Re: RAID question

2003-12-07 Thread Arne Goetje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 06 December 2003 07:38, Alvin Oga wrote: > none of the "onboard raid" stuff worked in the past ... as far as i'm > concerned > > if you use hw raid, you're stuck with the sw they give you to > maintain/watch yoru raid system ... > > if you

Re: apt-file error

2003-12-07 Thread Arash Bijanzadeh
On Sunday 07 December 2003 10:57, Arash Bijanzadeh wrote: > tryingto search with apt-file gives me this error message: > Can't locate object method "host" via package "URI::_foreign" at /usr/bin/ > apt-file line 225 > > How can I solve it? > Somebody please help me, Packages.debian.org is still dow

unstable, galeon, and Yahoo authentication

2003-12-07 Thread Doug MacFarlane
Team: Last week, I upgraded a testing system to unstable. This weekend, I built a new system, starting with my woody cd and upgrading to unstable after the install. In both cases, Galeon can't authenticate to Yahoo mail any longer. It worked fine on the testing system, but neither unstable sys

Re: chaning root prompt PS1 question

2003-12-07 Thread Todd Pytel
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 00:57:25 -0500 "H. S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have tried to find on the web how to change my root prompt. I tried > setting the PS1 in /etc/profile but it seems that is not read when I > do "su -" to change to root. No, it is read: timaeus:~$ su timaeus:/home/tppyte

Re: [Xprint] Re: Xprint observations

2003-12-07 Thread Jungshik Shin
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Roland Mainz wrote: > "R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar" wrote: > [snip] > > > So there seems to be some incompatibility between AA display and > > > 'wysiwig' printing through xprint. This could be a fundamental > > > problem; if so, it would seriously limit the usefulness of xprint.

chaning root prompt PS1 question

2003-12-07 Thread H. S.
Hi, I have tried to find on the web how to change my root prompt. I tried setting the PS1 in /etc/profile but it seems that is not read when I do "su -" to change to root. But if I do "source /etc/profile" as root, I get my changes prompt, but then I loose the root environment. (BTW, setting P

Re: debian rebooting randomly

2003-12-07 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 at 02:09 GMT, Ross Tsolakidis penned: > Yep, the machine is located at a datacentre, which has full UPS > protection. > Perhaps the custodian at the data center is unplugging the UPS to plug in a vacuum cleaner? -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: keep old files

2003-12-07 Thread joy12
- Original Message - From: Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, December 7, 2003 10:19 am Subject: Re: keep old files > Joydeep Bakshi wrote: > > >Hi list, > >I am a newbie debian user (switched from RH). > >I have faced a strange prob. in woody. whenever I modified any > file t

Re: [Xprint] Re: Xprint observations

2003-12-07 Thread Roland Mainz
"R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar" wrote: [snip] > > So there seems to be some incompatibility between AA display and > > 'wysiwig' printing through xprint. This could be a fundamental > > problem; if so, it would seriously limit the usefulness of xprint. > > But I wonder if anyone has been able to set it

Re: Moving programs into KDE menu

2003-12-07 Thread Terry Hancock
On Sunday 07 December 2003 08:20 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > Can someone advise me on how to move a working program into the KDE menu. I > have gimp installed, configured and working but cant figure out how to put > it into the menu system. If you mean the system-wide way to do it, I don't know. Bu

Re: Mutt, stop CC-ing the list

2003-12-07 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 10:22:01PM -0500, Johann Koenig wrote: > On Sunday December 7 at 04:35pm > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 03:54:44AM -0800, Tom wrote: > > > What can I do to mutt to make it stop CC-ing t

Re: kdebase in testing broken depencies?

