Re: ergonomic laptop keyboard?

2003-06-04 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Tue, 03 Jun 2003 11:32:56PM -0500, Kent West insinuated: > Kevin Mark wrote: > > >On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 13:08, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > > > > >> > >>I would love to see a normal laptop, > >> > >> > >never in a million years. its form factor doesnt allow it. > > > > > >> but with a keyb

Re: ergonomic laptop keyboard?

2003-06-04 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Wed, 04 Jun 2003 12:56:52PM +0800, Brian Walker insinuated: > > any tips would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > [1] http://www.maenad.net/geek/split_keyboard.jpg > > What about using the Dvorak layout? It is reported to be great for > avoiding RSI. > > $ setxkbmap dvorak i already do ... a

Re: modem compatibilty

2003-06-04 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Most (unfortunately not all, but most) external modems are fully > interchangeable. Baloo Ursidae writes: > All external modems work. All external modems are not fully interchangeable. There are a few that are shipped with whacked-out default configurations or, worse yet, have buggy i

Re: Gnome2.2 Window Manager

2003-06-04 Thread Hamid
Il mer, 2003-06-04 alle 10:22, Mark C ha scritto: metacity seems faster, but less options, if you wish to use metacity, then: apt-get install metacity metacity-setup I agree. Once logged in to gnome, if you wish to use metacity, open gnome terminal/xterm or whatever and run: Find the

Gnome 2 vs. KDE

2003-06-04 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
I am running Woody, and loading some packages I want from backports I've found on the web. It seems that installing the Gnome 2 backport removes my KDE desktop. I've even found a KDE 3.1 site, but the Gnome 2 install threatens to remove KDE without replacement. Does anyone know what the issue is

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread David Fokkema
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 01:21:08PM +0100, Hugh Saunders wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:40:17PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:41:37AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > Or maybe it's easier to just lobby the various MLM authors to add > > > > List-Id? If so, where

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread David Fokkema
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 04:04:16AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:40:17PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > > Er... is debian-user using List-Id? I don't seem to be able to locate it > > in the headers... Might be my eyes, of

Re: /bin/bash: Permission denied

2003-06-04 Thread gabriel meier
Dan Dofton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 03.06.03 16:11:13: > > On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 12:32:46 +0200 > "gabriel meier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> So login is possible at the moment only for root. > > > >> I checked all the user rights of / /bin /bin/bash and its dependend > >

Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 04:01:14AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 09:53:15PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > > The trouble is it isn't standard. SI is a standard; the binary stuff has > > broken it. But it hasn't even broken

Re: How to reconfigure network settings easily?

2003-06-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 06:13, Jon Ramsey wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 03:14:37AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 10:46:56AM +0100, Jon Ramsey wrote: > > > I'm running a testing/unstable system on a new machine for home. I set > > > up the machine at work with a static ip,

Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Hamid
Well, I did not mean to threaten you guys or try to get more response. That was what really I was about to do because I did not have any desktop and I had to get some work done. Anyway, after reading the responses I could get my beloved KDE back. THANKS ALL YOU. Hamid Paul Johnson wrote: --

Postscript level 3 with dvips

2003-06-04 Thread Sven Garbade
Hi List, how can I create a postscript level 3 file from a dvi file? I use the tetex 1.0.2 distribution and it seems that dvips produce only Postscript level 2 files. Thanks, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Debian installation from hard disk

2003-06-04 Thread Sharninder Singh-662
i read that document already but as i said the instructions there are only for LILO and i only have the NT boot loader. i've been struggling with this since quite some time but have'nt been able to do this...please help me - Original Message - From: "Paul Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: Gnome2.2 Window Manager

2003-06-04 Thread Gavrila
Il mer, 2003-06-04 alle 10:22, Mark C ha scritto: > > metacity seems faster, but less options, if you wish to use metacity, > then: > > apt-get install metacity metacity-setup I agree. > Once logged in to gnome, if you wish to use metacity, open gnome > terminal/xterm or whatever and run: >

Re: [Again] small mail server & IPTABLES

2003-06-04 Thread Lukas Ruf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hallo * Vittorio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-06-04 13:15]: > > Now I DON'T want that from the outside world, from the Internet via > ppp0 someone could access my imap server which is on duty for my > internal network only. > > What IPTABLES lines should I add to

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:40:17PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:41:37AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Or maybe it's easier to just lobby the various MLM authors to add > > > List-Id? If so, where could I find a list of MLMs and their > > > respective authors? > > >

Re: How to reconfigure network settings easily?

