Re: gnome 2.4 and sawfish weirdness

2003-10-19 Thread Simon Green
Me too. I usually use Meta-Left and Meta-Right to shift workspaces, so it's not to much of a problem. I noticed that if I click at the very top left of the left workspace the windows go back to normal. It's a bit annoying though. -- simon On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 09:07, Ryan Nowakowski wrote: > I'

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:29:33 -0700, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 05:01:07AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:08:33 -0700, > > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > On Sun, Oct

gnome-terminal starts, closes immediatly

2003-10-19 Thread Matt McMinn
I installed gnome2.2 today, after having used kde3 for the last few months. Everything eas working fine until I rebooted to get sound compiled in to my kernel. Now, gnome-terminal will start up, and immediatly close down again. You can see a black background in window before it closes, so I don'

Re: Re: X trouble!

2003-10-19 Thread david
Actually, thanks to people on IRC, I fixed the problem. It was because of fontconfig bug 216605. The solution was to uninstall gsfonts-other, and rebuild the font cache (I used dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig). (And sorry about the long lines -- I was using w3m to send that.) david -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread Tom
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 05:01:07AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:08:33 -0700, > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 04:59:08PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > [snip] > > > > I was aware of all your facts and reaso

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread Kent West
Pigeon wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 01:07:12AM -0700, Tom wrote: Maybe in 50 years the Muslims will be turning out killer cars like Germany or killer stereos like Japan. ...the killer cars aren't too bad, it's the killer cats... I remember back in 1978 there was an "Attack of the Ki

Re: Knoppix-like install of Debian?

2003-10-19 Thread Kent West
Kenneth Dombrowski wrote: On 03-10-19 16:14 -0500, Kent West wrote: (You're leaving the stable lines in so you can get packages that haven't seen any development since stable and therefore aren't in the unstable branch, and you're leaving in the security line to get security patches, which a

Re: More on spam

2003-10-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Sorry Jeff, ..I hit the wrong triggah. ;-) On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:47:57 -0400, Jeff Elkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Swen is only the beginning. However, it's the harbinger of things to > come that will destroy the utility of public listservs unless policies

Re: X trouble!

2003-10-19 Thread david
I have the same problem, most likely. At first, it seemed like it was only gtk2/gnome2 apps that didn't work, as I could start xinit manually and run kdesktop, kwin, etc from there. KDM did not work, however. When executing a gnome2 program from the command line, the program would exit without a

Re: apt-get install pkg and remove pkg on the same line?!

2003-10-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:59:59AM +0200, smurfd said > Hey there Debian-user list, ive been thinking, (not well enough, as it > seems). > > How does dselect do, when you select/deselect packages to be > added/removed ? i mean, can you type yourself, like on one line.. > > apt-get install p

Re: Installing my own Apache?

2003-10-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 09:54:00PM -0400, Joel Konkle-Parker said > Perhaps I should make this a more general question. > > My underlying question involves adding and upgrading new software not > available in the official distribution. Let's say I want to put the new > version of an IM client on

Re: software download

2003-10-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:01:04AM +0200, SpawnPPC said > Hi all, > > I'm Emanuele, from Italy. > > Where I can found and download with apt-get this software for DebianPPC > unstable distribution? > > - Wine This is in Debian, but will not do anything useful on PPC. Wine Is Not an Emulator, i

Light on CD burner lit without disk.

2003-10-19 Thread Dan Hunt
Tonight, I am confused. Debian Unstable. The light on my c.d. burner is on, however no disks are in either one of the cd drives. If you have an idea why, would you please enlighten me? Bad pun, real question. Dan Hunt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 01:07:12AM -0700, Tom wrote: > Maybe in 50 years the Muslims will be turning out killer cars like > Germany or killer stereos like Japan. ...the killer cars aren't too bad, it's the killer cats... -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:1137

X trouble!