2003-12-07 Thread H. S.
Alexander Fitterling wrote: Hello. I wonder if anyone could tell how one could get package kdebase from testing release installed. if I attempt I get following error: The following packages have unmet dependencies: kdebase: Depends: ksysguard (>= 4:3.1.3-1) but it is not going to be installed

Re: Mutt, stop CC-ing the list

2003-12-07 Thread Johann Koenig
On Sunday December 7 at 04:35pm Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 03:54:44AM -0800, Tom wrote: > > What can I do to mutt to make it stop CC-ing the list when I hit "g" > > and only want to reply to the sender? I always forget to check the > > CCs before I hit Y. >

kdebase in testing broken depencies?

2003-12-07 Thread Alexander Fitterling
Hello. I wonder if anyone could tell how one could get package kdebase from testing release installed. if I attempt I get following error: The following packages have unmet dependencies: kdebase: Depends: ksysguard (>= 4:3.1.3-1) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages The err

gimp hangs on some fonts

2003-12-07 Thread H. S.
Hi, I am experimenting with gimp(ver 1.2.3) in my Debian system running Sarge (kernel 2.4.22). I notice that when I select some of the fonts while in the Text tool, gimp hangs. On the command prompt, when I kill it, I get: 21:00:05{icons-art}> gimp& [4] 4044 21:00:07{icons-art}> fg <--

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-07 Thread ben_foley
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 11:23:31AM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 09:57:49AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > > > Anyway, I have definitely had dogs who had a sense of torture -- lock > > them outside for a few hours and they would whine, and whine, and whine > > about being tortur

Moving programs into KDE menu

2003-12-07 Thread Hoyt Bailey
Can someone advise me on how to move a working program into the KDE menu. I have gimp installed, configured and working but cant figure out how to put it into the menu system. Hoyt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: debian rebooting randomly

2003-12-07 Thread Ross Tsolakidis
Yep, the machine is located at a datacentre, which has full UPS protection. Regards, -- Ross. -Original Message- From: Carl Fink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 8 December 2003 12:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: debian rebooting randomly On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:

Install ALSA on new Unstable install for GNOME 2?

2003-12-07 Thread Doug MacFarlane
Team: I inherited a newish box with an Intel Desktop Board D845GLAD2 motherboard. I'm trying to figure out what to do about audio . . . In installed from my woody CD, let dselect get the basic system up to current woody, and then added lines for unstable to sources.list and changed my default-

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-07 Thread Tom
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 06:19:45PM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 05:31:12PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > > IIRC, it was a prior nonproductive thread with "Tom" which pointed out > > seeding and metrics as a way of estimating such bug counts. > > So how many are there? One th

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-07 Thread Tom
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 05:31:12PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > IIRC, it was a prior nonproductive thread with "Tom" which pointed out > seeding and metrics as a way of estimating such bug counts. So how many are there? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "uns

Re: Linux vs. SCO: 1-0

2003-12-07 Thread Tom
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 10:42:46PM -0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > Em Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:52:15 -0800, Tom escreveu: > > > I'm actively avoiding reading anything about it > > So why did you bother reading any message in this thread? Preview pane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: debian port for spamassassin ?

2003-12-07 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 11:02:42AM +1100, Ross Tsolakidis wrote: > Is there a better port for spamassassin because at the moment, stable > only has version 2.2 > Has anyone else made something later ? Have you checked http://www.apt-get.org/ - --

Re: Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 at 21:36 GMT, Paul Morgan penned: > On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 14:07:19 -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > >> On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 13:59, Oliver Elphick wrote: --snip-- >>> A user password could also be a protection against nosy >>> girlfriends... >> >> At least until she says "Why won

Re: email server setup

2003-12-07 Thread Edward Warzecha
 

Re: uhoh - bind on unstable (repost)

2003-12-07 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 at 12:53 GMT, John L. Fjellstad penned: > Monique Y. Herman wrote: > >> Running nslookup still seems to work using localhost as the server. >> >> Is this more a "warning" than an "error"? Should I be concerned? > > I think it's considered an error. I had some applications (q