2003-06-04 Thread Jon Ramsey
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 03:14:37AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 10:46:56AM +0100, Jon Ramsey wrote: > > I'm running a testing/unstable system on a new machine for home. I set > > up the machine at work with a static ip, gateway and dns for our work > > network. I've now move

Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 09:53:15PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > The trouble is it isn't standard. SI is a standard; the binary stuff has > broken it. But it hasn't even broken it consistently; when talking about > storage we use powers of 2, but when

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:40:17PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > Er... is debian-user using List-Id? I don't seem to be able to locate it > in the headers... Might be my eyes, of course, ;-) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=78237 They

视频分配器组-与硬盘录象机配套使用解决工程困扰

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[Again] small mail server & IPTABLES

2003-06-04 Thread Vittorio
At home where I have a dsl internet connection I set up a small debian 3.0 server to work - above all - as a gateway & IPTABLES firewall (masqueranding the 2 windows 2000 PCs which are connected to it) and connecting to the net via a "ppp on demand". Recently I have installed the uw-imapd & fetch

Re: Small mail server

2003-06-04 Thread Vittorio
Vittorio [debian-user] <03/06/03 12:05 +>: > At home where I have a dsl internet connection I set up a small debian > 3.0 server to work - above all - as a gateway & firewall > (masqueranding the 2 windows 2000 PCs which are connected to it) and > connecting to the net via a "ppp on demand". >

Re: Problems upgrading from potato to woody

2003-06-04 Thread Sharninder Singh-662
> > First question: can I force the configure stage of mc ('Setting up > mc-common (4.5.55-1.2)') to run again, so that I can get the new file? do u want this ... dpkg-reconfigure mc > > I have never got this to work before, but I had hoped it would this > time, plus I thought it would be n

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread David Fokkema
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:41:37AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Or maybe it's easier to just lobby the various MLM authors to add > > List-Id? If so, where could I find a list of MLMs and their > > respective authors? > > When you find a list that doesn't, point out the RFC and ask the list > o

Re: ALSA/SBLive problem

2003-06-04 Thread Greg Norris
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 08:39:33PM -0600, Tom Schutter wrote: > I am having problems setting up ALSA on my Debian box. When I try to > play an OGG file using XMMS, XMMS hangs. When I try to play an OGG > file using alsaplayer, I get no sound, and alsaplayer moves through > the song at 30x. The s

Re: apt-get can't find nvidia contributed driver package

2003-06-04 Thread Jack Dodds
Kevin, Thanks for your reply. I think you are right, I don't have the "contrib" section. After posting my original message, I discovered the earlier exchange titled "nvidia video cards", including an opinion that the nvidia package works only if recompiled, so getting nvidia may not solve my pro

Re: Partitioning advice, 13.9 GB HD

2003-06-04 Thread Roberto Sanchez
--- lists1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: 500 MB > > Should swap be larger with 128 MB Ram, dealing with 700 MB+ iso images (my > burner is on this box). Did I make opt too small? > I don't that's an issue. I routinely burn 700 MB ISO images on a Pentium Pro 200 with only 128 MB RAM and

Re: ssh or VPN

2003-06-04 Thread Jon Haugsand
* Thomas Elsen > SSH is way of getting a prompt on a remote machine. It's the same as > telnet but encrypted. Although you can create encrypted tunnels between > two hosts with ssh, it's easier to do it with VPN. Well, actually, it is more. With X forwarding, you can open any application on remot

make menuconfig says I don't have ncurses

2003-06-04 Thread Roberto Sanchez
I tried executing 'make menuconfig; in my kernel (2.4.20) source directory on my Woody box and received this error: make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20/scripts/lxdialog' /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >> Unable to find the Ncurses li

Re: How to reconfigure network settings easily?

