possible mb burn out: urgent question

2005-09-23 Thread steef
hi all, is it possible to harm a motherboard (asus A8V deluxe) AGP 8x, *1,5 volt* with a nvidia geforce videocard FX5700, working on a voltage of 1,1: *1,1 volt* ?? (bought my son a brand-new asus_mb with a fast athlon64 processor: he is a gamer) an answer would be highly appreciated! s

cups problem

2005-09-23 Thread L.V.Gandhi
I have debian sarge with all updates. I have cups installed. Using http://localhost:631 I can configure and print in ff. But when I try to access printers in control center, I get message Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager: Connection to CUPS server failed. Che

Horizontal and Vertical Refresh rates for 15.4 inch Wide-Screen

2005-09-23 Thread David R. Litwin
I recently acquired a laptop with an LCD 15.4 wide-screen display with resolution of 1280 x 800 and 60MHz refresh rate. I have googled and have not come up with the answer to this question: What are the Horizontal and Vertical Refresh Rates for this screen? I need to know so that when I set it to t

Printer

2005-09-23 Thread Kenneth P. Turvey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm running Debian unstable and I connect to a wireless network on which there is a Windows XP box that has an HP PSC 750 connected to it. I would like to be able to use this printer to print web pages and PDF documents from my computer. A few yea

Re: Jabber

2005-09-23 Thread Kenneth P. Turvey
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:10:13 +0200, Chuck Payne wrote: > Hi, > > I have jabber install but can't seem to connect. Does anyone know > if/where there is a website talks about getting jabber working on > Debian. Are you just trying to get a client to work, or a server? The client should "just wo

Re: Computer Name

2005-09-23 Thread Kent West
Paul Johnson wrote: >On Friday 23 September 2005 01:56 pm, Redefined Horizons wrote: > > >>Debian Users, >> I thought that the host name of my Debian box was the same as my computer >>name, but I just learned that they are not the same. How do I set the >>computer name, and what is the differenc

Re: 4ol 4rt files:

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 23 September 2005 07:57 pm, John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > Please do not follow up to the parent. Doing so will create more Google > > hits and cause more of these lost souls to bombard us with their > > questions. > > Paul Johnson writes: > > So why do you do it? It's the first foll

Re: about xpdf font?

2005-09-23 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 10:49:04PM +0800, Melancholy Werther wrote: > I don't know how to manage this problem, if I need install another font > package or setting the .xpdfrc You know, xpdf's man page *does* describe exactly how to configure the fonts it uses. -- Marc Wilson | Mad, adj.:

Re: 4ol 4rt files:

2005-09-23 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Please do not follow up to the parent. Doing so will create more Google > hits and cause more of these lost souls to bombard us with their questions. Paul Johnson writes: > So why do you do it? It's the first followup that starts a thread, after all. Read the subject line. Do you se

Re: upgrade problem

2005-09-23 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Hi Kai, more useful or compact than apt-cache show would be $ apt-cache policy perl However you apt-cache show seems to indicate you have a sarge/sid mix. Since apt-get install perl indicates your perl is up-to-date for your default release, I don't see why apt-get upgrade would be upgrading it

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 23 September 2005 07:54 pm, Pollywog wrote: > Maybe I am doing something wrong ;) Or you have a short attention span. :o) When I'm at work, I've become so accustomed to KDE that Windows is painful to use, largely due to the lack of Konqueror and Kontact. Explorer's a buggy, insecure

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Pollywog
On 09/24/2005 02:43 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 23 September 2005 07:14 am, Fritz Brown wrote: > > > Please read the Debian Reference. One of the main reasons to use > > > Debian is to use software packaged from Debian repositories rather than > > > downloading generic binaries and source.

