remove perl

2004-12-26 Thread saravanan ganapathy
Hai, I need to remove perl for security reasons.But perl is needed for most of the system utilities.So I am unable to remove. Is there any way that I can remove perl? Or How do I disable perl not to run any scripts? Please suggest me Sarav _

Re: reverse dns lookup problem on ssh debian vs redhat

2004-12-26 Thread Sam Watkins
google ssh reverse dns debian turned up this as the first hit: http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2002/03/msg00081.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Ssarge Upgrade-Lilo: FATAL

2004-12-26 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
Sam Watkins wrote: I think you'll find that in Debian at the moment, "grub" is a better bootloader if you want things to just work when you install new kernel images. Try installing grub and see if that helps. If you want to keep using lilo, and want help to fix it, please post your lilo.c

Re: Alternate OSes based on Debian

2004-12-26 Thread William Ballard
On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 06:12:18PM +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: > > > The folks there should change the name: I would never use a thing named > > > _ubuntu_. Btw, Hurd is a name as horrible as ubuntu. > > > > Yeah, I've gotta admit, I'm a bit turned off by the name, "Ubuntu." > > I think Ubuntu is

Re: Debian Geek Toolkit Question

2004-12-26 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 03:46:23PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > Sarge NetInstall is great for installing Sarge, but it > appears not to be usable as a live CD for booting onto > a system that has a broken installation. It is usable, but not exactly convenient, as a rescue disk. As it says in the

Re: resolv.conf

2004-12-26 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 07:59:12PM +, Alan Chandler wrote: > Thats not what I meant. What at the file access rights and owner/group of > the /etc/resolv.conf file? -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 144 Dec 24 16:53 /etc/resolv.conf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "u

Re: Help allocating RAM to video card

2004-12-26 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 08:03:31AM -0800, Ridge Chittenden wrote: > I have an old IBM Aptiva that has an onboard ATI chip > with a measly 2MB of video RAM. This is enough for me > to run X with a resolution of 800x600, but no more. If you set the color depth to 16 bits instead of 24 bits, you shou

Re: Alternate OSes based on Debian

2004-12-26 Thread Sam Watkins
> > The folks there should change the name: I would never use a thing named > > _ubuntu_. Btw, Hurd is a name as horrible as ubuntu. > > Yeah, I've gotta admit, I'm a bit turned off by the name, "Ubuntu." I think Ubuntu is a great name. Meaningful! Perhaps the poster would be turned off by any

Re: Backup-software FTP

2004-12-26 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 02:09:43PM +0100, Jon-Eirik Pettersen wrote: > What would you recommend of software to do simple directory-based > backups to an FTP-server? I like "lftp", it can do recursive upload / download (mirror, mirror -R). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a s

Re: Debian sarge and production servers is it ready on 12/26/2004?

2004-12-26 Thread Brian Nelson
On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 12:54:01AM -0500, Mitchell Laks wrote: > On Monday 27 December 2004 12:32 am, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > I think the issue is that packages are not directly uploaded to testing. > > So it is possible to have version X of package A installed in testing. > >... > > If a seriou

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-26 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 02:42:31PM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > > On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 10:05 -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > Sid is probably not the right choice if you need to run a nuclear > > > defense grid, but for day to day work on the desktop and even on > > > servers, it's plenty st

Re: Alternate OSes based on Debian

2004-12-26 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 08:43:43PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Carl Fink wrote: > >On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 08:17:03PM -0200, Rog?rio Brito wrote: > > > >>On Dec 26 2004, Mauro Darida wrote: > >> > >>>The folks there should change the name: I would never use a thing > >>>named _ubuntu_. Btw, Hur

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 22:39 -0600, Tim Kelley wrote: > On Saturday 25 December 2004 10:05, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > Sid is probably not the right choice if you need to run a nuclear > > defense grid, but for day to day work on the desktop and even on > > servers, it's plenty stable enough in m

Re: Debian sarge and production servers is it ready on 12/26/2004?

2004-12-26 Thread Mitchell Laks
On Monday 27 December 2004 12:32 am, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > I think the issue is that packages are not directly uploaded to testing. > So it is possible to have version X of package A installed in testing. >... > If a serious or grave bug is filed, the package simply will not make it > into testi

Re: Debian sarge and production servers is it ready on 12/26/2004?

