Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:18:47PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:40:36AM -0600, DvB wrote: > > Once again, if cutting taxes is going to put the government $300B in the > > hole, they need to cut some programs and I don't think there're many > > that can be justified being

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:08:17PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: > Haha, wow. I would love to see one of those on Cape Cod, where a > single, normal "rotary" can back up traffic all the way to Boston > (because most Americans can't figure out how to drive in a circle, > apparently). I always hated g

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:41:01AM +, Pigeon wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 02:37:53PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > Pigeon writes: > > > It would be under tension, because the upper station is outside the > > > geosynchronous orbit. So the bit above the break would fly off into > > > space,

Re: passwordless ssh login not working

2003-02-07 Thread sean finney
heya, are you sure your sshd_config is configured to allow PubkeyAuthentication? sean On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:03:22AM +, Pigeon wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up ssh to enable passwordless logins from > 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.2. I have used ssh-keygen to generate key > pai

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:51:25AM -0600, DvB wrote: > Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > DvB wrote: > > > > >Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > >> Yeah, after all it's not their money .. they just worked hard to earn > > >> it. > > >> > > > > > > > > >You don't "wor

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:28:36AM -0600, DvB wrote: > Nobody who uses a car pays the full cost of their mode of > transportation. Nobody has ever suggested turning road building and > maintenance over to a private company that would, in turn, put toll > booths all over the place. There'd probably

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread DvB
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:24:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > How much are the city/state/feds subsidizing TriMet? > > Right now, about half. Normally, nearly nothing or less. TriMet only > goes net-loss and extra subsidy when it's building new rail

OT : Off-Topic Threads

2003-02-07 Thread Kent West
I'm all for the occassional off-topic thread. They're fascinating as small diversions. And it's only natural for us humans to wander off every once in a while on a tangent. I think it's healthy, even for a list like Debian-User that is theoretically supposed to be about Debian. But please, folk

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 08:16:31PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 05:46:12PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote: > > Where the hell do you think the money came from? If an investor can't > > expect a return, why should he put himself at risk? > > It's basically gambling picking a stoc

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:22:33AM -0600, DvB wrote: > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:34:51PM -0600, DvB wrote: > > > "James Buchanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > Famine victims OK, but nobody has mentioned the people living in > > > > p

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:40:36AM -0600, DvB wrote: > Once again, if cutting taxes is going to put the government $300B in the > hole, they need to cut some programs and I don't think there're many > that can be justified being cut. Considering the military accounts for over 40% of government sp

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread DvB
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:57:40AM -0600, DvB wrote: > > The biggest problem with spamcop, and reporting spam in general, IMO, > > is that you have to open the message in order to do so. Many spammers > > nowdays have little notification mechanisms embedd

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread DvB
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 12:19:05PM -0600, DvB wrote: > > Just disable HTML rendering completely. All you need is the headers and, > > besides, anybody who sends you HTML formatted mail (unless it's your > > boss) probably isn't worth listening to anyway ;

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread DvB
Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 03:34:47PM -0600, DvB wrote: > > Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The American writer Bill Bryson comments that he cannot understand the > > > British obsession with cars given that there is not a single aspect of > > > driving

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Brian Nelson
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:56:59PM +, Pigeon wrote: >> There's the "New Town", Milton Keynes, which is totally designed >> around the car. It is _huge_ (by British standards). It is possible to >> get from one side to the other in about the same time

Re:2 apt questions

2003-02-07 Thread Petr Simon
To use apt locally check this: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-dpkg-scanpackages Cheers Petr Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: KDE 3.1 in sid

2003-02-07 Thread Brian Nelson
Brian McGroarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 12:39:16AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 03:54:31PM +0800, Arne Goetje wrote: >> > > Btw, is kde3.1 already in sid? I thought when I did my upgrade kde >> > > would be upgraded, but nothing happend... >>

Re: KDE 3.1 in sid

2003-02-07 Thread Brian Nelson
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:43:03AM +0100, Tom Verbreyt wrote: >> Paul Johnson sagte: >> > You might consider switching back, as they really are putting KDE >> > 3.1 in sid, just waiting on dependancies to work thier way down now. >> >> Now how do you peo

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread DvB
Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > DvB wrote: > > >Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Yeah, after all it's not their money .. they just worked hard to earn > >> it. > >> > > > > > >You don't "work hard" for stock dividends. You just put your money in > >stocks and they co

