Re: [OT-ish] IGPL - Idea General Public Licence

2003-08-28 Thread John Hasler
Hubert Chan writes: > Ideas cannot be copyrighted. In order to protect an idea, you need to > patent it... You are not supposed to be able to patent an idea either. Unfortunately the distinction between an idea and an invention escapes the USPTO (and most judges as well). -- John Hasler [EMAIL

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > There are no organizations without internal politics. Mark Ferlatte writes: > I disagree (and am happily working for one with a stated policy against > such wastes of effort and time)... Oh, well. That's different. If it's against policy then of _course_ it can't happen. > ...but ob

Re: apt-get online question

2003-08-28 Thread James LeClair
Bill wrote: > When installing Debian I was asked if I want to use apt-get online or from > cdrom. I chose cdrom but now I would like to go on line. Do I have to go > through the dbconfig again, or is there another way of doing it. I would > really like to use either cdrom or online. > > Thank yo

Re: compatible FS between linux and windows

2003-08-28 Thread gerard
linux can read FAT32/16, and NTFS. There are also a couple programs that can read linux partitions from windows Check out Explore2fs http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm and this one http://sssup1.sssup.it/~pit/reiserfs.html. ~gerard http://devslash.org - Original Messag

Re: email server setup

2003-08-28 Thread gerard
I wrote a little how to for setting up cyrus IMAP, if you want to check that out. http://devslash.org/?topic=cyrus The newer version supports SSL as well. ~gerard - Original Message - From: "Joyce, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:49 PM

problem setting up locales

2003-08-28 Thread Slava Mikerin
hello, i am having a problem with locales package configuration. here is the printout: .. Setting up locales (2.3.2-4) ... Generating locales... Leave.alone...cannot open locale definition file `Leave': No such file or directory dpkg: error processing locales (--configure): subprocess post-

Ark error: Utility zip is not in your PATH

2003-08-28 Thread Slava Mikerin
I get an error in ark "Utility zip is not in your PATH" however i do have zip installed. bash-2.05b# which zip /usr/bin/zip i tried reinstalling ark, but that does not help any suggestions? thanks, slava __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use w

DNAT

2003-08-28 Thread Mattia Martinello
Hi all I created a script that setup a set of rules on the nat table. It works good without any problem on SuSE 8.0, and now I wish to move the system on Debian. I installed Debian and I set the network correctly like on SuSE and I copied the script on it. The scripts shows me no error, and t

compatible FS between linux and windows

2003-08-28 Thread AnotherLinuxGuy
is fat32/16 the only FS that windows can see and write to the same with linux? i want to run a dual boot machine, and have a couple HDs that both OSs can write too etc, is a FAT FS my only option? or does windows see other FSs? particularly XP Pro is what ill be using -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

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Re: apt-get online question

2003-08-28 Thread Doug MacFarlane
apt-setup will let you configure online sources, either via http or ftp. It will also prompt you for adding the debian security sources, which is also a good idea. madmac - Original Message - From: "William Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 28

[Oh Joy]: Preliminary PHP4 support for Apache2

2003-08-28 Thread Xavier Maillard
Hi, Since ages now I am struggling to have a full Apache2/PHP4 safe, reliable and _usable_ environment ready and running at home but not only. What a surprise when I've seen the latest PHP4 package update was the first to officially "embedd" (typo ?) Apache2 support ! Okay it is not used/built a

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Lamb wrote: > That's just it, I don't like C indenting any more, period. It isn't > "someone else's style" that is the problem, it is the fact that it is the > antithesis of how I've grown to like to code. Lemme put it this way: > > C: > if foo > bar; That's bad style unless you h

email server setup

2003-08-28 Thread Joyce, Matthew
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apt-get online question

2003-08-28 Thread William Bradley
When installing Debian I was asked if I want to use apt-get online or from cdrom. I chose cdrom but now I would like to go on line. Do I have to go through the dbconfig again, or is there another way of doing it. I would really like to use either cdrom or online. Thank you, Bill. -- William

Re: Debian and KDE (Update 3, It works!! )