2004-12-26 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Mitchell Laks wrote: Tim said: If you think testing or unstable is suitable for production systems you are one of 1. an idiot 2. have very limited needs/no experience 3. talking out of your ass 4. have no concept of what it means to be responsible for others' work Even Sarge? I need something more

Re: Debian sarge and production servers is it ready on 12/26/2004?

2004-12-26 Thread Matt Perry
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004, Mitchell Laks wrote: > Even Sarge? I need something more up to date then woody, for my postgresql > and > need the integration that sarge provides, vs backports + woody. Is Sarge that > dangerous on 12/26/2004? I've been running sarge on three production servers and one ho

Re: Debian sarge and production servers is it ready on 12/26/2004?

2004-12-26 Thread Steve Lamb
Mitchell Laks wrote: Tim said: Even Sarge? I need something more up to date then woody, for my postgresql and need the integration that sarge provides, vs backports + woody. Is Sarge that dangerous on 12/26/2004? I want others opinions. I have 2 servers running sarge 24/7 right now (for last 3 w

Re: [CVS] Merging external snapshot to local repository

2004-12-26 Thread Mateusz Łoskot
User Sam Watkins wrote:: On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 04:47:53AM +0100, Mateusz ?oskot wrote: I'm running Debian and looking for some tools and solutions which could help me with merging external snapshot of some project into my own local version of it in the CVS repository. There is a progam called cvs

Debian sarge and production servers is it ready on 12/26/2004?

2004-12-26 Thread Mitchell Laks
Tim said: > If you think testing or unstable is suitable for production systems you are > one of > > 1. an idiot > 2. have very limited needs/no experience > 3. talking out of your ass > 4. have no concept of what it means to be responsible for others' work Even Sarge? I need something more up to d

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: Right. However, Windows has some fairly stupid ways of handling user privledges, thus many games require Administrator rights. So guess what most people run as in Windows? Yup. I certainly ran as Admin under Win2k because I just didn't want to mess with it. No sudo or

numlockx problem?

2004-12-26 Thread Rob Benton
First let me make sure I'm looking at the right file: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/55numlockx /etc/X11/Xsession.d/55numlockx.dpkg-dist The first one is the currently installed version right? It contains: ( test -x /usr/bin/X11/numlockx && /usr/bin/X11/numlockx on ) but the numlockx package has its executabl

Re: OT - The Latest OS Offering from Microsoft

2004-12-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 26 December 2004 3:11 pm, Scarletdown wrote: > http://internet.ls-la.net/pictures/images/Computer/Windows-Cement.png > > Just had to share that with everyone. At least, I thought it was > rather amusing. :D That would have been on topic on debian-curisoa, and it's a few years old n

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 26 December 2004 5:05 pm, Carl Fink wrote: > Without taking up the issue of "my mailer is better than Outlook" (of > course it is) XP's filesystem permissions *also* limit damage to > user-owned files. Right. However, Windows has some fairly stupid ways of handling user privledges, th

mouse & xf86conf-4

2004-12-26 Thread Jim
I am running kernel 2.6.10 on a asus-pt4 mb, debian testing, geforce4 mx4000 video card. I have a 3 button serial mouse and I want the middle button to copy what I have highlighted, but don't know what to alter in my xf86config-4 file. Please note that when I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-26 Thread William Ballard
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 10:39:47PM -0600, Tim Kelley wrote: > I am getting really sick of people pushing sid for production use. Please > stop > doing it. I don't really care if it meets your needs. If it does, you are a > tiny minority; your experience with it in this capacity is anecdotal, a

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-26 Thread Tim Kelley
On Saturday 25 December 2004 10:05, Alex Malinovich wrote: > Sid is probably not the right choice if you need to run a nuclear > defense grid, but for day to day work on the desktop and even on > servers, it's plenty stable enough in my experience. You've got to be kidding me. I've run sid for ab

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 26 December 2004 10:57 am, Ryan D'Baisse wrote: > Okay, I'm confused. Does Debian not use the Linux kernel? Yes, but not always. You have your choice of Linux, GNU/Hurd, GNU/FreeBSD, and GNU/NetBSD. Check out the Debian Ports page for more information. http://www.debian.org/ports

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Rogério Brito
On Dec 26 2004, Ron Johnson wrote: > Because w32codecs and ndiswrappers are x86 binary packages, they tie > many people to x86-32 (even in a chroot) who would rather go whole > hog to x86-64. Not only that, but all the other platforms (like ppc) that receive less attention that x86-64. You have to

Re: Console Password Manager?

