Re: [OT] Best MP3 player used with Debian

2002-12-21 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, thanks On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 11:45:31PM -0800, nate wrote: > Osamu Aoki said: > > I was thinking to use Samba share to get files from vender provided > > windows MP3 encoder software to be legitimate :) Do they include these in > > MP3 plater package? > > what? I have no idea what you just s

Re: [OT] Best MP3 player used with Debian

2002-12-21 Thread nate
Osamu Aoki said: > Hi, > > I am thinking to buy a 64MN-128MB class small portable MP3 player and > going to use it as a language leaning (tape) player. What is the best > portable MP3 player which can be used with a Debian system with USB? not sure, I prefer the Diamond rio 300, Parallel-port bas

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 04:15:35PM -0800, nate wrote: > it can, and does I've been using it for ages. I do not like to run > ntpd on everything[1]. The less daemons listening on ports the better for me. > ntpd is more accurate then ntpdate, but doing a ntpdate ; > hwclock --systohc works fine for m

trubble apt-getting ~elphick postgresql

2002-12-21 Thread will trillich
having written the newbiedoc 'apt-get-intro' i feel a bit sheepish asking this -- but i can't get apt-get update to yank the postgresql files from people.debian.org/~elphick... with my /etc/apt/sources.list set to include deb http://people.debian.org/~elphick woody main contrib non-free i

Re: [OT] Best MP3 player used with Debian

2002-12-21 Thread Bradley Alexander
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 01:43, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > I am thinking to buy a 64MN-128MB class small portable MP3 player and > going to use it as a language leaning (tape) player. What is the best > portable MP3 player which can be used with a Debian system with USB? > > I was checking Fry's (

Promise PDC20265 lockups...Please help

2002-12-21 Thread Bradley Alexander
I'm having problems with a Promise controller on my motherboard. Everything works fine until I plug a drive into it, which kinda defeats the purpose of having it on the motherboard. :) In any case, it is 1GHz Athlon-C running Debian/sid. The motherboard is an Asus A7V133 with 768MB of RAM. It has

high traffic problem

2002-12-21 Thread eric lin
The advertisement of ebay sale or bidding , they all free to broadcast their onw graph or photo by themselves, I also try(but of course fail) that actually is not difficult just in their html http://yoursite/photo.jpg";>, and I do not think ebay specifically block me. So I guess is ISP level mak

Re: Gender Balanced True Govt Already Present For World Peace

2002-12-21 Thread Glyn Millington
"Mark L. Kahnt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> $ apt-cache show peace_on_earth >> Package: peace_on_earth >> Priority: optional >> Section: misc >> Maintainer: >> Version: 0.001alpha-1 >> Provides: utopian_society >> Conflicts: human_nature > > Not reliable on military computing platforms... So

Re: not work

2002-12-21 Thread Gerald V. Livingston II
eric lin said: > but my html.index of C:\apach2\htdocs\ or /var/www/index.html > >Actually in the start apache2 in dos mode, I get some error or > warning > message > (730048)Only one usage of each socket address (protocal/network > address/port) is normally permitted. : make_sock: could not

Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-21 Thread Bill Moseley
I had somene run: date; burn-cd.sh; date and burning the CD using cdrdao (48x drive -- about 4 minutes to burn a CD) caused the system clock to fall behind about *50* seconds. Maybe it's because the CD-R is so fast? "Let's do the time warp again!" They are running testing with 2.4.18 and xf

[OT] Best MP3 player used with Debian

2002-12-21 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, I am thinking to buy a 64MN-128MB class small portable MP3 player and going to use it as a language leaning (tape) player. What is the best portable MP3 player which can be used with a Debian system with USB? I was checking Fry's (local gadget store) and their box said that some of the MP3 p

Re: how to trans jpg to gif

2002-12-21 Thread nate
eric lin said: > Hi nate: > >Some Last article you ever mention about broadcast to other site not > by hyperlink or upload but directly by owncompany's real time concurcent > server is high trafic, and is not allow at some site. > >Is that possible not because my perl or apache not config

