Re: Picture Dictionaries

2006-04-28 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 09:51:13AM +0530, TAC Forums wrote: > Hi > > I wanted to order these products for my kids but realized that it > works only on the Mac or Windows. > > http://www.gentlerevolution.com/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=G&Category_Code=CDR > > Does anyone know how these can

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mumia W
Steve Lamb wrote: Mumia W wrote: Perhaps, Steve, you should have read this section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme#Are_national_retirement_programs_Ponzi_schemes.3F That section explains why national retirement schemes are *not* ponzi schemes. What makes you think I didn't.

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mumia W
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Mumia W wrote: What's not to love about Ben? He was an atheist too. Franklin? An athiest? I don't think so. [...] I stand corrected. I heard it someplace. Maybe it was about one of the other founding fathers, and I got it confused. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: Xorg upgrade: xdm fails, xterm can't change fonts?

2006-04-28 Thread Shawn Lamson
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 19:56:39 -0400 Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately, I still have problems with > xterm. For instance, colors don't work right. I get messages like "xterm: > cannot allocate color gray50". I tried rxvt, but it says 'rxvt: can't load > color "Black"' and fails

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Mumia W wrote: > Perhaps, Steve, you should have read this section: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme#Are_national_retirement_programs_Ponzi_schemes.3F > That section explains why national retirement schemes are *not* ponzi > schemes. What makes you think I didn't. I read the entir

Picture Dictionaries

2006-04-28 Thread TAC Forums
Hi I wanted to order these products for my kids but realized that it works only on the Mac or Windows. http://www.gentlerevolution.com/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=G&Category_Code=CDR Does anyone know how these can be run in Debian GNU/Linux or any other similar products available for Deb

Re: firewire

2006-04-28 Thread Jay Zach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Allison wrote: > Jay Zach wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Tom Allison wrote: >> >>> I have an Agere Systems FW323 chipset firewire card that I think should >>> work under linux based on some linux compatibility stuf

Re: Pinnacle PCTV Pro card

2006-04-28 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 05:36:29AM +0200, Benjamí Villoslada wrote: > A Divendres 28 Abril 2006 22:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] va escriure: > > Any chance that you need to wire the TV card up to a separate sound > > card? > > Yes, the TV+radio card is connected to the sound card (one external cable to

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mumia W
Wulfy wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: Wulfy wrote: Erm. What does "ponzi" mean? I can't find it in any of my dictionaries, so I assume it's American Slang... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme Thanks, Steve. Indeed, thanks Steve. Perhaps, Steve, you should have read this section: http

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > how exactly is my employee, who lost his job when his company > outsourced his job to the far east, being irresponsible? He was a > model employee, good time in, liked by all etc. Had two kids and a > wife. Now he's shlepping burgers for me and gets EIC. How exactly i

Re: Pinnacle PCTV Pro card

2006-04-28 Thread Benjamí Villoslada
A Divendres 28 Abril 2006 22:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] va escriure: > Any chance that you need to wire the TV card up to a separate sound > card? Yes, the TV+radio card is connected to the sound card (one external cable to the sound card audio in). For this reason I can ear one «clic clic clic» wh

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:18:57PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > Paul D. Smith wrote: > >What the GPL is all about is maximizing the amount of available free > >software (where "free" is defined by the traditional freedoms to > >examine, modify, and redistribute, as discussed on the FSF's web site).

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Chris Metzler
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:24:23 -0400 Chris Metzler wrote: > >On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:53:17 -0500 >Mike McCarty wrote: >> >> I claimed that you did not have a license, and you state that you did >> not. You used your employer's license, which, if you were doing work >> for your employer, is quite pro

LV Device Missing

2006-04-28 Thread Ian Petts
I'm fairly new to LVM, but I've been having an intermittant problem that I hope someone can help me with. Every few (2-10ish) reboots of my machine, my LV fails to be recognised. I'm running Debian Sid with: === 8< === [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ wajig status-match lvm Package Install

hw_random

2006-04-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
I am trying to get to the bottom of a 'FATAL' error that has appeared in my boot time messages ever since initial installation of my Etch system. The message concerned is: Fri Apr 28 22:10:53 2006: Detecting hardware...Discovered hardware for these modules: hw_random yenta_socket ohci1394 8139to