2004-12-26 Thread William Ballard
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 11:19:13PM -0500, Douglas Ward wrote: > If you just want something for carrying encrypted passwords, get an older > model Palm from eBay; many of the +4 year old models are > $30 and less. It's useless to carry around encrypted data when the private key is also on the de

Re: ACPI Problems

2004-12-26 Thread James Vahn
Ryan wrote: > Sure, but the logic I use is simple: If I'm not willing to blow away > the box then I'm not going to try to install something I know nothing > about. Since I need to be productive, without any downtime, (it's my > primary box) I need to ensure I can recover from whatever may happen.

Re: Console Password Manager?

2004-12-26 Thread Douglas Ward
On 2004-Dec-21 23:19, Jacob S wrote: > > Except that my usb keychain was only $35 US. I'm still a little too > cheap to buy a Palm. One of these days I'll probably do that too, > though. > > And yes, I realize the security holes in using an unknown computer to > read passwords from a usb drive. I'

reverse dns lookup problem on ssh debian vs redhat

2004-12-26 Thread Mitchell Laks
Hi! I recently switched to debian Sarge (and sid) for all of my work (YAY I LOVE IT!). Now, until now, I had been using redhat 7.3 for my servers. I have many redhat 7.3 servers, and now, I have installed 2 debian sarge servers (i know it is not yet released, but I have tested it for months a

Re: Umask 002 policy

2004-12-26 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Cameron Hutchison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041222 14:56]: > # find $dir -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chmod g=u,o=-rwx To reduce this yet further, you could do it as chmod -R g=u $dir This handles both directories and files in one pass, setting group perms equal to user perms, and nothing else (no m

Kerberos-authentication in Evolution

2004-12-26 Thread Andreas Ehn
Hi, Up until a few days ago, I was happily using Kerberos 4 in Evolution to authenticate against a Cyrus IMAP server. Then it suddenly stopped working. Initially, I assumed that something had changed in the server configuration, but then I found this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrep

Re: mutt alternates command

2004-12-26 Thread Mike M
On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 12:53:05AM +, Simon Huggins wrote: > On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 08:39:24AM +0800, Robert Vangel wrote: > > Mike M wrote: > > >2. What's the proper way to read /usr/share/doc/mutt/NEWS.Debian.gz? > > > I used: > > > # cd /usr/share/doc/mutt/ > > > # gunzip NEWS.Debian.

Re: php plugin for emacs

2004-12-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Mon, 2004-12-27 at 05:05 +0800, Lian Liming wrote: > Hi all, > > I am using debian/unstable. I want to know which package i need to > install that can enable php syntax highlight in emacs editor. I have > used "aptitude search" but can't find related packages. Either html-helper-mode

Re: ACPI Problems

2004-12-26 Thread Ryan D'Baisse
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 16:09:42 -0800, James Vahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Understandable, but I don't think it's necessary to "blow away" the > box. At install time, it should be possible to switch to a shell and > simply rename your /home (or whatever) directory and remove the rest > manually

Webcam in Debian

2004-12-26 Thread Andreas Ehn
Hi, I'm looking for a webcam for video-conferencing that is well-supported by Debian sid. I will probably have to go for a USB model, since my laptop only provides unpowered IEEE 1394 (FireWire). Do you have any recommendations? Is a camera with an autofocus lens worth the extra money? Thanks in

Re: folder /etc/sysconfig/ in debian

2004-12-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 22:36 +0100, Yevgen Reznichenko wrote: > Hello, > > I found on the net a how-to for setting up of my IrDA device. > Unfortunately the how-to is written for RedHat and points to some file > /etc/sysconfig/irda where I have to change some values: > > DEVICE=/dev/ttyS2 to DEV

Re: Alternate OSes based on Debian

2004-12-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 20:43 -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Carl Fink wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 08:17:03PM -0200, Rogério Brito wrote: > > > >>On Dec 26 2004, Mauro Darida wrote: > >> > >>>The folks there should change the name: I would never use a thing > >>>named _ubuntu_. Btw, Hurd is a

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: Well, Linux is certainly less user friendly (especially if you have difficulty with english as localization is quite poor) but if you take Not true. Linux is *quite* user friendly. It just happens to be very picky about who its friends are :-) -Roberto signature.asc Des