Re: how to trans jpg to gif

2002-12-21 Thread eric lin
Hi nate: Some Last article you ever mention about broadcast to other site not by hyperlink or upload but directly by owncompany's real time concurcent server is high trafic, and is not allow at some site. Is that possible not because my perl or apache not configure well but becase my this

scsi (ide-scsi) errors

2002-12-21 Thread Bill Moseley
This is something new. I've been able to rip from this drive before. I can still play cd audio from that drive (with cdplay, for example). Trying to run cdparanoia I get the following errors (as either a normal use or as root). $ cdparanoia 1-2 cdparanoia III release 9.8 (March 23, 2001) (C

not work

2002-12-21 Thread eric lin
No perl, in IE or netscape's URL, is I type http://www.linuxspice.com/case0.jpg I can see my photo but my html.index of C:\apach2\htdocs\ or /var/www/index.html if I have a line class="rightsidebar"> http://www.linuxspice.com/case.jpg"; width="200" height="150"> The URL in the quo

Unclog disk space on your PC - NOW 1/3 OFF!

2002-12-21 Thread Real.com Accessories
(For e-mailing list removal information see bottom of e-mail.) You can't re-write histo

Xnest problems

2002-12-21 Thread Tom Badran
I have managed to get an Xnest session running as different user to work, and i can open gnome-session on in by giving gnome-session the --display parameter. However i would like to be able to just start Xnest and have a set of commands run automatically, the default Xnest runs empty. Ive tries

Re: simple exim configuration

2002-12-21 Thread Paul Scott
Alan Chandler wrote: Can you tell me what configuration causes any of those connections (except for those which have already been answered in this thread). Fetchmail Runs as a daemon (debian package loaded and started by /etc/init.d/fetchmail) - - I have listed some of my /etc/fetchmailrc

Re: Gender Balanced True Govt Already Present For World Peace

2002-12-21 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 00:23, sean finney wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 08:07:57PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 10:52:11PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > > > apt-get install peace_on_earth goodwill_towards_men > > $ apt-cache show peace_on_earth > Package: peace_on_earth

Re: Gender Balanced True Govt Already Present For World Peace

2002-12-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 12:23:47AM -0500, sean finney wrote: > $ apt-cache show peace_on_earth > Package: peace_on_earth > Priority: optional > Section: misc > Maintainer: > Version: 0.001alpha-1 > Provides: utopian_society > Conflicts: human_nature Conflicts: human-nature, reganomics, social-con

Re: Gender Balanced True Govt Already Present For World Peace

2002-12-21 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 08:07:57PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 10:52:11PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > > apt-get install peace_on_earth goodwill_towards_men $ apt-cache show peace_on_earth Package: peace_on_earth Priority: optional Section: misc Maintainer: Version: 0.00

Re: about web link

2002-12-21 Thread eric lin
not work by direct static ip as url either on http://***>. but hyperlink with http://www.mycompany.com/photo.jpg work, every from othersite (from www.finitesite.com -- it is a free webhosting site) do not know why, hope experienced webmaster give me more hints highly apprecaite Vineet Kumar w

Re: Sylpheed and mail clients (was: Can Kmail be used outside of KDE)?

2002-12-21 Thread Bill Moseley
At 08:31 AM 12/18/02 +, Carlos Sousa wrote: Sorry for taking so long to get back to this -- it's been one of those weeks. >On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:00:25 -0800 Bill Moseley wrote: >> That version of Sylpheed doesn't seem to deal well with counting new >> messages, and when I use the threaded vi

Re: about web link

2002-12-21 Thread Gerald V. Livingston II
Vineet Kumar said: > This mailing list is intended for community support for Debian > GNU/Linux. As it is extraordinarily high-traffic already, we would > appreciate that everyone try to limit posts here to on-topic questions > (somehow related to Debian), and take other questions to more > appr

Re: This is incorrect advice (Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!)