2003-08-28 Thread William Bradley
Once again, thank you to all who responded to the above. When logged in as "root" I can access "kppp" from the command line. I can also access it from the "Internet Dialer" icon from within KDE. As a user in KDE and using the "Internet Dialer" icon I am still getting: KDEInit could not launch '

diagnosis - was Re: some reality about iptables, please

2003-08-28 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 02:35, Jacob Anawalt wrote: > Wow, those were some rules. It will take a bit for me to get my head > around them. Are you looking at a book on ipchains at the same time by > chance? You have so many similar rules in the input, forward and output > chains, that it reminds

Re: [OT-ish] IGPL - Idea General Public Licence

2003-08-28 Thread Hubert Chan
> "Karl" == Karl M Hegbloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Karl> What if we made a GPL for Ideas? Write up your idea, and licence Karl> it under a GPL like licence. Since I cannot just get a thing done Karl> or manufactured, perhaps I can get my idea accomplished by simply Karl> sharing it...?

Re: [DEB-USER] Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:07:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 22:57, bob parker wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 01:55, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 04:06, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 27 August 2003 3:59 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > On Wed,

Re: Debian Networking problems

2003-08-28 Thread Erinn
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 15:39, Ronnie Tarkas wrote: > I have just recently installed and set up a Debian GNU/Linux > machine > I know for a fact that the Network card is working, as I downloaded > and installed things with apt-get.. Yay :) > Now, I can't connect to the Debian server, from

Re: modules of different kernels (same version)

2003-08-28 Thread Paul E Condon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 11:44:47PM +0200, Andreas Janssen wrote: > Hello > > Robert Epprecht (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > I have read different documents about kernel compiling, > > but something is still not clear to me: > > > > If I compile different kernels (of the same version) most do

Re: strange xawtv problem...

2003-08-28 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Thursday 28 August 2003 22:26, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > since the last update somehow xawtv has a problem > > xawtv > This is xawtv-3.88, running on Linux/i686 (2.4.20-3-k7) > NV: could not get NV card info (Das Argument ist ungültig) > X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid paramet

Re: VIA CPU's

2003-08-28 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 10:52 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 15:36, Peter Nuttall wrote: > > On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 8:01 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 13:16, Peter Nuttall wrote: > > > > On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 6:07 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2003

Re: What is the Best DVD burner for linux?

2003-08-28 Thread Greg Madden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 28 August 2003 05:36 am, Jake Johnson wrote: > I am in the market for a dvd burner and I was wondering what everyone > recommends? ide/scsi/usb > > Thanks, > Jake Johnson > [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list has some good info on what works..etc.

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Re: modules of different kernels (same version)

2003-08-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
--- Robert Epprecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > I have read different documents about kernel compiling, > but something is still not clear to me: > > If I compile different kernels (of the same version) most documents > say to rename the /lib/modules/x.x.x/ directory before doing the > 'make

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Re: modules of different kernels (same version)

2003-08-28 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Robert Epprecht (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I have read different documents about kernel compiling, > but something is still not clear to me: > > If I compile different kernels (of the same version) most documents > say to rename the /lib/modules/x.x.x/ directory before doing the > 'mak

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Re: E1000 nic fails; used to work

2003-08-28 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 4:24 pm, Kent West wrote: > Kent West wrote: > > I've got a fairly new Dell GX260 with an integrated gigabit nic. I > > started out with 2.2.20 (stable), but that didn't recognize the nic, > > so I used Knoppix to download a newer kernel (2.4.18, and all the > > attendent de

Re: VIA CPU's - heatsink/fans

2003-08-28 Thread Alvin Oga
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:13:47 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What brand of fans and CPU cooler do you use? first attempt.. - try those heatsink/fans that market themself as "silent fans" whole bunch of fans http://www.

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Mark Ferlatte
John Hasler said on Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 04:16:28PM -0500: > Mark Ferlatte writes: > > If your company tolerates internal politics, well, you're going to be in > > trouble when your competitor, who doesn't tolerate that kind of crap, > > comes along. > > There are no organizations without internal

Re: VIA CPU's

2003-08-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:36:34PM +0100, Peter Nuttall wrote: > On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 8:01 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: [ 43 million levels of quoting ] > > It was a joke. Note the emoticon ":-p". I may be American, but > > I'm not *that* ignorant. Besides, isn't it Pounds Sterling? > > > > "You

Re: CD players not working although sound otherwise fine

2003-08-28 Thread Edward Murrell
Try chmod 770 /dev/hdc Other than that, try running it as root. One thing you may find useful as a side note is the digital CD plugin for XMMS. apt-get install xmms-cdread It enables reading of CD's so the digital-analog conversion is done on the sound card instead of in the CD drive, and transmi

