Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread Alan Chandler
On Wednesday 17 November 2004 00:44, Michael Z Daryabeygi wrote: > > Don't sent html to this mailing list -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. --Gandhi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subj

Re: [OT] Pat needs our help

2004-11-16 Thread Vin Jacob
Sharninder Khera wrote: Hi All, First of all, sorry for this OT post and I'm prepared to be flamed for this but I think we should all read the txt below and give it a thought and help, if we can. ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/PAT-NEEDS-YOUR-HELP. txt -- Sharninder Why

Re: Antivirus/Antispyware/Antiadware for linux?

2004-11-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 21:25 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Sven Hoexter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> But F-Prot sucks by default because it is nonfree. Check out clamav > >> instead. http://www.clamav.net/ > > > > Well and to close the cir

Re: how to edit a pdf file in linux

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Lorenz
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 08:08:26PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 01:23:05PM +0100, Martin Lorenz wrote: > > In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > > >>>I have just complete a PDF form using both acroba

Re: Antivirus/Antispyware/Antiadware for linux?

2004-11-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 21:27 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> That's not free. They just don't charge you any money. > > > > Of course it is. > > > > $ dict free > > [snip] > > {Free cost}, freedom from

login script & xterm

2004-11-16 Thread ms419
Where should I put commands to be executed when I login, & when I open an xterm, but not when a shell is run on other occasions? I want some commands executed when I login, but not when a shell is otherwise run, so I put them in my ~/.login, vs. my ~/.bashrc. Unfortunately, they aren't executed

Re: Base system install- eval: 3: Syntax error: newline unexpected (expecting ")")

2004-11-16 Thread Paul E Condon
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 12:04:40AM -0500, Allen Williams wrote: > Trying to install sarge (woody doesn't have the support for my intel 1000M > ethernet card), plain vanilla x86 hardware: Linux system was previously > installed. I've tried four or five different releases of sarge, with > different

[OT] Pat needs our help

2004-11-16 Thread Sharninder Khera
Hi All, First of all, sorry for this OT post and I'm prepared to be flamed for this but I think we should all read the txt below and give it a thought and help, if we can. ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/PAT-NEEDS-YOUR-HELP. txt -- Sharninder -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: route takes long time to give the table

2004-11-16 Thread H. S.
Apparently, _Riccardo Tortorici_, on 16/11/04 22:39,typed: Check your iptables settings...I had this problem months ago... What did you find your problem was? How did you solve it? ->HS H. S. wrote: On Debian Testing running 2.6.7,the 'route' command is taking unusually long time to give the tabl

Re: Antivirus/Antispyware/Antiadware for linux?

2004-11-16 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> That's not free. They just don't charge you any money. > > Of course it is. > > $ dict free > [snip] > {Free cost}, freedom from charges or expenses. --South. > [snip] The default free in the context of fre

Re: Antivirus/Antispyware/Antiadware for linux?

2004-11-16 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Hoexter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> But F-Prot sucks by default because it is nonfree. Check out clamav >> instead. http://www.clamav.net/ > > Well and to close the circle clamav sucks by default cause the virus > database is not maintained

Base system install- eval: 3: Syntax error: newline unexpected (expecting ")")

2004-11-16 Thread Allen Williams
Trying to install sarge (woody doesn't have the support for my intel 1000M ethernet card), plain vanilla x86 hardware: Linux system was previously installed. I've tried four or five different releases of sarge, with different dates, and searched email archives and Google and found (almost) nothing

Re: Testing to Sarge "sources.list"

2004-11-16 Thread Brian Nelson
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 08:23:16PM -0500, Ralph Crongeyer wrote: > Hi all, > Hey, is now a good time to switch my sources from "testing" to "sarge"? If you have to ask, you shouldn't even be running testing in the first place. -- For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: route takes long time to give the table

2004-11-16 Thread Adam Aube
H. S. wrote: > On Debian Testing running 2.6.7,the 'route' command is taking unusually > long time to give the table: > However, 'route -n' command gives the output almost instantly. By default, 'route' attempts to resolve the IP addresses into hostnames. The extra time of 'route' vs 'route -n'

Re: route takes long time to give the table

2004-11-16 Thread Riccardo Tortorici
Check your iptables settings...I had this problem months ago... H. S. wrote: On Debian Testing running 2.6.7,the 'route' command is taking unusually long time to give the table: ~# time route Kernel IP routing table DestinationGateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface x.y.z.z

