No updates for Sarge

2005-06-13 Thread John Graves
I was successfully using apt-get to maintain my sarge installation on my server. The week before sarge went stable I changed the 2 entries in my sources.list from testing to sarge and again successfully received an update. Now that Sarge is stable, I have not received any updates either norma

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 01:41 am, Steve Lamb wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > Actually, they are not as objective as one would think. > > Statement with no backup, gotta love it. Gone through that statement several times in the thread. I wrote a number of times about differences between objec

Re: Disk Mirroring in Sarge howto

2005-06-13 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Siju George wrote: > I want to have the following partitions in both the hard disk > > / - 500 MB - Primary good > swap - 2 GB - Primary bad location ?? if it is partition#2 > /usr - 5 GB - Primary ok > /home - 500 MB - Logical extreme bad idea if you have use

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Hal Vaughan wrote: > Actually, they are not as objective as one would think. Statement with no backup, gotta love it. > Putting a few sentences together in reverse order is not a comparison to > top posting. Yes, it is because that is exactly what top posting does. > There are many reas

Newbie needs help fine tuning sarge

2005-06-13 Thread j Mak
Hi, I've just installed sarge with much help from the debian community. It works fine, now, and I am very satisfied with it. But I have a few things still left to fine tune. 1 My /apt/sources.list is empty, where can i find repository addresses. 2.Currntly, I can start synaptic only form the com

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Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 12:05 am, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 22:33 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > --snip-- > > > you've noticed, I inline post, and rarely top post. I know that is how > > it is done, but the will of the group is not always right. Where there > > is one, > > You'r

Re: Gwebdec (Solved)

2005-06-13 Thread David R. Litwin
Now that's a fine Idea. Summary: Problem: I like webshots, not available for Windows. So, I found gwebdec. Now, when I installed it (via make), it gave a large output and essentially, did not install. After much looking at things, it turns out that I didn't have the gtk2.0-dev package installed.

Brief Apt-Get and KDE Question

2005-06-13 Thread David R. Litwin
I have recently gotten KDE 3.4.1 from deb http://pkg-KDE.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/ ./ which is apparently a legitimate debian site from which to get KDE. Now, after doing the usual apt-get and apt-upgrade (and dist-upgrade: I wanted the latest version of Sarge, but I don't think that matters her

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 08:17:25PM -0400, Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote: > Help me please! > > I have mistakenly trusted the Debian community and upgraded to Sarge > and it is a DISASTER. > > HOW COULD YOU HAVE DONE THIS TO US ! ! ! > > (Reading database ... 70119 files and directories currently in

Re: Gwebdec

2005-06-13 Thread David R. Litwin
No. Gwebdec is a Webshots for Linux, in essence.

Migrated OT: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Kent West
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: >Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>What is the difference between a duck? >> >>(Which I _still_ don't get.) >> >> >And that, I believe, is the point. Kinda like one hand clapping or the >trees/forest thing. > > Ah-hah! Now I don't get it . . . . Thanks! (A

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-13 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:49:45 +0100 Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 02:00:18PM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: ... > Last week Xfce4 crashed on > > me five times. Other than that, yes, it's a good compromise*. I've > > gone back to the tried and true IceWM. > >

Re: sound problems with 2.6

2005-06-13 Thread Prasenjit Kapat
thanx a ton Colin. i surely appreciate it. now as I had mentioned, I have two sound cards... using alsaconf, i can play ONLY one. 1. if set up snd-intel8x0 : i am able to play into the on-board intel card but into the pci card. 2. if i set up snd-ens1371 : i am able to play into the pci card but

disk quota changes in Sarge upgrade

2005-06-13 Thread Ross Tsolakidis
Hi all, Recently upgraded to the new version of Debian, and noticed that quotas stopped working. I did see a message pop up something about quota changing and needing to be started some other way. I didn't take notice, my fault totally. Can anyone gimme a hand or does anyone remember what the ch

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:58:15 -0500 Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > >On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:04:41 -0700 > >Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>>(*ducks*) > >>> > >>> > >>*tosses peanuts back at the gallery!* > >> > >> > >Ducks eat pean