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread DvB
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 17:01, DvB wrote: > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It seems as if there's a lot of (US) Americans on the list who think > > > that Federal projects are a very good way to solve many/most of > > > society's ills, and

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread DvB
Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > DvB wrote: > > >Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 03:59, James Buchanan wrote: > >> > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:34:51PM -0600, DvB wrote: > >> > > > "James Buchanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Once > >

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:55:06PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > Ummm, somehow I don't think that when W was inaugurated, he was planning > on having these new burdens placed on the Federal budget... Yeah, but that only accounts for the Afghan War last year, and *possibly* North Korea. Iraq is his

Re: DSL connecting using a USB modem

2003-02-07 Thread Sam Varghese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:20:46AM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson spake thus: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 03:51:17PM +1100, Sam Varghese wrote: > | On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 06:07:03PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson spake thus: > | > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 08

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:24:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > How much are the city/state/feds subsidizing TriMet? Right now, about half. Normally, nearly nothing or less. TriMet only goes net-loss and extra subsidy when it's building new rail lines, but usually makes headway for a year after t

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 22:16, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 05:46:12PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote: > > Where the hell do you think the money came from? If an investor can't > > expect a return, why should he put himself at risk? > > It's basically gambling picking a stock that'll las

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 22:20, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:52:57PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > eg. Actually, all goods and services come from the government...Try > > > producing your own goods and services. > > > > Maybe I'm missing something, but what are you talking abou

Re: Howto set up a local apt - repository ?

2003-02-07 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:42:18AM +0100, mi wrote: > Hello all. > > I asked a friend to ftp and burn down openoffice for woody from > deb ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/linux/packages/openoffice-debian woody main > contrib > > - the only 'url' i knew. I wasn't sure what exactly is needed, though. > N

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:41:01AM +, Pigeon wrote: > Unless I'm totally screwed up I don't think this is right... > everything below the geosynchronous orbit is orbiting too slowly to > stay up on its own, everything above the geosynchronous orbit is > orbiting too fast to not fly off unless a

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 22:38, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:12:36PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Only anarchists believe that government should not exist, and American > > conservatives & libertarians are most emphatically *not* anarchists. > > They more or less believe in a limi

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 04:08:39PM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > Well, only if it gets it right. I get messages from spamcop on a > regular basis complaining that I'm running an open relay, when in fact > what is happening is that a user has a .forward and the mail server is > forwarding his m

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:15:40AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > SpamCop is a rather arbitrarily-run service that has received a lot of > criticism for blocking whole IP ranges, thereby blocking tons of legit > mail in the name of blocking a spammer or two who might also inhabit > that IP range.

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 12:19:05PM -0600, DvB wrote: > Just disable HTML rendering completely. All you need is the headers and, > besides, anybody who sends you HTML formatted mail (unless it's your > boss) probably isn't worth listening to anyway ;-) No, you need the full message. Abuse desks an

RE: fstab/mount filesystem nomenclature

2003-02-07 Thread David Turetsky
Great. fdisk -l /dev/hde gives me /dev/hde1 * ... /dev/hde2 ... /dev/hde5 ... /hde2 and /hde5 give the same starting and ending blocks, so I assume hde5 is the logical partition and hde2 is the extended partition fdisk -l /dev/hdf gives me /hdf1 and hdf2 Problem: Neither ls /f (ass

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:57:40AM -0600, DvB wrote: > The biggest problem with spamcop, and reporting spam in general, IMO, > is that you have to open the message in order to do so. Many spammers > nowdays have little notification mechanisms embedded in the HTML of > their messages which sends an

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 22:33, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 05:41:45PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote: > > Now, just exactly why should someone risk their capital to provide you a > > service without expecting a positive return? It looks like what you > > really want is for someone else t

Re: DSL connecting using a USB modem

2003-02-07 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 03:51:17PM +1100, Sam Varghese wrote: | On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 06:07:03PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson spake thus: | > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 08:11:51AM +1100, Sam Varghese wrote: | > | i've been trying to find some app which would let me connect to the net | > | with an u

apt-proxy backup question

2003-02-07 Thread Richard Hector
Hi all, Is /var/cache/apt-proxy self contained? If I back up that directory, together with /etc/apt-proxy, can I then just reinstall apt-proxy and unpack those 2 to be back where I was? Or are there some indexes or something hidden away? Many thanks, Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

passwordless ssh login not working

2003-02-07 Thread Pigeon
Hi, I'm trying to set up ssh to enable passwordless logins from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.2. I have used ssh-keygen to generate key pairs for root on 192.168.1.1 and copied the .pub files into /root/.ssh/authorized_keys. According to man ssh, as I understand it, this should be enough to get passwor