Re: 4ol 4rt files:

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 23 September 2005 10:39 am, John Hasler wrote: > Please do not follow up to the parent. Doing so will create more Google > hits and cause more of these lost souls to bombard us with their questions. So why do you do it? It's the first followup that starts a thread, after all. pgpFdVQ

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 23 September 2005 07:14 am, Fritz Brown wrote: > > Please read the Debian Reference. One of the main reasons to use Debian > > is to use software packaged from Debian repositories rather than > > downloading generic binaries and source. > > Which may explain why I am having trouble under

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 23 September 2005 08:23 am, Antony Gelberg wrote: > Albert wrote: > > michael wrote: > > > > > >> and insults don't generally inspire people to respond in a helpful > >> manner, but then you prob knew that already ;) > > > > Insults? I only responded in kind to Antony, who believes answ

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 23 September 2005 07:36 am, Albert wrote: > kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > > > > While I agree that it is kinda spoon feeding, RTFM is generally not > > encouraged on this list. My take on this is that give the newbie a head > > start and he will pick the ropes much faster. Debian already

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 23 September 2005 06:44 am, root wrote: > On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 14:09 +0100, Antony Gelberg wrote: > > Albert wrote: > > > I am a new user of Debian. My first task after system install is to > > > install Firefox and Tbird, preferably the latest 1.0.6 or 1.0.7. It's > > > a piece of cak

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 23 September 2005 05:58 am, Albert wrote: > I am a new user of Debian. My first task after system install is > to install Firefox and Tbird, preferably the latest 1.0.6 or > 1.0.7. It's a piece of cake to download and install these from > the mozilla site, but I have no idea how I might

Re: watching an avi

2005-09-23 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 03:58:05PM -0100, p wrote: > On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 07:48:26PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > __deletia__ > > > Sometimes xine runs but the display window remains black and the > > sound plays fine. > > __deletia__ > > when that happens to me, i just double click xine's

Re: watching an avi

2005-09-23 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 01:01:24AM -0700, Basajaun wrote: > Rick Pasotto wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 04:42:14PM -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 07:48:26PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > > > System: > > > > KM4M-V motherboard with onboard video using via

Re: [Fwd: Re: Responses to the list]

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 23 September 2005 11:48 am, Mike McCarty wrote: > CRAP! Another one I had to pull from my sent > and forward. Yes, it's a known bug in Thunderbird. Bugzilla numbers are posted in the archives, vote for them and/or submit a patch. pgphfXjKd5reo.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: watching an avi

2005-09-23 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 09:25:42PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > Rick Pasotto on 18/09/05 17:18, wrote: > >On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 04:58:17PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > > > >>how does totem run? > > > > > >I don't have it installed. I'm not going to install it since doing so > >would REMOVE: gnome-app

reboot with fsck and bad block check

2005-09-23 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Does shutdown -rF also include a bad block check? I'm guessing it doesn't, but I can't find any information online on how to tell it to do a bad block check also. I did find in /etc/default/rcS a setting to send -y to fsck, but nothing that would indicate any reason it needs -y. Angelo --

Re: Responses to the list

2005-09-23 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 18:10:31 +0100 Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you are upset about all the clicking and window changing, perhaps > you should consider a console-based mail client. Or even a GUI client that is compliant such as Sylpheed-claws. Cybe R. Wizard -- "Well, let's ju

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Antony Gelberg wrote: Angelo Bertolli wrote: Albert wrote: michael wrote: and insults don't generally inspire people to respond in a helpful manner, but then you prob knew that already ;) Insults? I only responded in kind to Antony, who believes answering a newbi

Re: time seen at top of /var/log/boot

2005-09-23 Thread Alan Ianson
On Tue September 20 2005 06:11 pm, Dan Jacobson wrote: > It's the time seen in the beginning of /var/log/boot that bugs me, why > is it GMT+16 hours? Is that the time the kernel was built? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL P

Re: Panda, Beware!