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Mumia W wrote: What's not to love about Ben? He was an atheist too. Sorry about the messed up attribution. Mumia did not write the "From"; Kent did. From http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/john_remsburg/six_historic_americans/chapter_4.html "In conversation wit

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Chris Metzler
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:53:17 -0500 Mike McCarty wrote: > > I claimed that you did not have a license, and you state that you did > not. You used your employer's license, which, if you were doing work > for your employer, is quite proper. If you were doing your own work, > then you probably used i

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Kent West
Mumia W wrote: What's not to love about Ben? He was an atheist too. From http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/john_remsburg/six_historic_americans/chapter_4.html "In conversation with familiar friends he called himself a Deist or Theist, and he resented a sentence in Mr. Whitefield's j

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 07:34:42PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 02:42:32PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > The short, short form is that EICs > > are issued for people being irresponsible (like, having kids while well > > below > > the poverty level), > > > how exa

Re: Offensive e-mail received

2006-04-28 Thread Chris Metzler
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:56:41 -0500 Mike McCarty wrote: > Leonid Grinberg wrote: > >> (c) Just ignore it. > > Err, I'd rather report it to the ISP of the originator, if it's > really truly patently and deliberately offensive. I did that > a day or so ago with one which had deliberately offensive >

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Mumia W wrote: > Andy Streich wrote: > >> On Friday 28 April 2006 08:34 pm, Mike McCarty wrote: >> >>> 'll respond to the very last sentence first. I don't know. But >>> you might ask Benjamin Franklin, because he put everything he >>> did into the Public Domain, and lobbied hard to have neither >

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 02:42:32PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > The short, short form is that EICs > are issued for people being irresponsible (like, having kids while well below > the poverty level), how exactly is my employee, who lost his job when his company outsourced his job to the far east,

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mumia W
Andy Streich wrote: On Friday 28 April 2006 08:34 pm, Mike McCarty wrote: 'll respond to the very last sentence first. I don't know. But you might ask Benjamin Franklin, because he put everything he did into the Public Domain, and lobbied hard to have neither Copyright nor Patent Law in the USA.

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Gene Heskett wrote: > So would I. But I'll be damned if I'll sit back and let them fix it by > breaking the promise I was made in 1947 when I got an SS card so I > could go to work the first time. If they can do it without upsetting > the systems results, then I'm pretty much all for it.

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Andy Streich wrote: > That does not seem accurate. Royalties from radio play and sales are > significant to many artists. The songwriter I heard said she makes $0.09 > (some sort of average figure) each time a song of hers is played on the radio > and that sort of income was essential for her

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mumia W
Steve Lamb wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: You know nothing of my party or it's politics. Socialists are progressive, not conservative. Socialists are thieves who pass off their practice under a veneer of intellectual doublespeak. No, Republicans are not the least bit socialist. They're anti

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 28 April 2006 20:00, Steve Lamb wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> The pols of course. They are the ones who set this ponzi scheme, >> one that would jail you or I for an extended period if we were >> caught doing it. > >Then your aim is off. They are supposed to answer to the > populat

Re: New user need some help

2006-04-28 Thread Magnus Therning
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 11:44:21AM -0500, anoop aryal wrote: >On Thursday 27 April 2006 02:47, Magnus Therning wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:57:41AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> >On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:46:52PM -0400, Terry wrote: >> >> I just loaded my first Linux machine. It laod

Re: firewire

2006-04-28 Thread Tom Allison
Jay Zach wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Allison wrote: I have an Agere Systems FW323 chipset firewire card that I think should work under linux based on some linux compatibility stuff I found on the internet. For the most part it does. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod | g

Re: etch and several problems

2006-04-28 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 02:44:51AM +0300, Andrius A__trauskas wrote: > (I also deleted normal user account and directory and created it again > before editing xorg.conf - don't know if it's necessary). That should rarely be necessary to get something working, but creating a new user and trying