2002-12-21 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 10:12:56PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Michael D. Schleif writes: > > granted, wherever feasible, ntpd is technically the best . . . > > Do you know of some benchmarks comparing ntp and chrony? I thought chronyd did not implement all of the time protocol RFC and had fewer

Asus A7N8X Deluxe, supported?

2002-12-21 Thread Fraser Campbell
I like to run either stable or testing on this motherboard, does anyone know if it will work fine with Debian? I'm having a hard time tracking down info, it uses the nforce2 chipset from nvidia. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: about web link

2002-12-21 Thread Vineet Kumar
* eric ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021221 18:54]: >class="rightsidebar"> > > http://www.linuxspice.com/case0.jpg"; width="96" > height="64"> > This is WAY off topic. Here's your fish for the day: http://64.91.61.186/case.jpg"; width="96" height="64"> You had a mysterious closing t

Re: Gender Balanced True Govt Already Present For World Peace

2002-12-21 Thread Dan Hunt
> > apt-get install peace_on_earth goodwill_towards_men This program can move from sid to sarge to woody? Isn't it: apt-get -y install peace_on_earth goodwill_towards_men Sniff. Peace, everone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

fuc you

2002-12-21 Thread Serginho
quero que todo mundo se foda neste natal. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: how to trans jpg to gif

2002-12-21 Thread Bruno Diniz de Paula
Hi Eric, use: convert file.jpg file.gif The 'convert' program is part of the package imagemagick. Bruno. On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 07:13, eric lin wrote: > Dear linuxer: > >Do any one know how to change jpg to gif?(I guess we can not show jpg > file from other people's page directly) > > hi

Re: how to trans jpg to gif

2002-12-21 Thread nate
eric lin said: > Dear linuxer: > >Do any one know how to change jpg to gif?(I guess we can not show jpg > file from other people's page directly) try the 'convert' program from imagemagick nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

Re: This is incorrect advice (Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!)

2002-12-21 Thread John Hasler
Michael D. Schleif writes: > granted, wherever feasible, ntpd is technically the best . . . Do you know of some benchmarks comparing ntp and chrony? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "u

how to trans jpg to gif

2002-12-21 Thread eric lin
Dear linuxer: Do any one know how to change jpg to gif?(I guess we can not show jpg file from other people's page directly) highly apprecaite -- Sincere Eric www.linuxspice.com linux pc for sale -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: Gender Balanced True Govt Already Present For World Peace

2002-12-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 10:52:11PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > apt-get install peace_on_earth goodwill_towards_men Or to quote a caller to Geeks in Space (http://thesync.com/geeks), "apt-get install jesus" We all love Debian here. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debia

Re: Blackbox/Fluxbox, no EXIT command

2002-12-21 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 11:34:00AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > Hi all, > > Seems that the Debian default installation of both Blackbox and > Fluxbox doesn't include an "Exit" command. The only way I can get > out of X is to hit ctrl-alt-backspace, which is not very elegant. > Does anyone know wh

Re: Gender Balanced True Govt Already Present For World Peace

2002-12-21 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 13:46, Gender Balanced World Peace wrote: > Gender Balanced True Government Already Spread Upon the Earth > and Being Born Everywhere > Only Gender Balanced True Government (and Gender Balanced Global > Diplomacy Organizations) Will Bring Forth/Sustain Prosperity and World Pe

Re: killing the penguin - SOLVED!

2002-12-21 Thread Robert Storey
Thanks Andrej!!! Your solution worked. Placing the parameter: video=vga16:off into GRUB's menu.lst file (or lilo.conf for anyone who still runs lilo) gets rid of that nasty framebuffer console. My console is now just text - no more penguins floating around the screen. regards, Robert Storey

Blackbox/Fluxbox, no EXIT command

2002-12-21 Thread Robert Storey
Hi all, Seems that the Debian default installation of both Blackbox and Fluxbox doesn't include an "Exit" command. The only way I can get out of X is to hit ctrl-alt-backspace, which is not very elegant. Does anyone know what I should stick into my .blackbox or .fluxbox directory that can cure thi

