mtab link in rcS.d. > > > > The root of the problem seems to be a bug in sysv-rc, which made > > update-rc.d remove existing links in rcS.d. Details are in bug #38650

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Paul Scott
Albert Dengg wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 01:20:35PM +0200, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > >> I'm using Debian testing and I was thinking about switching to > unstable. Is > >> Debian unstable, stable enough for a Desktop system? Are there broken > >> dependencies in unstable? > Well...most often not

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread John Hasler
Jordi Carrillo writes: > You are forgetting the complicated dependency structure of Debian's > packages. When a new version of one of the big system components, like > Gnome, KDE or X enters unstable, it can take a few months for the > complete upgrade to propagate to testing. Thibaut Paumard writ

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-08 Thread Matej Cepl
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > maybe they should try courier, it is very similar to qmail I thought mainly about .qmail-* configuration files -- does courier uses them as well? Matěj -- 23 Marion St. #3, Cambridge, MA 02141, (617) 876-1259 http://matej.ceplovi.cz/blog/, map http://tinyurl.com

aptitude force removal

2006-09-08 Thread T
Hi I want to remove the bittorrent package, but I get: $ aptitude purge bittorrent The following packages will be REMOVED: bittorrent{p} The following packages have unmet dependencies: podracer: Depends: bittorrent but it is not installable Resolving dependencies... The following actions wil

Re: Beta-3 Etch install avoiding commandline?

2006-09-08 Thread Paul Scott
Christian Perrier wrote: > While a agree that having a GUI package installation tool installed > when one installs the desktop task is definitely something to have > (don't we have something?), I disagree about your "in the middle of an > install" comment. So far, the installer installs tasks from

Re: how to config font for jre 1.5 on sarge

2006-09-08 Thread José Alburquerque
Serena Cantor wrote: I download jre 1.5 from sun, and install it in /usr/local. In its lib directory, I find font config files for redhat, suse... but not sarge,so jre can't display Chinese. How can I add font config file for sarge? Thanks! __ Do

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-08 Thread Matej Cepl
Matej Cepl wrote: > Aside from DJB (which is big reason enough for me), the biggest reason why Just to elaborate on this -- I have no problems to believe that DJB is a genius, his IQ may be really enormous, but unfortunately he was hurt by the problem many geniuses are hurt as well -- communicatio

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Andrei Popescu wrote: > > I don't know too much about MTAs, but after your mail I > > find it strange that both my previous and current ISP use qmail. On 08.09.06 13:06, Matej Cepl wrote: > It USED to be the best alternative to sendmail (although I am not sure what > is older -- postfix or qmail

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
Thibaut Paumard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le vendredi 08 septembre 2006 à 13:20 +0200, Jordi Carrillo a écrit : > > I'm using Debian testing and I was thinking about switching to > > unstable. Is Debian unstable, stable enough for a Desktop system? Are > > there broken dependencies in unstable?

Re: copy debian form vmware to real pc

2006-09-08 Thread T
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:25:05 +0800, Yang wrote: > I want to copy the debian system form a vmware to > real pc! what should be done to make the copyed system work? simple, tar it up (the whole root fs) and untar in real pc environment. mind you, you need to re-configure all the devices

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 07.09.06 23:04, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thursday 07 September 2006 18:51, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: > > [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] > > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > qmail has the least Debian support, due to uninteresting > > >

squid + dansguardian

2006-09-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyone there using squid (2.6.3-1 unstable last version) and dansguardian (2.8.0.6-antivirus-6.3.8-1 unstable last version) without problems? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-08 Thread Matej Cepl
Andrei Popescu wrote: > I don't know too much about MTAs, but after your mail I > find it strange that both my previous and current ISP use qmail. It USED to be the best alternative to sendmail (although I am not sure what is older -- postfix or qmail) and now many huge installations of qmail are

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2006-09-08 14:39:34 +0200, Albert Dengg wrote: > one of the two machines running sarge at home does have some problems > (keeps muting the soundcard for some unknown reason)... > and last week a (security) update broke my system completly > (seems that the compute for some reason resartet right

Re: inetd or xinetd

2006-09-08 Thread T
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:12:48 +0200, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: >> ...I'd like to know whether >> inetd or xinetd is preferred for a *personal environment*. > > inetd is more than ok for a personal environment, why not also for a > professional setup. Thanks Ismael for the reply. I value ea

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another example of with quite annoying problems was the transition from > Xfree86 X.org. My keyboard layout had been changed from German to US and > X didn't start at all because it didn't find some fonts. If we are talking about unstable breakages I alw