Re: debian rebooting randomly

2003-12-07 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:45:18AM +1100, Ross Tsolakidis wrote: > A recently built box, running stable, all the latest security patches > aswell. > Almost on a daily basis, I find that it has rebooted, nothing in the > syslog. > Running kernel 2.4.18-686-smp I am *far* from an expert, but it imm

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:21:33PM +0100, Johannes Zarl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Content-Description: signed data > On Thursday 04 December 2003 17:43, Tom wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 10:15:12AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > > ... That's why the kernel > > > developers thought it was just

Re: Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 01:01:55PM -0800, Tom wrote: > But really, I'm not a dumb ass: I *never* got hacked at home. Of course not. I though I think the term you're looking for is "cracked." http://ursine.ca/jargon/html/C/crack.html - -- .''`.

Re: Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 02:07:19PM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > At least until she says "Why won't you tell me your password, don't you > trust me?" in which case it's about as easy to answer 'correctly' as > "Does this make me look fat?". :) I had

Re: Unable to start kde session on display :1

2003-12-07 Thread Kent West
Steinar Bang wrote: Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Rather than use xinit, you might find it easier to just edit /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers to start up the second kdm session. I've had two login sessions before (don't do it any more), and I believe this is how I did it, but I no longer

Re: debian port for spamassassin ?

2003-12-07 Thread Chris Everts
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 01:02, Ross Tsolakidis wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there a better port for spamassassin because at the moment, stable > only has version 2.2 > Has anyone else made something later ? I got Spamassassin 2.55 backport from: http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/woody/bunk-1.html b

Re: Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 11:28:41AM -0800, Tom wrote: > If I have a firewall, and I'm the only person who uses my computer, do I > really have to have a password on my non-root account? YES! Firewalls are not the end-all, be-all in security. Securit

Re: Linux vs. SCO: 1-0

2003-12-07 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
Em Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:52:15 -0800, Tom escreveu: > I'm actively avoiding reading anything about it So why did you bother reading any message in this thread? -- Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corsetti Dutra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Belo Horizonte, Londrina, SÃo Paulo +55 (11) 5686 9607

start program at login

2003-12-07 Thread John L. Fjellstad
I have a program I want to start when I login in X. I know KDE has something that starts programs at login, but I was looking for something windowmanager agnostic. Are there any way? (Right know I have it in bashrc, but then I have to start a terminal each time after login) -- John L. Fjellsta

Re: sudo su gives root without prompting for a password

2003-12-07 Thread Björn Lindström
"Benedict Verheyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The entries with NOPASSWD are because of a backup script. So why > don't i need to type a password for running "sudo su". It just > doesn't feel right the way it's now. I don't really know, but why not simplify your sudoers and just run your bac

Re: ye olde upgrade vs. dist-upgrade

2003-12-07 Thread John L. Fjellstad
Marc Wilson wrote: > I don't know... why do you bother to subscribe to a mailing list, when you > can't be bothered to *read* it before whining about someone else's > posting? > > Or did you not notice that I *did* define the terms? I noticed, and I also noticed the tone you used. I just don't

Re: uhoh - bind on unstable (repost)

2003-12-07 Thread John L. Fjellstad
Monique Y. Herman wrote: > Running nslookup still seems to work using localhost as the server. > > Is this more a "warning" than an "error"? Should I be concerned? I think it's considered an error. I had some applications (qmail), which wouldn't start up because of this error. I really not sur

Re: compiling kernel for another system

2003-12-07 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Monday 08 December 2003 00:59, Bill Goudie wrote: > The unresolved symbols still exist -- depmod is run with "-q" > from /etc/init.d/modutils.  This suppresses the error warnings. Well, what I did was run this from the command line: # depmod -a Even this: # depmod -a -e And it doesn't complai

Re: Q:No modconf in 2.6?

