Re: [mostly-OT] apt-get on RH, is it worth anything? (was Re: Debian: abandon ship?)

2002-06-06 Thread Glen Lee Edwards
On Thu 06 Jun 02 15:45, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 12:48:15PM -0600, user list wrote: > [snip] > > | The reasons I like [debian] are: > | 1. apt-get > > [snip] > > | I'll note in passing that the first reason has lost some edge now > | that RH 7.3 comes with apt-get and

Re: utempter.h ?

2002-06-06 Thread Chris Kenrick
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:13:55PM -0500, Ted Goodridge, Jr wrote: > Which package is utempter.h in? X needs it to build xterm... > > Thanks in advance, None of them, according to http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages. At the bottom of that page, you'll find a facility that allows you to searc

utempter.h ?

2002-06-06 Thread Ted Goodridge, Jr
Which package is utempter.h in? X needs it to build xterm... Thanks in advance, Ted -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Robocode Article in June LJ

2002-06-06 Thread Tom Cook
On 0, David Raeker-Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the June issue of Linux Journal, there is an article entitled > "Programming Life" that discusses Robocode, "a programming environment where > you can create Java robots that battle it out in an arena on your screen." > The program uses the

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-06 Thread Patrick Hsieh
Hello Pietro Cagnoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, What is the advantage to keep the clock on GMT? On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 19:21:28 +0200 Pietro Cagnoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ian D. Stewart wrote: > > Howdy Folks, > > > > Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four > > hour

Re: lm-sensors

2002-06-06 Thread David Z Maze
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 10:34:55PM -0400, Bob Underwood wrote: >> are the new lm-sensors and libsensors2 available somewhere? if so, >> where? i just checked unstable and the packages are the same as in >> woody. > > Has anybody else noticed sid aging li

Re: nothing to apt-get upgrade for a long while?

2002-06-06 Thread Hubert Chan
> "Patrick" == Patrick Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Patrick> Hello, I've got nothing to apt-get upgrade on my woody for a Patrick> long while. Is it normal? Woody is, for all intents and purposes, frozen right now. Only security fixes will go into woody now, after which point it will be

Re: Replacing default PPP deb with custom deb?

2002-06-06 Thread Patrick Hsieh
Hello John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, You mean to modify the version number in the changelog? On 06 Jun 2002 15:23:03 -0500 John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jamin W. Collins writes: > > The deb package made from the patched source bears the same name and > > version as the official pac

Re: [Solved!] Re: Replacing default PPP deb with custom deb?

2002-06-06 Thread Patrick Hsieh
Hello Jamin W.Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Then, how to "unhold" the package? On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 15:02:13 -0500 Jamin W.Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 06 Jun 2002 22:01:26 +0200 > "Joris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=dpkg+%22put+package+on+hold%

Re: nothing to apt-get upgrade for a long while?

2002-06-06 Thread Pollywog
On Fri, 07 Jun 2002 11:12:52 +0800 "Patrick Hsieh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I've got nothing to apt-get upgrade on my woody for a long while. Is it > normal? I don't know whether you are a newbie, so if you are not, please don't be offended... Did you run "apt-get update" before

Re: Pentium optimised vs not

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Jun-2002 Andrew Pollock wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working in what is a Mandrake shop, but relatively open minded about > Debian. I'm already making inroads into getting Debian used as the distro > of choice for infrastructure boxes. Thanks to FAI. Nice work Thomas. > > Mandrake alledgedly compi

nothing to apt-get upgrade for a long while?

2002-06-06 Thread Patrick Hsieh
Hello, I've got nothing to apt-get upgrade on my woody for a long while. Is it normal? -- Patrick Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG public key http://pahud.net/pubkeys/pahudatpahud.gpg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Forcing 9600 or less kbps on modem - URGENT HELP!

2002-06-06 Thread Mike Dresser
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, curtis wrote: > >from at&$ on my courier modem. > > > >&Nn n=0 Highest Link Speed > > n=6 9600 bps > > > >Could be similar on other modems, or at least doable. I can also set the > >minimum speed. You could set this on your modem, and then write it to > >memory, or jus

Re: lm-sensors

2002-06-06 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 10:34:55PM -0400, Bob Underwood wrote: > are the new lm-sensors and libsensors2 available somewhere? if so, where? i > just checked unstable and the packages are the same as in woody. Has anybody else noticed sid aging like

lm-sensors

2002-06-06 Thread Bob Underwood
from a different thread, david maze said: >(There's also the problem that each of the developers has their own >personal pet packages that they'd really like to make the "point >release", but it can't happen for everyone's packages, and someone >needs to make the decision.  Hypothetically, to pick