2003-10-19 Thread Kevin C. Smith
I just upgraded by Sid box and now 99% of my X apps no longer work. Such as: KDM fails to start. I can start fluxbox but the majority of the X appls fail. I have not seen any errors in the logs or from the output of various applications. Anyone else experience this, or is it just me? Kevin --

Re: apt-get install pkg and remove pkg on the same line?!

2003-10-19 Thread Travis Crump
smurfd wrote: Hey there Debian-user list, ive been thinking, (not well enough, as it seems). How does dselect do, when you select/deselect packages to be added/removed ? i mean, can you type yourself, like on one line.. apt-get install packages remove packages? Im not meaning apt-get inst

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-19 Thread John Hasler
Daniel writes: > So? Nothing in my message attributed anything to you. (Check the > indentation level.) Complex indentations are confusing. People assume, not unreasonably, that the presence of someone's name implies the presence of something that person wrote. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:27:57 -0500, Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Scott C. Linnenbringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'd say the emacs guys have run out of things to implement. > > Not really. There are a few branches working on longer-term things > already. Also, there are

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-19 Thread Daniel B.
John, John Hasler wrote: > > Daniel B quotes: > > > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 05:51:16 -0500, > > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 00:03, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 1

Re: Trouble with Lilo, Grub, Redhat, and Debian

2003-10-19 Thread John Schofield
You got me close; RedHat docs got me the rest of the way. I'm dual-booting to Debian and RedHat using Grub. The key turned out to be a statement at the end of the Kernel statement in the grub.conf file. From the RedHat Docs: kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 Once I added the root statement to t

Re: "spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7."

2003-10-19 Thread Daniel B.
Bob Proulx wrote: > > Daniel B. wrote: > > Is this something I need to do something about: > > Oct 18 20:29:30 dsb kernel: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7. > > Just ignore it. It basically means that you do not have anything > connected to the parallel port. That obviously can't be right--I ha

Re: nvidia drivers & kernel headers

2003-10-19 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:50:17 -0700 (PDT), John Yurcik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought of this after I sent this out, but would > upgrading to testing resolve this problem? Knoppix 3.3 > will "see" the video card I'm trying to install, and > Debian stable doesn't. In this case, not at all.

Re: nvidia drivers & kernel headers

2003-10-19 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:22:21 -0700 (PDT), John Yurcik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <... gcc stuff> > Thanks, after creating the symbolic link the nvidia > shell script build the kernel interface but then > stopped with the following response: (and also I > believe that the headers are the correct

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-19 Thread csj
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: [...] >think about it: when learning english the only challenge is > to learn how to pronounce words (and learn irregular > verbs). you built vocabulary by learning words, where you > pretty much only need to remember the word itself (in

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread csj
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:42:06 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:58:32 -0700, > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > ..for samples, google "SCO Linux". SCO claims they have > > > 350 and Microsoft 25 000 "coders", and they are up against > >

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread csj
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:07:12 -0700, Tom wrote: > > [...] > Maybe in 50 years the Muslims will be turning out killer cars > like Germany or killer stereos like Japan. Well, Muslims are turning out cars, and not just the killer cars some rogue religious fundamentalists use to make their point. You

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread csj
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:38:52 +0100, Clive Menzies wrote: [...] > > Maybe in 50 years the Muslims will be turning out killer cars > > like Germany or killer stereos like Japan. > > Does it ever occur to you that their idea of progress is not to > emulate Germany, Japan or even America. The Iraqis

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread csj
At Sun, 19 Oct 2003 14:24:37 -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > I understand the point about Emacs being as "graphical" as > > anything else in a certain way, but I can't believe *you* > > don't understand what I meant with "graphical". :-) > > I guess

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:08:33 -0700, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 04:59:08PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > [snip] > > I was aware of all your facts and reasonings before you spoke. > We just part ways on our interpretation of the facts

Re: Apache config issue - 403 from Alias

2003-10-19 Thread Kenneth Dombrowski
On 03-10-19 19:32 -0500, Ian Melnick wrote: > Anyone have an idea on why this isn't working? I copied the icon > example, and the permissions are 755 throughout (and icons work), so why > won't this? > > Alias /doc/ /usr/share/doc/ > > Options Indexes MultiViews > AllowOverride None > Order

Re: diffs between kernel-source-2.4.22 and source of kernel-image-2.4.22?