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread David P James
On November 16, 2004 19:44, Michael Z Daryabeygi wrote: Please reconfigure Thunderbird to stop sending out HTML-only messages (is this some kind of new default setting with TB?) > > Okay I'm done, this has gone to far. Yep And have you got TB set to top-post as well? > > > William Ballard

route takes long time to give the table

2004-11-16 Thread H. S.
On Debian Testing running 2.6.7,the 'route' command is taking unusually long time to give the table: ~# time route Kernel IP routing table DestinationGateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface x.y.z.z* 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 192.168.1.0

Re: ip masquerading

2004-11-16 Thread Daniel Asarnow
Thanks for the advice. It looks like I'll be at this for a while...if I can't make any headway with it, I'll ask for more help Thanks again, da On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 03:11:38 -0600, Yusuf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your firewall rules look, uh, ugly, meaning, not meant for human eyes. > You sh

Re: strange error message when trying to upgrade

2004-11-16 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 00:27:21 + (GMT) Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- "Rodney D. Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any idea how to correct this? > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=281601 > > -- Thomas Adam Just grabbed the "new" file listed in the bug rep

Re: Testing to Sarge "sources.list"

2004-11-16 Thread Adam Aube
Ralph Crongeyer wrote: > Hey, is now a good time to switch my sources from "testing" to "sarge"? If you want to track Sarge, not Testing, after Sarge becomes stable. Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: lilo and mbr

2004-11-16 Thread Punit Ahluwalia
Thanks for responding. But this is exactly what i am doing. I am booting off the boot floppy with my previous kernel. I guess my question is: Is there a way I can find out how the MBR is configured? --- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 11:34:14AM -0800, Punit A

Re: Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-16 Thread Brian Pack
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 19:49 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > David Jardine writes: > > vi is the bee's knees. Sod emacs. aptitude is rubbish. Stick to > > apt-get. > > > Is that better? > > Much. Let's have flamewars about things that _matter_. Such as this: Sarge. D-I. Sarge. D-I. Think about it

Re: Testing to Sarge "sources.list"

2004-11-16 Thread Ralph Crongeyer
On Tuesday 16 November 2004 09:09 pm, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Maybe I should say: It seems close to release time for Sarge. Would now be a good time to start tracking Sarge instead of testing? I don't want to continue doing updates past the release and then have to backtrack. Thanks Ralph > Ralp

[solved] SSH host key stored with IP, not host name

2004-11-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.09.2318 +0100]: > Why is node01 being identified by its IP only Also thanks to weasel, this was due to the IP address missing from the comma-separated list preceeding each key in the global ssh_known_hosts file. If the line only reads nod

[solved] SSH hostkey authentication and users' known_hosts files

2004-11-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.01.0810 +0100]: > We are successfully using SSH hostkey-based authentication for our > cluster. What I find really strange is that users still get to see > messages like: > > Warning: Permanently added the RSA host key for IP address > '

Re: Testing to Sarge "sources.list"

2004-11-16 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Ralph Crongeyer wrote: Hi all, Hey, is now a good time to switch my sources from "testing" to "sarge"? Thanks Ralph That depends on your purpose in so doing, the primary function of your system and whether you prefer to continue to track testing for more current software or want a more stable syste

Re: Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-16 Thread John Hasler
David Jardine writes: > vi is the bee's knees. Sod emacs. aptitude is rubbish. Stick to > apt-get. > Is that better? Much. Let's have flamewars about things that _matter_. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAI

Re: apt-get Failure

2004-11-16 Thread Riccardo Tortorici
As Thomas previously suggested: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=281601 bye Robert Tilley wrote: The sed package causes apt-get upgrade to stop. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get -f upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages have been ke

Re: apt-get Failure

2004-11-16 Thread Michael Spang
Sed's postinst contains this line, which fails: sudo install-info --quiet --section "General commands" "General commands" /usr/share/info/sed.info The bug is apparently resolved so a fix should be on the way. Robert Tilley wrote: The sed package causes apt-get upgrade to stop. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~

apt-get Failure

2004-11-16 Thread Robert Tilley
The sed package causes apt-get upgrade to stop. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get -f upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages have been kept back: libqt3-compat-headers libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev libqt3c102-mt qt3-dev-tools The following packag