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 10:46:56AM +0100, Jon Ramsey wrote: > I'm running a testing/unstable system on a new machine for home. I set > up the machine at work with a static ip, gateway and dns for our work > network. I've now moved the machine home and

Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please don't post upside down, most languages do not read in random order. 8:o) http://ursine.ca/jargon/html/email-style.html On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:43:09PM -0400, Hamid wrote: > >on my system this is supplied by: > >kdelibs4 > >Do you have: > >

Problems upgrading from potato to woody

2003-06-04 Thread Peter Hugosson-Miller
I have a couple of problems upgrading from potato to woody, using a 14-CD official set (7 binary, 7 source). I followed the instructions at this address: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/i386/release-notes/as recommended in the installation manual. I first went with the recommended approac

Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:39:06PM -0400, Hamid wrote: > Am I supposed to remove all files and links manually, 'cos Qt does not > have any make unintsall or make remove ? If you didn't make a debian package of it, yeah. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursida

Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:03:08PM -0400, Hamid wrote: > I removed and re-installed KDE3.1 with libqt-mt 3.1 but no difference. > Still I get the same error message: > > "libkdefx.so.4 : undefined symbol: _ZN6QStyle6polishEP12QApplication " This is l

Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Richard Hector
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:09:05AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 01:56:58PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > So a megabyte *is* 1048576 bytes, etc, and I don't think this usage is > > particularly likely to change. > > I know I'm not switching just because some industry marketroi

Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Richard Hector
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:21:45AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > I didn't say I liked it, I just pointed out the "correct" usage. > > Actually, as R. Hector pointed out in this thread, it's not. I didn't say it was incorrect, I said it wasn't SI. It is (as far as I can see) an IEC standard.

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:43:59PM +0200, J?rgen A.Erhard wrote: > What I'm looking for is a way to tell a mail filtering tool how to > automatically sort mails from mailing lists. I use, in order of preference, the List-id, X-Mailing-List, or on a br

How to reconfigure network settings easily?

2003-06-04 Thread Jon Ramsey
Hi, I'm running a testing/unstable system on a new machine for home. I set up the machine at work with a static ip, gateway and dns for our work network. I've now moved the machine home and I just got cable broadband so I need to change the network settings to use dhcp - whats the best way to make

USB 2 drive enclosure recommendations/warnings?

2003-06-04 Thread Todd Pytel
I'm looking to pick up a USB hard drive enclosure for backup purposes, and was wondering if there were any success/failure stories I should be aware of. I need an enclosure (not an external drive) because I'll also be backing up (via network) some OpenBSD machines, which don't support USB 2 - so t

Re: kdm init files and xmodmap

2003-06-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 11:18:56AM -0200, Tal Eisenberg wrote: > I realize that I'm again "stealing" the thread... I just wanted to say > that I really had no intention of doing that (How does the list server > know i replied if I changed the subject?). Mail clients insert one or both of "In-Reply

Re: a problem when use 'apt-get install' command install 'mysql-server', help !!

2003-06-04 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:10:41AM +0800, Jojo wrote: > I had got a 'apt-install error' problem when I used command: > "apt-get -u install mysql-server mysql-client" Just install the mysql-server. It'll add the client for you automatically. At a minimum start with just the server and t

Re: modem compatibilty

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 03:27:04PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > You shouldn't need to do anything special. Just plug it it in place of the > other one and it will probably work fine. Most (unfortunately not all, but > most) external modems are fully i

ALSA/SBLive problem

2003-06-04 Thread Tom Schutter
I am having problems setting up ALSA on my Debian box. When I try to play an OGG file using XMMS, XMMS hangs. When I try to play an OGG file using alsaplayer, I get no sound, and alsaplayer moves through the song at 30x. The soundcard is builtin on a Dell Dimension 4550, but it is advertised as

Re: modem compatibilty

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 08:17:03PM +0100, john gennard wrote: > The modem is an external one made by (?for) Microcomputer All external modems automatically work if your serial ports do. What kind of problems are you having? - -- .''`. Baloo Ur

Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:21:57PM -0400, Kevin McKinley wrote: > > Human language isn't amenable to standardisation. In common usage, > > kilo, mega etc. in the computer context refer to the power of 2 which > > is closest to the power of 10 to which

Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 01:56:58PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > So a megabyte *is* 1048576 bytes, etc, and I don't think this usage is > particularly likely to change. I know I'm not switching just because some industry marketroids think they can bastardize

Re: Gnome2.2 Window Manager

2003-06-04 Thread Ross Burton
On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 03:58, Hamid wrote: > Hi > I am using ICE Windoe Manager and I am not very happy with it. > What is the default window manager for Gnome2.2 ? The official GNOME 2.2 window manager is Metacity. Sawfish will work fine, and is better if you prefer total control over the window

Re: DNS Forwarder

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 10:38:01AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How can I set up an DNS forwarder, that uses an special DNS server to > resolve the domain "foo.org", and an other server to resolve all other > requests ? Set up a master zone with

libxml-sax-writer-perl does not utf-8 encode!

2003-06-04 Thread Thomas Gebhardt
Hi, after installing a few new packages (sorry, cannot exactly figure out, which dependencies where resolved and installed by apt) on my sarge system, I encountered problems with utf-8 encoding and perl/xml. It seems like a bug to me, but since I'm rather new to perl/xml programming I won't send a

Re: gcc 3.3 in unstable/testing

2003-06-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 08:09:43AM +0100, James Stone wrote: > Just a quick question: why is the default gcc 3.3 in unstable/testing > when the only one that seems to work for compiling stuff (at least on > my system) is gcc 3.2.3? Works fine for me, although we're having to fix up a few Debian pa

DNS Forwarder

2003-06-04 Thread tobi
How can I set up an DNS forwarder, that uses an special DNS server to resolve the domain "foo.org", and an other server to resolve all other requests ? I do not want to set up a slave zone to "foo.org", because "foo.org" doesn´t allow zone transfers. Is there a way to do this ? Regards Tobi

Re: kdm init files and xmodmap

2003-06-04 Thread Tal Eisenberg
I realize that I'm again "stealing" the thread... I just wanted to say that I really had no intention of doing that (How does the list server know i replied if I changed the subject?). Anyways, sorry for the inconvinience I will post my question again on a new thread. Thanks for pointing that o

Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Mark C
Next time, if you wish to use beta software or mess around, create a directory called say /opt/kde3 and /opt/kde3/qt3 or even $HOME/kde3 or $HOME/qt3 or whatever.. Give only youre user (i.e not root) complete access, and then install into there, i.e: # ./configure --prefix=/opt/kde3 blah!..blah!

Re: Gnome2.2 Window Manager

2003-06-04 Thread Mark C
> Hi > I am using ICE Windoe Manager and I am not very happy with it. > What is the default window manager for Gnome2.2 ? KDE ;) Seriously, it depends, AFAIK know on debian its sawfish, but you can change this to metacity (as this is AFAIK the gnome specified default). metacity seems faster, bu

Re: Very slow nfs client (woody) > server (woody)

2003-06-04 Thread Mark C
Bob Proulx wrote: > What does your /etc/exports on your server say? Does it say 'sync' or > 'async' for export options? At the top of my head I cannor remeber, will check it out, but personally, It feels like a client issue, as RedHat on the client works great. > Just as an aside you might chec

gcc 3.3 in unstable/testing

2003-06-04 Thread James Stone
Just a quick question: why is the default gcc 3.3 in unstable/testing when the only one that seems to work for compiling stuff (at least on my system) is gcc 3.2.3? James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Local copy of mails in IMAP folder?

2003-06-04 Thread Joerg Johannes
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 16:32, Dan Dofton wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 12:36:52 +0200 > > Joerg Johannes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there a way to get a local copy of those mails, so that I > > can read them weh I'm offline, too (and archive them on a backup > > CD)? > > I use fetchmail to du

Re: Local copy of mails in IMAP folder?