2003-10-19 Thread Herbert Xu
David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, well, `even with the same config', meaning that I used the config > from kernel-image-2.4.22. That should work, shouldn't it? No it's not. The precompiled images put vesafb in /lib/modules/*/initrd which means that it is loaded automatically by

Re: More on spam

2003-10-19 Thread Jeff Elkins
This discussion has been enlightening and many of the posters have raised excellent points. However, I'm still confused on what seems to me to a basic issue: Why does debian.org expose end-users email addresses for spammers or virus-spreaders to utilize? For the life of me, I don't understand

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:03:06 -0500, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 08:19, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 05:51:16 -0500, > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > On Sun,

Re: installing fonts manually for tex

2003-10-19 Thread Aaron
Ian Melnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, > Hello all, > > I went through a lot of trouble trying to get the computer modern fonts > installed correctly for dvips, etc, when I finally came across the > tetex-extra package, which solved all my problems. My question is, using > the downloadable cmps-uni

Re: exim exposed to the internet

2003-10-19 Thread André Carezia
Em Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:12:43 +0200, David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > [...] > I had trouble with my ISPs mail server which was telling me that it > wasn't going to relay mail for me. [...] Maybe a new POP-before-SMTP scheme they're trying? -- André Carezia Eng. de Telecomunicações C

Re: software download

2003-10-19 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:01:04AM +0200, SpawnPPC wrote: > Where I can found and download with apt-get this software for DebianPPC > unstable distribution? You can do a "apt-cache search [whatever]" to find packages using your current repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list. If you need some

Re: Web-based e-mail system?

2003-10-19 Thread Aaron
Randy Orrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, > Aaron wrote: > >I currently use a fetchmail / procmail / mbox / mutt e-mail setup, > >with ssmtp (properly linked through `sendmail` of course) for sending. > >I would really like to have a web mail system set up so that I can at > >least read, if not send,

Re: wont install

2003-10-19 Thread Aaron
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, > On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 23:08, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > Tom wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 11:01:51PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > > > > >>stuart whittaker wrote: > > >> > > >>>file will unzip with winzip. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >>Since the me

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Scott C. Linnenbringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:33:39 -0400, Peter S Galbraith > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > True enough. But Emacs is _one_ application. You'd think they could > > do better in terms of frequency of release. > > Yeah, but it's a text editor. >

Re: Installing my own Apache?

2003-10-19 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Perhaps I should make this a more general question. My underlying question involves adding and upgrading new software not available in the official distribution. Let's say I want to put the new version of an IM client on my Woody system. Do I compile it from source, do a `make install` and be d

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Alan Shutko
"Scott C. Linnenbringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd say the emacs guys have run out of things to implement. Not really. There are a few branches working on longer-term things already. Also, there are a number of things already implemented in CVS that haven't been released. Why? Well, t

Re: nvidia drivers & kernel headers

2003-10-19 Thread John Yurcik
I thought of this after I sent this out, but would upgrading to testing resolve this problem? Knoppix 3.3 will "see" the video card I'm trying to install, and Debian stable doesn't. --- John Yurcik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, after creating the symbolic link the nvidia > shell script buil

AVI

2003-10-19 Thread Brian Netterfield
Hello. I have a question. I have recorded some live music clips (my job) and I want to put them on the web. I know how to embed them but I am running across a problem. My digital camera does not have a volume control and the speakers from our company are AWESOME. It is recor

AVI QUESTION

2003-10-19 Thread Brian Netterfield
Hello. I have a question. I have recorded some live music clips (my job) and I want to put them on the web. I know how to embed them but I am running across a problem. My digital camera does not have a volume control and the speakers from our company are AWESOME. It is recor

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:16:25 +0100, Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 01:25:18PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..amen. Not that hard, killing _is_ a sin, even in war: Say you and > > 2 more come for me. How do I stop you 3 with one bull