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 22:33 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: --snip-- > you've noticed, I inline post, and rarely top post. I know that is how it is > done, but the will of the group is not always right. Where there is one, You're absolutely right. The will of the group most definitely is NOT always

Re: X configuration probs

2005-06-13 Thread Ivan Teliatnikov
# Dirt and easy method. === If you do not know much about Xfree, why should you? try this dirt and easy methods. On many machines I tried it worked just find. # I assuming that you know how to run command from command line and # that /etc/apt/sources.list is configured properl

Re: Ifconfig

2005-06-13 Thread Kent West
Ag! You haven't been paying attention to the "Top Posting" thread, have you? David R. Litwin wrote: > I have tried to modify the interfaces file before. I added precisely > what you told me to. It did not work. But, since I did a dist-upgrade > from Sarge to Stable Sarge, the file change. I have

Re: Disk Mirroring in Sarge howto

2005-06-13 Thread Siju George
On 6/13/05, Aurélien Campéas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 12:58 +0530, Siju George a écrit : > > Hi all, > > > > I would like to implement Disk mirroring ( Raid1 ) in Debian Sarge. Is > > it possible to configure it while installation if I have both hard > > disks attached??

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Kent West
Hal Vaughan wrote: >... And policy can be enforced anal retentively > Is that why they're called analysts? ;-) -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: can I use packages from dotdeb for Sarge???

2005-06-13 Thread Siju George
On 6/13/05, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:01:41PM +0200, Aurélien Campéas wrote: > > Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 10:56 +0530, Siju George a écrit : > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Please let me know if it is all right to use LAMP packages from dotdeb > > > > > > h

Using Cedega

2005-06-13 Thread Romulo Sousa
Hi folks, I would like to run JediKnight Academy at my box cuz I don't wanna to reboot it and load windows just for games. Speacially cuz it's crashing all the time and I'm getting crazy with it. The solution I found for games was Cedega. After some efforts for finding a .deb package of cedega I c

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Kent West
Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote: >In any case this is the typescript from my last upgrade attempt. > > >Compt-113ws:/home/cpisbk1# apt-get dist-upgrade -f >Reading Package Lists... Done >Building Dependency Tree... Done >Correcting dependencies... Done >Calculating Upgrade... Done >The following pack

Re: Setting up PostgreSQL on Debian...

2005-06-13 Thread John Hasler
I get exactly the same error here. The user I am running pgAccess as is a PostgreSQL user. When I run psql I can create the database and then open it in pgAccess, but I can't create it in pgAccess. Looks like a but. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 09:48:27PM -0400, Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote: > You are absolutely right, please accept my apologies. Accepted. I've been frantic and posted things I didn't mean in my time, myself. [snip] > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > xserver-rage128: Depends:

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Brian Kimsey-Hickman
True, compared to other operating system upgrades this is not that bad. And no, I don't know if Slashdot reports the upgrade results of other Linux distributions or other operating systems. It just seems to me that this release was not up to Debian standards. I did not experience anything like t

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Greg Madden
On Monday 13 June 2005 04:31 pm, Tom Allison wrote: > Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote: > > Help me please! > > > > I have mistakenly trusted the Debian community and upgraded to > > Sarge and it is a DISASTER. > > > > HOW COULD YOU HAVE DONE THIS TO US ! ! ! > > With a post like this, I wouldn't be surp

Re: Ifconfig

2005-06-13 Thread David R. Litwin
I have tried to modify the interfaces file before. I added precisely what you told me to. It did not work. But, since I did a dist-upgrade from Sarge to Stable Sarge, the file change. I have re-added it: Perhaps it shall now work. Me hopes so. As to the second thing, I'm not quite sure what you me

Re: sound problems with 2.6

2005-06-13 Thread Colin
Prasenjit Kapat wrote: > My life was fine with a 2.4.25 kernel and 'sid' distro. I re-installed > the entire system with the 2.6 kernel and 'sid' distro. Now I can not > get my soundcards working. I have an onborad intel's integrated sound > device, which was being recognised by i810_audio driver e

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 08:31:18PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > > apt-get autoclean; this will clean up your cache directory, good thing to do > every once in a while but no required. > > apt-get update; > > apt-get dist-upgrade > > This is the way you are supposed to do an upgrade of this typ