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 23 September 2005 01:03 pm, Wm Stanley wrote: > Yes, > > I have used Panda Anti-virus software for several years now and had paid > for two more that will Never be used! Why? Because their otherwise > excellent programs were impossible to reconcile with Windows XP, to which I > recently

Re: Computer Name

2005-09-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 23 September 2005 01:56 pm, Redefined Horizons wrote: > Debian Users, > I thought that the host name of my Debian box was the same as my computer > name, but I just learned that they are not the same. How do I set the > computer name, and what is the difference between the two? Sometime

Re: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread Joe Smith
Mike said: Threading is based on message IDs. The mailer threads properly. The message ID should not change based on whom the message is sent AFAICT, so who is in the reply feild does not really matter. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troubl

Re: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread Joe Smith
"John Hasler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Joe Smith writes: Rember that email was not designed for threading. Threading was what newsgroups were invented for. No. News was invented to reduce traffic. There used to be a rule of thumb on how large a mailing-

Re: Jabber

2005-09-23 Thread Björn Lindström
Fred OGrady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On the same line, I installed the jabber server on my box. Now what? > I know I need a client, but I can't figure out what to "aptitude > install" for a jabber client. I run gaim, for internet chat, but that > doesn't have anything to do with my jabber s

Re: Jabber

2005-09-23 Thread Joe Smith
Fred OGrady Said: On the same line, I installed the jabber server on my box. Now what? I know I need a client, but I can't figure out what to "aptitude install" for a jabber client. I run gaim, for internet chat, but that doesn't have anything to do with my jabber server. can anyone fill m

Re: Jabber

2005-09-23 Thread Fred OGrady
On 9/23/05, Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chuck Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> I have jabber install but can't seem to connect. Does anyone know> if/where there is a website talks about getting jabber working on > Debian.Do you just want to chat? Then you don't need to have jabber

RE: unable to install from CD: failure to mount once kernel installed

2005-09-23 Thread Seth Goodman
> From: Seth Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 4:45 PM <...> > eject is not there, nor are its man pages. I installed the eject package > and now "eject -r" works, as does the gnome eject command! Looks > like this is a third bug to report Wrong! My bad. Th

time seen at top of /var/log/boot

2005-09-23 Thread Dan Jacobson
(Was Re: why early boot timezone so east?) What is the time of the beginning part of your /var/log/boot, as compared to the latter part of your /var/log/boot, as compared with your local time, as compared to the time in your BIOS setup menu. Mine is GMT+16, GMT+8, GMT+8, GMT+8. On my two unconnect

RE: Responses to the list

2005-09-23 Thread Seth Goodman
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Antony Gelberg > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 12:11 PM <...> > Another option for those who don't like the list policy is to become > Debian Developers and change the policy. What an appealing offer. In other words, non-developers need not express thei

Re: NUM Lock , Home, End

2005-09-23 Thread Marty
John Hasler wrote: Marty writes: Some init scripts use configation files in /etc/default, and I guess the script's stop routine could store the NUMLOCK state upon system shutdown, if that state is accessable from the system. That would set it globally, not for each user. I agree, and I see t

Re: NUM Lock , Home, End

2005-09-23 Thread John Hasler
Bozhan Boiadzhiev writes: > huh what window manager i didn't use X at all Then you'll want to patch all the shells. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread John Hasler
Joe Smith writes: > Rember that email was not designed for threading. Threading was what > newsgroups were invented for. No. News was invented to reduce traffic. There used to be a rule of thumb on how large a mailing-list should get before it was replaced by a newsgroup. > This is supposed to

Re: More than 2, but less than 3 GiB per process memory?

2005-09-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 10:43:40AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 14:45 +0200, Malte Cornils wrote: > > Hello, > > > > we've been trying to make a program (ITK/VTK image processing for a > > university > > project) work. Unfortunately, the process needs slightly above 2 GiB of

RE: unable to install from CD: failure to mount once kernel installed

2005-09-23 Thread Seth Goodman
> From: Mike McCarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 3:26 PM <...> > It looks like either you don't have eject installed, it is installed in > the wrong place, your PATH is incorrect, or Gnome is pointing to the > wrong place. What happens if you insert a CDROM into t

Re: Responses to the list

2005-09-23 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Mike McCarty wrote: Doesn't T-bird have a "Reply to list" option? It does NOT. Neither Thunderbird has the reply to list button nor there is an extension which enables this behavior. I have composed a list of email clients which do/do not have this feature. The list can be found at h

Re: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread Mike McCarty
Joe Smith wrote: "Mike McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ron Johnson wrote: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Using what he recommends ruins threaded reading, because the reply goes to the originator of the message, and the list gets CCd.