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread Tom
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 06:08:33PM -0700, Tom wrote: > I'll repeat: anyplace people want to kill us, we want to kill them. And just so there's no confusion: We want to kill members of the group Bin Ladan is inciting only to the extent that they want to kill us. Other than that we just don't give

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:09:54 -0500, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Tom writes: > > To start with, it should be graphical, so vim, emacs and the like > > are no option to me... > > What do you mean by graphical? Emacs has menus, icons, cut&paste with > t

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:33:39 -0400, Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > True enough. But Emacs is _one_ application. You'd think they could > do better in terms of frequency of release. Yeah, but it's a text editor. EMACS has been being developed for over 20 years or something. It'

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:59:08 -0400, Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 01:07:12AM -0700, Tom wrote: ..really? ;-) > > > ..as in; "Where _is_ Osama and Saddam?". And playing the > > > "west bank settler" games on the Iraqis, i

Re: software download

2003-10-19 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 17:48:11 -0700, Brad Boyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It wouldn't take much looking around to find what does exist. For > example, a simple search for 'opera web browser' on google got > me a link to their download pages in the first block of results. > Try searching before

Re: software download

2003-10-19 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:01:04 +0200, SpawnPPC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <...> > Hi all, > > I'm Emanuele, from Italy. > > Where I can found and download with apt-get this software for > DebianPPC unstable distribution? The following is a mixture of free/non-free/commercial software that can b

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread Tom
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 04:59:08PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: [snip] I was aware of all your facts and reasonings before you spoke. We just part ways on our interpretation of the facts. I'll repeat: anyplace people want to kill us, we want to kill them. I defy anyone to say Iraq was not a pla

Re: software download

2003-10-19 Thread Brad Boyer
Most of these things just do not exist for Linux on PPC. Several of them do not exist for any platform. It wouldn't take much looking around to find what does exist. For example, a simple search for 'opera web browser' on google got me a link to their download pages in the first block of results.

Re: Installing my own Apache?

2003-10-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: > > > I want to set up a development environment identical to that of my > > webhost, which means I need to install Apache 1.3.27, PHP 4.3.1, and > > MySQL 3.23.42, none of which are included by default in Woody. > > If you want to do it for testin

Re: Bind9 Files for Debian

2003-10-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian C wrote: > I'm trying to read the DNS HOWTO at: > http://langfeldt.net/DNS-HOWTO/BIND-9/ > > and am running into some confusion because Debian (woody) seems to name > some of the files differently than the HOWTO. Yes, I see that the HOWTO does have different names for things. And I see

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-19 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:45:21AM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld insinuated: > Hi, > > Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > > Okay, okay, I can think of an irregular German bit. As a small child, I > > once said "Du hast mich wehgetutet." (Instead of wehgetan.) I > > conjugated the verb improperly, and don't th

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-19 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 at 23:45 GMT, Viktor Rosenfeld penned: > > --7fwXp2o0gOrkU5lS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: > quoted-printable > > Hi, > > Monique Y. Herman wrote: > >> Okay, okay, I can think of an irregular German bit.

Re: More on spam

2003-10-19 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 at 23:17 GMT, Sidney Brooks penned: > > --- John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Much if not most spam originates in the US. > > So what? Where it originates doesn't matter, it is the purpose. Well, for one thing, I believe it affects the legal recourse and jurisdiction

Re: More on spam

2003-10-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 14:23:16 -0400, Dave Harding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 10:57:20AM -0700, Tom wrote: > > I think a more precise definition might be "unsolicited commercial > > or organizational email from a source in which I have no in

Apache config issue - 403 from Alias

2003-10-19 Thread Ian Melnick
Hi all, Anyone have an idea on why this isn't working? I copied the icon example, and the permissions are 755 throughout (and icons work), so why won't this? Alias /doc/ /usr/share/doc/ Options Indexes MultiViews AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all Thanks in advance

software download

2003-10-19 Thread SpawnPPC
Hi all, I'm Emanuele, from Italy. Where I can found and download with apt-get this software for DebianPPC unstable distribution? - Wine - WineX - PSX Emulator - Nintendo64 Emulator - Atari Jaguard Emulator - 3DO Emulator - CD32 Emulator - Dreamcast Emulator - XMame Emulator - XMameX (x server)