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Brian Kimsey-Hickman
Tom, I have some Rat Hat servers I manage. Usually, you can't upgrade between major releases you have to do a complete re-installation. Kind of like that song they teach you at Microsoft. fdisk, format, reinstall, du da, du da. I might be suffering with Debian right now but its still better th

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 13 June 2005 09:01 pm, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 16:15 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > --snip-- > > > It is a metaphor. In both cases, groups have set themselves up as the > > authority on what is right and wrong, whether it is a technical or moral > > argument. > > Any

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Marty
Tom Allison wrote: Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote: Help me please! I don't know why you used dselect to do this. I am pretty certain that you really don't want to use dselect when doing a distribution upgrade. I think you are wrong about that. Did you read the very fine manual before upg

Re: Newbie cannot start graphical desktop

2005-06-13 Thread j Mak
--- Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > j Mak: > > --- Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Then do 'aptitude install xserver-xfree86' (and > yes, > > > 86 not 89). I am > > > very sure it's on the first CD. > > > > The “aptitude install xserver-xfree86” command > worked.

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Tom Allison
Joey Hess wrote: Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote: I have mistakenly trusted the Debian community and upgraded to Sarge and it is a DISASTER. HOW COULD YOU HAVE DONE THIS TO US ! ! ! (Reading database ... 70119 files and directories currently installed.) Removing xserver-rage128 ... sed: can't read

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Tom Allison
Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote: Carl, You are absolutely right, please accept my apologies. Please believe, I DON'T HATE YOU. But the Slashdot article referenced Bill Allombert in an article on the Australian ZDNet Site: http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,261733,39196419,00.htm I think

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Tom Allison
Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote: I do have a question though, what specifically are you referring to when you say the "fine manual" ? Is this the installation guide at: RELEASE NOTES, section 4 might be a good place to start. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install or the Progeny Us

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday June 13 2005 12:22 pm, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:04:41 -0700 > > Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (*ducks*) > > > > *tosses peanuts back at the gallery!* > > Ducks eat peanuts? Yes, I've seen it. At least the ducks I see around here will eat almost a

Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it

2005-06-13 Thread Colin
Guillaume TESSIER wrote: > By default, source.lists uses the naming "stable", "testing" and > "unstable"; However, you can use instead "woody" or "sarge" that would > be simlinks that will always point to the right directory, whatever of > the eventual switch. No, that's backwards. "stable", "tes

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Brian Kimsey-Hickman
Yes, I did catch that subtlety. But, I which manual? There are several you know. Brian On 6/13/05, Scarletdown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote: > > > Or maybe some other source. I have just not heard of the term "fine > > manual" before. But, you obviously know more a

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Joey Hess
Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote: > I have mistakenly trusted the Debian community and upgraded to Sarge > and it is a DISASTER. > > HOW COULD YOU HAVE DONE THIS TO US ! ! ! > > (Reading database ... 70119 files and directories currently installed.) > Removing xserver-rage128 ... > sed: can't read /etc

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Scarletdown
Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote: Or maybe some other source. I have just not heard of the term "fine manual" before. But, you obviously know more about this than I do. That is the "polite" definition of RTFM. :D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Brian Kimsey-Hickman
Carl, You are absolutely right, please accept my apologies. Please believe, I DON'T HATE YOU. But the Slashdot article referenced Bill Allombert in an article on the Australian ZDNet Site: http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,261733,39196419,00.htm I think there are some valid arguments

Re: Setting up PostgreSQL on Debian...

2005-06-13 Thread Clive Menzies
On (13/06/05 17:45), Redefined Horizons wrote: > I'm a little confused on this one. > > I chose to install PostgreSQL during the installation of Debian Sarge. > Both PostgreSQL and pgAccess were installed. > > However, when I try to create a new database using pgAccess, I get the > following erro

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Brian Kimsey-Hickman
Tom, Please accept my apologies. With having having to manage 8 different operating systems including MS NT, 2000, 2003, Cisco IOS, Cisco CatOS, Cisco PIX, and Red Hat Advanced Server, Debian has by far been the best to manage and the easiest to upgrade. I used dselect to upgrade from potato to

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 16:15 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: --snip-- > It is a metaphor. In both cases, groups have set themselves up as the > authority on what is right and wrong, whether it is a technical or moral > argument. Any pre-existing group dictates policy to newcomers. When I go into a new

Do I need to download and use the older package?