Re: Panda, Beware!

2005-09-23 Thread Mike McCarty
Angelo Bertolli wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: Wm Stanley wrote: Yes, And this is related to Debian? How? I believe it's related to improving spamassassin's filter. Thanks OP for the sample! :-) I wonder whether it was a troll/mining operation for e-mail addresses. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%

Re: Shutdown missing from GNOME "Actions" menu....

2005-09-23 Thread Mike McCarty
Redefined Horizons wrote: Debian Users, I recently completed my first install of a dual-boot box with Debian Sarge and Windows XP. Congratulations! However, on my first solo Debian Sarge box I had "Reboot" and "Shutdown" options on the "Actions" menu of my Gnome desktop. Is there a setting

Re: Shutdown missing from GNOME "Actions" menu....

2005-09-23 Thread Cameron Matheson
Hi, Redefined Horizons wrote: Debian Users, I recently completed my first install of a dual-boot box with Debian Sarge and Windows XP. However, on my first solo Debian Sarge box I had "Reboot" and "Shutdown" options on the "Actions" menu of my Gnome desktop. Is there a setting that contr

Re: Install USB mouse, lose keyboard

2005-09-23 Thread Mike McCarty
Mike McCarty wrote: Was it too long? Subject not descriptive enough? No interest? Forgot to copy the list? Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't

Adding system memory to graphics video...

2005-09-23 Thread Javier-Elias Vasquez-Vivas
Hi, I have an old system with graphics integrated in the mother board. The graphics chipset includes 4 MB of memory. I attached 512 MB of RAM to the mother board, so I have 512 MB of system memory. I'd like to dedicate 32 MB from system memory to graphics memory so that I can reach ~36 MB of vi

Computer Name

2005-09-23 Thread Redefined Horizons
Debian Users,   I thought that the host name of my Debian box was the same as my computer name, but I just learned that they are not the same. How do I set the computer name, and what is the difference between the two?   Thanks,   Scott Huey

Shutdown missing from GNOME "Actions" menu....

2005-09-23 Thread Redefined Horizons
Debian Users,   I recently completed my first install of a dual-boot box with Debian Sarge and Windows XP.   However, on my first solo Debian Sarge box I had "Reboot" and "Shutdown" options on the "Actions" menu of my Gnome desktop. Is there a setting that controls wether these options appear, and

Re: Panda, Beware!

2005-09-23 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Mike McCarty wrote: Wm Stanley wrote: Yes, And this is related to Debian? How? I believe it's related to improving spamassassin's filter. Thanks OP for the sample! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Panda, Beware!

2005-09-23 Thread ke6isf
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, Wm Stanley wrote: > Yes, > > I have used Panda Anti-virus software for several years now and had paid > for two more that will Never be used! Why? Because their otherwise > excellent programs were impossible to reconcile with Windows XP, to > which I recently upgraded, and be

Re: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread Joe Smith
"Mike McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ron Johnson wrote: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Using what he recommends ruins threaded reading, because the reply goes to the originator of the message, and the list gets CCd. That sounds like a

RE: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread Seth Goodman
> From: Ron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 12:50 PM <...> > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html This is written from the perspective of Elm being the reference for all MUA's. Though I used Elm twenty years ago as my primary MUA, the MUA's in wide

Re: Panda, Beware!

2005-09-23 Thread Mike McCarty
Wm Stanley wrote: Yes, And this is related to Debian? How? [snip] Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only fo

Re: Jabber

2005-09-23 Thread Björn Lindström
Chuck Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have jabber install but can't seem to connect. Does anyone know > if/where there is a website talks about getting jabber working on > Debian. Do you just want to chat? Then you don't need to have jabber installed, just a client, like for instance GAIM.