Re: kdelibs-data ... dpkg: error processing ... which is also in package k3b

2003-10-19 Thread J F
Solved: # dpkg -r k3b (Reading database ... 120015 files and directories currently installed.) Removing k3b ... # # dpkg -r xcdroast (Reading database ... 119935 files and directories currently installed.) Removing xcdroast ... # # aptitude It seems to work now. Not sure if the above fixed it o

Re: gnome 2.4 and sawfish weirdness

2003-10-19 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
Never mind. I just did and update/upgrade again and the problem is fixed. On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 03:07:37PM -0500, Ryan Nowakowski wrote: > Hey folks, > > I'm tracking unstable. After today's update/upgrade, gnome went to 2.4. > Now when I switch workspaces my windows shift randomly within eac

Re: unexpected IFS behavior with the newline character

2003-10-19 Thread Darik Horn
> Here is the relevant documentation from bash (1): >Word Splitting Thanks. (It turns out that the relevant information is in the "Quoting" section of that document.) The solution was to set the IFS variable to a literal value ^M with the $'' operator. The proper form of the given example

RE: defragmentation on M$ disc?

2003-10-19 Thread Joyce, Matthew
> -Original Message- > From: Joris Huizer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2003 9:02 PM > To: debian-list > Subject: defragmentation on M$ disc? > > > Hello everybody, > > I'm wondering, is 't possible to "defragmentate" a M$ disc > while running > in Debian? I wan

Trouble with Thunderbird

2003-10-19 Thread Roberto Sanchez
I just saw this morning that the mozilla-thunderbird package is available in Sid. I did and 'apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail' and everything seemed to go fine (except for some complaints about the -enigmail package trying to clobber files that belong to the plain -

Re: Cannot use type1 fonts with OpenOffice

2003-10-19 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:27:31AM +0200, Ernest Adrogu? wrote: > Hello, > > I'm using OpenOffice 1.1.0 and want to use some fonts > that I have in /usr/local/.../{truetype,type1}. They are > visible with gtkfontsel and gtk2fontsel, and show up in > xlsfonts and fc-list as well, but with OpenOffic

Re: RAID controller

2003-10-19 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Ron Rademaker wrote: Hello, I'm still trying to get my system to work with RAID, bit by bit I get a little further but now I've crossed across the next problem. I got my system booting with 2 hds attached to the Promise 20378 (SATA378), however when I activate RAID in the BIOS... The driver for th

Re: "spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7."

2003-10-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Daniel B. wrote: > Is this something I need to do something about: > Oct 18 20:29:30 dsb kernel: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7. Just ignore it. It basically means that you do not have anything connected to the parallel port. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html#spurious-8259A-interr

Cannot use type1 fonts with OpenOffice

2003-10-19 Thread Ernest Adrogué
Hello, I'm using OpenOffice 1.1.0 and want to use some fonts that I have in /usr/local/.../{truetype,type1}. They are visible with gtkfontsel and gtk2fontsel, and show up in xlsfonts and fc-list as well, but with OpenOffice I can only use the TrueType ones. The Type1 ones just doesn't appear in th

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-19 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Hi, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > Okay, okay, I can think of an irregular German bit. As a small child, I > once said "Du hast mich wehgetutet." (Instead of wehgetan.) I > conjugated the verb improperly, and don't think I've ever been allowed > to forget it, even after 20 years! Du hast *mir* we

Re: unexpected IFS behavior with the newline character

2003-10-19 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 07:15:11PM -0400, Darik Horn wrote: > Can anybody explain this shell behavior? -- It doesn't seem consistent > with the documentation about how whitespace is interpreted as an > internal field separator. Here is the relevant documentation from bash (1): Word Splitting

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Nicos Gollan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 19 October 2003 20:24, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > I guess I don't. Emacs _is_ graphical. And it has addons to do just > > about anything. > > Yeah, it's a nice OS, but it's desparately missing a good editor :-P > Further reference: http://ba

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 04:26:45PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: > > [about emacs] > > > (And yes, as someone else mentioned, the CVS version cab be built > > against GTK. Hopefully, there will be a release someday) > > One could say the same about Debian

Re: Installing my own Apache?