Auto completion on Galeon

2002-12-21 Thread Bruno Diniz de Paula
Hi all, does anyone know why in the latest versions of Galeon (galeon-snapshot - 1.3.1) the URI auto completion feature is disabled? If possible, how can I enable? Thanks, Bruno. -- Bruno Diniz de Paula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rutgers University signature.asc Description: This is a digitally sign

Re: ugly failure apt-get

2002-12-21 Thread Hank Marquardt
Fair enough, I was sketchy -- This is sid -- last update was 10/30 (it's been a while) The failure was "rm: reading directory `/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/.': Function not implmented" dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess rm cleanup returned error exit status 1 dpkg: cannot scan updates directory

Re: This is incorrect advice (Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!)

2002-12-21 Thread Michael D. Schleif
"N. Thomas" wrote: > > * Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-21 19:56:20 -0600]: > > > Contrary to what you may have heard, ntpdate does not keep your system > > > clock synced. > > > > In fact, you can *force* ntpdate to slew the clock rate to achieve > > accuracy rather than stepping it;

Re: ugly failure apt-get

2002-12-21 Thread nate
Hank Marquardt said: > just apt-get update/upgraded ... > > unpacks/sets up these packages ... bsdutils, coreutils, debianutils, > e2fsprogs, gzip ... then it fails failed how? what was the message if any? Once during a debian 2.2->3.0 upgrade I had dpkg segfault, I'm certain it was a memory error

A little dpkg wierdness after upgrade to testing

2002-12-21 Thread Neal Lippman
I noted a little weirdness with apt-get and dpkg after my dist-upgrade from woody->testing tonight. My practice is to run in my usual user-level account (nl) and use sudo for all root-like operations. When I install, for install, I use 'sudo apt-get install ' and so on. That has always worked just

Re: This is incorrect advice (Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!)

2002-12-21 Thread N. Thomas
* Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-21 19:56:20 -0600]: > > Contrary to what you may have heard, ntpdate does not keep your system > > clock synced. > > In fact, you can *force* ntpdate to slew the clock rate to achieve > accuracy rather than stepping it; see the '-B' option. Yes, but t

After upgrade to testing, ?zinf problem

2002-12-21 Thread Neal Lippman
I just dist-upgraded from woody->testing tonight. After the upgrade, I tried to test things out to ensure nothing was broken, and when I got to testing sound, tried to play an ogg file with freeamp - which just didn't work right. I also could not get ogg123 to work, since it demanded libvorbisfile

ugly failure apt-get

2002-12-21 Thread Hank Marquardt
just apt-get update/upgraded ... unpacks/sets up these packages ... bsdutils, coreutils, debianutils, e2fsprogs, gzip ... then it fails And it turns out now no usual commands (ls, find) work ... something basic is fubar'ed in one of those early packages ... anyone else seeing this? -- Hank Marq

Modules weirdness after upgrade to testing...

2002-12-21 Thread Neal Lippman
Tonight, I took the plunge and upgraded woody->testing, so that I could get X4.2.1 and try out my new ATI 7500. Anyway, there are a few weird things that I could use some help on; this post relates to modules. I did the upgrade by changing all occurrences of "stable" to "testing" in /etc/apt/sourc

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread John Hasler
Vincent writes: > Does [chrony] set the hardware clock? It can, using the 'trimrtc' directive (this is not properly documented: a bug). -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Outlook calendar sharing?

2002-12-21 Thread Frank Copeland
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 02:39:27AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I dont think making him search elseware because you cant be bothered to cc > him is fair, its NOT obvious Debian has archives, so im ccing him your > message below you ass. If he found the list he can find the archives. And *don

about web link

2002-12-21 Thread eric
Subject: Re: about web link > > > - Original Message - > Your previous message had if i remember right > This one had a missing =, and httpd instead of http. > > simply put http://www.company2.com/photo.jpg";> and it will work. No , it does not work. I put the small size, same

Re: Outlook calendar sharing?