Re: Alternate OSes based on Debian

2004-12-26 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 08:17:03PM -0200, Rogério Brito wrote: On Dec 26 2004, Mauro Darida wrote: The folks there should change the name: I would never use a thing named _ubuntu_. Btw, Hurd is a name as horrible as ubuntu. And what about using something called Debian? Is that a "g

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 08:20:49PM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > If you aren't in a domain new users in XP are by default added to the > Admins group. In reality almost everybody at Microsoft ran as Admin on > their own box. There are Linux distributions that do the same thing (Linspire?). -

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread William Ballard
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 08:05:46PM -0500, Carl Fink wrote: > Without taking up the issue of "my mailer is better than Outlook" (of > course it is) XP's filesystem permissions *also* limit damage to > user-owned files. If you aren't in a domain new users in XP are by default added to the Admins gr

Re: Alternate OSes based on Debian

2004-12-26 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 08:17:03PM -0200, Rogério Brito wrote: > On Dec 26 2004, Mauro Darida wrote: > > The folks there should change the name: I would never use a thing > > named _ubuntu_. Btw, Hurd is a name as horrible as ubuntu. > > And what about using something called Debian? Is that a "goo

php plugin for emacs

2004-12-26 Thread Lian Liming
Hi all, I am using debian/unstable. I want to know which package i need to install that can enable php syntax highlight in emacs editor. I have used "aptitude search" but can't find related packages. Thank you for suggestions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 11:15:01AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 10:50 -0500, Carl Fink wrote: > > Well, no. Most email viruses are scripts executed by the mailer. If you > > have a script-executing mailer there's no reason it couldn't execute a virus > > under Linux. > > Ve

Re: mutt alternates command

2004-12-26 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 the mental interface of Robert Vangel told: > Mike M wrote: > > >2. What's the proper way to read /usr/share/doc/mutt/NEWS.Debian.gz? > > > > I used: > > # cd /usr/share/doc/mutt/ > > # gunzip NEWS.Debian.gz > > # vi NEWS.Debian > > > > It worked but it seems there s

Re: mutt alternates command

2004-12-26 Thread Simon Huggins
On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 08:39:24AM +0800, Robert Vangel wrote: > Mike M wrote: > >2. What's the proper way to read /usr/share/doc/mutt/NEWS.Debian.gz? > > I used: > > # cd /usr/share/doc/mutt/ > > # gunzip NEWS.Debian.gz > > # vi NEWS.Debian > > > > It worked but it seems there should be

Re: mutt alternates command

2004-12-26 Thread Robert Vangel
Mike M wrote: 2. What's the proper way to read /usr/share/doc/mutt/NEWS.Debian.gz? I used: # cd /usr/share/doc/mutt/ # gunzip NEWS.Debian.gz # vi NEWS.Debian It worked but it seems there should be some sort of tool. Whenever I have things like that, I use gzip -dc |less Would be good

Re: ACPI Problems

2004-12-26 Thread James Vahn
Ryan D'Baisse wrote: > v3.7 and have to disable ACPI to get it to boot. I have not yet > attempted "sarge" because I am not at a point where I can blow away my > box. My goal, however, is to be running Debian (I'm somewhat sick of > the Fedora pace.) Understandable, but I don't think it's necess

mutt alternates command

2004-12-26 Thread Mike M
Hi, I just switched from mutt 1.3 on woody to 1.5 on Sid. I bumped into the change from set alternates="foo | bar" to alternates "foo | bar" described in this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/06/msg00150.html (ooh, highlighting on the links :-) The change fixed the p

Re: ACPI Problems

2004-12-26 Thread Ryan D'Baisse
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 01:04:32 +0100, Andrea Vettorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Have you tried with google? This is one of the first link: > http://tuxmobil.org/toshiba_s5005_s504.html > Yeah, I found that a few days ago. It mentions ACPI, but doesn't really detail how to solve any problem

Re: ACPI Problems

2004-12-26 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:26:12 -0500, Ryan D'Baisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess, at this point, I am not entirely sure where to begin. I am > looking for guidance with ACPI. > > I am currently running FC2 with kernel 2.6.5-1.358 and cannot go past > it on either FC3 or, apparently, anythin

lvm2

2004-12-26 Thread messmate
Hi, is there a sarge/lvm2 bug ?? All ..remove functions doesn't work :( mess-mate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian Geek Toolkit Question