2003-10-19 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: > I want to set up a development environment identical to that of my > webhost, which means I need to install Apache 1.3.27, PHP 4.3.1, and > MySQL 3.23.42, none of which are included by default in Woody. If you want to do it for testing reasons, I suggest you install exa

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:34:55 -0400, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 04:26:45PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: > > [about emacs] > > > (And yes, as someone else mentioned, the CVS version cab be built > > against GTK. Hopefully, there will be a release someday) >

Re: More on spam

2003-10-19 Thread Sidney Brooks
--- John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sidney Brooks writes: > > Surely, I am not the only person who has thought > that spam is a tool for > > attacking the U. S. (yes to some this will seem > provincial) by crippling > > what has become a major means of communication. > > Much if not most

unexpected IFS behavior with the newline character

2003-10-19 Thread Darik Horn
Can anybody explain this shell behavior? -- It doesn't seem consistent with the documentation about how whitespace is interpreted as an internal field separator. # IFS="\n" # FOO="alpha\nbravo\ncharlie" # for i in $FOO; do echo "%${i}%"; done %alpha% %% %bravo% %% %charlie% When ash or bash doe

Re: apt-get install pkg and remove pkg on the same line?!

2003-10-19 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:59:59AM +0200, smurfd wrote: > Hey there Debian-user list, ive been thinking, (not well enough, as it > seems). > > How does dselect do, when you select/deselect packages to be > added/removed ? i mean, can you type yourself, like on one line.. > > apt-get install

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 12:42, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 at 17:03 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: > > On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 08:19, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > >> enough > >> as "Herrmensch" to convince me Adolf would have laughted his ass off. > > > > Ummm "Herr" is like "Sir", and

apt-get install pkg and remove pkg on the same line?!

2003-10-19 Thread smurfd
Hey there Debian-user list, ive been thinking, (not well enough, as it seems). How does dselect do, when you select/deselect packages to be added/removed ? i mean, can you type yourself, like on one line.. apt-get install packages remove packages? Im not meaning apt-get install p

Re: More on spam

2003-10-19 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 12:18:57PM -0500, John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Dave Harding writes: > > Did you file a complaint with your ISP? Did you investigate alternative > > providers? > > Some of us have no choice as to providers. email != connectivity. If nothing else, find a friend

Installing my own Apache?

2003-10-19 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I want to set up a development environment identical to that of my webhost, which means I need to install Apache 1.3.27, PHP 4.3.1, and MySQL 3.23.42, none of which are included by default in Woody. What's the best way to install these? Just install from source? Package them myself? What do oth

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 04:26:45PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: [about emacs] > (And yes, as someone else mentioned, the CVS version cab be built > against GTK. Hopefully, there will be a release someday) One could say the same about Debian. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jab

Re: More on spam

2003-10-19 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 11:37:05AM -0600, Paul E Condon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I like this suggestion. I know I don't know a lot about what spam > really is. I sense from reading this thread that others also don't > know a lot. Some do, but many don't. So research that results in firm > num

Re: PKARC

2003-10-19 Thread Darik Horn
Use the nomarch package: # apt-get install nomarch # nomarch myfile.arc James Lawing wrote: I have a single file I found dating back to 1990 that needs to be UN ARCed. Do you ahve the exe file that would do this task? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: More on spam

2003-10-19 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 01:54:30PM -0700, Sidney Brooks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Surely, I am not the only person who has thought that spam is a tool > for attacking the U. S. (yes to some this will seem provincial) by > crippling what has become a major means of communication. It can also > b

Re: Knoppix-like install of Debian?