2003-12-07 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 07:53:36PM +0100, Mariano Kamp wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed 2.6 and to my surprise it came up nicely on first try. When > trying to install modules though, modconf didn't show any? Is there another > tool to be used. > I don't know about the specific tools. Ho

Re: Mutt, stop CC-ing the list

2003-12-07 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 03:54:44AM -0800, Tom wrote: > What can I do to mutt to make it stop CC-ing the list when I hit "g" and > only want to reply to the sender? I always forget to check the CCs > before I hit Y. No. Mutt is doing the right thin

sudo su gives root without prompting for a password

2003-12-07 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Hi, i recently removed the SUID bit from /bin/su. The permissions now look like this: -rwxr-x--- Now i can just type "sudo su" to become root and no password is asked. Previously i needed to type the root password when using su. As a normal user, i now cannot run su anymore which is ok for me. The

debian port for spamassassin ?

2003-12-07 Thread Ross Tsolakidis
Hi all, Is there a better port for spamassassin because at the moment, stable only has version 2.2 Has anyone else made something later ? -- Ross. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be privileged and confidential, and are intended only for the use of the intended re

Re: mc compilation

2003-12-07 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Florentin Ionescu wrote: I am trying to compile mc with ext2undel - apparently default configuration does not include ext2 undelete feature. Now, file "/usr/include/linux/ext2_fs.h" does exist, and I also installed e2fslibs, e2fslibs-dev in order to use option "--with-ext2undel=/usr/lib/libext2fs.

Re: SOLVED - KDE3.1 in sid and woody

2003-12-07 Thread Clive Menzies
On (06/12/03 00:27), Ross Boylan wrote: > Check http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianKDE > sid needs some help to install > On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:52:22PM +, Clive Menzies wrote: > > Hi > > > > I am just rebuilding Debian on my Powermac G4 having repartioned to > > install sid as the mai

debian rebooting randomly

2003-12-07 Thread Ross Tsolakidis
Hi all, A recently built box, running stable, all the latest security patches aswell. Almost on a daily basis, I find that it has rebooted, nothing in the syslog. Running kernel 2.4.18-686-smp I'm pretty sure that there is a powersaving feature in the BIOS, unfortunately the box is located at a r

Re: compiling kernel for another system

2003-12-07 Thread Bill Goudie
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 05:37:16PM -0600, Bill Goudie wrote: > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 11:28:41PM +0100, Magnus von Koeller wrote: > > On Sunday 07 December 2003 23:11, Bill Goudie wrote: > > > The upshot of all this is that modules with unresolved symbols > > > require functions which were exclude

Re: compiling kernel for another system

2003-12-07 Thread Bill Goudie
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 11:28:41PM +0100, Magnus von Koeller wrote: > On Sunday 07 December 2003 23:11, Bill Goudie wrote: > > The upshot of all this is that modules with unresolved symbols > > require functions which were excluded from both the kernel and any > > other installed modules for that k

woody cd's 6+7

2003-12-07 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi List! I found descriptions of Woody CD's 1-5 in the acompanying docs. But not what is in 6+7. (No doubt not looking right ;-) ) What is in them? Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: I want spam!

2003-12-07 Thread Bengt Thure'e
Jimmy Jones wrote: Please send me lots and lots of spam, viruses, hoaxes, etc! I'm testing filters and want real-world spam to hit me. Send it all here! thanks, [EMAIL PROTECTED] N? [EMAIL PROTECTED] é[hu??j{?z?ÞçX???^n&???0??Z???y?h~?ì?&?N?.nW??{Zr?b?Ù?×?+-?×???rg== Why not go to www

mc compilation

2003-12-07 Thread Florentin Ionescu
I am trying to compile mc with ext2undel - apparently default configuration does not include ext2 undelete feature. Now, file "/usr/include/linux/ext2_fs.h" does exist, and I also installed e2fslibs, e2fslibs-dev in order to use option "--with-ext2undel=/usr/lib/libext2fs.a" for mc compilation bu

Re: problems installing java

2003-12-07 Thread Wayne Topa
tripolar([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > well back in town and trying to install java on mothers pc so she can > goto websites with java. > I first upgraded her system to sid ( because that is what mine is) > then added a site from apt-get.org for j2re1.4 > did apt-get install j2re1.