Re: NUM Lock , Home, End

2005-09-23 Thread Bozhan Boiadzhiev
Ron Johnson wrote: On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 19:01 -0500, Seth Goodman wrote: From: Marty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 6:47 PM <...> Sounds like a good reason to file a wishlist bug report. I'd be happy to do so. Where do I file this type o

Panda, Beware!

2005-09-23 Thread Wm Stanley
Yes,   I have used Panda Anti-virus software for several years now and had paid for two more that will Never be used!  Why? Because their otherwise excellent programs were impossible to reconcile with Windows XP, to which I recently upgraded, and because of their robotic treatment of their l

Re: Strange things with SMP setup (slightly OT)

2005-09-23 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Tuesday September 13 2005 00:09, Nicos Gollan wrote: > There's a really "funny" thing happening with my new machine (Athlon 64 > X2). Everytime the machine sees some load (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or a -j4 > make > job), something seems to go bam in the scheduler, IRQ routing or something > else.

Re: unable to install from CD: failure to mount once kernel installed

2005-09-23 Thread Mike McCarty
Seth Goodman wrote: From: Wackojacko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:56 AM <...> Googling this error (google is always your friend :) ) suggested that - you may want to turn DMA off for the drive ' hdparm -d0 /dev/hdc'. May need to install 'hdparm' first. Ah,

Jabber

2005-09-23 Thread Chuck Payne
Hi, I have jabber install but can't seem to connect. Does anyone know if/where there is a website talks about getting jabber working on Debian. Thanks PUP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: MOTD

2005-09-23 Thread Exal de Jesus Garcia Carrillo
#vi /etc/motd if you edit this file you can show a welcome message for the users of the your system. > How does one set up MOTD? A cat of /etc/motd? > > Thanks. > > > > > > > --xyrael.net-- > > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

RE: unable to install from CD: failure to mount once kernel installed

2005-09-23 Thread Seth Goodman
> From: Wackojacko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:56 AM <...> > Googling this error (google is always your friend :) ) suggested that > > - you may want to turn DMA off for the drive ' hdparm -d0 /dev/hdc'. > May need to install 'hdparm' first. Ah, thanks for both

MOTD

2005-09-23 Thread Sean Whitton
How does one set up MOTD? A cat of /etc/motd? Thanks. --xyrael.net-- binBd6vw8gUsM.bin Description: PGP Public Key

Re: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread Hodgins Family
Good afternoon! So in this case, do we hit reply-all, and cut and paste the list email as the To: line, removing all others, etc? I use reply all and then cut out everyone's name leaving only the list address. So far, I haven't annoyed anyone. Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROT

Re: 4ol 4rt files:

2005-09-23 Thread John Hasler
Edward J. Shornock writes: > It's amazing how they find us. From my years of doing technical support, > 4OLers don't know how to use search engines. But they try to use them anyway. That's how they find us. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsu

Re: Newbie Hostname Change

2005-09-23 Thread Sean Whitton
Interesting. I have just tried it with base-config, and it appears to have worked. But, just in case, is there anywhere else I need to change it? Thanks. --xyrael.net-- Quoting Bill Marcum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 04:50:26PM +0100, Sean Whitton wrote: Hi, My friend insta

Re: Responses to the list

2005-09-23 Thread Mike McCarty
Antony Gelberg wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 12:25 -0400, Angelo Bertolli wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: If you send question to the list, you should expect the answer to only go to the list. Ok, now I'm confused. I've seen so much "respond this w

Re: 4ol 4rt files:

2005-09-23 Thread Edward J. Shornock
John Hasler wrote: >Please do not follow up to the parent. Doing so will create more Google >hits and cause more of these lost souls to bombard us with their questions. > > It's amazing how they find us. From my years of doing technical support, 4OLers don't know how to use search engines. (I

[Fwd: Re: Responses to the list]

2005-09-23 Thread Mike McCarty
CRAP! Another one I had to pull from my sent and forward. Original Message Subject: Re: Responses to the list Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:47:52 -0500 From: Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <

Re: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Using what he recommends ruins threaded reading, because the reply goes to the originator of the message, and the list gets CCd. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} This message made from