2004-12-26 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:46:23 -0700, Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sarge NetInstall is great for installing Sarge, but it > appears not to be usable as a live CD for booting onto > a system that has a broken installation. In the past > I have used Woody install CDs for this purpose, and

Re: Gimp select tool

2004-12-26 Thread Roel Schroeven
Alex Malinovich wrote: Could you elaborate on changing the size and borders of a selection in The Gimp? I've worked with it for quite a while at home and at work and I've NEVER been able to resize a selection once it's been made. I know about the "add" and "subtract" modes, but what I'd like is to

OT - The Latest OS Offering from Microsoft

2004-12-26 Thread Scarletdown
http://internet.ls-la.net/pictures/images/Computer/Windows-Cement.png Just had to share that with everyone. At least, I thought it was rather amusing. :D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-26 Thread William Ballard
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 11:08:17PM +0100, Marc Demlenne wrote: > Seems to be a good way to operate, rather secure... But isn't there a > way to manage this automatically ? It doesn't sounds impossible nor > stupid, does it ? It's really easy to set up your own "dists" directory with a tweaked 'Pa

Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card

2004-12-26 Thread Thomas Hood
Um, I think you're trying to build the 2.4 modules from the source package (the /usr/src/modules/alsa gives it away). With 2.6, you need to build the modules within the kernel tree itself. Please note, first, that ALSA modules are shipped in kernel-image-2.6* packages, so if you ar

Debian Geek Toolkit Question

2004-12-26 Thread Paul E Condon
Sarge NetInstall is great for installing Sarge, but it appears not to be usable as a live CD for booting onto a system that has a broken installation. In the past I have used Woody install CDs for this purpose, and before Woody I used Knoppix. More recently, I've noticed that the latest versions of

Re: Alternate OSes based on Debian

2004-12-26 Thread Rogério Brito
On Dec 26 2004, Mauro Darida wrote: > The folks there should change the name: I would never use a thing > named _ubuntu_. Btw, Hurd is a name as horrible as ubuntu. And what about using something called Debian? Is that a "good name" or a "commercially feasible name"? Perhaps you have that impress

ACPI Problems

2004-12-26 Thread Ryan D'Baisse
I guess, at this point, I am not entirely sure where to begin. I am looking for guidance with ACPI. I am currently running FC2 with kernel 2.6.5-1.358 and cannot go past it on either FC3 or, apparently, anything else. I have tried updating the kernel on FC2 to 2.6.9-1.6_FC2 and have to disable A

Sarge kernel 2.6.8-1 net connect problem

2004-12-26 Thread Cousin Stanley
Greetings debian users I have an up-to-date Debian Sarge installation that's been running fine with the 2.4.27-1-386 kernel for several months on a 5 year-old 250 MHz Compaq A couple of days ago I tried a 2.6.8-1-386 kernel via apt-get install The 2.6 kernel b

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-26 Thread Marc Demlenne
> With that said, what I usually do for my servers is do an update every > two weeks, storing the list of packages that WOULD be upgraded in a text > file. Then when I do my next update, I compare that list vs the list of > two weeks ago and only install the packages that HAVEN'T changed. This > gi

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Jozsef Mak
From: Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debuser Subject: Re: Linux Functionality? Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 13:33:26 -0600 On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 13:18 -0500, Jozsef Mak wrote: --snip-- This will move the entire selection box. What I want to do is RESIZE the selection box. (Like you would resi

folder /etc/sysconfig/ in debian

2004-12-26 Thread Yevgen Reznichenko
Hello, I found on the net a how-to for setting up of my IrDA device. Unfortunately the how-to is written for RedHat and points to some file /etc/sysconfig/irda where I have to change some values: DEVICE=/dev/ttyS2 to DEVICE=/dev/ttyS1 Who knows the debian equivalent for this file? Yevgen -- To U

Re: {advocay] Linspire machine

2004-12-26 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 01:38:11PM -0500, Ryan D'Baisse wrote: > Ya' know, that has been something which I have wondered about. While > I like what Linspire is trying to do (i.e. produce consumer-priced > machines with Linux) I am somewhat fearful of their approach. They > could do a lot of damag