2002-12-21 Thread Hell.Surfers
I dont think making him search elseware because you cant be bothered to cc him is fair, its NOT obvious Debian has archives, so im ccing him your message below you ass. Regards, Dean. On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 02:22:37 + (UTC) Frank Copeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Begin Message --- On 20

Re: Outlook calendar sharing?

2002-12-21 Thread Frank Copeland
On 20 Dec 02 21:47:52 GMT, Andrew M. A. Cater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Second question: I'm about to build a Debian server for a charity > to act as their mailhub, printserver et. al. One of the users > wants an MS Exchange server "to support calendar sharing in Outlook" > - any clues as to h

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 19:50:39 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Vincent writes: > > This is what is used on the machines at my lab, but the daemon sometimes > > dies. > > Shouldn't happen. Have you filed a bug report? I'm not the administrator of the machines at my lab, so I couldn't report any use

This is incorrect advice (Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!)

2002-12-21 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 17:51, N. Thomas wrote: > Contrary to what you may have heard, ntpdate does not keep your system > clock synced. Also ignore the foolish recommendations to run ntpdate > from a cron job. > > ntpdate works like date(1), but it sets your clock's time to that of an > ntp server

Re: ext3 kernel bug, was: Compiling a kernel on an UltraSparc?

2002-12-21 Thread Craig Dickson
Frank Copeland wrote: > AIUI, the problem with ext3 filesystems applies only if they are in > journal mode, which isn't the default. I've also seen suggestions that > the bug exists in several versions of the 2.4.x kernels prior to > 2.4.20. You mean "data journaling" mode -- ext3 is always journ

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread John Hasler
Vincent writes: > This is what is used on the machines at my lab, but the daemon sometimes > dies. Shouldn't happen. Have you filed a bug report? > So, I wouldn't say that this is a good solution, unless there is a way to > restart ntpd automatically (by cron?) when it dies. man inittab Or tr

ext3 kernel bug, was: Compiling a kernel on an UltraSparc?

2002-12-21 Thread Frank Copeland
On 21 Dec 02 19:15:50 GMT, Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, 2.4.20 is not the kernel you want if you run ext3 filesystems. AIUI, the problem with ext3 filesystems applies only if they are in journal mode, which isn't the default. I've also seen suggestions that the bug exists in

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread John Hasler
Lance Simmons writes: > Won't that still be bad for the machines on the internal network? Their > clocks will regularly be reset. If he runs it frequently and the clocks in the clients aren't too bad the changes will be less than a second and therefor unlikely to damage anything. He'd be better

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread N. Thomas
* Lance Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-21 19:16:56 -0600]: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 07:28:20PM -0500, N. Thomas wrote: > > > > Why don't you just run ntpd on the one machine that talks to the > > higher stratum servers and use ntpdate for your internal network? > > Won't that still be bad

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 18:51:24 -0500, N. Thomas wrote: > If you want to keep your clock in sync use ntpd -- that's what it was > designed for. This is what is used on the machines at my lab, but the daemon sometimes dies. So, I wouldn't say that this is a good solution, unless there is a way to

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread John Hasler
Nate writes: > As above, only 1 system sync's to an external server, and it is a .gov > server, time.nist.gov or something. I was about to write that you should not use a stratum 1 server, but this page implies that NIST doesn't mind at all.

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT! - more

2002-12-21 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Bill Moseley wrote: > At 04:27 PM 12/21/02 -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > >> daemon.log:Dec 16 02:20:14 burn ntpd_initres[307]: couldn't resolve > `ntp1.mainecoon.com', giving up on it > >> daemon.log:Dec 21 14:30:29 burn ntpdate[6612]: step time server > 63.192.96.2 offset

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread Lance Simmons
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 07:28:20PM -0500, N. Thomas wrote: > > Why don't you just run ntpd on the one machine that talks to the higher > stratum servers and use ntpdate for your internal network? Won't that still be bad for the machines on the internal network? Their clocks will regularly be res

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread Michael D. Schleif
John Hasler wrote: > > N. Thomas writes: > > Why don't you just run ntpd on the one machine that talks to the higher > > stratum servers and use ntpdate for your internal network? > > And that higher stratum server should be that of your ISP, if possible. > IMHO all ISPs should make time servers

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 07:01:41PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > N. Thomas writes: > > Why don't you just run ntpd on the one machine that talks to the higher > > stratum servers and use ntpdate for your internal network? > > And that higher stratum server should be that of your ISP, if possible. >

Re: Compiling a kernel on an UltraSparc?