2003-10-19 Thread Kenneth Dombrowski
On 03-10-19 16:14 -0500, Kent West wrote: > (You're leaving the stable lines in so you can get packages that haven't > seen any development since stable and therefore aren't in the unstable > branch, and you're leaving in the security line to get security patches, > which are applied to stable w

Re: More on spam

2003-10-19 Thread John Hasler
Sidney Brooks writes: > Surely, I am not the only person who has thought that spam is a tool for > attacking the U. S. (yes to some this will seem provincial) by crippling > what has become a major means of communication. Much if not most spam originates in the US. > yes to some this will seem pr

ALSA configuration for CT5880 onboard chip. ES1373? ES1371?

2003-10-19 Thread William Guynes
I run a custom compiled kernel using kernel-source 2.4.21-5, with sound module enabled... > > llama:~# modinfo soundcore > filename:/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o > description: "Core sound module" > author: "Alan Cox" > license: "GPL" The dependencies between al

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread Alan Shutko
Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I understand the point about Emacs being as "graphical" as anything else > in a certain way, but I can't believe *you* don't understand what I > meant with "graphical". :-) If mouse control, menus, tool bars, images in buffers, and being built with a widget too

gnome 2.4 and sawfish weirdness

2003-10-19 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
Hey folks, I'm tracking unstable. After today's update/upgrade, gnome went to 2.4. Now when I switch workspaces my windows shift randomly within each workspace. I'm using sawfish as my window manager. Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? Any solutions? - Ryan pgp0.pgp Descripti

RAID controller

2003-10-19 Thread Ron Rademaker
Hello, I'm still trying to get my system to work with RAID, bit by bit I get a little further but now I've crossed across the next problem. I got my system booting with 2 hds attached to the Promise 20378 (SATA378), however when I activate RAID in the BIOS... The driver for the controller suddenly

Revised logcheck man page

2003-10-19 Thread Ross Boylan
Here is my revised version of the logcheck man page. The package author has neither reviewed nor approved it, but I think it is accurate. I couldn't figure out how logcheck worked, so I read the code and then documented it. Note that the subject headings for email messages given in the man page

Re: Where to download old Potato packages?

2003-10-19 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 10:39:10PM +0200, Markus Kolb wrote: > Hi, > > where can I find the old Debian Potato release packages? > There is still a directory /debian/dists/potato on ftp.debian.org but > some packages are lost there. > Same on mirrors ... > I need > /debian/dists/potato/main/binar

Re: defragmentation on M$ disc?

2003-10-19 Thread Kent West
Ian Melnick wrote: Now the stupid windows defragmentation tool keeps restarting as other stupid programs are writing so it'd take ages to defragmentate a disc of 40 GB :-P So I want to know wether this can be done under linux (I can Well, you already got your answer, but with defrag cont

Re: browsers (galeon; mozilla) really slow

2003-10-19 Thread Kent West
Nori Heikkinen wrote: for the past two or so weeks, galeon especially, but also usually mozilla, have been really slow to load pages -- and by "really slow" i mean up to an hour. lynx and w3m, OTOH, load the same pages in normal time. i'm utterly miffed as to what could be causing this -- has an

PKARC

2003-10-19 Thread James Lawing
I have a single file I found dating back to 1990 that needs to be UN ARCed. Do you ahve the exe file that would do this task?

Re: Trouble with Lilo, Grub, Redhat, and Debian

2003-10-19 Thread Jerome R. Acks
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 11:40:55AM -0700, John Schofield wrote: > > Was able to mount /boot following your last message, so I'm not > shooting as much in the dark as I was. > > > To recap. > Red Hat 8 on /dev/hda, with a /dev/hda1 /boot, a /dev/hda2 /, and a > /dev/hda3 swap > On /dev/hdb, we

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 05:16:45AM +0800, David Palmer. wrote: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:57:12 -0400 > Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > klaus imgrund wrote: > > Anyplace where there is a large group of young males who express a > > > > > desire to kill Americans AND is unche

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