2005-06-13 Thread Redefined Horizons
Quick question on package management in Debian Sarge. I tried to install glade-2 using both Synaptic and apt. I get an error message regarding the glade-common package. Synaptic and apt lists the glade-common package as version 2.6.8-2, gut the error message indicates that I need 2.6.8-2 to intall

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 08:17:25PM -0400, Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote: > I have mistakenly trusted the Debian community and upgraded to Sarge > and it is a DISASTER. > > HOW COULD YOU HAVE DONE THIS TO US ! ! ! "I'd like your help, but first let me abuse you as unpaid volunteers. I HATE YOU! Pl

Setting up PostgreSQL on Debian...

2005-06-13 Thread Redefined Horizons
I'm a little confused on this one. I chose to install PostgreSQL during the installation of Debian Sarge. Both PostgreSQL and pgAccess were installed. However, when I try to create a new database using pgAccess, I get the following error: "Tcl error executing pg_exec create database test is not

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-13 Thread Tom Allison
Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: And just as good if you do maximize windows -- like me. I usually have one to four maximized windows on each of 10 desktops. What I like most about WindowMaker is its configurability. Recent versions of KDE have, perhaps, caught up with it. That may

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-13 Thread Tom Allison
Cam wrote: Hi, Ditto on WMaker. The big thing that drew me to it was the fond memories I had of using NeXTStep on some NeXT machines in high school. It truly was a joy to use. I must say that WMaker does an outstanding job of replicating the interface. WindowMaker is the best... it doesn

Re: spamassassin bayesian - db format

2005-06-13 Thread Robert Storey
On Monday 13 June 2005 21:21, Chris Searle wrote: > Old woody system - the bayes files for spamassassin give the > following: > > $ file * > bayes_seen: Berkeley DB (Hash, version 5, native byte-order) > bayes_toks: Berkeley DB (Hash, version 5, native byte-order) > > New sarge system - per

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-13 Thread Tom Allison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have just finished installing sarge (am a first-time debian user, very impressed), and now am chosing a window manager. I have fond memories of using a little-known WM called VTWM on SunOS, but that was almost 10 years ago now. I'm guessing the are other, at least equally

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Craig Russell
Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote: Help me please! I have mistakenly trusted the Debian community and upgraded to Sarge and it is a DISASTER. HOW COULD YOU HAVE DONE THIS TO US ! ! ! (Reading database ... 70119 files and directories currently installed.) Removing xserver-rage128 ... sed: can't read

Re: Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Tom Allison
Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote: Help me please! I have mistakenly trusted the Debian community and upgraded to Sarge and it is a DISASTER. HOW COULD YOU HAVE DONE THIS TO US ! ! ! With a post like this, I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't get much help. You're not exactly welcoming... I do

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-13 Thread Eric P
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have just finished installing sarge (am a first-time debian user, very impressed), and now am chosing a window manager. I have fond memories of using a little-known WM called VTWM on SunOS, but that was almost 10 years ago now. I'm guessing th

Sarge Upgrade DEBOCLE ! ! !

2005-06-13 Thread Brian Kimsey-Hickman
Help me please! I have mistakenly trusted the Debian community and upgraded to Sarge and it is a DISASTER. HOW COULD YOU HAVE DONE THIS TO US ! ! ! (Reading database ... 70119 files and directories currently installed.) Removing xserver-rage128 ... sed: can't read /etc/X11/Xserver: No such file

Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-13 Thread Stephen Patterson
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:30:11 +0200, Hendrik Boom wrote: > After 18 hours of upgrading on my very slow 100 MHz Pentium, > it ended up producing an unending stream of > > multilog: warning: unable to write to /var/log/svscan/current. pausing: out > of disk space The few times I've run out of space

Re: X.org

2005-06-13 Thread Tom Allison
John Hasler wrote: Michel Di Croci writes: How much devs are currently developping debian? Most of us don't know enough about X to be any use. Of those that do some have chosen to participate in the X team. No one assigns jobs to Debian developers. Volunteer organizations... you get what

Re: fluxbox application switching panel

2005-06-13 Thread Stephen Patterson
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:31:56 +0200, Andras Lorincz wrote: > I googled but could not find out how to make fluxbox show a switching > panel when using alt-tab It doesn't do that. > and also could not find out how to switch to > minimized windows with alt-tab. You need to configure the iconbar (ri

Re: Debian Sarge DVD Download Limit?