Re: VIA CPU's

2003-08-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 15:36, Peter Nuttall wrote: > On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 8:01 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 13:16, Peter Nuttall wrote: > > > On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 6:07 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 10:31, Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote: > > > > > Ron Jo

Re: Command line printing

2003-08-28 Thread Wayne Gemmell
Hi > You seem to be tackling many problems at once. > First get the network printing to work, and then OOo. > Also, from what you wrote below, I assume you use CUPS instead of Samba > for network printing. Can you use cups to print from a win$ computer? > > > Oo seems to need a commandline

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-08-28T19:56:49Z, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > EG these are wrong: > > C: > if foo > bar; I agree. When I was learning C, I was taught to *always* use brackets, even when they weren't necessarily, specifically to make it easier to expand: if (foo) { bar; } into

Re: Debian Networking problems

2003-08-28 Thread Edward Murrell
First question - Can you ping it, or can the debian box access the network and/or Internet. For user/groups see commands adduser, and addgroup (you can get the manual pages for these by typing in man adduser, and man addgroup at the console). There's also a couple of tools under GNOME and KDE to

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-08-28T18:37:34Z, Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd guess the latter. I've seen what could have been good software > engineering if management had been willing to work within the system. I wasn't thinking - 'nuff said. Yeah, I remember a particular manager that was duly i

Re: VIA CPU's

2003-08-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 14:23, Joey Hess wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > The primary design goal of these x86 CPUs is low power usage. In > > fact, they just released a *passively cooled* 733MHz CPU. > > And? I have a 867 mhz transmeta cpu in my laptop. No fan. No heat > issues. I think their newer

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:20:07 -0700 Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >what do you do if the indentation is lost? you e.g. copy and paste or > email piece of code etc. and it changes spaces into tabs or vice versa > or removes newlines or somebody accidentally joins two lines together or

Re: modutils and module-init-tools duplicating work

2003-08-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
--- Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > It seems that modutils and module-init-tools are duplicating most of the > work. > Both of them do some check as of the kernel's ability to load modules, > module-init-tools also checks for /proc/modules. > Then both run depmod, modutils does a bit

Double "VPN"-PPD-SSH network break

2003-08-28 Thread Botha, Francois
Hi, I've got a interesting-playing-with ssh-vpn type setup where I tunnel over SSH to a remote machine and start up pppd so these two machines are networked, the command is something like: pppd nodetach noauth 192.168.0.1:192.168.0.2 pty 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin/startupvpn.sh' Where on [EMAIL

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread John Hasler
Mark Ferlatte writes: > If your company tolerates internal politics, well, you're going to be in > trouble when your competitor, who doesn't tolerate that kind of crap, > comes along. There are no organizations without internal politics. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Hors

Re: nis installation question

2003-08-28 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Z F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have a question regarding NIS+ client installation. > >I am doing it for the first time and I think I followed all procedures >from the NIS-HOWTO correctly. > >I am running unstable. > >The problem is that it worked, but after reboo

Re: Slow CD burning with k3b, cdrecord

2003-08-28 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Christof Hurschler (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I can't seem to get my 8x CDRW to record faster than 8x. Well, if you have an 8x writer, you can not record faster than 8x. That's why it is called "8x". > I've let k3bsetup do it's thing, so I don't understand why I get the > warnings

Re: Problems getting ATI driver for X working.

2003-08-28 Thread amg
> I just got my brand new PCI Radeon 7000. I popped it in and it booted > However, X won't use the ati driver. It keeps saying no devices found. I > can get it to at least > start if I use the ati driver with framebuffer disabled, but then it spews > garbage on the screen > and locks up. > Any idea

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Erik Steffl
Steve Lamb wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:52:35 -0600 Jacob Anawalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Was this code on a Unix system, or did you have one nearby? Did you know about the indent program at the time? (man indent) It _seems_ to work for me to convert someone elses sytle (or lack of it) in

modules of different kernels (same version)

2003-08-28 Thread Robert Epprecht
I have read different documents about kernel compiling, but something is still not clear to me: If I compile different kernels (of the same version) most documents say to rename the /lib/modules/x.x.x/ directory before doing the 'make modules_install' step. How can I boot the system after that wi

Re: how to get ssh-agent to work again?