Re: NFS

2004-11-16 Thread Mike
Perhaps this is what you're looking for? Package: nfs-kernel-server Priority: optional Section: net Installed-Size: 196 Maintainer: Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NFS exports are configured in /etc/exports Tom Allison wrote: Um... I'm kind of stuck on something that seems too simple... NFS wi

Re: NFS

2004-11-16 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Tom Allison said on Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 08:31:39PM -0500: > Um... I'm kind of stuck on something that seems too simple... > > NFS with kernel 2.6.8. > > I have nfs-common installed, but I can't seem to find any other packages > to configure it. I'm a little stuck because I'm trying to install

NFS

2004-11-16 Thread Tom Allison
Um... I'm kind of stuck on something that seems too simple... NFS with kernel 2.6.8. I have nfs-common installed, but I can't seem to find any other packages to configure it. I'm a little stuck because I'm trying to install LTSP and it's complaining that I have nothing installed for NFS. -- To

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread John Hasler
Michael Z Daryabeygi writes: > Human beings are multi-faceted. Free Software benefits from intellectual > people who have many interests. There are other mailing lists for your other interests. > You are arguing that politics is irrelevant and relevant at the same > time. Perhaps he is, but I a

Testing to Sarge "sources.list"

2004-11-16 Thread Ralph Crongeyer
Hi all, Hey, is now a good time to switch my sources from "testing" to "sarge"? Thanks Ralph -- Linux, to keep you humble. pgpKPdrLlZb6S.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: BIG filesystems, Big Files, Transparent Compression?

2004-11-16 Thread Phillip Lougher
Hi, Alex Malinovich wrote: WRT the actual topic, squashfs is supposed to handle files up to 4 GB without problems. I have not heard of any 2 GB file problems with it, but my interest in squashfs has been purely academic. I've never run it in a business environment. While it is a read-only filesyste

[solved] zsh: weird variable expansion

2004-11-16 Thread martin f krafft
sorry, this was due to the rc_expand_param zsh option, which was set in a script I accidentally sourced. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debi

Re: BIG filesystems, Big Files, Transparent Compression?

2004-11-16 Thread Phillip Lougher
Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have seen cramfs and squashfs both of which have sub 2GB filesize limit problems and read/write random access issues. So they don't fit my needs. Please don't respond saying "just gzip each file" duh... I already thought of that. Hi, Squashfs has a 4 GB filesi

Re: shutdown won't shutdown

2004-11-16 Thread Robert Storey
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:08:32 -0500 jwyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. Nothing will seem to poweroff my PC. I have tried various > commands, all with the same results. shutdown -h now > powerdown > halt > $ su -c '/sbin/halt' Try passing this option to the kernel: apm=power-off You d

Re: Firewall on DSL router - good enough?

2004-11-16 Thread Tim Kelley
On Monday 15 November 2004 19:39, Davor_Balder/FOAMS/PACBRANDS/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > > I have recently acquired a router/dsl modem with built-in firewall > (according to manufacturers technical documentation) and am planning to use > it with my Debian box. > > I have noticed there i

Re: Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-16 Thread Michael Z Daryabeygi
i was speaking for myself and those who commented that they didn't mind. I really don't think Curt was trying to be divisive? Are we really so fickle? Am I really not going to seek your help or value your opinion on debian if I think you are a political dolt? Come on people.  I don't care what

Re: Bizarre NFS Problem

2004-11-16 Thread Tim Kelley
On Tuesday 16 November 2004 08:45, Derek "The Monkey" Wueppelmann wrote: > I know this is an old thread now, but I finally got a chance to try out > the above. And while I was very hopeful in that it might work it still > ended up with the same results. I don't know about everybody else but I > am

Re: Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-16 Thread David Jardine
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 05:47:43PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > Inflammatory political comments are divisive, and those who post them know > it. vi is the bee's knees. Sod emacs. aptitude is rubbish. Stick to apt-get. Is that better? -- David Jardine "Running Debian GNU/Linux and loving e