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Olav
Op zo, 26-12-2004 te 16:46 +1100, schreef Sam Watkins: > For example, windows XP and Max OS X have a user-interface for switching > between multiples users' desktops. We don't have such an interface in > Debian / under X as far as I know, Ubuntu is also Debian, it is distributed with Gnome 2.8

codec_write 0: semaphore is not ready

2004-12-26 Thread Yves Grenier
Hello, I am using debian testing, kernel 2.6.7, on an asus laptop with Intel 855GM chipset. I get no sound, and dmesg shows a lot of lines like: codec_semaphore: semaphore is not ready [0x1][0x700300] or: codec_write 0: semaphore is not ready for register 0x2c I saw posts advising to put snd-inte

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Olav
Op zo, 26-12-2004 te 20:33 +, schreef Jean-Michel Hiver: > With debian, installing programs is a breeze though (using command > line tools): > > To find a program: > > apt-cache search > > To install it: > > apt-get install > > To upgrade your system: > > apt-get update >

Re: Debian vs. Fedora on Laptops

2004-12-26 Thread William Ballard
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 02:56:47PM -0600, Skylar Thompson wrote: > To a large extent, those books will apply to any distribution. The > biggest difference between Red Hat and Debian is the package system. > Everything else is pretty much the same. A lot of files are in different places. I expect

Re: Debian and Dell?

2004-12-26 Thread Skylar Thompson
Ed Sutherland wrote: Do any Debian users have Linux installed on a Dell desktop with a flat-panel monitor? If so, I'll need help finding the correct video configuration. A quick check using Knoppix results in the video mode being unknown. Thanks. What kind of video card and LCD are you using? -

Re: Debian vs. Fedora on Laptops

2004-12-26 Thread Skylar Thompson
Ryan D'Baisse wrote: I am looking to move from FC2 to Debian, but have questions... 1. I am still a Linux newbie. Most of the install issues, both with the OS and with applications, have been taken care of for me with the slick install wizard and the RPM-based installations. How much of a learnin

Re: Program to display process information (especially sockets)

2004-12-26 Thread Joao Pedro Clemente
> > One thing I would like to know how to do, but I don't think it's > > possible, is to find out what process is on the other end of a pipe. > > If that were possible, I could write a graphical system display tool, > > that shows you all your processes and how they're connected together. > > > >

Re: {advocay] Linspire machine

2004-12-26 Thread JohnOfArc
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:28:08 -0500, stan wrote: > On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 10:46:12AM -0500, JohnOfArc wrote: >> On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:01:12 -0500, stan wrote: >> we may not like it, but the overwhelming majority of desktop users run >> MS, and most folks probably have a few copies floating aroun

Re: Debian on SATA HD

2004-12-26 Thread Joao Pedro Clemente
I installed sarge from debian-net-installer and I needed to boot with "linux26" to get my SATA disks seen in a Asus P5GD1 Pro (ICH6R controller) Normal (2.4) installer would not see disks. I've read somewhere that ICH6R support is only in 2.4.28+ kernels. (debian sarge net installer uses 2.4.27) B

Debian and Dell?

2004-12-26 Thread Ed Sutherland
Do any Debian users have Linux installed on a Dell desktop with a flat-panel monitor? If so, I'll need help finding the correct video configuration. A quick check using Knoppix results in the video mode being unknown. Thanks. Ed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 12:26:33PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Last time I looked Debian included about 14,000. How many does Microsoft > Windows include? No, no, no. An average user will ask "can I run application X, Y, Z (which I absolutely need) on this system?". The point is not how much thi

Re: resolv.conf

2004-12-26 Thread Alan Chandler
Lets not take this to private mail - keep it on the list On Saturday 25 December 2004 09:51, you wrote: > Dear Alan, > > I logged in root to access /etc/resolv.conf Thats not what I meant. What at the file access rights and owner/group of the /etc/resolv.conf file? ... > - Original Message

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 14:42 -0500, William Ballard wrote: > > On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 10:05 -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > Sid is probably not the right choice if you need to run a nuclear > > > defense grid, but for day to day work on the desktop and even on > > > servers, it's plenty stable en

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 11:37 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Alex Malinovich wrote: > > Debian - a distribution which uses the Linux kernel with the GNU OS > > tools and a whole bunch of associated userland applications > > Bzt. Debian, a project which puts together distributions of various > ker

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 12:48 +0100, Jon-Eirik Pettersen wrote: > Sam Watkins wrote: > > For example, windows XP and Max OS X have a user-interface for switching > > between multiples users' desktops. We don't have such an interface in > > Debian / under X as far as I know, but it possible to do the