Re: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 14:20 -0400, Angelo Bertolli wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html > > This is fine. Notice how "reply to the list, but don't CC me" isn't > part of what "reasonable mailers" are expected to do: > > "Reply-To munging does not ben

Re: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Ron Johnson wrote: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html This is fine. Notice how "reply to the list, but don't CC me" isn't part of what "reasonable mailers" are expected to do: "Reply-To munging does not benefit the user with a reasonable mailer. People want to munge Reply-To h

Re: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread Albert
Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 12:39 -0500, Albert wrote: Yes, you are right. Debian does this different than the rest of the world. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Yes, this ancient piece of Holy Writ was quoted to me years ago. Still, Debian does this different

Re: Responses to the list

2005-09-23 Thread Albert
Antony Gelberg wrote: ... I have it set up to read this list via the newsgroup linux.debian.user. Hitting reply goes to the group. Perhaps this is something that some Thunderbird users should consider. Excellent idea. Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje

Re: Responses to the list

2005-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 12:46 -0500, Albert wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 11:52 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > > > >>Ron Johnson wrote: > >> > > >>>Doesn't T-bird have a "Reply to list" option? > >> > >>It does NOT. > > > > Oh. Now I understand your problem. > > > > The sol

mouse driver doesn't detect my scroll wheel

2005-09-23 Thread David Hugh-Jones
Hi I have a laptop with a trackpoint and a PS/2 port for external mice. When I plug in a 3 button mouse to the PS/2 port, it works fine, but the scroll wheel doesn't do anything. This seems to be a driver problem rather than an X problem, as "cat /dev/input/mice" doesn't show any output when I mov

Re: 4ol 4rt files:

2005-09-23 Thread John Hasler
Please do not follow up to the parent. Doing so will create more Google hits and cause more of these lost souls to bombard us with their questions. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 12:39 -0500, Albert wrote: > Angelo Bertolli wrote: > > [Sorry for replying in that other thread, here is a new one:] > > > > > > Ok, now I'm confused. I've seen so much "respond this way" on the list > > lately. I'm using Tbird, and when I hit "reply" it replies to the

Re: Why Is This Install Wanting to Remove My Kernel Image?

2005-09-23 Thread Scarletdown
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 18:43 +0200, Andreas Janssen wrote: > Hello > > Scarletdown (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > I've had this happen twice. Both times, I aborted the install of > > course). The first time was when I wanted to install AbiWord, the > > second time was just a few minutes ago

Re: Responses to the list

2005-09-23 Thread Albert
Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 11:52 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Doesn't T-bird have a "Reply to list" option? It does NOT. Oh. Now I understand your problem. The solution is to use Sylpheed, Evolution or KMail. No, the solution is not to let anyone bully

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Stephen R Laniel wrote: On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 10:36:02PM +0500, Fritz Brown wrote: I was logged into the system as root, and opened an xterm, then tried dpkg. That should work, if I ignore that "--install" stuff? I don't know why they were telling you to do dpkg -i | --install -

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 10:36:02PM +0500, Fritz Brown wrote: > I was logged into the system as root, and opened an xterm, then tried dpkg. > That should work, if I ignore that "--install" stuff? I don't know why they were telling you to do dpkg -i | --install -i and --install are the same argu

Re: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread Albert
Angelo Bertolli wrote: [Sorry for replying in that other thread, here is a new one:] Ok, now I'm confused. I've seen so much "respond this way" on the list lately. I'm using Tbird, and when I hit "reply" it replies to the poster only. When I hit "reply-all" it goes to the poster, the list,

Re: watching an avi

2005-09-23 Thread Nicle Yang
The Mplayer will be a good choice. On 9/24/05, p <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 07:48:26PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:__deletia__> Sometimes xine runs but the display window remains black > and the sound plays fine.__deletia__when that happens to me, i just double clickxine's bla

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 10:09:19AM -0700, Chris Martin wrote: > Yes. So you should be able to login as root (su), and perform > dpkg -i package.deb > > if you don't want to mess with sudo But he *does* want to mess with sudo. Sudo is a much safer tool than logging in as root, for reasons that hav