2003-06-04 Thread Joerg Johannes
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 16:03, Joao Pedro Clemente wrote: > > > Joerg Johannes wrote: > > > > I use kmail/IMAP protocol to read mails for one of my accounts. > > > > Today I recognized that I can only read the mails when I am > > > > connected to the net. I see the folder contents, but the > > > >

Re: xdm starting, but not configured

2003-06-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:30:13AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 00:05, Travis Crump wrote: > > Kevin Mark wrote: > > > There are different runlevels: > > > 6 is reboot > > > 5 is run X and networking > > > 3 is run networking > > > 2 is single user mode > > > so: > > > linux 3 >

Re: xdm starting, but not configured

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 02:30, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 00:05, Travis Crump wrote: > > Kevin Mark wrote: > > > There are different runlevels: > > > 6 is reboot > > > 5 is run X and networking > > > 3 is run networking > > > 2 is single user mode > > > so: > > > linux 3 > > > is what

Re: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid?

2003-06-04 Thread kevin
I have fixed the problem I deleted crond.pid and it now works Thanks all Kevin - Original Message - From: "Bill Marcum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 6:08 PM Subject: Re: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid? > On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 01:30:16 +0200, k

Re: can't access machine after upgrade !

2003-06-04 Thread Sharninder Singh-662
the module is being loaded because i can use access the other machines on network from this machine and so ifconfig and route also don't show anything as such. i saw the ifconfig output and it's fine. will check the output of route and let u know later..tell me one thing is it possible that route l

Veritas NetBackup

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Matuszewski
Hi all, Was wondering if anyone has ever used the 'server' of Veritas Netbackup on a Debian installation? It says it supports redhat out of the box, and I'm wondering if it will support debian with a few modifications. It seems as if it will. -Paul --- Paul Matuszewski S

Re: xdm starting, but not configured

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 00:05, Travis Crump wrote: > Kevin Mark wrote: > > There are different runlevels: > > 6 is reboot > > 5 is run X and networking > > 3 is run networking > > 2 is single user mode > > so: > > linux 3 > > is what I would say. Then you can type 'startx' > > This is a Debian list

Re: can't access machine after upgrade !

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 00:16, Sharninder Singh-662 wrote: > hi, > i had a debian stable machine running since the last one year or so since > woody had been released. but last week i decided to upgrade it to testing > and that was the worst decision IMO. after the upgrade i could'nt boot into > the

Re: mutt "can't lock"

2003-06-04 Thread Nathan Poznick
Thus spake Emma Jane Hogbin: > I've got most of my important things configured now. > But I'm having a weird problem with mutt. When I try to save an email > to an existing directory it says: > Couldn't lock /home/emmajane/Mail/IN-mbox? > If I open up mutt as root and read through my mail I

mutt "can't lock"

2003-06-04 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
I've got most of my important things configured now. But I'm having a weird problem with mutt. When I try to save an email to an existing directory it says: Couldn't lock /home/emmajane/Mail/IN-mbox? If I open up mutt as root and read through my mail I can save to folders. Any ideas what

Re: PPPOE / ADSL fails

2003-06-04 Thread Yuhanes Tjandra
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 03:02:30PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi All, > > What package contains 'adsl-start'? I couldn't find it... It is pppoe. It is altered a bit. As far as I remember (have to use dialup again :( ) you can either fire it up during the booting or use the command "pppd cal

Re: ergonomic laptop keyboard?

2003-06-04 Thread Brian Walker
Nori Heikkinen wrote: hello geeks, i'm about to begin work at a new job. the shop is really chill, to such a degree that everyone hangs out on couches and beanbag chairs and works on laptops. this is awesome, but for one factor -- i can't type on a laptop for longer than about 20 minutes witho

Re: Very slow nfs client (woody) > server (woody)

2003-06-04 Thread Bob Proulx
Mark C wrote: > I have woody running perfectly, yet it takes an age to read/write any > files from my nfs server, where as redhat is (for nfs clients anyway) > blistering fast, > > Heres my current mount arguments in /etc/fstab: > loki:/nfs-exports/tmp /pub/tmp nfs nfsvers=2,rsize=4096,wsize=4096

debian install without floppy or CD

2003-06-04 Thread Sharninder Singh-662
is there any way for me to install debian on my machine here without a CD drive and a floppy drive..ie. totally off the network .. at the max. i can only get the ISOs on my machine or some other machine ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: ergonomic laptop keyboard?

2003-06-04 Thread Kent West
Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 13:08, Nori Heikkinen wrote: I would love to see a normal laptop, never in a million years. its form factor doesnt allow it. but with a keyboard whose two halves could pop up in the middle, and then rotate inwards to whatever degree the user want

can't access machine after upgrade !