2002-12-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:36:53PM -0600, Gerald V. Livingston II wrote: > Where did you see text regarding 2.4.20 problems with ext3? The box > has ext2 right now but I was going to convert some time after the > kernel upgrade. See Herbert Xu's reply to my earlier post; 2.4.20 only barfs if you a

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread N. Thomas
* nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-21 16:59:52 -0800]: > N. Thomas said: > > > Why don't you just run ntpd on the one machine that talks to the > > higher stratum servers and use ntpdate for your internal network? > > this is infact, what I do[1] :) sorry if I wasn't clear. Ah, I see. Disregard

Re: Compiling a kernel on an UltraSparc?

2002-12-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 11:40:27AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > BTW, 2.4.20 is not the kernel you want if you run ext3 filesystems. > > OTOH, 2.4.19 seems to not want to provide DRM support for the Creator. > > 2.4.20 ext3 is OK as long as you don'

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread John Hasler
N. Thomas writes: > Why don't you just run ntpd on the one machine that talks to the higher > stratum servers and use ntpdate for your internal network? And that higher stratum server should be that of your ISP, if possible. IMHO all ISPs should make time servers available to their customers. --

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread nate
John Hasler said: > Nate writes: >> If ntpd can be configured not to listen for connections on any port then >> maybe I would use it... > > Well, chrony certainly can: the default is to allow no access. You can > configure it to allow or deny access from just about any combination of > hosts, IPs,

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread nate
N. Thomas said: > Why don't you just run ntpd on the one machine that talks to the higher > stratum servers and use ntpdate for your internal network? this is infact, what I do[1] :) sorry if I wasn't clear. I run ntpd on 1 machine(sometimes 1 machine per network). This syncs to some external sou

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread John Hasler
Antoine writes: > I was one of the people using ntpdate in a cron job, although it was not > because I was lazy, all my servers have ntpd, I only used ntpdate on > clients. Then your clients should have been connecting to the ntp daemons on your servers, so there should have been no impact on the

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread John Hasler
Nate writes: > If ntpd can be configured not to listen for connections on any port then > maybe I would use it... Well, chrony certainly can: the default is to allow no access. You can configure it to allow or deny access from just about any combination of hosts, IPs, and subnets. It is simple t

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT! - more

2002-12-21 Thread Bill Moseley
At 04:27 PM 12/21/02 -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: >> daemon.log:Dec 16 02:20:14 burn ntpd_initres[307]: couldn't resolve `ntp1.mainecoon.com', giving up on it >> daemon.log:Dec 21 14:30:29 burn ntpdate[6612]: step time server 63.192.96.2 offset 3203.797781 sec > >sounds like you need to fix your dns ??

Re: Compiling a kernel on an UltraSparc?

2002-12-21 Thread Herbert Xu
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW, 2.4.20 is not the kernel you want if you run ext3 filesystems. > OTOH, 2.4.19 seems to not want to provide DRM support for the Creator. 2.4.20 ext3 is OK as long as you don't enable data=journal (the default is data=ordered). -- Debian GNU/Linu

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread N. Thomas
* nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-21 16:15:35 -0800]: > > N. Thomas said: > > Contrary to what you may have heard, ntpdate does not keep your > > system clock synced. > > it can, and does I've been using it for ages. I do not like to run > ntpd on everything[1]. The less daemons listening on por