2005-06-13 Thread Anders Breindahl
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 00:13, Glyn Tebbutt wrote: > I've never tried jigdo, what's the speed like? > I was aware of the bug, the ie server doesn't seem to have those image's > , ill search around, i dont really want to download cd images as ive got > a dvd burner, might as well make use of it :)

Re: Debian Sarge DVD Download Limit?

2005-06-13 Thread peter colton
On Monday 13 June 2005 23:13, Glyn Tebbutt wrote: > Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Glyn Tebbutt wrote: > >>Hi everyone > >>I'm having problem's downloading the sarge dvd's. Im trying > >>http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0/i386/iso-dvd/debian-31r0-i386-b > >>inary-1.iso but wget stops at 320mb. Sa

Re: Debian Sarge DVD Download Limit?

2005-06-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
Glyn Tebbutt wrote: > >Hi everyone >I'm having problem's downloading the sarge dvd's. Im trying >http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0/i386/iso-dvd/debian-31r0-i386-binary-1.iso >but wget stops at 320mb. Same happen's with Firefox. Is there any way >around this? I know this has been asked befor

Re: changing from unstable to testing

2005-06-13 Thread Bob Proulx
Anton Bretterklieber wrote: > I'm using linux from mepis.org. (a mix of unstable and testing) > What is the best way to change from unstable back to testing? > New installation? Downgrades have no official support. It is too hard of a problem. I would probably stick where you are unless you have

Re: Wireless networking issues -- Netgear WG311T and Sarge with kernel 2.6.8

2005-06-13 Thread Angelina Carlton
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 11:43:25PM +0200, Tim Kynerd wrote: > On advice I got from alt.os.linux.debian, I just now installed the 2.6.8 > kernel and tried again. Now there is an interface called "ath0" (the > wireless card has an Atheros chipset, hence the name of the interface), > but somehow i

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-13 Thread Thomas Adam
--- Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > satisfies my requirements well. I wouldn't have put so much time > into > fixing up the packages for Debian if I didn't think it was useful. That's nice that you spend time on it -- and if it suits you, then all well and good. When I used it, it se

Re: Debian Sarge DVD Download Limit?

2005-06-13 Thread Glyn Tebbutt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve McIntyre wrote: > Glyn Tebbutt wrote: > >>Hi everyone >>I'm having problem's downloading the sarge dvd's. Im trying >>http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0/i386/iso-dvd/debian-31r0-i386-binary-1.iso >>but wget stops at 320mb. Same happen's w

Re: ALSA sound card driver problem

2005-06-13 Thread Thomas Hood
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:00:20 +0200, Peter J Ross wrote: > I suggest reading the man page for alsactl. Basically, you want to run > "alsactl store" once (after running alsaconf) and then "alsactl > restore" automatically on each reboot. If you install alsa-base then sound levels will be restored f

Re: Apache2/PHP permissions in ISP environment

2005-06-13 Thread Ugo Bellavance
Simon wrote: > Hi there, we are running debian sarge for a virtual hosting box. PHP > safe mode is on for all users with a host of other php_admin_values etc. > We are running name based virtual hosting for all hosts except SSL hosts > which have their own IP... We are using pureftpd for our FTP se

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-13 Thread Simon Huggins
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 07:09:00PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > --- Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does that mean that xfce4 is a good compromise then between both of > > these concepts given you can install as many or as few of the > > components as you like once you have the basic li

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-13 Thread Simon Huggins
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 02:00:18PM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Do you have a real name? I always like to know who I'm talking to. > On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:56:46 +0100 > Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does that mean that xfce4 is a good compromise then between both of > > these con

Wireless networking issues -- Netgear WG311T and Sarge with kernel 2.6.8

2005-06-13 Thread Tim Kynerd
Hi everyone, I'm new to Debian, but not to Linux -- I've run SuSE Linux for about seven years, but decided to try Debian hoping it might possibly have better support for wireless networking. So far, that doesn't quite seem to be the case -- but in some other respects I like Debian, so I'd like

Re: Looking for recommendation or backup/restore tool

2005-06-13 Thread Jacob S
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:41:07 -0700 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Martinell wrote: > > Does anybody have any suggestions for this? > > Erm, why the requirement for a web interface? That right there is > the killer because backup/restore is generally thought of an admin > task w

Re: Debian Sarge DVD Download Limit?