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread Michael Z Daryabeygi
He didn't throw a stick of dynamite! His comment was about the media. not about politics. You  were just a ticking time bomb. You are so contradictory.  You claim that Curt was allowing the interpretation that Open Source is motivated by a Bin Laden like jihad against microsoft.  You were the o

zsh: weird variable expansion

2004-11-16 Thread martin f krafft
I have the following Z shell function: pub () { scp -q $@ albatross:public_html/scratch ssh albatross "cd public_html/scratch && chmod 0644 $@" } When I run it on multiple files, however, something weird happens: cirrus:/tmp> touch a b cirrus:/tmp> set -x cirrus:/tmp> pub a b + pub a b + scp

Re: strange error message when trying to upgrade

2004-11-16 Thread Robert Vangel
I'm wondering... should I delay mine...? Riccardo Tortorici wrote: Maybe is a bug... I've encountered it 10 minutes ago after an apt-get upgrade on "sid"... Rodney D. Myers wrote: smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: strange error message when trying to upgrade

2004-11-16 Thread Thomas Adam
--- "Rodney D. Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any idea how to correct this? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=281601 -- Thomas Adam = "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- http://linuxgazette.net "TAG Editor" -- http://linuxgazette.net " We'll just save up yo

Re: strange error message when trying to upgrade

2004-11-16 Thread Riccardo Tortorici
Maybe is a bug... I've encountered it 10 minutes ago after an apt-get upgrade on "sid"... Rodney D. Myers wrote: I'm running sarge, and just finished running "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade". All usually goes fine, except today. I'm now getting this error message; sudo aptitude upgra

Re: BIG filesystems, Big Files, Transparent Compression?

2004-11-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 18:48 -0500, Ben Russo wrote: > Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > still wondering if there might be an option for a > compressed filesystem anyone?? NTFS? ;) Seriously, though, it's my und

Re: Antivirus/Antispyware/Antiadware for linux?

2004-11-16 Thread Rick Friedman
Juha Siltala wrote: On 2004-11-16, Rick Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: But F-Prot sucks by default because it is nonfree. Check out clamav instead. http://www.clamav.net/ Hmmm... except F-Prot for Linux for the workstation is free for personal use. That's not free. The

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread Freddy Freeloader
William Ballard wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 06:43:54PM -0500, Curt Howland wrote: didn't even get political. I said that reporters and editors tend to miscomprehend motivations that they do not share themselves, even when repeatedly informed of what those motivations are. I then cited a pr

strange error message when trying to upgrade

2004-11-16 Thread Rodney D. Myers
I'm running sarge, and just finished running "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade". All usually goes fine, except today. I'm now getting this error message; sudo aptitude upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree Reading extended state information Initializing packa

Re: ftp servers out the wazoo

2004-11-16 Thread Ben Russo
Andrew Schulman wrote: There is a ridiculous oversupply of ftp servers in Debian: I want something simple, for anonymous access. I was going to use oftpd, which is an anonymous-only server; but it doesn't allow uploads. I like vsftpd It's config file mihgt look like: # lot's of comments

aRTS, nforce3 and sarge

2004-11-16 Thread Sven Olsen
Title: Melding Hi   I installed sarge from weekly isos dated 25/10-2004 on a new computer with nforce3 chipset. Installed with default kernel 2.4.27 First only the the base packages, then x-window-system and finally kdebase.   Installed the kernel-headers  for the kernel and then the newest

Postfix + SASL + Amavis-new + ClamAV + Courier-(imap, imap-ssl, maildrop) problems.

2004-11-16 Thread Ralph Crongeyer
Hi all, I just got my system up and running (went from Mandrake to Debian) and i'm having problems getting Postfix to authenticate with saslauthd. This is on a "Testing"/"Sarge" system. To check that sasl is working, I used the testsaslauthd command: testsaslauthd -u my-username -p my-password -f

Re: Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-16 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:09:25 -0500 Michael Z Daryabeygi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only thing that gets my goat on lists is when people complain > about OT or ask people to take things off list. > lists are first about community. I have been hoping this wouldn't pop up in here. I recently

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 06:43:54PM -0500, Curt Howland wrote: > didn't even get political. I said that reporters and editors tend to > miscomprehend motivations that they do not share themselves, even > when repeatedly informed of what those motivations are. I then cited > a present-day example

Re: shutdown won't shutdown

2004-11-16 Thread Robert Vangel
You can also try loading the APM module (older, but it's the first thing I load whem I'm installing). I had this problem the first few times I installed and was going out of my mind. jwyman wrote: Hi. Nothing will seem to poweroff my PC. I have tried various commands, all with the same resul

Re: BIG filesystems, Big Files, Transparent Compression?