2003-06-04 Thread Sharninder Singh-662
hi, i had a debian stable machine running since the last one year or so since woody had been released. but last week i decided to upgrade it to testing and that was the worst decision IMO. after the upgrade i could'nt boot into the machine because of some lilo error. which is fine now after i playe

Re: xdm starting, but not configured

2003-06-04 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
> On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 04:04:47PM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: >> Pigeon wrote: >> > Don't forget Ctrl-Alt-F[1..6] to get from your garbled X screen to a >> > console. >> >> Tried that, no dice. So i re-installed. I'm so impatient, eh? > > Ack, my apologies - I should have mentioned that there

Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rdDebian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 23:43, Hamid wrote: > Yes I do, I have to do some manual removals :( > > Kevin Mark wrote: > > >On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 19:03, Hamid wrote: > > > > > >>Hi > >>I guess it should be nomral to format your hard disk for the 3rd time if > >>you are a newbie to Debian. > >>The la

Re: xdm starting, but not configured

2003-06-04 Thread Travis Crump
Kevin Mark wrote: There are different runlevels: 6 is reboot 5 is run X and networking 3 is run networking 2 is single user mode so: linux 3 is what I would say. Then you can type 'startx' This is a Debian list, not Red Hat. Runlevels 2-5 are identical by default. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: kdm init files and xmodmap

2003-06-04 Thread Bob Proulx
Please do not steal the thread by just replying to a conversation in mid-stride. Replying to an existing thread of conversation and just changing the subject line is called thread stealing. It's considered rude. If you want to start a new thread of conversation please just start a new email mess

Re: Gnome2.2 Window Manager

2003-06-04 Thread Igor Stroh
Hi, On Mit, 2003-06-04 at 04:58, Hamid wrote: > I am using ICE Windoe Manager and I am not very happy with it. > What is the default window manager for Gnome2.2 ? Metacity. cheers, Igor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROT

Re: xdm starting, but not configured

2003-06-04 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 22:01, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 14:11, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > > Is there a way to boot into a "safe-mode" instead of having xdm start? I > > didn't configure it properly. When it starts up I get a totally useless > > screen of junk. I need a way to boot the

Re: Gnome2.2 Window Manager

2003-06-04 Thread jqdkf
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:58:01PM -0400, Hamid wrote: > Hi > I am using ICE Windoe Manager and I am not very happy with it. > What is the default window manager for Gnome2.2 ? > Thanks > Hamid > sawfish -- Zeng Nan Simple is Beautiful. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Hamid
Thanks, I have to give it a try Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:39:06PM -0400, Hamid wrote: Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:03:08PM -0400, Hamid wrote: I removed and re-installed KDE3.1 with libqt-mt 3.1 but no difference. Did you com

Re: xdm starting, but not configured

2003-06-04 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 04:04:47PM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > Pigeon wrote: > > Don't forget Ctrl-Alt-F[1..6] to get from your garbled X screen to a > > console. > > Tried that, no dice. So i re-installed. I'm so impatient, eh? Ack, my apologies - I should have mentioned that there's a shel

Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Hamid
Yes I do, I have to do some manual removals :( Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 19:03, Hamid wrote: Hi I guess it should be nomral to format your hard disk for the 3rd time if you are a newbie to Debian. The last BAD thing I have done is: I compiled and installed the new Qt (3.2beta1)

Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debianinstallation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 19:03, Hamid wrote: > Hi > I guess it should be nomral to format your hard disk for the 3rd time if > you are a newbie to Debian. > The last BAD thing I have done is: > I compiled and installed the new Qt (3.2beta1) and guess what ? KDE does > not work any more. > I removed

ASUS P4B533

2003-06-04 Thread Bleckie
Hello to all,   I do have a hardware issue: I would like to use the ASUS P4B533 including the 5.25 " IPanel Multimedia front module extension under Debian. Does anybody have experience on how to setup and configure this module?     I appreciate your comprehensive answer very much!   Regards,

Re: Sending messages to tty1 after xdm exits

2003-06-04 Thread Bill Marcum
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 19:50:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm using xdm for logging in to my laptop. I wanted to be able to > shutdown so I added buttons to the xdm logging screen[1]. > > When the shutdown button is clicked this command is run: > > exec /sbin/shutd

Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:39:06PM -0400, Hamid wrote: > Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:03:08PM -0400, Hamid wrote: > > > > > I removed and re-installed KDE3.1 with libqt-mt 3.1 but no > > > difference. > > > > Did you completely remove the 3.2beta1 installation? > > Am I su

Re: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid?