2003-08-28 Thread James Strandboge
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 13:11, Alexander Koch wrote: > Now, where do I have to put ssh-agent in my .xinitrc > exec /usr/bin/gnome-session use: exec ssh-agent /usr/bin/gnome-session Jamie -- Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG/PGP ID: 26384A3A Fingerprint: D9FF DF4A 2D46 A353 A289 E8F5 AA75

Re: VIA CPU's

2003-08-28 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 8:01 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 13:16, Peter Nuttall wrote: > > On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 6:07 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 10:31, Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote: > > > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 06:34, Chris Wi

amavis and exim 3

2003-08-28 Thread Streph Treadway
Hey, Everyone, I have been recently trying to get amavis (amavisd-new and amavisd-new-milter) to work with Exim 3 and have been having some problems. I have included the sections outlined in /usr/share/doc/amavisd-new/README.exim_v3 in my exim.conf changing only current_directory="/var/amavis" t

Debian Networking problems

2003-08-28 Thread Ronnie Tarkas
I have just recently installed and set up a Debian GNU/Linux machine I know for a fact that the Network card is working, as I downloaded and installed things with apt-get..   Now, I can't connect to the Debian server, from my WinXP computer, via our local network,  nor can I access it

[Virus detected]

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strange xawtv problem...

2003-08-28 Thread Bruno Boettcher
Hello, since the last update somehow xawtv has a problem xawtv This is xawtv-3.88, running on Linux/i686 (2.4.20-3-k7) NV: could not get NV card info (Das Argument ist ungültig) X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX)

Re: VIA CPU's

2003-08-28 Thread Joey Hess
Ron Johnson wrote: > The primary design goal of these x86 CPUs is low power usage. In > fact, they just released a *passively cooled* 733MHz CPU. And? I have a 867 mhz transmeta cpu in my laptop. No fan. No heat issues. I think their newer models go up to 1 ghz. -- see shy jo pgp0.pgp Des

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread tallison
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:35:25 +0200 > Francois Bottin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Compare it with SUN's recomendations for Java (but useable also for C): >> if (cond) { >> block; >> } else { >> block; >> } > >> In this case I find it much better than the GNU Coding Standards, and >> ther

Please confirm (conf#14b06c440c17046836fbeb01ac264fed)

2003-08-28 Thread Alfonso Pierantonio
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Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:29:36PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 12:21, Diego Calleja Garc?a wrote: > > El Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:12:22 -0500 Ron Johnson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi?: > > > KDE is pretty fast, and the MS VC++ generates excellent binaries. > > > > Tried running

Re: resolv.conf file

2003-08-28 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:06:57PM -0400, Victory wrote: | I setup my machine as a dhcp client, once in a while | it add 000 to the end of search entry in "resolv.conf" file | i.e "search mydomain.com\000" and it causing machine can not | ping other machine by name, | Where're these number 000 co

[OT] Regenerating mldodonkey file download list

2003-08-28 Thread Micha Feigin
Occasionally my machine dies and if mldonkey was running at the time then I lose the download file list (which can mean losing several Gigs of data). Anyone knows how to generate such a list from the temp directory? Its the debian version of the package. Thanx -- Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

libperl-dev -- question to debian user

2003-08-28 Thread Keith Goettert
Title: Message I have also noticed that libperl.a seems misplaced.  Did you ever get an answer out of the community?   ==  From: Bill Moseley  Why does it seem like libperl.a is in the wrong place? I'm running testing. ii perl

Re: TrueType fonts (again)

2003-08-28 Thread Micha Feigin
You could try dpkg -L to see where the packages were installed and then add that path under /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 also make sure that you either have a font server or that you are loading the true type fonts module for X. Try adding Load "freetype" to the modules section. also can help Load "t

modutils and module-init-tools duplicating work

2003-08-28 Thread Micha Feigin
It seems that modutils and module-init-tools are duplicating most of the work. Both of them do some check as of the kernel's ability to load modules, module-init-tools also checks for /proc/modules. Then both run depmod, modutils does a bit more work at it. Next both of them load all the modules in

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Ron Johnson said on Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:16:22PM -0500: > The SDLC and corporate politics are independent. Academics should > take corporate politics into consideration when coming up with these > theories. There's a good reason they don't: corporate politics are not a benefit to the company,