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Andy Streich
On Friday 28 April 2006 03:34 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: > Andy Streich wrote: > > Just the other day I was watching a Senate > > hearing where a songwriter was saying she could not make a living without > > the copyright and IPR laws. And I've wondered a long time about how the > > economy might have

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Gene Heskett wrote: > The pols of course. They are the ones who set this ponzi scheme, one > that would jail you or I for an extended period if we were caught doing > it. Then your aim is off. They are supposed to answer to the population so your beef is with me. > But thats not my proble

Re: etch and several problems

2006-04-28 Thread Andrius A__trauskas
I had the same problem with my keyboard today. Don't know what's exactly the reason, but you can fix it by adding layouts manually. Read /etc/xkb/x11/README.config and edit keyboard section of /etc/x11/xorg.conf - add layouts and switches. (I also deleted normal user account and directory and crea

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 28 April 2006 17:42, Steve Lamb wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> Are you saying that the social security I get every month is somehow >> free? > >To you? Sure is. Social Security is the only legal ponzi scam > allowed in the US. Your Social Security payments are paid by present > day

Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay

2006-04-28 Thread Rob Sims
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 02:54:31PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 12 April 2006 12:41, Barbara Oncay wrote: > > I have been trying to unsubscribe with no success. > > I have sent more than 10 e-mails with no response. > > I have used the cancel link but it only sends me to a link where I

Re: GNOME V. KDE (was Re: New user need some help

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
John Stumbles wrote: > Since my first experience with GNOME was of the apps bundled with it > that rather put me off. Now that I know what I want to use (e.g. k3b) I > could probably get along with GNOME if I had to. However since I'm now > reasonably familar with KDE it'd be a learning curve to ge

etch and several problems

2006-04-28 Thread lostson
Hello I have done a fresh install of etch today and once installed I did a apt-get update then apt-get upgrade. Set up the whole system like I like it and then rebooted. Got to the Begin root file something in the boot process and it froze eventually dropped me into some type of useless bash

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Wulfy
Steve Lamb wrote: Wulfy wrote: Erm. What does "ponzi" mean? I can't find it in any of my dictionaries, so I assume it's American Slang... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme Thanks, Steve. -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Wulfy wrote: > Erm. What does "ponzi" mean? I can't find it in any of my > dictionaries, so I assume it's American Slang... > "Divided by a common language..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Erik Persson wrote: > As stated earlier, the BSD-licence requires, among other things, that: > 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright > notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. > 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyrigh

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Andy Streich wrote: > Just the other day I was watching a Senate > hearing where a songwriter was saying she could not make a living without the > copyright and IPR laws. And I've wondered a long time about how the economy > might have to change if there were no IPR. The idea has appeal in so

Re: using apt-listbugs

2006-04-28 Thread Paul Scott
Stephen R Laniel wrote: On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:30:35AM -0400, Rick Reynolds wrote: But attacking this problem from another angle: I'm assuming it's not a good idea to do an upgrade from within X. Is that accurate? If I ran the upgrade within an xterm window, I'd probably not have this

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Erik Persson
Steve Lamb wrote: Christopher Nelson wrote: My biggest problem with BSD-style licenses is that someone can take your work, use it, and then restrict other's access to their improvements. So the GPL restricts their freedom to do just that. That has been my main point from the onset. It is

Re: Solved: Setting keyboard preferences in Gnome (etch) makes system hang up and prevents loging in from GDM

2006-04-28 Thread Andrius
Forget my previous e-mail. Added the layouts and toggle key manualy to xorg.conf, it works now. On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:19:27 +0300 Andrius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > After recent etch upgrade (27 April, Mark all upgrades -> Apply in > Synaptic) I could not log in from GDM as a

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Wulfy
Steve Lamb wrote: the only legal ponzi scam Erm. What does "ponzi" mean? I can't find it in any of my dictionaries, so I assume it's American Slang... "Divided by a common language..." -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play w

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Paul D. Smith
%% Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> What the GPL is all about is maximizing the amount of available free >> software (where "free" is defined by the traditional freedoms to >> examine, modify, and redistribute, as discussed on the FSF's web site). >> That goal means that some in

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Andy Streich
On Friday 28 April 2006 08:34 pm, Mike McCarty wrote: > 'll respond to the very last sentence first. I don't know. But > you might ask Benjamin Franklin, because he put everything he > did into the Public Domain, and lobbied hard to have neither > Copyright nor Patent Law in the USA. He lost his ba

Re: How do you grow brocolli?