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 03:34:47PM -0600, DvB wrote: > Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Trouble is British cities, at least, seem to be playing catchup with > > American ones. Everything is designed on the assumption that everyone > > has a car and will use it for everything. New shopping cen

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 02:37:53PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Pigeon writes: > > It would be under tension, because the upper station is outside the > > geosynchronous orbit. So the bit above the break would fly off into > > space, and the lower bit would fall back. > > The tension would taper fr

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:31:15PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:56:59PM +, Pigeon wrote: > > There's the "New Town", Milton Keynes, which is totally designed > > around the car. It is _huge_ (by British standards). It is possible to > > get from one side to the other

Re: modem / pon / serial problems

2003-02-07 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 06:19:36PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > Install DNS caching software on the gateway (the modem box). Have all > internal machines use the gateway as their nameserver (use a static > resolv.conf). You can use BIND as a caching only nameserver, and of > course there are o

Re: Fetchmail bounces

2003-02-07 Thread Jsen
* Shyamal Prasad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > "Jsen" == drunkenhate writes: > > Jsen> Hi all, everytime emails comes in, fetchmail would "reply" > Jsen> back to it's senders, currently I added "set no bouncemail" > Jsen> to my .fetchmailrc, thus flooding my system with this >

Re: KDE 3.1 in sid

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 08:31:03PM +0330, Aryan Ameri wrote: > > For the umpteenth time, yes, I'm sure. This is really happening. > > Damn, folks, you bitch about how slow things take to update, then you > > don't believe it when it happens. > > I admit that's right ;-) > > maybe it's because we

Re: GTK, GTK2 Fonts

2003-02-07 Thread Kevin C. Smith
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 07:02:48PM -0500, Richard Beri wrote: > I am not having fun with fonts in GTK and GTK2. I installed gdm to > replace kdm, so now ~/.gtkrc-kde has no control over the gtk1 fonts > (which it did a nice job of). For some reason gdm wants to always use > the ugly default fo

Re: KDE 3.1 in sid

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 08:18:55AM -0600, Brian McGroarty wrote: > Is there an automated process at work, or do you mean waiting on bug > reports from people who find things missing? Neither. It takes a while, especially when the developers have lives, to compile and package the world. -- .''`

Re: DSL connecting using a USB modem

2003-02-07 Thread Sam Varghese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 06:07:03PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson spake thus: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 08:11:51AM +1100, Sam Varghese wrote: > | i've been trying to find some app which would let me connect to the net > | with an usb dsl modem and have d

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:47:16PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > "Sorry dear Linux/FreeBSD/etc. user (or small country), we're blocking > out your patch of sky because you haven't paid your Microsoft tax." I'm suddenly reminded of all kinds of wisecracks about the cafeteria ceiling at my old high

Re: test

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:29:41PM -0500, Jason M. Harvey wrote: > test Does your email work? Do you see other people's posts to the list? OK, no need to test, don't waste everyone's time. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:12:36PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > Only anarchists believe that government should not exist, and American > conservatives & libertarians are most emphatically *not* anarchists. > They more or less believe in a limited Federal government. So when do they start practicing

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Travis Crump
Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 20:57, Gary Turner wrote: [snip] eg. Actually, all goods and services come from the government...Try producing your own goods and services. Maybe I'm missing something, but what are you talking about. People and corporations produce their own goods a

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 05:41:45PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote: > Now, just exactly why should someone risk their capital to provide you a > service without expecting a positive return? It looks like what you > really want is for someone else to pay for what you [want to] use. If > you're not willin

Re: phoenix hangs on ctrl-u

2003-02-07 Thread iain d broadfoot
* Emma Jane Hogbin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:19:37PM +, iain d broadfoot wrote: > > if it doesn't work, rename your .phoenix directory, and try again. > > That worked, thanks!! > > Any idea why this worked? must have been something silly in your preferences some

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:52:57PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > eg. Actually, all goods and services come from the government...Try > > producing your own goods and services. > > Maybe I'm missing something, but what are you talking about. People > and corporations produce their own goods and s

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 05:46:12PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote: > Where the hell do you think the money came from? If an investor can't > expect a return, why should he put himself at risk? It's basically gambling picking a stock that'll last long enough and perform well enough to create dividends.