Re: to let the "shutdown -h now" make the power really go off

2003-12-07 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 09:21:19PM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > micro-people <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >mmm > >my Debian 3.0 says that it cannot locate it > >maybe the base(used 20 FDs to install) only system > >still doesn't have that module installe

Re: [SOLVED] Re: compiled new kernel 2.4.22, but computer does not power off fully

2003-12-07 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
H. S. wrote: H. S. wrote: Hi, I compiled a new kernel (2.4.22) but upon shutdown my computer does not power off completely. It goes through all the shutting down routine, even shuts down hard disks and then the last message displayed is "Power Off", but the actual power does not go off. In my

Re: compiling kernel for another system

2003-12-07 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Sunday 07 December 2003 23:11, Bill Goudie wrote: > The upshot of all this is that modules with unresolved symbols > require functions which were excluded from both the kernel and any > other installed modules for that kernel version.  If for some > reason you built this module but don't need it

Re: Unable to start kde session on display :1

2003-12-07 Thread Steinar Bang
> Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Rather than use xinit, you might find it easier to just edit > /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers to start up the second kdm session. I've had > two login sessions before (don't do it any more), and I believe this > is how I did it, but I no longer remember for sure. My

Re: Unable to start kde session on display :1

2003-12-07 Thread Steinar Bang
> Steinar Bang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Platform: Intel PII 233 [snip!] > kdm 3.1.3-1 [snip!] > As far as I can tell from the /etc/kde2/kdm/kdmrc, the > /etc/kde2/kdm/kdm-config, the /etc/kde2/kdm/Xaccess, and the > /etc/X11/fs/config files, kdm should be listening to > XDMCP requests.

Re: Wvdial and mysterious /dev/ttyS0 permission change

2003-12-07 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello csj (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > On 7. December 2003 at 1:32PM -0500, > Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > [...] > >>> I hardly think it necessary to install the Mega-size KDE libs >>> to use kppp, but what is the reason pon/poff won't do? >>> Al

Re: compiling kernel for another system

2003-12-07 Thread Bill Goudie
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 01:46:09AM +0100, John L. Fjellstad wrote: > Magnus von Koeller wrote: > > I mean, after all, you can still boot to the old kernel with LinuxOLD, > > can't you? Or is your machine that uptime-critical? > > No, I'm just worried because I have unplugged everything on it (moni

Re: Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 14:07:19 -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 13:59, Oliver Elphick wrote: > --snip-- >> A user password could also be a protection against nosy girlfriends... > > At least until she says "Why won't you tell me your password, don't you > trust me?" in which ca

[SOLVED] Re: compiled new kernel 2.4.22, but computer does not power off fully

2003-12-07 Thread H. S.
H. S. wrote: Hi, I compiled a new kernel (2.4.22) but upon shutdown my computer does not power off completely. It goes through all the shutting down routine, even shuts down hard disks and then the last message displayed is "Power Off", but the actual power does not go off. In my earlier kernel

(no subject)

2003-12-07 Thread Loricork
I have lost my printer icon. My printer is a hpdeckjet 940c can you help me?

Re: Wvdial and mysterious /dev/ttyS0 permission change

2003-12-07 Thread csj
On 7. December 2003 at 1:32PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: [...] > > I hardly think it necessary to install the Mega-size KDE libs > > to use kppp, but what is the reason pon/poff won't do? > > Although admittedly that is no solution to your problem

Re: When will the new XFree make it into Debian?