Re: Linux - CDR

2003-08-28 Thread Henning Moll
On Thursday 28 August 2003 21:32, Henning Moll wrote: > which is fine for most distributions (including debian/woody) but not > debian/sid, because /usr/bin/cdrecord is not a binary anymore but a shell > script wrapper to cdrecord.mmap resp. cdrecord.shm. The real binary files > (mmap/shm) also nee

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:21:53 +0200 Diego Calleja García <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > El Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:12:22 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > escribió: > > KDE is pretty fast, and the MS VC++ generates excellent binaries. > Tried running kde apps outside of kde? No. But I do run G

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Steve Lamb
I really loathe people who CC me things they respond to on list. Even more so for people who send a completely separate message. Here's the short version of what I had sent in private. > Pyhton I have to think. Also my editor doesn't support % for python, it > can't autofold python and so on

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:35:25 +0200 Francois Bottin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Compare it with SUN's recomendations for Java (but useable also for C): > if (cond) { > block; > } else { > block; > } > In this case I find it much better than the GNU Coding Standards, and there > is only on

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:18:54 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 07:23, Steve Lamb wrote: > > SLOC? > Source Lines Of Code. Basically, source code that has been stripped > of comments and blank lines. Ah. I'd never heard of that one before. Thanks. --

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:10:33 +0200 Anders Arnholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of the main reasons is that Python leaves a loot of the resolving to > runtime, that means that the code actually has to be run before you can > see tha actuall typo found at compile time in languanges as C. Th

[OT-ish] IGPL - Idea General Public Licence

2003-08-28 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
What if we made a GPL for Ideas? Write up your idea, and licence it under a GPL like licence. Since I cannot just get a thing done or manufactured, perhaps I can get my idea accomplished by simply sharing it...? I thought of this, again, while reading: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/28/technolo

Slow CD burning with k3b, cdrecord

2003-08-28 Thread Christof Hurschler
I can't seem to get my 8x CDRW to record faster than 8x. I've let k3bsetup do it's thing, so I don't understand why I get the warnings below. any suggestions would be appreciated. Chris System --- K3b Version: 0.9 KDE Version: 3.1.2 QT Version: 3.1.2 cdrecord

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 14:10, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2003-08-28T18:15:09Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > SDLC! What a joke! > > OK, I'll bite. Does everyone here honestly hate software engineering? Or > is it that they haven't seen it done well? I, for one, love it when I have a job t

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:10:10PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2003-08-28T18:15:09Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > SDLC! What a joke! > > OK, I'll bite. Does everyone here honestly hate software engineering? Or > is it that they haven't seen it done well? I'd guess the latter. I'v

Re: resolv.conf file

2003-08-28 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 13:06, Victory wrote: > I setup my machine as a dhcp client, once in a while > it add 000 to the end of search entry in "resolv.conf" file > i.e "search mydomain.com\000" and it causing machine can not > ping other machine by name, > Where're these number 000 come from and h

Re: Linux - CDR

2003-08-28 Thread Henning Moll
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 21:15, Wayne Gemmell wrote: > Have you gotten K3B to work for regular users? I get the error Yes, but i did run into the same problem: after a fresh install of package cdrecord, its main files have these permissions: # ls -la /usr/bin/cdrecord* -rwxr-xr-x1 root

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Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 13:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 07:58:01PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > >> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:53:26 -0500 > >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Seriously, though, OO languages, being born of academia, were designed > >> > *not* to be

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-08-28T18:15:09Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > SDLC! What a joke! OK, I'll bite. Does everyone here honestly hate software engineering? Or is it that they haven't seen it done well? -- Kirk Strauser pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian and KDE (Update 2)

2003-08-28 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello William Bradley (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > Once again, thank you to all who responded to the above. > > When logged in as "root" I can access "kppp" from the command line. I > can also access it from the "Internet Dialer" icon from within KDE. > > As a user in KDE and using the "Inter

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread bob parker
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:13, Jacob Anawalt wrote: > bob parker wrote: > > C is easier to learn than shell scripting, the elements at least, much > > less > > > >Perl. I personally find it quicker to code a dirty fix in C than anything > >else and would not really consider shell programming for anythi

Re: VIA CPU's

2003-08-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 13:16, Peter Nuttall wrote: > On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 6:07 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 10:31, Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote: > > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 06:34, Chris Wilcox wrote: > > > >>>On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 00:05, Steve Lamb w

Re: Linux - CDR

2003-08-28 Thread Wayne Gemmell
> > > > -rws--x---1 root cdrecord 142 Jul 10 14:16 > > /usr/bin/cdrecord so I'm back where I started. > > Also whats the s in the perms(above)? i.e. rws and how is it set? > > The "s" means that if executed, the cdrecord program will not run with > your user id, but with the user id of

how to get ssh-agent to work again?