Re: phoenix hangs on ctrl-u

2003-02-07 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:19:37PM +, iain d broadfoot wrote: > if it doesn't work, rename your .phoenix directory, and try again. That worked, thanks!! Any idea why this worked? emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: pppconfig error??

2003-02-07 Thread John Hasler
> I am getting this error while trying to run pppconfig. What version of pppconfig on what Debian release? 'pppconfig --version' will tell you the pppconfig version. > I even went as far to install gettext... No need. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: apt- and dselect

2003-02-07 Thread Kent West
alex wrote: I haven't been able to get apt- and dselect to finish the 'update' phase when I try to download and install packages from the sites recommended for deb packages but they work ok when they're used with Debian CD's. I don't think it is a modem problem because email and web browsing wor

Re: fstab entry for NTFS formatted drive

2003-02-07 Thread Kent West
Sergey A. Ovchar wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:14:17 -0500 "David Turetsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OTOH read-only seems very stable. My "solution" when I must have a ^- what's it OTOH On The Other Hand. Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:56:59PM +, Pigeon wrote: > Trouble is British cities, at least, seem to be playing catchup with > American ones. Everything is designed on the assumption that everyone > has a car and will use it for everything. New shopping centres are > built outside the town, so it

RE: fstab entry for NTFS formatted drive

2003-02-07 Thread David Turetsky
On The Other Hand -- David -Original Message- From: Sergey A. Ovchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: fstab entry for NTFS formatted drive On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:14:17 -0500 "David Turetsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 20:57, Gary Turner wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote: > > >Gary Turner wrote: > > > >>DvB wrote: > >> > >>>Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> > >> [snip] > eg. Actually, all goods and services come from the government...Try > producing your own goods and services.

test

2003-02-07 Thread Jason M. Harvey
test -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dpkg inconsistency

2003-02-07 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:35:49AM +0100, Florian Sukup wrote: > Hi, > > I've done a really stupid thing: > > I tried to install&compile some stuff for the kernel which failed. > > I made a dump before that, which I restored to make my system running > again. > > But I forgot to dump & restore

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 19:23, Paul E Condon wrote: > Gary Turner wrote: > > >DvB wrote: > > > > > > > >>Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] > > > >Where the hell do you think the money came from? If an investor can't > > > Actually, all money comes from the government, and the gov

makefile problem

2003-02-07 Thread David Wright
Can anyone help me out with the a makefile problem? I have a large number of subdirectories filled with simple sample programs. I want to do the following for each subdirectory { cd subdirectory if Makefile exists { make } else { for each .c file { $(CC)

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 17:01, DvB wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 03:59, James Buchanan wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:34:51PM -0600, DvB wrote: > > > > > "James Buchanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > > > > Famine victims OK, bu

Howto set up a local apt - repository ?

2003-02-07 Thread mi
Hello all. I asked a friend to ftp and burn down openoffice for woody from deb ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/linux/packages/openoffice-debian woody main contrib - the only 'url' i knew. I wasn't sure what exactly is needed, though. Now i've got a cd here with the following: Two Packages-files located

Mencoder

2003-02-07 Thread Sergey A. Ovchar
Hi. I'm recently encoded from VideoCD's(2cd) to divx, using command: mencoder -vcd 2 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4 -oac copy -o bla-bla-bla.avi I know - it was my mistake about -oac (at that moment I didn't have lame). When I trying play theese files under M$98 platform, it says "I can't load

Re: fstab entry for NTFS formatted drive

2003-02-07 Thread Sergey A. Ovchar
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:14:17 -0500 "David Turetsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >OTOH read-only seems very stable. My "solution" when I must have a ^- what's it OTOH -- ,''`. Sincerely yours : :' : Sergey A. Ovchar `. `' e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Gary Turner
Paul E Condon wrote: >Gary Turner wrote: > >>DvB wrote: >> >>>Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> >> >> Yeah, after all it's not their money .. they just worked hard to earn it. >>>You don't "work hard" for stock dividends. You just put your money in >>>stocks and they com

sndfile.pc ?