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-06 Thread synthespian
Em Qua, 2002-06-05 às 08:43, Ivo Wever escreveu: > you wrote: > >Ivo Wever wrote: > > > What happens when the amount of developers falls below the critical > > > level? > > > >That's certainly not the direction in which things are going. A few > >people have left loudly, that's true, but there's al

Re: sound

2002-06-06 Thread Hubert Chan
> "Tom" == Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Tom> Is there some way that I can set the sound level without the need Tom> of launching an audio mixer everytime I start XFree86? You can try installing a command-line non-interactive mixer like aumix, and have it run whenever you sta

Re: Forcing 9600 or less kbps on modem - URGENT HELP!

2002-06-06 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 06:21:08PM -0700, curtis wrote: > But how would I do that? Hyperterminal into the modem? Or is it a > initialization string that can be set from the actual server? Hyperterminal would require you to go use Windows. Just us

Re: [OT] rearranging data files

2002-06-06 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:30:30PM +0200, Joerg Johannes wrote: > > and vice-versa. I need something that makes "Search and replace two spaces by a \newline" > and afterwards a bit of rectangle-editing in emacs obsolete. > Do not know for sure whether such a program exits. But you ca

Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-06 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 01:58:19AM +0200, Helgi ?rn wrote: > Is there someone here with an experience running VmWare 3.1.1 in Woody? > I just need to know if this is at all possible without any major > tweeking. Mostly, yes. Just run the vmware conf

Re: Pentium optimised vs not

2002-06-06 Thread Hubert Chan
> "Andrew" == Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Andrew> Mandrake alledgedly compile all their binaries with Pentium Andrew> optimisation. I was recently asked if Debian's binaries were Andrew> optimised. I didn't think they were. I was wondering, in Andrew> reality, if there w

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-06 Thread ben
On Thursday 06 June 2002 06:02 pm, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 12:13:39PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 03:50:54AM -0700, ben wrote: > > > btw, do you want to shed any light on why your last post directed to > > > me was routed via hungary? > > > > I belie

RE: Robocode Article in June LJ

2002-06-06 Thread Wienand Ian
>In the June issue of Linux Journal, there is an article entitled >"Programming Life" that discusses Robocode, "a programming environment where >you can create Java robots that battle it out in an arena on your screen." >The program uses the Java Developer's kit. I find the easiest way to get the

sound

2002-06-06 Thread Tom Allison
I've got a rather long running problem that's rather generic to Linux. Sound. I can get sound to work, sort of. It's very low volume, until I start up some kind of audio mixer or sound-level application - then the volume jumps from 20% to 75% without my doing anything more. Is there some way

Re: More boot from scsi w/ Promise ultra qs

2002-06-06 Thread Alice M. Pinard
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 08:39:13PM -0400, Alice M. Pinard wrote: > > Hmm my bios has a place to choose booting from scsi first instead of > > ide but even when I choose that there are no boot lineup > > (A,Cdrom,C; A,C; and such) choices t

Robocode Article in June LJ

2002-06-06 Thread David Raeker-Jordan
In the June issue of Linux Journal, there is an article entitled "Programming Life" that discusses Robocode, "a programming environment where you can create Java robots that battle it out in an arena on your screen." The program uses the Java Developer's kit. Amoung the packages reported by "apt-

Re: Debian menu not showing up in gnome...

2002-06-06 Thread Cam Ellison
Did you run update-menus? Cam * Jeff Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > another issue in my trial with the unofficial XF4.2 debs is an empty > debian menu. > > I am running gnome. > > any ideas > > thanks > -jeff > > -- Cam Ellison Ph.D. R.Psych. From Roberts Creek on B.C.'s incompara

Re: Software work-around for broken BIOS clock?

2002-06-06 Thread Cam Ellison
Just a guess: your quickly-discharging battery suggests a high-resistance or intermittent ground somewhere. Maybe you should take the box apart (completely) and have a close look? * Karl E. Jorgensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Problem: I have a machine that keeps loosing it's CMOS settings. > C

HP 2200d (double face) still not working

2002-06-06 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Hi, I posted this before and it isnt working yet. If anyone can help me I will be glad. Thanks, --- Hi a

Re: Forcing 9600 or less kbps on modem - URGENT HELP!