2006-04-28 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: George H. W. Bush made the famous campaign promise: Read my lips: no new taxes! Dan Quayle was his VP, and famously misspelled "potatoe". 1. The spelling card Quayle was holding, given to him by the school authorities putting on the spelling bee, had the "e" on the wor

Re: Reiser just bit me! (was: Comparison of filesystems)

2006-04-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 04:23:08PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > Upgrade it. You can just use a remount with -oconvert on the filesystem. > > Then you should be able to read the file. > > I experienced this problem with a named pipe into a file. I didn't > realize it until I had already deleted

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Gene Heskett wrote: > Are you saying that the social security I get every month is somehow > free? To you? Sure is. Social Security is the only legal ponzi scam allowed in the US. Your Social Security payments are paid by present day workers. Your withholdings were spent as you earned th

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Andy Streich
On Friday 28 April 2006 08:18 pm, Mike McCarty wrote: > [snip] > > >   mm> If the fit is good, then fine. For me, the fit is not good, so I > >   mm> don't use it. For people who try to make a living writing > >   mm> software, who are not members of the idle rich, and who cannot > >   mm> afford t

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Christopher Nelson wrote: > My biggest problem with BSD-style licenses is that someone can take your > work, use it, and then restrict other's access to their improvements. So the GPL restricts their freedom to do just that. That has been my main point from the onset. It is not free. It is

Re: Trouble with some X applications.

2006-04-28 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 21:03 +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Hi, > > After an upgrade of my system some days ago I found some (in words two) > programms not working. The first ist gkrellm and the second is > nvidia-settings. > > The effect is that when I try to start them they will hang. strace says

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 28 April 2006 15:29, Steve Lamb wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> Well, he could, because its worse than that, 1% of the people here >> control 90% of the wealth according to some figures I heard on >> C-SPAN tonight in congressional testimony. Thats not right, and its >> sure not a democra

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mike McCarty
Christopher Nelson wrote: On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:18:57PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: You are looking at this incorrectly. The FSF isn't against anyone making money. There are many ways to make money on software that does NOT involve using a proprietary license. Umm, do you presume to

Re: How do you grow brocolli?

2006-04-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 15:39 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > Matt Johnson wrote: > > > > - Original Message > > From: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Sent: Tuesday, 25 April, 2006 2:18:25 PM > > Subject: Re: How do you grow brocolli? > > > > On Tue, 2

Re: Pinnacle PCTV Pro card

2006-04-28 Thread hendrik
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 07:09:35AM +0200, Benjam? Villoslada wrote: > I've moved the TV and radio "Pinnacle PCTV Pro card" from the SUSE computer > to > the new box with Debian Sid, but doesn't works: I get no sound. > > With KRadio one "click, click, click" is audible when I move the radio dial

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 01:40:44PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Christopher Nelson wrote: > > With Free software, you have the right to modify, pass along code, fork, > > distribute, and feed upstream. The only restriction on those rights is > > that with GPL and similiar you grant them to others. >

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mike McCarty
Paul Johnson wrote: On Friday 28 April 2006 12:24, Steve Lamb wrote: Yes, and that's why the largest government programs in history have been enacted by a Republican controlled Congress with a sitting Republican President. Roosevelt was a Republican in name only and nobody disagrees with

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mike McCarty
Steve Lamb wrote: Christopher Nelson wrote: With Free software, you have the right to modify, pass along code, fork, distribute, and feed upstream. The only restriction on those rights is that with GPL and similiar you grant them to others. And there's the rub, innit. The only restrict

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:18:57PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > >You are looking at this incorrectly. The FSF isn't against anyone > >making money. There are many ways to make money on software that does > >NOT involve using a proprietary license. > > Umm, do you presume to speak for the FSF?