2003-08-28 Thread Alexander Koch
I was using gdm for some time and it worked nicely. At some point I was only using xinit and it worked and only with xinit I have my umlauts (tricky case, long story). Now, where do I have to put ssh-agent in my .xinitrc or so so that all terminals opened have it? If I start it in my .xinitrc, it

Re: VIA CPU's

2003-08-28 Thread tallison
> Ron, you disappoint me :-( > > Clearly he is referring to the force exerted in raising the fan from zero > potential energy (the ground) to a state of higher potential energy > (perhaps > his desk). Obviously, that is what it cost :-) > > The 8 pound cooler is better becuase it cost less to move

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 11:06, Alan Shutko wrote: > Anders Arnholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > If this happen in C, :0=G and it's possible to read, if we have the > > same situation in Pyhton I have to think. Also my editor doesn't > > support % for python, it can't autofold python and so on a

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 12:21, Diego Calleja García wrote: > El Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:12:22 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > KDE is pretty fast, and the MS VC++ generates excellent binaries. > > Tried running kde apps outside of kde? Well, no. Why should it matter? -- ---

Re: VIA CPU's

2003-08-28 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 6:07 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 10:31, Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 06:34, Chris Wilcox wrote: > > >>>On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 00:05, Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:21:57 +0200 (CEST) > >

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread tallison
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 07:58:01PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: >> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:53:26 -0500 >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Seriously, though, OO languages, being born of academia, were designed >> > *not* to be quick-'n-dirty languages. They were designed with >> > large pr

resolv.conf file

2003-08-28 Thread Victory
I setup my machine as a dhcp client, once in a while it add 000 to the end of search entry in "resolv.conf" file i.e "search mydomain.com\000" and it causing machine can not ping other machine by name, Where're these number 000 come from and how do to protect it from doing it again ??? Regards,

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi! On Thu Aug 28, 2003 at 01:54:44AM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 05:08:08AM +0200, Thomas Krennwallner wrote: > > Go and read "Design Patterns: Elements Of Reusable Object-Oriented > > Software"[1]. It's THE book for developers who think like you. He, I was > > in your g

Re: VIA CPU's

2003-08-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
--- Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 10:31, Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 06:34, Chris Wilcox wrote: > > > > > >>>On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 00:05, Steve Lamb wrote: > > >>> > > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:21:57 +0200

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Mike Mueller
On Thursday 28 August 2003 10:55, Tom Badran wrote: > On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 14:36, Mike Mueller wrote: > > On Thursday 28 August 2003 05:18, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > The One True Editor > > > > vi - for C, C++, Python, DocBook, HTML, whatever... > > that be smelling like petrol to me . c

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Diego Calleja García
El Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:12:22 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > KDE is pretty fast, and the MS VC++ generates excellent binaries. Tried running kde apps outside of kde? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Paul E Condon
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 07:58:01PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:53:26 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Seriously, though, OO languages, being born of academia, were designed > > *not* to be quick-'n-dirty languages. They were designed with > > large projects

Re: security updates. What about Kernel patches

2003-08-28 Thread Rob Weir
[Please don't top quote! It makes your message harder to read, especially in long threads.] On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:03:47PM +0100, Greg Bolshaw wrote: > Vincent Dupont wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I'm staring with Debian and find the security updates very usefull with > >apt-get > >It's very comfort

Re: TrueType fonts (again)

2003-08-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:31:50PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote: > On Thursday 28 August 2003 04:43, Robert Storey wrote: > > I upgraded to Sid. Mozilla, which previously had bitmapped fonts, now > > has > > TrueType fonts - apt-get dist-upgrade" seems to have handled this > > automagically . That's g

Re: VIA CPU's

2003-08-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 10:31, Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 06:34, Chris Wilcox wrote: > > > >>>On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 00:05, Steve Lamb wrote: > >>> > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:21:57 +0200 (CEST) > Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [sn

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