2004-11-16 Thread Ben Russo
Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (see below for long story background ) The last time I created a large HW RAID5 volume (1.6 TB) the kernel was unable to see all of it... If I create several smaller block devices (like 400GB each)

Re: Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-16 Thread John Hasler
Michael Z Daryabeygi writes: > lists are first about community. The value of spontaneous community > fosters the value in name. You can't have the latter without the former. Inflammatory political comments are divisive, and those who post them know it. > So now the community is biting back. Sp

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread Curt Howland
William, I didn't mention Bush, or Iraq, or any of the things you mentioned. I didn't even get political. I said that reporters and editors tend to miscomprehend motivations that they do not share themselves, even when repeatedly informed of what those motivations are. I then cited a present-d

Re: Playing ogg files

2004-11-16 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:17:25 -0500, Jason Rennie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 06:45:16PM +0100, Wim De Smet wrote: > > > via82cxxx_audio21564 1 > > > ac97_codec 13300 0 [via82cxxx_audio] > > > uart401 6436 0 [via82cxxx_audio] > > > s

Re: unstable to testing

2004-11-16 Thread Greg Madden
On Tuesday 16 November 2004 02:14 pm, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > I was just looking at the sources.list file on our Debian server and > I realized we had unstable sources. I would guess that I used > unstable in order to get Samba 3, which maybe wasn't available in > testing at the time. But I don't k

Re: BIG filesystems, Big Files, Transparent Compression?

2004-11-16 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >(see below for long story background ) > >The last time I created a large HW RAID5 volume (1.6 TB) the kernel was >unable to see all of it... If I create several smaller block devices >(like 400GB each) can LVM bind them toget

Re: Antivirus/Antispyware/Antiadware for linux?

2004-11-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 22:50 +, Juha Siltala wrote: > On 2004-11-16, Rick Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul Johnson wrote: > > >> But F-Prot sucks by default because it is nonfree. Check out clamav > >> instead. http://www.clamav.net/ > > > > Hmmm... except F-Prot for Linux for the

Postfix + Amavis-new + ClamAV + SASL + Courier-(imap, imap-ssl, maildrop) problem.

2004-11-16 Thread Ralph Crongeyer
Hi all, I just got my system up and running (went from Mandrake to Debian) and i'm having problems getting Postfix to authenticate with saslauthd. This is on a "Testing"/"Sarge" system. To check that sasl is working, I used the testsaslauthd command: testsaslauthd -u my-username -p my-password

Re: security updates

2004-11-16 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:21:39 +, Rui Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i configured my apt sources.list by apt-setup and i said yes to the questions > about a securityy source but when i run apt-get update it says that the site > isn't there > > what is the line to put in my sources.list file?

Re: security updates

2004-11-16 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Rui Silva: > i configured my apt sources.list by apt-setup and i said yes to the questions > about a securityy source but when i run apt-get update it says that the site > isn't there > > what is the line to put in my sources.list file??? > > i'm running unstable I run stable. M

Re: security updates

2004-11-16 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Rui Silva wrote: i configured my apt sources.list by apt-setup and i said yes to the questions about a securityy source but when i run apt-get update it says that the site isn't there what is the line to put in my sources.list file??? i'm running unstable There are no security updates for unstab

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread Michael Z Daryabeygi
apparently you have no problem with topic drift Why do you speak of Free Software as if it is ADD? Human beings are multi-faceted. Free Software benefits from intellectual people who have many interests. I don't consider a statement that is received 50/50 for/against as a very good zinger

Re: unstable to testing

2004-11-16 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Curtis Vaughan wrote: I was just looking at the sources.list file on our Debian server and I realized we had unstable sources. I would guess that I used unstable in order to get Samba 3, which maybe wasn't available in testing at the time. But I don't know. Anyhow, I would rather be using testin

Re: linux source vs kernel-source

2004-11-16 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:01:26 -0600, Jeremy Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 03:59:11PM -0600, Russ Cook wrote: > > Will the linux-* source files compile and build properly using > > the kernel-package tools? > > Yes, they do. I use them on my own machines. I usually do

security updates

2004-11-16 Thread Rui Silva
i configured my apt sources.list by apt-setup and i said yes to the questions about a securityy source but when i run apt-get update it says that the site isn't there what is the line to put in my sources.list file??? i'm running unstable -- Rui Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux --

Re: Antivirus/Antispyware/Antiadware for linux?