Re: Reiser just bit me! (was: Comparison of filesystems)

2006-04-28 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 20:49 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: > > > > > >P.S. to include something relevent to the original thread, I have > > >use both Reiserfs and Ext3, and have never found enough performance > > >or reliability difference to worry about - so for me the main > > >advantges of each are

Re: Reiser just bit me! (was: Comparison of filesystems)

2006-04-28 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 20:49 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: > > > > > >P.S. to include something relevent to the original thread, I have > > >use both Reiserfs and Ext3, and have never found enough performance > > >or reliability difference to worry about - so for me the main > > >advantges of each are:

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Christopher Nelson wrote: > With Free software, you have the right to modify, pass along code, fork, > distribute, and feed upstream. The only restriction on those rights is > that with GPL and similiar you grant them to others. And there's the rub, innit. The only restriction means that you

Re: How do you grow brocolli?

2006-04-28 Thread Mike McCarty
Matt Johnson wrote: - Original Message From: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, 25 April, 2006 2:18:25 PM Subject: Re: How do you grow brocolli? On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 17:09 +0700, Ali Milis wrote: How do you grow brocolli? Read My Lips:

Re: How do you grow brocolli?

2006-04-28 Thread Mike McCarty
Matt Johnson wrote: - Original Message From: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, 28 April, 2006 4:03:10 AM Subject: Re: How do you grow brocolli? And forks, and bricks, and baseball bats, and hockey sticks, and pencils, and pens, and wrenches

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mike McCarty
Andy Streich wrote: On Thursday 27 April 2006 09:05 pm, Mike McCarty wrote: You seem very angry that someone doesn't like GPL. If you want to make your software free, then do so. But don't hamper the freedom of those to whom you give it. And don't live under the illusion that GPL'd software is

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 12:32:11PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Christopher Nelson wrote: > > Okay. The DFSG are more supportive of developer's rights. > > Again, not true. How exactly is a developer who releases under a non-DSFG > license somehow lower on the totem pole of rights? Both prote

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 28 April 2006 12:24, Steve Lamb wrote: > Yes, and that's why the largest government programs in history have > been enacted by a Republican controlled Congress with a sitting Republican > President. Roosevelt was a Republican in name only and nobody disagrees with that. -- Paul Jo

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mike McCarty
Paul D. Smith wrote: %% Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: mm> Isn't that one of the claims of most people who support the use of mm> the GPL? That, since everyone just labors on it for love, or mm> whatever, and that the source is available, then the quality will mm> be better? I

Re: daylight saving time

2006-04-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 28 April 2006 11:19, Joris Huizer wrote: > How does one setup debian to automatically account for "daylight saving > time"? Debian does this automatically by default. Make sure you answer the questions regarding how your clock is set and where you are located during installation, or r

Re: how to test Ethernet connection

2006-04-28 Thread John Stumbles
Nate Duehr wrote: The newbies don't remember bridges. You're going to be here for a while explaining it if you're in the mood to teach. Some of us remember when you needed them to break up a too-busy LAN into segments... Yup: a very expensive box connected via D15 cables to transceivers l

Re: How to figure out if a package repository index has been updated.

2006-04-28 Thread Alex Polite
On 4/28/06, James Westby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Isn't there a checksum for all the Packages.gz in the Release file? That's it. Thanks a bunch. alex -- Alex Polite http://flosspick.org - finding the right open source

Reiser just bit me! (was: Comparison of filesystems)

2006-04-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
> > > >P.S. to include something relevent to the original thread, I have > >use both Reiserfs and Ext3, and have never found enough performance > >or reliability difference to worry about - so for me the main > >advantges of each are: > > ext3 - more complere set of tools, such as dump/restore

Re: Canon Ixus 55 on GNU/Linux?