2003-12-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Tom Allison wrote: Roberto Sanchez wrote: I know this has been discussed to death already. But what is holding up XFree86 4.3 from making it into unstable? I have been using 4.3 from experimental for a few months, but 4.3 was released almost a year ago and 4.4 will probably be out soon. Just wo

Re: Installing Printer - CUPS

2003-12-07 Thread Dr.-Ing. C. Hurschler
Thanks, I'll do when I have the time. I'm too busy with work to deal with it now. Chris On Sunday 07 December 2003 00:13, Paul wrote: > * Dr.-Ing. C. Hurschler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-12-06 14:23]: > > Hi, > > > > I'm having trouble getting my local printer working (HP Deskjet 710C) . > > I'

Re: Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 11:28:41AM -0800, Tom wrote: > If I have a firewall, and I'm the only person who uses my computer, do I > really have to have a password on my non-root account? > > I know the answer is "yes" but -- why? They can't do anything to my > machine anyway, except use it. And

Re: When will the new XFree make it into Debian?

2003-12-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Mariano Kamp wrote: Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: __ I know this has been discussed to death already. But what is holding up XFree86 4.3 from making it into unstable? I have been using 4.3 from experimental for a few months, but 4.3 was released almost a year ago and 4.4 will

Re: When will the new XFree make it into Debian?

2003-12-07 Thread Tom Allison
Roberto Sanchez wrote: I know this has been discussed to death already. But what is holding up XFree86 4.3 from making it into unstable? I have been using 4.3 from experimental for a few months, but 4.3 was released almost a year ago and 4.4 will probably be out soon. Just wondering. -Roberto Wh

Re: ATI Radeon 9800 XL / XFree 4.3?

2003-12-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Mariano Kamp wrote: On Sunday 07 December 2003 21:11, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Mariano Kamp wrote: Hi, I have an ATI Radeon 9800 XL card and want to use it with debian/unstable Kernel 2.6. From what my googling turned up so far I would need XFree 4.3? In unstable I "only" found XFree 4.1. On

Re: Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread Tom
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 09:48:00PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..be paranoid _enough_. Yeah, thanks everybody. Every once I in a while I let the fact that I never seem to get hacked confuse me... I never ran Virus software on my Home PC and I never got infected, except once: working at Mic

Re: ATI Radeon 9800 XL / XFree 4.3?

2003-12-07 Thread Mariano Kamp
On Sunday 07 December 2003 21:11, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Mariano Kamp wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have an ATI Radeon 9800 XL card and want to use it with > > debian/unstable Kernel 2.6. > > > > From what my googling turned up so far I would need XFree 4.3? > > > > In unstable I "only" found XF

Re: SOLVED. Re: HELP ... Compiling kernel fails with "cannot stat 'conf.vars'". Was: Re: Compiling 2.6: Cannot stat "conf.vars"

2003-12-07 Thread Markku Kellberg
sön 2003-12-07 klockan 19.43 skrev Mariano Kamp: > On Sunday 07 December 2003 16:28, Mariano Kamp wrote: > > On Sunday 07 December 2003 12:07, Mariano Kamp wrote: > > > On Sunday 07 December 2003 08:35, Markku Kellberg wrote: > > > > lör 2003-12-06 klockan 23.47 skrev Mariano Kamp: > > > > > On Sat

Re: Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:28:41 -0800, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > If I have a firewall, and I'm the only person who uses my computer, do > I really have to have a password on my non-root account? > > I know the answer is "yes" but -- why? They can't do anything

re: When will the new XFree make it into Debian?

2003-12-07 Thread Mariano Kamp
Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: __ >I know this has been discussed to death already. But what is holding up >XFree86 4.3 from making it into unstable? I have been using 4.3 from >experimental for a few months, but 4.3 was released almost a year ago >and 4.4 will probably be ou

Re: When will the new XFree make it into Debian?

2003-12-07 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 15:19:24 -0500 Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know this has been discussed to death already. But what is holding > up XFree86 4.3 from making it into unstable? I have been using 4.3 > from experimental for a few months, but 4.3 was released almost a year > ago

When will the new XFree make it into Debian?