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2006-09-08 13:58:15 +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Jordi Carrillo: > > > > I'm using Debian testing and I was thinking about switching to > > unstable. Is Debian unstable, stable enough for a Desktop system? > > No, if you rely on your system to be available 100% (time and function > wise). No,

Re: Debian Newbie looking for Usefull Tools

2006-09-08 Thread Miles Fidelman
Andrei Popescu wrote: The next release of Debian will *not* include Webmin. Unless you plan to stick with 3.1 (sarge) even after the release of 4.0 (etch), you will have to compile it yourself. How come? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-08 Thread Matej Cepl
Paul Johnson wrote: >> Sorry, no. On anything bigger than your personal mail >> server, Qmail is going to require replacing with a modern MTA. > > There's a reason to not like it other than just djb-damage? Aside from DJB (which is big reason enough for me), the biggest reason why I wouldn't tou

Re: sound q: is this possible?

2006-09-08 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 07.09.06 08:00, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: I record KUSC for 4 hours and edit the resulting file for pieces that I like: just select pieces of the original large file. aha. Is there a tool that will avoid that? I can see the problem already in snd: either the sou

Re: Michelle Konzack's sex (was: Email programs that work.)

2006-09-08 Thread Rob Sims
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 03:45:20PM +0200, Kim Christensen wrote: > On 9/8/06, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I do "know" Michelle from mutt-users, where I could swear I'd seen a > >post (from her) which referred to her as male. I remember > >specifically thinking that it was odd for a

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thibaut Paumard wrote: > Le vendredi 08 septembre 2006 à 15:57 +0200, Jochen Schulz a écrit : >> Jordi Carrillo: >>> If packages go from unstable to testing in just 10 days then it's not worth >>> going to unstable, is it? I mean, you can live in the b

Re: Windows, alas! (was: KDE being removed?)

2006-09-08 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-04 23:44:15, schrieb Owen Heisler: > This is a very ironic and hilarious topic. Every time I do some drive > changing in Linux (and when I'm done everything _just works_), I can't > help but think of trying something like that in Windows. Instead (with > Windows), you fight, fight, an

Re: Michelle Konzack's sex

2006-09-08 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-07 11:28:17, schrieb René Seindal: > Michelle, you know you're somebody when this kind of discussion pops up > about you. You've left your mark, apparently :-) Hey, I am not cupable! I have not started it. Maybe my name has an integrated right of way... (like the Mercedes automobils

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-09-08 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-05 09:37:57, schrieb Ismael Valladolid Torres: > Ron Johnson escribe: > > Good to know. For *big* .mbox.gz files, though, I'd still wonder > > about it's practicality. > > For me, mutt is as good reading big .mboz.gz files as reading big mbox > files. Don't know what are you considerin

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-09-08 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-05 01:04:38, schrieb s. keeling: > mutt has no trouble reading gzipped mboxes. :-) I am using courier-imap AND mutt It would be the hell, ich you have 200.000 messages from or over 350.000 messages from in a MAILBOX. Such things can only handled by Maildir Thanks, Greetings and ni

Re: Debian Newbie looking for Usefull Tools

2006-09-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
Phillipus Gunawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > Im a newbie at debian, just installing debian 31r0a from a DVD. I got an ADSL > connection with a crappy modem. Anyhow, I want to make a box that can do: > - Firewall (I was looking at ://www.turtlefirewall.com) Shorewall. No GUI, bu

Fwd: Bachelors, {}Masters, MBA and/or Doctorate (PhD)

2006-09-08 Thread Alan Bradshaw
In just 2 years you can have a masters degree from a national university. A better job, more income and a better life can all be yours in just 2 years. No books to buy, no classes to go to, and no entrance exams. Learn in your own home at your own pace. We supply all the study materials, all

Re: Beta-3 Etch install avoiding commandline?

2006-09-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
Chris Lale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marc Wilson wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 09:20:00AM +0100, Chris Lale wrote: > > > >> A totally gui install would make Debian feasible for a huge number of > >> home desktop users migrating from Windows. > >> > > > > Why? Why does a GUI instal

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
"Cameron L. Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > qmail has the least Debian support, due to uninteresting > > licensing issues, but has a large user community and excellent

Re: Traffic analyser

2006-09-08 Thread Justin Gallardo
I think what you want is not really a traffic analyzer but a log file parser for your http server (probably apache). Maybe take a look at awstats [1]. From the web site: I am gonna throw out the recommendation for Splunk(http://www.splunk.com) if you are looking to do log analysis. There

Re: Michelle Konzack's sex (was: Email programs that work.)