2003-06-04 Thread Bill Marcum
On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 01:30:16 +0200, kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How do I fix this cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid? > Does the file /var/run/crond.pid exist? Can you, as root, create files in /var/run? Is it possible that /var is out of space or is not mounted (if you have

Gnome2.2 Window Manager

2003-06-04 Thread Hamid
Hi I am using ICE Windoe Manager and I am not very happy with it. What is the default window manager for Gnome2.2 ? Thanks Hamid -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ -

Re: About to format the hard drive for the 3rd Debian installation-helpppp

2003-06-04 Thread Hamid
Am I supposed to remove all files and links manually, 'cos Qt does not have any make unintsall or make remove ? Thanks Hamid Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:03:08PM -0400, Hamid wrote: The last BAD thing I have done is: I compiled and installed the new Qt (3.2beta1) and gue

Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:56:58 +0100 Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually the term for 1024^3 bytes is mebibyte, and 1024 of them is a > > gibibyte: > > Gibidigibidibigigidigibigidibigidibibigibi > > Human language isn't amenable to standardisation. In common usage, > kilo, mega etc.

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi, I was parsing my last 4000 emails and these were some headers with the word 'list': 1 X-List-Processor 1 X-sparklist-type 2 X-List-Unsubscribe 2 X-Mailinglist 4 list-help 4 list-post 4 list-unsubscribe 7 X-List-Administrivia 15 Mailing-List

Re: ergonomic laptop keyboard?

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 13:08, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > I would love to see a normal laptop, never in a million years. its form factor doesnt allow it. > but with a keyboard > whose two halves could pop up in the middle, and then rotate inwards > to whatever degree the user wanted, kind of like [1

Re: xdm starting, but not configured

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 14:11, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > Is there a way to boot into a "safe-mode" instead of having xdm start? I > didn't configure it properly. When it starts up I get a totally useless > screen of junk. I need a way to boot the computer to the prompt instead of > having xdm start.

Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burn it ?

2003-06-04 Thread Richard Hector
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:47:12PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:55:33PM -0400, Kevin McKinley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > Actually the term for 1024^3 bytes is mebibyte, and 1024 of them is a > > gibibyte: > > > > http://kerneltrap.com/node.php?id=340&PHPSESSI

python weaver error

2003-06-04 Thread Alfredo Valles
Hi people. I tried to install de weaver module for python from www.scipy.org. With this module you can execute c++ code in python at c speed. Anyway, it didn't work in my debian unstable. Is someone with experience with this module around? Alfredo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: PPPOE / ADSL fails

2003-06-04 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 22:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi All, > > What package contains 'adsl-start'? I couldn't find it... I think it's part of the pppoe or pptp source (not the debian package. I don't know why but it was taken out). just google for it. Bye > > I too can't connect with my n

Re: Gnome 2 vs. KDE

2003-06-04 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 16:07, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: > I am running Woody, and loading some packages I want from backports I've > found on the web. > > It seems that installing the Gnome 2 backport removes my KDE desktop. > I've even found a KDE 3.1 site, but the Gnome 2 install threatens to

odd `ps` behavior

2003-06-04 Thread Patrick Wiseman
Whenever one of the basic utilities behaves weirdly, I worry I may have been hacked, but this is on a 2-day old Debian install: ~$ ps {module_list} {module_list_R__ver_module_list} Warning: /boot/System.map-2.2.20-compact does not match kernel data. I've made no kernel changes on that system. An

Re: Gnome 2 vs. KDE

2003-06-04 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Brian Gonzales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030604 02:08]: > Damn, I thought this was going to be a Gnome v. KDE religous war thread. :) Why don't you start one? ;) Sincerely Alexander pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

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