2003-12-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
I know this has been discussed to death already. But what is holding up XFree86 4.3 from making it into unstable? I have been using 4.3 from experimental for a few months, but 4.3 was released almost a year ago and 4.4 will probably be out soon. Just wondering. -Roberto pgp0.pgp Descriptio

Yamaha YMF-724F sound chip and midi

2003-12-07 Thread Walter Dnes
I have a sound chip, which shows up like so in /proc/pci Bus 0, device 12, function 0: Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio Controller] (rev 3). IRQ 9. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=25. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf4

Re: Linux vs. SCO: 1-0

2003-12-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:52:15 -0800, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 10:04:29AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > > Still my bad. > > > > I'm just not sure to what extent I want to view this as linux vs. > > sco, or the gpl vs. sco, etc.

Re: Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread Terry Hancock
On Sunday 07 December 2003 01:28 pm, Tom wrote: > If I have a firewall, and I'm the only person who uses my computer, do I > really have to have a password on my non-root account? > > I know the answer is "yes" but -- why? They can't do anything to my > machine anyway, except use it. And due t

Re: Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread Bijan Soleymani
Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If I have a firewall, and I'm the only person who uses my computer, do I > really have to have a password on my non-root account? > > I know the answer is "yes" but -- why? They can't do anything to my > machine anyway, except use it. And due to the firewall t

Re: ATI Radeon 9800 XL / XFree 4.3?

2003-12-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Mariano Kamp wrote: Hi, I have an ATI Radeon 9800 XL card and want to use it with debian/unstable Kernel 2.6. From what my googling turned up so far I would need XFree 4.3? In unstable I "only" found XFree 4.1. On apt-get.org I found XFree 4.3 for woody. Would I be able to use it? Any

compiled new kernel 2.4.22, but computer does not power off fully

2003-12-07 Thread H. S.
Hi, I compiled a new kernel (2.4.22) but upon shutdown my computer does not power off completely. It goes through all the shutting down routine, even shuts down hard disks and then the last message displayed is "Power Off", but the actual power does not go off. In my earlier kernel (2.4.18-bf2

Re: Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 13:59, Oliver Elphick wrote: --snip-- > A user password could also be a protection against nosy girlfriends... At least until she says "Why won't you tell me your password, don't you trust me?" in which case it's about as easy to answer 'correctly' as "Does this make me look

Re: No need for 2.4.23 - How to do it?

2003-12-07 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 16:12, Thomas H. George wrote: > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 12:35:06AM +0100, Andreas Goesele wrote: > > Mark C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > same here from the debian sources, but with a few added patches, > > > there is no need to download a new kernel, just get the s

Re: Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread H. S.
Tom wrote: If I have a firewall, and I'm the only person who uses my computer, do I really have to have a password on my non-root account? I know the answer is "yes" but -- why? They can't do anything to my machine anyway, except use it. And due to the firewall that never happens anyway. What

Re: App for making invitation cards

2003-12-07 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
Em Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:27:05 -0500, Andy Firman escreveu: > I just discoverd Scribus. Desktop publishing for Linux. It is a great > program. Similar to MS Publisher. There is also Passepartout in the Gnome world, but it is not yet packaged for Debian. In a simpler note, you can create

Re: Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread Andrew Pritchard
> If I have a firewall, and I'm the only person who uses my computer, do I > really have to have a password on my non-root account? > > I know the answer is "yes" but -- why? They can't do anything to my > machine anyway, except use it. And due to the firewall that never > happens anyway. There

Re: Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 19:28, Tom wrote: > If I have a firewall, and I'm the only person who uses my computer, do I > really have to have a password on my non-root account? > > I know the answer is "yes" but -- why? They can't do anything to my > machine anyway, except use it. And due to the fi

Why should non-root users have a password?