2003-02-07 Thread stan
Sigh, I'm still fighting the battle of trying to compile Ardour (why hasn't someone done a deb of this). In any case, I manged to get autogen.sh to run, only to have configure fail looking for a file called sndfile.pc. It seems to be searching for this with /usr/bin/pkg-config. Anyone habe any cl

Digital video-to-disk software

2003-02-07 Thread tjm3
Hello. What are the recommendations for capturing video from my camcorder to some file and then be able to convert it to a format, either on cdrom or dvd, to play on a computer or a dvd player. I would like to be able to work with both formats. I already have a working BT878 TV card. thanks, --

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Gary Turner
Paul E Condon wrote: >Gary Turner wrote: > >>John Hasler wrote: >> >>>Pigeon writes: >>> It would be under tension, because the upper station is outside the geosynchronous orbit. So the bit above the break would fly off into space, and the lower bit would fall back. >>>The ten

pppconfig error??

2003-02-07 Thread fbrian
Hi all: I am getting this error while trying to run pppconfig. EULER:~# pppconfig Internal error at /usr/sbin/pppconfig line 157. EULER:~# Line 157 is... die(gettext("Internal error ")) unless($result == 0 || $result == 1); I even went as far to install gettext even though the comments at th

apt- and dselect

2003-02-07 Thread alex
I haven't been able to get apt- and dselect to finish the 'update' phase when I try to download and install packages from the sites recommended for deb packages but they work ok when they're used with Debian CD's. I don't think it is a modem problem because email and web browsing work fine on Debi

Re: OT: Plagiarism Monitor S/W

2003-02-07 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:34:31PM -0500, David Z Maze wrote: > So, having had some experience doing this: your class has TA's, right? > And they review the things students turn in? When I've been a TA, > this has caught the more gratuitous cases of cheating; having a class > policy that code shar

Xawtv - not working :(

2003-02-07 Thread Elijah
Hi, Used to work once actually, I only got one channel but no sound, the next reboot and it's gone... How do I configure this thing? I already have 'tuner' 'bttv' 'videodev' 'i2c-core/algo-bit' 'tvaudio' running. I do 'scantv' and no channels are found :( my tv works for ntsc and probably us-br

Re: A few very simple Evolution questions...

2003-02-07 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 00:22, Davor Balder wrote: > When I start-up Evolution from the console, it gives message that locale > is not supported by C library. Is this important? > > Also, I noticed that when I am typing up an email (like now for > example), the font is very small and I cannot incre

Re: ogg to mp3 audio (also via 8233a question)

2003-02-07 Thread Jack Pistachio
What I meant here is the following: cd/wav -> ogg/mp3 is lossy ogg/mp3 -> wav isn't lossy hence, cd/wav -> ogg -> wav -> mp3 has two lossy transitions, not three. To clarify, going from ogg to wav certainly doesn't bring back the original exact audio, but produces the audio exactly as described in

Re: ogg to mp3 audio (also via 8233a question)

2003-02-07 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:04:30 -0800 Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:28:53 -0800 (PST) > > Jack Pistachio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Encoding to either ogg or mp3 is lossy, but when converting > > > back to wav the information in the mp3 or

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Paul E Condon
Gary Turner wrote: John Hasler wrote: Pigeon writes: It would be under tension, because the upper station is outside the geosynchronous orbit. So the bit above the break would fly off into space, and the lower bit would fall back. The tension would taper from nominally zero at the

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Paul E Condon
Gary Turner wrote: DvB wrote: Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Yeah, after all it's not their money .. they just worked hard to earn it. You don't "work hard" for stock dividends. You just put your money in stocks and they come all by themselves... although I guess

Re: Network Printer Offline?

2003-02-07 Thread Donald Spoon
Thomas H. George,,, wrote: Main computer is Debian Woody, 2.4.18 kernel connected through a Linksys Wireless Point Router to a DSL modem. Printer is HP Deskjet 940c installed with CUPS. KDE System print manager says its URI is ipp://Phoenix:631/printers/lp. (Phoenix has nothing to do with so

Re: ogg to mp3 audio (also via 8233a question)

2003-02-07 Thread Craig Dickson
Steve Lamb wrote: > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:28:53 -0800 (PST) > Jack Pistachio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Encoding to either ogg or mp3 is lossy, but when converting > > back to wav the information in the mp3 or ogg audio should > > be retained completely. > > Erm, no. These two statemen