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Fritz Brown
> > Yes. So you should be able to login as root (su), and perform > dpkg -i package.deb > > if you don't want to mess with sudo > I was logged into the system as root, and opened an xterm, then tried dpkg. That should work, if I ignore that "--install" stuff? Fritz -- _

Re: Responses to the list

2005-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 11:52 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 12:25 -0400, Angelo Bertolli wrote: > > > >>Ron Johnson wrote: > >> > >> > >>>If you send question to the list, you should expect the answer > >>>to only go to the list. > >>> > >>> > >> > >>Ok,

Re: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread Fritz Brown
Using my browser (online e-mail), when I click on "Reply All", I get both the list and the original sender in the "To:" line. Is that unusual, compared to Thunderbird? (I know the same thing happens in Outlook.) I simply delete the extra addressee and send. I'm not flaming, I'm just wanting

Re: Newbie Hostname Change

2005-09-23 Thread Chris Martin
On 9/23/05, Bill Marcum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 04:50:26PM +0100, Sean Whitton wrote: > > Hi, > > > > My friend installed Debian on his computer and I'm supposed to be > > admining it as a server. THings are going well (except I keep > > mistyping shutdown and killing t

Re: aol art files:

2005-09-23 Thread Kladyweaver
what does this mean? what does this pretain to?  does this  have anything to do with my embroidery files? [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Albert
Albert wrote: I am a new user of Debian. My first task after system install is to install Firefox and Tbird, preferably the latest 1.0.6 or 1.0.7. It's a piece of cake to download and install these from the mozilla site, but I have no idea how I might then wrap them with an icon and to get th

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Chris Martin
On 9/23/05, Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fritz Brown wrote: > >>You need to run > >> > >>sudo dpkg -i [whatever it is].deb > >> > > > > Aaaahh. Will try that. Everything else had me doing a dpkg -i | --install > > [whatever].deb. And, it really didn't like that "| --install" part

Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird

2005-09-23 Thread Chris Martin
On 9/23/05, Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Angelo Bertolli wrote: > > Albert wrote: > > > >> michael wrote: > >> > >> > >>> and insults don't generally inspire people to respond in a helpful > >>> manner, but then you prob knew that already ;) > >> > >> > >> > >> Insults? I only resp

Re: Newbie Hostname Change

2005-09-23 Thread Bill Marcum
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 04:50:26PM +0100, Sean Whitton wrote: > Hi, > > My friend installed Debian on his computer and I'm supposed to be > admining it as a server. THings are going well (except I keep > mistyping shutdown and killing the server), but there is one problem: > the hostname. > > He

Re: watching an avi

2005-09-23 Thread p
On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 07:48:26PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: __deletia__ > Sometimes xine runs but the display window remains black > and the sound plays fine. __deletia__ when that happens to me, i just double click xine's black window, which then becomes full screen; then i double click it a

Re: Responses to the list

2005-09-23 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 12:25 -0400, Angelo Bertolli wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: If you send question to the list, you should expect the answer to only go to the list. Ok, now I'm confused. I've seen so much "respond this way" on the list lately. I'm using Tbird, and wh

Re: Responses to the list (oops)

2005-09-23 Thread Albert
Angelo Bertolli wrote: [Sorry for replying in that other thread, here is a new one:] Ok, now I'm confused. I've seen so much "respond this way" on the list lately. I'm using Tbird, and when I hit "reply" it replies to the poster only. When I hit "reply-all" it goes to the poster, the list,

Re: Bittorent question

2005-09-23 Thread Erik Karlin
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 09:16:01AM -0500, Josh Battles wrote: > Last night I installed bittorrent on my server so that I could use it to > download/seed some files but I can't seem to get anything to download via BT. > I've used BT on Windows and other Linux distros (but never debian) without > an

Re: Responses to the list

2005-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 12:25 -0400, Angelo Bertolli wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > >If you send question to the list, you should expect the answer > >to only go to the list. > > > > > Ok, now I'm confused. I've seen so much "respond this way" on the list > lately. I'm using Tbird, and when I

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