2005-06-13 Thread Glyn Tebbutt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 peter colton wrote: > On Monday 13 June 2005 21:31, Glyn Tebbutt wrote: > >>Hi everyone >>I'm having problem's downloading the sarge dvd's. Im trying >>http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0/i386/iso-dvd/debian-31r0-i386-bin >>ary-1.iso but wget st

Re: Newly installed Sarge: (1) halts at 8529A IRQ 7 (2) cannot start gdm: X server is missing.

2005-06-13 Thread Bill Marcum
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 04:06:55PM -0300, Fernando Cacciola wrote: > Hello People, > > I had Knoppix 3.8.1 intalled on an old AMD K7 Duron 700 with 128Mb RAM, all > OnBoard except the wireless eth card. > It worked OK. > > Then I installed Sarge from scratch (keeping the Knoppix partitions but

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-13 Thread Clive Menzies
On (13/06/05 17:56), Simon Huggins wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 05:35:23PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > > --- Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Educate me: what's the difference? > > A Window Manager, on the other hand, does just that -- it manages > > windows. It doesn't dictate a fil

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-13 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello All Paul E Condon wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 10:37:09PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Jerome BENOIT writes: what must /etc/debian_version contain for an Etch box ? Whatever you want it to say. On this machine it says "testing/unstable". -- My test, doing a dist-upgrade on a Sarg

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Kent West
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: >On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:04:41 -0700 >Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>(*ducks*) >>> >>> >>*tosses peanuts back at the gallery!* >> >> >Ducks eat peanuts? > > What is the difference between a duck? (Which I _still_ don't get.) -- Kent West Tech

Re: Debian Sarge DVD Download Limit?

2005-06-13 Thread peter colton
On Monday 13 June 2005 21:31, Glyn Tebbutt wrote: > Hi everyone > I'm having problem's downloading the sarge dvd's. Im trying > http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0/i386/iso-dvd/debian-31r0-i386-bin >ary-1.iso but wget stops at 320mb. Same happen's with Firefox. Is there any > way around this?

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:04:41 -0700 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (*ducks*) > > *tosses peanuts back at the gallery!* Ducks eat peanuts? (sorry, sorry) Cybe R. Wizard -- Press 'START' to stop Winduhs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "u

Newly installed Sarge: (1) halts at 8529A IRQ 7 (2) cannot start gdm: X server is missing.

2005-06-13 Thread Fernando Cacciola
Hello People, I had Knoppix 3.8.1 intalled on an old AMD K7 Duron 700 with 128Mb RAM, all OnBoard except the wireless eth card. It worked OK. Then I installed Sarge from scratch (keeping the Knoppix partitions but re-installing the Sarge FS on it) using a netdist CD. The CD part went very smoot

Debian Sarge DVD Download Limit?

2005-06-13 Thread Glyn Tebbutt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone I'm having problem's downloading the sarge dvd's. Im trying http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0/i386/iso-dvd/debian-31r0-i386-binary-1.iso but wget stops at 320mb. Same happen's with Firefox. Is there any way around this? I know this

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-13 Thread David Jardine
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 01:29:40PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > My test, doing a dist-upgrade on a Sarge system to move it to Etch, showed > that dist-upgrade does not change the contents of /etc/debian-version. > Also, the last modified date on /etc/debian-version is jul 26 2004, which > is th

locale and dead keys

2005-06-13 Thread Antonios Christofides
Hi, I want to be able to type both French and Greek (except English). When I start the application (xterm, uxterm, and openoffice all exhibit the same behavior) with LC_CTYPE=el_GR.UTF-8, then Greek is OK; but if I switch to us_intl keymap, I can't type accented letters; they are just ignored. I

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 13 June 2005 02:36 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: > Because we're not playing Jeopardy. > > Why is top-posting wrong? > > Put up top for the top posters who are too lazy to do it right. Cute. Just so cute and original. I don't think I've seen that before -- in this thread -- today

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 13 June 2005 02:45 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: > Proofreading is a good thing. Why I never do it until the message is > delivered back to me is beyond me. > > Steve Lamb wrote: > > Point is that since it is a matter of technical detail, not moral nor > > subjective as all points in favor o

Re: How to capture bootup messages?