2003-12-07 Thread Tom
If I have a firewall, and I'm the only person who uses my computer, do I really have to have a password on my non-root account? I know the answer is "yes" but -- why? They can't do anything to my machine anyway, except use it. And due to the firewall that never happens anyway. -- To UNSUBS

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-07 Thread Tom
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 09:57:49AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > Anyway, I have definitely had dogs who had a sense of torture -- lock > them outside for a few hours and they would whine, and whine, and whine > about being tortured by not being allowed inside I saw my dog get embaressed onc

ATI Radeon 9800 XL / XFree 4.3?

2003-12-07 Thread Mariano Kamp
Hi, I have an ATI Radeon 9800 XL card and want to use it with debian/unstable Kernel 2.6. From what my googling turned up so far I would need XFree 4.3? In unstable I "only" found XFree 4.1. On apt-get.org I found XFree 4.3 for woody. Would I be able to use it? Any other place I can go

Re: compiling kernel for another system

2003-12-07 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Sunday 07 December 2003 19:28, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Do you mean to install the kernel and ignore the unresolved symbol > errors?  Then try booting the new kernel to see if it actually > works? That's what I did in your exact situation and it worked out just fine. I'm not getting any errors

Re: Playing "RealOne" clips

2003-12-07 Thread Todd Pytel
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:41:30 -0800 Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > http://www.prairiehome.org/performances/20031129/ > > Ok, I've installed mozilla-firebird and gxine from Sid and they play. > Yet all the links play the same stream. I'm not sure if that's a > problem on my end

Re: Playing "RealOne" clips

2003-12-07 Thread Todd Pytel
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:38:23 -0800 Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not sure exactly what you mean by a "front end." Both of those > > can be selected as "helper-applications" in Mozilla when the dialog > > pops up. > > Oh, no I meant from these: > > http://xinehq.de/index.php/re

Q:No modconf in 2.6?

2003-12-07 Thread Mariano Kamp
Hi, I just installed 2.6 and to my surprise it came up nicely on first try. When trying to install modules though, modconf didn't show any? Is there another tool to be used. I've also seen this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=192232 Would that mean that there is no

SOLVED. Re: HELP ... Compiling kernel fails with "cannot stat 'conf.vars'". Was: Re: Compiling 2.6: Cannot stat "conf.vars"

2003-12-07 Thread Mariano Kamp
On Sunday 07 December 2003 16:28, Mariano Kamp wrote: > On Sunday 07 December 2003 12:07, Mariano Kamp wrote: > > On Sunday 07 December 2003 08:35, Markku Kellberg wrote: > > > lör 2003-12-06 klockan 23.47 skrev Mariano Kamp: > > > > On Saturday 06 December 2003 23:10, Markku Kellberg wrote: > > >

Re: Wvdial and mysterious /dev/ttyS0 permission change

2003-12-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Alexander Fitterling wrote: Everyone. Debian has some setting like this for my modem device crw-rw1 root dialout4, 64 7. Jan 2002 /dev/ttyS0 I added all necessary users to group "dialout" at least to have them access our modem. But when some users sta

Re: compiling kernel for another system

2003-12-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Magnus von Koeller wrote: On Sunday 07 December 2003 18:06, Roberto Sanchez wrote: I'm a little late in the thread, but I think I am having the same problem. Last night I compiled a vanilla 2.4.23 kernel on my Sid workstation to then install it on my Woody server. Before doing the compile, I mov

Re: Buggy Kernel How-To?

2003-12-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Hi all, Either the Kernel How-To, as it is available from is completely outdated, maybe even dangerously wrong, or ideas I found in postings from

Kernel 2.6.0-testX show stoppers

2003-12-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
I am having some problems getting 2.6.0-test11 working on my 2 Sid boxes. I know these questions are probably more appropriate for LKML, but I am hoping that somone here can provide me some insight so that I can go to the kernel people with some useful info, rather than a "help me" request. Any he

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