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT! - more

2002-12-21 Thread Alvin Oga
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Bill Moseley wrote: > At 06:51 PM 12/21/02 -0500, N. Thomas wrote: ... > Anyway, here's all the logs I have: > > $ fgrep ntp daemon.log.0 daemon.log | tail -10 > daemon.log:Dec 16 02:20:12 burn ntpd[299]: ntpd 4.1.0 Mon Mar 25 23:39:47 UTC 2002 >(2) > daemon.log:Dec 16 0

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread Bill Moseley
At 06:51 PM 12/21/02 -0500, N. Thomas wrote: >* Sonny Kupka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-21 10:46:12 -0600]: >> I have ntpdate installed on woody.. and it's not automagically keeping my >> system in sync.. > >Contrary to what you may have heard, ntpdate does not keep your system >clock synced. Als

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 00:51, N. Thomas wrote: > * Sonny Kupka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-21 10:46:12 -0600]: > > I have ntpdate installed on woody.. and it's not automagically keeping my > > system in sync.. > > Contrary to what you may have heard, ntpdate does not keep your system > clock sync

Re: "%pon" can't connect (with syslog )

2002-12-21 Thread Rodrigo F. Baroni
Hello all, I got kernel 2.4.18 and compiled it. Since this, I'm not getting to connect at my internet provider. If I boot with the older kernel image (2.2pci standard installation Debian 3.0) I get to connect, using the sames config files of ppp or wvdial... I think to be some option of

Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread nate
N. Thomas said: > * Sonny Kupka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-21 10:46:12 -0600]: >> I have ntpdate installed on woody.. and it's not automagically keeping >> my system in sync.. > > Contrary to what you may have heard, ntpdate does not keep your system > clock synced. Also ignore the foolish recom

Re: ISA PnP boot up

2002-12-21 Thread nate
Jeffrey Taylor said: > Thanks Nate. I eventually found that. My problem now is that the > i82365.o module complains when loaded about "init_module: Device or > resource busy" when I try and start the pcmcia service. It's an ISA card > reader, so I thought the ISA PnP wasn't up. > > Anyone have

sync palm with gnomecal

2002-12-21 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
Hi I'm trying to sync my palm with gnomecal, but when I enable this module in the Palm Conduits dialog I get an error and in the console I have this error: libgpilotdcm-WARNING **: unable to g_module_open (/usr/lib/gnome-pilot/conduits/libcalendar_conduit.so), reason /usr/lib/gnome-pilot/condui

ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!

2002-12-21 Thread N. Thomas
* Sonny Kupka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-21 10:46:12 -0600]: > I have ntpdate installed on woody.. and it's not automagically keeping my > system in sync.. Contrary to what you may have heard, ntpdate does not keep your system clock synced. Also ignore the foolish recommendations to run ntpdate

Gender Balanced True Govt Already Present For World Peace

2002-12-21 Thread Gender Balanced World Peace
Gender Balanced True Government Already Spread Upon the Earth and Being Born Everywhere Only Gender Balanced True Government (and Gender Balanced Global Diplomacy Organizations) Will Bring Forth/Sustain Prosperity and World Peace (UK, US and Iraq all still Mostly-Monogenderments; Ranked 47, 58 an

Re: ISA PnP boot up

2002-12-21 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
Quoting nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jeffrey Taylor said: > > What is the preferred why in Debian 3.0 to bring ISA PnP up (i.e., run > > "isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf") at boot time? > > last I checked, all you had to do was to install it(isapnptools), the > installation will put a script in /etc/rcS.d(

Re: ISA PnP boot up

2002-12-21 Thread nate
Jeffrey Taylor said: > What is the preferred why in Debian 3.0 to bring ISA PnP up (i.e., run > "isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf") at boot time? last I checked, all you had to do was to install it(isapnptools), the installation will put a script in /etc/rcS.d(I think) which calls it on boot. nate --

Re: killing the penguin (framebuffer)