2004-11-16 Thread Brad Sims
Basically to do anything other than nuke /home/$user, you need root privileges, and if you have root; why bother with a virus. -- TIMTOWTDI often means there is more than one really bad way to do it. -- Tim Hammerquist after Tim Cuffel in comp.lang.perl.misc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Re: Antivirus/Antispyware/Antiadware for linux?

2004-11-16 Thread Juha Siltala
On 2004-11-16, Rick Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> But F-Prot sucks by default because it is nonfree. Check out clamav >> instead. http://www.clamav.net/ > > Hmmm... except F-Prot for Linux for the workstation is free for personal > use. That's not free. They just

RE: Antivirus/Antispyware/Antiadware for linux?

2004-11-16 Thread Steven Jones
8>< > > But F-Prot sucks by default because it is nonfree. Check out clamav > instead. http://www.clamav.net/ Well and to close the circle clamav sucks by default cause the virus database is not maintained by an commercial entity working 24/7 on it. Nearly all commercial AV Vendors offer Li

unstable to testing

2004-11-16 Thread Curtis Vaughan
I was just looking at the sources.list file on our Debian server and I realized we had unstable sources. I would guess that I used unstable in order to get Samba 3, which maybe wasn't available in testing at the time. But I don't know. Anyhow, I would rather be using testing. So, is it rather p

Re: Problem Installing Debian 3.0r1 on HP Visualize C3700 workstation

2004-11-16 Thread Jason Rennie
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 01:47:06PM -0500, Kaplan, Andrew H. wrote: > I am experimenting with Debian 3.0r1 and have a Visualize C3700 workstation. You might have better luck trying to install Sarge (testing): http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ Use the "netinst CD image, with Debian b

Off-Topic; was, Will debian Grow....

2004-11-16 Thread Michael Z Daryabeygi
the point you are missing will is that OT is not such an anathema to everyone as it is to you. The only thing that gets my goat on lists is when people complain about OT or ask people to take things off list. lists are first about community. The value of spontaneous community fosters the value

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread John Hasler
richard writes: > Funny how few complained... Many of us just killfile anyone who posts about politics. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Antivirus/Antispyware/Antiadware for linux?

2004-11-16 Thread Juha Siltala
On 2004-11-16, Sven Hoexter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 01:21:30PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> But F-Prot sucks by default because it is nonfree. Check out clamav >> instead. http://www.clamav.net/ > Well and to close the circle clamav sucks by default cause the virus

Re: binding 2 or more IP addresses to one interface?

2004-11-16 Thread Ivan Wills
Ivan Wills wrote: Hi I want to set up apache with some virtual hosts with different IP addresses and only have one NIC in the machine. Does any know how to bind more than one IP address to a NIC? Thanks Ivan Thanks all for the help it works a treat Ivan -- ,###' *##/ Ivan Wills

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 11:46:58PM +, Richard Lyons wrote: > Yes, OT is interesting, OT is fun. "All work and no play makes Jack a > dull boy," they used to say. That was before SATs and all that. But > now I am OOT. Or EMOT. OT isn't fun when it's controversial and about politics. OT is

Re: Antivirus/Antispyware/Antiadware for linux?

2004-11-16 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 04:41:10PM -0500, Rick Friedman wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >Will Ness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >>F-Prot is a good linux anti-virus for linux. Spyware, you got me, but > >>as earlier posters said, be sma

Re: linux source vs kernel-source

2004-11-16 Thread Jeremy Turner
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 03:59:11PM -0600, Russ Cook wrote: > Will the linux-* source files compile and build properly using > the kernel-package tools? Yes, they do. I use them on my own machines. I usually download the bz2 kernel and compile from there. I'm not sure what the debian patches to

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread Jacob S
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:10:51 + Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 16 November 2004 20:24, William Ballard wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 02:12:56PM -0600, Rich Wellner wrote: > > > Just as you did? ;-) > > > > Yes, just as I did. By the way, to swing this back on topic