Re: Fetchmail bounces

2003-02-07 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Jsen" == drunkenhate writes: Jsen> Hi all, everytime emails comes in, fetchmail would "reply" Jsen> back to it's senders, currently I added "set no bouncemail" Jsen> to my .fetchmailrc, thus flooding my system with this Jsen> bounces. Jsen> Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost

Re: shuttle disaster (space elevators)

2003-02-07 Thread John Hasler
Gary Turner writes: > If a low mass ribbon were used, wouldn't terminal velocity due to drag be > too low have much negative effect? Probably true of the lower portion, but maybe not of the upper, depending on materials and design. It seems to me, though, that the cable could be made to have arbi

Re: ogg to mp3 audio (also via 8233a question)

2003-02-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 04:32:10PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:28:53 -0800 (PST) > Jack Pistachio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Encoding to either ogg or mp3 is lossy, but when converting > > back to wav the information in the mp3 or ogg audio should > > be retained completely

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 02:50:44PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I know this is off-topic but since joining this list I'm getting > increasing levels of Spam. I've heard that using SpamCop.net to process and > report spam can help. Is this true? Is it worth bothering with? Yes, but I think

A few very simple Evolution questions...

2003-02-07 Thread Davor Balder
Hi all, When I start-up Evolution from the console, it gives message that locale is not supported by C library. Is this important? Also, I noticed that when I am typing up an email (like now for example), the font is very small and I cannot increase its size by using Ctrl-+. I can however incr

Re: Canon Powershot A40 support?

2003-02-07 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:39:05PM +, Colin Watson insinuated: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 04:51:43PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > on Fri, 07 Feb 2003 05:08:18PM +, Colin Watson insinuated: > > > Yes, you'd have to build it and libgphoto2 from source. I think > > > you could safely try whatev

Network Printer Offline?

2003-02-07 Thread Thomas H. George,,,
Main computer is Debian Woody, 2.4.18 kernel connected through a Linksys Wireless Point Router to a DSL modem. Printer is HP Deskjet 940c installed with CUPS. KDE System print manager says its URI is ipp://Phoenix:631/printers/lp. (Phoenix has nothing to do with software of that name; I name

Re: ogg to mp3 audio (also via 8233a question)

2003-02-07 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:28:53 -0800 (PST) Jack Pistachio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Encoding to either ogg or mp3 is lossy, but when converting > back to wav the information in the mp3 or ogg audio should > be retained completely. Erm, no. These two statements are mutually exclusive. The v

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread John Hasler
Gary Turner writes: > Actually, maximum tension occurs at the CG, with minimums at the ends. You're right, but it seems to me that the most economic design would place the CG near the counterweight. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: CRASHING HARD DRIVE

2003-02-07 Thread D.
--- Rick Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In linux.debian.user, you wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> I know that this has been discussed before so I > >> apologize for asking again. I believe that my > hard > >> drive is on its last leg. Can I do a quick and > dirty > >> bzip2 / and will th

GTK, GTK2 Fonts

2003-02-07 Thread Richard Beri
I am not having fun with fonts in GTK and GTK2. I installed gdm to replace kdm, so now ~/.gtkrc-kde has no control over the gtk1 fonts (which it did a nice job of). For some reason gdm wants to always use the ugly default font and I cannot change it, gnome-control-center run as root has no ef

Re: monitor locks up when exiting X

2003-02-07 Thread Elijah
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 15:34, Elijah wrote: > > > My monitor powers down (led turns yellow) whenever I ctl+alt+F* or from > ctl+alt+backspace and from rebooting or shutting down, I get no messages > from shutting down because my screen is black and the LED seems to > indicate that it turned itself

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Gary Turner
DvB wrote: >Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Yeah, after all it's not their money .. they just worked hard to earn >> it. >> > > >You don't "work hard" for stock dividends. You just put your money in >stocks and they come all by themselves... although I guess I did word >that a lit

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-07 Thread Gary Turner
DvB wrote: >Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 03:59, James Buchanan wrote: >> > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:34:51PM -0600, DvB wrote: >> > > > "James Buchanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Once >you find a private company or NGO that's willing to provide adequ

Re: did lilo rewrite my boot sector?

2003-02-07 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Matt Price wrote: > > Hi, > > I was installing a new kernel and accidentally pressed "return" when > asked if I wanted to have lilo rewrite the boot sector of my disk. > The install failed, and I want to figure out whether the boot sector > was ACTUALLY rewritten. I use GRUB, so I'd really r

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