2006-04-28 Thread Adam Funk
On 2006-04-28, chris roddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Recent Canons usually use a special protocol, called PTP (picture transfer protocol) to communicate with a computer. AFAIK, this is also true for Ixus 55. Install gphoto2 to download pictures from your camera. >>> Interestin

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mike McCarty
Steve Lamb wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Well, he could, because its worse than that, 1% of the people here control 90% of the wealth according to some figures I heard on C-SPAN tonight in congressional testimony. Thats not right, and its sure not a democracy. Of course it's not a democr

Re: how to test Ethernet connection

2006-04-28 Thread John Stumbles
Nate Duehr wrote: The newbies don't remember bridges. You're going to be here for a while explaining it if you're in the mood to teach. How about: http://www.erg.abdn.ac.uk/users/gorry/course/lan-pages/bridge.html Some of us remember when you needed them to break up a too-busy LAN into segm

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mike McCarty
Steve Lamb wrote: Christopher Nelson wrote: Okay. The DFSG are more supportive of developer's rights. Again, not true. How exactly is a developer who releases under a non-DSFG license somehow lower on the totem pole of rights? Both protect the developer's rights. Both describe exactl

Re: How to figure out if a package repository index has been updated.

2006-04-28 Thread James Westby
On (28/04/06 21:33), Alex Polite wrote: > I'm rewriting flosspick.org and learning Ruby on Rails at the same time. > > dpkg-ruby doesn't take debtags into account so I need to write my own > stuff. One thing I'm trying to figure out is how one can know > whether a Packages.gz file in a repositor

Re: GNOME V. KDE (was Re: New user need some help

2006-04-28 Thread chris roddy
Magnus Therning wrote: > - Nautilus, and yes, I use the spatial layout which probably means I'm >in minority among Gnomistas. I too prefer the spatial Nautilus. With my left hand riding the shift key and right hand on the mouse, it's as fast as using the shell for many common tasks. cmr

How to figure out if a package repository index has been updated.

2006-04-28 Thread Alex Polite
I'm rewriting flosspick.org and learning Ruby on Rails at the same time. dpkg-ruby doesn't take debtags into account so I need to write my own stuff. One thing I'm trying to figure out is how one can know whether a Packages.gz file in a repository has changed since you last downloaded it *with

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Paul D. Smith
%% Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: mm> Isn't that one of the claims of most people who support the use of mm> the GPL? That, since everyone just labors on it for love, or mm> whatever, and that the source is available, then the quality will mm> be better? I don't know about what

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Christopher Nelson wrote: > Okay. The DFSG are more supportive of developer's rights. Again, not true. How exactly is a developer who releases under a non-DSFG license somehow lower on the totem pole of rights? Both protect the developer's rights. Both describe exactly what is and is not a

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Gene Heskett wrote: > Well, he could, because its worse than that, 1% of the people here > control 90% of the wealth according to some figures I heard on C-SPAN > tonight in congressional testimony. Thats not right, and its sure not > a democracy. Of course it's not a democracy. Anyone wh

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > You know nothing of my party or it's politics. Socialists are progressive, > not conservative. Socialists are thieves who pass off their practice under a veneer of intellectual doublespeak. > No, Republicans are not the least bit socialist. They're anti-public > heal

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mike McCarty
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: I was just going to pass this over, but you have requested that I reply, so I will. [snip included stuff] Mike, as I explained in another message, I used the software legally. If I claimed that you did not have a license, and you state that you did not. You used y

Re: PPP Problem (Timeout LCP ConfReq)

2006-04-28 Thread Leonardo Guardati
I had a very similar problem on the LCP negotiation, and solved adding "SLIP support" on the kernel... It seems that pppd can't recognize LCP packets from the other end because they are compressed using CSLIP. Hope it could help you. Bye Leonardo -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis

Re: how to test Ethernet connection

2006-04-28 Thread Wackojacko
Mike McCarty wrote: Back in the bad old days, it was common to have cross over adapters for RS232 equipment. But I can't recall having seen a cross over adapter for the 100 Base T stuff. Mike I mentioned this earlier in the thread, because this is exactly what I used on my home network origi