2002-12-21 Thread Michael D. Crawford
One way to get rid of it is, after you log in, type: reset at the command prompt. That resets your TTY parameters to the default, and gets rid of the penguin. If you put "vga=normal" in /etc/lilo.conf, you will also need to run the "lilo" command to write a new boot sector. But I suggest lea

cups and hpijs driver - follow up

2002-12-21 Thread Michael Olds
Attempting to set up HP DeskJet960c on Linux Woody box. I have made progress which makes failure that much more frustrating at this point. First I got both the KDElibs3-cups utility and the CUPs administration tool to recognize and even allow me to configure the printer by 1. removing all the pri

Re: win2k WS FTP doesn't play well with debian

2002-12-21 Thread Sasha Karlik
same failure in FTP Voyager, as well [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Kirk Strauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 7:37 PM Subject: Re: win2k WS FTP doesn't play well with debian > On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 20:53, Sasha Karlik wrote

ISA PnP boot up

2002-12-21 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
What is the preferred why in Debian 3.0 to bring ISA PnP up (i.e., run "isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf") at boot time? TIA, Jeffrey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Compiling a kernel on an UltraSparc?

2002-12-21 Thread Gerald V. Livingston II
Nathan E Norman said: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:40:51AM -0600, Gerald V. Livingston II > wrote: >> Is there any special info on getting a 2.4.20 kernel to compile >> under >> woody on a Sun UltraSparc-1 Creator. >> >> Yes, the Debian Way (tm) -- or not, I don't care. Right now it fails >> at th

Re: Ntfs Problems

2002-12-21 Thread Pifta
Hm when the writing to an ntfs partition is so dangerous, then i think i must to convert my partition to vfat or Ext2, but how can i do it whitout reformatting the partition? Is there a program what can convert it safely? Or i must reformatting my winchester with fat32 or Ext2 file system? I had s

Re: Linux box loses internet connection...

2002-12-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00:48PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 02:01:26AM -0800, alan brown wrote: > | I have 2 boxes with Debian installed. I thought I'd done things pretty > | similarly but they must have diverged at some point, because one of the > | boxes is p

Re: Linux box loses internet connection...

2002-12-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 02:01:26AM -0800, alan brown wrote: > I have 2 boxes with Debian installed. I thought I'd done things pretty > similarly but they must have diverged at some point, because one of the > boxes is prone to losing touch with the network. If the power adapter > slips out of my

Re: Compiling a kernel on an UltraSparc?

2002-12-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 12:02:33AM -0800, nate wrote: > I don't have personal experience with linux on sparc yet, Downloading > the woody ISOs for it now and plan to install it on my ultra 1 probably > tomorrow though. Don't waste time with the ISOs. Set up a RARP server and TFTP server on an exi

Re: Compiling a kernel on an UltraSparc?

2002-12-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:40:51AM -0600, Gerald V. Livingston II wrote: > Is there any special info on getting a 2.4.20 kernel to compile under > woody on a Sun UltraSparc-1 Creator. > > Yes, the Debian Way (tm) -- or not, I don't care. Right now it fails > at the "make dep" stage using either me

AW: Shutdown via power button

2002-12-21 Thread Stefan Drees
One year ago i had the same problem and found a program named powerswitch from Joris van Rantwijk. The only thing you need is setting the power button from on/off to suspend in your bios. You can get it here: http://deadlock.et.tudelft.nl/~joris/powerswitch/ Hope this helps you. Stefan Drees > -

Re: Ntfs Problems

2002-12-21 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 06:56:42PM +0100, Pifta wrote: > I have this in \etc\fstab : you mean /etc/fstab ? :) > /dev/hdc1 /mnt/stuffz ntfsrw,user 0 0 writing ntfs BAD! seriously though, i don't think you really want that. last i checked you're playing russian

Re: Ntfs Problems

2002-12-21 Thread Matthias Hentges
Am Sam, 2002-12-21 um 18.56 schrieb Pifta: > Hi! > > I have the following problem: When I want to mount an ntfs filesystem, it > works, but the mounted fs seems readable writeable and executeable > for the root, but root can't do chmod, and the fs isn't available for > other users. > I want it mou

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