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday 16 November 2004 22:38, William Ballard wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 11:10:51PM +, Richard Lyons wrote: > > > Nobody wants to hear your opinion about George Bush in the context of > > > Free Software. > > > > I do. > > > > Funny how few complained... > > America and Iraq and

sound driver

2004-11-16 Thread Jason Rennie
In short: I can't play ogg files on my Debian Sarge (2.4.27) machine, but I can if I boot off a Knoppix live CD (v3.6, kernel 2.4.27). i.e. the drivers I have installed on my Debian Sarge machine aren't working. I'd like to set things up to use the sound drivers that Knoppix uses, but I don't know

Re: NFS permissions question

2004-11-16 Thread Shaul Karl
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 02:01:02PM -0500, Christian Convey wrote: > My understanding of NFS permissions is that for any file appearing on > an NFS share, the username/uid and groupname/gid mappings should > (ideally) be identical on both the NFS client and the NFS server. > > So consider my home

shutdown won't shutdown

2004-11-16 Thread Paul Dufresne
I'm using grub instead of lilo. Do I append="apc=on" in the menu.lst file? And where specifically in the file do i add this? Wow, a question on this list that I know the answer. Guess I should answer fast before somenone else do. :-) Here is a part of my /boot/grub/menu.lst file: title

Rythmnbox (was ssh GUI)

2004-11-16 Thread Jeremy Turner
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 05:23:11PM -0500, Keith O'Brien wrote: > Didn't know about fish I'll have to check it out. I use shfs to mount > via ssh/scp. Only problem I have had is with large file listings (such > as mp3 collections). Juk and rythmbox both seemed to crash when using an > shfsmounted fi

Re: lilo and mbr

2004-11-16 Thread Shaul Karl
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 11:34:14AM -0800, Punit Ahluwalia wrote: > I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.7, and successfully booted with the new > kernel once. > However, I had to compile the kernel again, to include some additional > support. I cannot > boot after compiling and installing the kernel the s

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 11:10:51PM +, Richard Lyons wrote: > > Nobody wants to hear your opinion about George Bush in the context of > > Free Software. > > I do. > > Funny how few complained... America and Iraq and the whole lot of it doesn't have a single thing to do with Debian. The ori

Re: AMD 64 build absolutely necessary for install on Athlon 64?

2004-11-16 Thread Jacob S
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:47:14 +0100 Alexandru Cabuz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am trying for a few days here to boot my brand new Athlon 64 box on > a Sarge Installation CD. But since sarge is not yet ported to AMD 64 > (http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status) > I tried IA 64

Re: BIG filesystems, Big Files, Transparent Compression?

2004-11-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 15:21 -0500, Ben Russo wrote: > (see below for long story background ) > > The last time I created a large HW RAID5 volume (1.6 TB) the kernel was > unable to see all of it... If I create several smaller block devices > (like 400GB each) can LVM bind them together into a la

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread Jozsef Mak
From: Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Will Debian grow and stay? Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:10:51 + On Tuesday 16 November 2004 20:24, William Ballard wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 02:12:56PM -0600, Rich Wellner wrote: > > Just as you did? ;-) > > Yes, ju

Re: BIG filesystems, Big Files, Transparent Compression?

2004-11-16 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 16:00 -0500, William Ballard wrote: --snip-- > Just gzip each file down to < 1GB. Buy a couple 200GB hard drives and put > them in an ordinary computer. Keep a years worth of data online. --snip-- On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 03:21:26PM -0500, Ben Russo wrote: --snip-- > Please

Re: SCP GUI

2004-11-16 Thread Keith O'Brien
Didn't know about fish I'll have to check it out. I use shfs to mount via ssh/scp. Only problem I have had is with large file listings (such as mp3 collections). Juk and rythmbox both seemed to crash when using an shfsmounted file system. http://shfs.sourceforge.net/index.html Keith. On Tue, 2

Re: linux source vs kernel-source

2004-11-16 Thread Joerg Johannes
Am Dienstag, den 16.11.2004, 15:59 -0600 schrieb Russ Cook: > I generally compile my own kernel using kernel-package and the > kernel-source packages from the debian sites. But, at ftp.kernel.org > are source files that are 2.6.9 vs 2.6.8. > These files are labeled linux-2.6.9 vs kernel-source-2

Re: Will Debian grow and stay?

2004-11-16 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday 16 November 2004 20:24, William Ballard wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 02:12:56PM -0600, Rich Wellner wrote: > > Just as you did? ;-) > > Yes, just as I did. By the way, to swing this back on topic, inability > to focus on software and getting distracted with too many unrelated >

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