2006-09-08 Thread Kim Christensen
On 9/8/06, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do "know" Michelle from mutt-users, where I could swear I'd seen a post (from her) which referred to her as male. I remember specifically thinking that it was odd for a man to have the name Michelle. Obviously I was mistaken... FWIW, I work

Re: Problems with latest sid update - udev and other services not starting

2006-09-08 Thread Morten O. Hansen
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 11:36 -0400, Scott Reese wrote: > > Did the dpkg-reconfigure udev recreate two links for you in /etc/rcS.d > or just the S36udev-mtab link? If it created a udev link, what did that > look like? Hi again, I also got it working now, running "dpkg-reconfigure udev" two times

Re: Michelle Konzack's sex (was: Email programs that work.)

2006-09-08 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 11:08:25PM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 02:27:09AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > > > his first. Actually I think he did a fine job. > > > ^^^ ^^ > > > Do you know something I don't? I always thought that Michelle was

Re: Beta-3 Etch install avoiding commandline?

2006-09-08 Thread Zbigniew Wiech
"Unless the ncurses installer is *deficient* in some manner, the mere "GUI-ness" of the other installer does not enhance the installation in any way.  They both do exactly the same job in exactly the same way.  If they don't, then one or the other is broken. Someday there'll actually be a non-rel

Re: Please help

2006-09-08 Thread José Alburquerque
Vilches Martin wrote: Hello, first of all I have no idea about Debian but Im working on a pretty nice software base on Debian so I need to work on this J The software I use is Pluto Home, which is a home automation software. The thing is that I have a Dell touch screen which I use with my xp

Re: Openswan & ipmasq on Debian Testing

2006-09-08 Thread Prepaid
On 9/8/06, George Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello,You need to add some rules on the FORWARD chain, as well asenable forwarding in the kernel(echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward)Yes it did help, an easy way to fix the ipmasq for the routing table was just to copy the files in /usr/share/

Re: Openswan & ipmasq on Debian Testing

2006-09-08 Thread George Borisov
Prepaid wrote: > > With some fumbling around I was able to make it so that the host running > openswan was reachable via the VPN, I had to edit > /etc/ipmasq/rules/I10l.def and add: > $IPTABLES -A INPUT -j ACCEPT -i ipsec0 > $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -j ACCEPT -o ipsec0 > > > But now I'm at a

Re: SCIM On Debian sid

2006-09-08 Thread Rocky Ou
On 9/8/06, "Arne Götje (高盛華)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1> Well, now the problem is that I can input chinese in firefox but can not> input chinese in mozilla and other applications.>> Can any of you help me please? How do your environment variables GTK_IM

Re: Multiple RAID or encrypted partitions

2006-09-08 Thread Owen Heisler
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 00:32 +1000, Paul Dwerryhouse wrote: > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 05:43:36PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: > > I am wondering if there is any reason why the Debian installer doesn't > > allow multiple partitions in a RAID5 array > > Create a raid 5 array of the whole disk set and

Re: Problems with latest sid update - udev and other services not starting

2006-09-08 Thread Scott Reese
Florian Kulzer wrote: > That might be caused by a missing S36udev-mtab link in rcS.d. > > The root of the problem seems to be a bug in sysv-rc, which made > update-rc.d remove existing links in rcS.d. Details are in bug #386500. > > For me it was enough to run "dpkg-reconfigure udev" to have bot

Re: problem after apt-get upgrade (unstable)

2006-09-08 Thread Gerard Robin
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 01:48:19PM +0200, Dimitar Vukman wrote: From: Dimitar Vukman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: problem after apt-get upgrade (unstable) Organization: "Infinite Love Is The Only Truth, Everything Else Is Illusiion." X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread John Hasler
Jordi Carrillo writes: > If packages go from unstable to testing in just 10 days then it's not > worth going to unstable, is it? I mean, you can live in the bleeding edge > as well being in testing. They only go across in ten days when all dependencies are satisfied, there are no serious bugs, and

Re: debian unstable, stable enough?

2006-09-08 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le vendredi 08 septembre 2006 à 15:57 +0200, Jochen Schulz a écrit : > Jordi Carrillo: > > > > If packages go from unstable to testing in just 10 days then it's not worth > > going to unstable, is it? I mean, you can live in the bleeding edge as well > > being in testing. > > You are forgetting th

Re: Problems with latest sid update - udev and other services not starting

2006-09-08 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 16:40:47 +0200, Morten O. Hansen wrote: > > > I never paid close attention to where it was being started from before, > > so I don't know exactly where to put it back. As a quick fix, creating > > a symlink in /etc/rcS.d to ../init.d/udev at level 11: > > > > ln -s ../ini

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