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 20:33 +, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: --snip-- > Well, Linux is certainly less user friendly (especially if you have > difficulty with english as localization is quite poor) but if you take --snip-- I'm actually really surprised that you find the localization poor. In my ex

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-26 Thread William Ballard
> On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 10:05 -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > Sid is probably not the right choice if you need to run a nuclear > > defense grid, but for day to day work on the desktop and even on > > servers, it's plenty stable enough in my experience. Running unstable on an outward-facing serv

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 11:32 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: > > Well, Linux is certainly less user friendly (especially if you have > > difficulty with english as localization is quite poor) > > Although I cannot comment on the localization issue let's please not > repea

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Steve Lamb
Alex Malinovich wrote: Debian - a distribution which uses the Linux kernel with the GNU OS tools and a whole bunch of associated userland applications Bzt. Debian, a project which puts together distributions of various kernels, userland tools and applications the most famous of which is their

Re: Backup-software FTP

2004-12-26 Thread Darryl Clarke
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:09:43 +0100, Jon-Eirik Pettersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What would you recommend of software to do simple directory-based > backups to an FTP-server? > the ncftp package comes with 'ncftpput' and 'ncftpget' - it's handy for scripted uploading/downloading via FTP. --

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 13:18 -0500, Jozsef Mak wrote: --snip-- > >(This has always been a pet peeve of mine with The Gimp, though I > >believe Photoshop suffers from it as well. WHY OH WHY can't we drag the > >borders of a selection after we've made it??!?!?!) > > You can. In Gimp make a selection,

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Steve Lamb
Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: Well, Linux is certainly less user friendly (especially if you have difficulty with english as localization is quite poor) Although I cannot comment on the localization issue let's please not repeat this particular piece of FUD. Studies of children who have never use

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Wim De Smet
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 13:27:41 -0600, Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 13:57 -0500, Ryan D'Baisse wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:48:24 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Debian is not Linux. > > > > > > > > > Okay, I'm confused. Does Debian

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 13:57 -0500, Ryan D'Baisse wrote: > On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:48:24 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Debian is not Linux. > > > > > Okay, I'm confused. Does Debian not use the Linux kernel? > > Not trying to be rude... I'm a newbie (still downloading

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Adam Aube
Ryan D'Baisse wrote: > On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:48:24 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Debian is not Linux. > Okay, I'm confused. Does Debian not use the Linux kernel? Yes, it uses the Linux kernel. However, the kernel itself is NOT a complete operating system - it needs userlan

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Steve Lamb
Jon-Eirik Pettersen wrote: Sam Watkins wrote: For example, windows XP and Max OS X have a user-interface for switching between multiples users' desktops. We don't have such an interface in Debian / under X as far as I know, but it possible to do the same sort of thing from the command line, it's j

Re: Debian sid and "risk management"

2004-12-26 Thread Matt Barry
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 10:05 -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > [snip] > > Sid is probably not the right choice if you need to run a nuclear > defense grid, but for day to day work on the desktop and even on > servers, it's plenty stable enough in my experience. I agree with this, with the caveat tha

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Ryan D'Baisse
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:48:24 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Debian is not Linux. > Okay, I'm confused. Does Debian not use the Linux kernel? Not trying to be rude... I'm a newbie (still downloading Debian). Thanx, Ryan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 12:26 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Curt Howland wrote > > None of which, last I looked, was included in Windows from Microsoft. > > > Ron Johnson writes: > > Well heck, if that's the tack you're going to take: how many > > *applicat

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Stefan Strasser
John Hasler schrieb: Curt Howland wrote None of which, last I looked, was included in Windows from Microsoft. Ron Johnson writes: Well heck, if that's the tack you're going to take: how many *applications* are written for *Linux*? Last time I looked Deb

Re: Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread John Hasler
Curt Howland wrote > None of which, last I looked, was included in Windows from Microsoft. Ron Johnson writes: > Well heck, if that's the tack you're going to take: how many > *applications* are written for *Linux*? Last time I looked Debian included a

Re: {advocay] Linspire machine

2004-12-26 Thread Ryan D'Baisse
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 13:31:48 -0500, Michael Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > She may well be right. I can't speak for Northgate's motives in this > regard, but I think that I can fairly say that their implementation > is slipshod and does not reinforce a customer's decision to purchase > a l

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