2005-06-13 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 03:59:23PM -0400, John Kelly wrote: > I used sysv-rc-conf to enable it, but it did not start. Then I > noticed its script checks BOOTLOGD_ENABLE in /etc/default/bootlogd > before starting. > > Debian has a lot of knobs to turn; I see it will take some time to > learn my wa

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-13 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:56:46 +0100 Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does that mean that xfce4 is a good compromise then between both of > these concepts given you can install as many or as few of the > components as you like once you have the basic libraries installed? ;) Having been a

Re: How to capture bootup messages?

2005-06-13 Thread John Kelly
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:21:06 +0100, michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 15:15 -0400, John Kelly wrote: >> When booting, I see console messages from programs using stdout and >> stderr, scrolling by too fast to read. They are not logged in dmesg >> or any /var/log file. >>

Re: How to capture bootup messages?

2005-06-13 Thread Olle Eriksson
On Monday 13 June 2005 21.21, michael wrote: > On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 15:15 -0400, John Kelly wrote: > > When booting, I see console messages from programs using stdout and > > stderr, scrolling by too fast to read. They are not logged in dmesg > > or any /var/log file. > > > > How to capture them?

Re: system monitoring software

2005-06-13 Thread Ugo Bellavance
Cam wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for some software that can do some basic system-monitoring > tasks (check if services are up and running, hard-drive space, etc). > I've been looking at some things like nagios, OpenNMS, and Cacti... > they all look pretty good (i probably like the looks of nagios

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Kent West wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: >> Proofreading is a good thing. Why I never do it until the message is >>delivered back to me is beyond me. > ... >>"and against top/bottomg posting ..." > D'oh! Meh, typos I'm less concerned about than sweeping generalizations I have not confirmed (

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-13 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 10:37:09PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Jerome BENOIT writes: > > what must /etc/debian_version contain for an Etch box ? > > Whatever you want it to say. On this machine it says "testing/unstable". > -- My test, doing a dist-upgrade on a Sarge system to move it to Etch,

Re: How to capture bootup messages?

2005-06-13 Thread michael
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 15:15 -0400, John Kelly wrote: > When booting, I see console messages from programs using stdout and > stderr, scrolling by too fast to read. They are not logged in dmesg > or any /var/log file. > > How to capture them? man bootlogd -- Michael Bane Atmospheric Physics Grou

How to capture bootup messages?

2005-06-13 Thread John Kelly
When booting, I see console messages from programs using stdout and stderr, scrolling by too fast to read. They are not logged in dmesg or any /var/log file. How to capture them? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Kent West wrote: > "I say,", said Fred, "that's a giant tuber!". - - Incorrect, but > technically more informative (or so I would think) > (*ducks*) *tosses peanuts back at the gallery!* -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5

Re: Disk Mirroring in Sarge howto

2005-06-13 Thread Rhomboid
I just tried to install Sarge yesterday with RAID (md) from the initial setup on a machine. I tried RAID-0 and RAID-1 and both times the installation failed on grub-install. It just hung. The third time I let it sit for about 5 hours and when I got home it was still hung. LILO failed as well an

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Kent West
Steve Lamb wrote: >Proofreading is a good thing. Why I never do it until the message is >delivered back to me is beyond me. > ... >"and against top/bottomg posting ..." > D'oh! -- Kent West Technology Support /A/bilene /C/hristian /U/niversity -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Kent West
Steve Lamb wrote: >For example there are rules on where punctuation >is placed when using quotation marks. > >"I say," said Fred, "that's a giant tuber!" -- Correct > >"I say", said Fred, "that's a giant tuber"! -- Incorrect > > "I say,", said Fred, "that's a giant tuber!". - - In

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