Re: swap and /tmp

2006-04-28 Thread Dennis Stosberg
Digby Tarvin wrote: > I am thinking of using a tmpfs for /tmp, and would be interested > to hear any thoughts that others have on this issue. I use tmpfs for /tmp on all of my machines and have so far not found a good reason why I should not. > Obviously it would mean that /tmp would be volatil

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Paul Scott
Gene Heskett wrote: No, Republicans are not the least bit socialist. They're anti-public healthcare, anti-public education, and think laissez-faire economics benefits everyone instead of just the richest 3% that control 80% of the country's wealth. Republicans are pretty much the Socialist anti

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Andy Streich
On Thursday 27 April 2006 09:05 pm, Mike McCarty wrote: > You seem very angry that someone doesn't like GPL. If you want > to make your software free, then do so. But don't hamper the > freedom of those to whom you give it. And don't live under > the illusion that GPL'd software is free. Mike, sur

Setting keyboard preferences in Gnome (etch) makes system hang up and prevents loging in from GDM

2006-04-28 Thread Andrius
Hello all, After recent etch upgrade (27 April, Mark all upgrades -> Apply in Synaptic) I could not log in from GDM as a normal user, however could log in as root from GDM, and could log in as a normal user from console. The problem is related to keyboard layout. After I've deleted a normal user

daylight saving time

2006-04-28 Thread Joris Huizer
Hello, How does one setup debian to automatically account for "daylight saving time"? Here In Holland the dates at which the hour time change occurs are fixed; (This computer has also a Windows install, though one that isn't used often; Windows sets up the clock, linux ignores it) Thanks, Jo

Cher Monsieur.

2006-04-28 Thread Thierry Henry.
Cher Monsieur, Que la Paix du Seigneur soit avec vous. Je suis Thierry Henry et je suis anime par la volonte de Dieu avous assister financierement. Je sais que vous etes surpris comment j'ai pu avoir votre adresse.Un frere m'a parle de vos bonnes oeuvres,puisse Dieu vous benisse au Nom de Jesus-C

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mike McCarty
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 09:31:19PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:53:25PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: There are employers who tolerate this kind of thing, even encourage it to a limited extent. I've spoke to managers w

Re: Slightly OT: Re: Offensive e-mail received

2006-04-28 Thread Josh Battles
On Fri, April 28, 2006 11:09 am, Martin A. Brooks wrote: > Jan Schledermann wrote: >> Before you slip out of the generous mood, I'd like to receive an invite for >> gmail from you (on the obfuscated email at the bottom of this posting) > > If anyone else needs a gmail invite, please ask. I have do

Re: Social Contract

2006-04-28 Thread Mike McCarty
Mumia W wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: [...] I do not and have not claimed ever that Linux+GNU hamper anyone's freedom. How can an OS hamper anyone's freedom? It seems an impossibility to me. Mike There you go again--bearing false witness--this time to your own words: Look, if I make a mistak

Re: daylight savings error on reboot

2006-04-28 Thread Matthias Julius
"Matt Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I believe my system clock is set to UTC, and I don't have any other OS > operating on the system. If your system clock is set to UTC it should never be changed for daylight savings time. If it is changed on every boot than you system probably doesn't kn

Re: New user need some help

2006-04-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 09:15:05PM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote: > > > > or for the more hardcore people/weaker machines/those who like a responsive > window manager that can look as good if not better then the former two > > aptitude install x-window-system fvwm wdm > or > aptitude install x-windo

Re: daylight savings error on reboot

2006-04-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 08:31:48AM -0400, Matt Price wrote: > Hi Folks, [snip] > > Apr 11 22:12:09 anarres kernel: Real Time Clock Driver v1.12 > Apr 20 07:17:36 anarres postfix/cleanup[1599]: warning: file system > clock is 3568 seconds ahead of local clock > Apr 21 07:00:03 anarres postfix/qmgr

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