2002-06-06 Thread curtis
Mike Dresser wrote: On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, curtis wrote: What do I need to do in order to set up the modem on a dial-in server so that the maximum speed is no greater than 9600? I would have thought that the parameters in /etc/mgetty/mgetty.config would be sufficient (yes, I am using mgetty),

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-06 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 02:02:11 +0100 "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 12:13:39PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > I believe that that's due to somebody on the list with an extremely > > stupid mail configuration that takes it upon itself to deliver to all > > the addr

Re: Forcing 9600 or less kbps on modem - URGENT HELP!

2002-06-06 Thread Mike Dresser
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, curtis wrote: > What do I need to do in order to set up the modem on a dial-in server so > that the maximum speed is no greater than 9600? > > I would have thought that the parameters in /etc/mgetty/mgetty.config > would be sufficient (yes, I am using mgetty), but apparently no

Re: Pentium optimised vs not

2002-06-06 Thread Chris Kenrick
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 10:58:18AM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working in what is a Mandrake shop, but relatively open minded about > Debian. I'm already making inroads into getting Debian used as the distro > of choice for infrastructure boxes. Thanks to FAI. Nice work Thomas. > >

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 12:13:39PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 03:50:54AM -0700, ben wrote: > > btw, do you want to shed any light on why your last post directed to > > me was routed via hungary? > > I believe that that's due to somebody on the list with an extremely > stu

Pentium optimised vs not

2002-06-06 Thread Andrew Pollock
Hi, I'm working in what is a Mandrake shop, but relatively open minded about Debian. I'm already making inroads into getting Debian used as the distro of choice for infrastructure boxes. Thanks to FAI. Nice work Thomas. Mandrake alledgedly compile all their binaries with Pentium optimisation. I w

Forcing 9600 or less kbps on modem - URGENT HELP!

2002-06-06 Thread curtis
What do I need to do in order to set up the modem on a dial-in server so that the maximum speed is no greater than 9600? I would have thought that the parameters in /etc/mgetty/mgetty.config would be sufficient (yes, I am using mgetty), but apparently not. Also, is there a way to set the conn

Re: Print to postscript question

2002-06-06 Thread Tom Cook
On 0, "Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello comp.windows.x.kde > > Every time I try to print from any KDE 2.2 application to a postscript > file, the generated ps file has 1-2 last lines of each page repeated on the > next page. > > Any PS viewer shows this. And I've looke

Re: More boot from scsi w/ Promise ultra qs

2002-06-06 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 08:39:13PM -0400, Alice M. Pinard wrote: > Hmm my bios has a place to choose booting from scsi first instead of > ide but even when I choose that there are no boot lineup > (A,Cdrom,C; A,C; and such) choices that have 'scsi' in them... most of the > directions I've s

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-06 Thread Tom Cook
On 0, Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] > > (There's also the problem that each of the developers has their own > > personal pet packages that they'd really like to make the "point > > release", but it can't happen for everyone's packages, an

More boot from scsi w/ Promise ultra qs

2002-06-06 Thread Alice M. Pinard
Hmm my bios has a place to choose booting from scsi first instead of ide but even when I choose that there are no boot lineup (A,Cdrom,C; A,C; and such) choices that have 'scsi' in them... most of the directions I've seen where the one giving the directions used the 'boot from scsi' option

RE: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-06 Thread synthespian
Em Qua, 2002-06-05 às 18:41, Brooks R. Robinson escreveu: > | Uh huh. And get cracked tomorrow because security updates are *not* > | being made for woody at this time. There is a list of approximately a > | dozen *known* security problems with woody that will be dealt with > | *later*. Updates

Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-06 Thread Helgi Örn
Thank's. Great! now I can iron over a RedHat with a Woody... :-) Cheers, Helgi Örn On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 02:00, Quenten Griffith wrote: > Yes I am and it runs great right out of the box with the 2.4.18 kernel. > > > Is there someone here with an experience running VmWare 3.1.1 in Woody? > > I j

Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-06 Thread Quenten Griffith
Yes I am and it runs great right out of the box with the 2.4.18 kernel. Helgi Örn wrote: > Hello all! > > Is there someone here with an experience running VmWare 3.1.1 in Woody? > I just need to know if this is at all possible without any major > tweeking. > > Cheers, > Helgi Örn > > -- >

VmWare on Woody

2002-06-06 Thread Helgi Örn
Hello all! Is there someone here with an experience running VmWare 3.1.1 in Woody? I just need to know if this is at all possible without any major tweeking. Cheers, Helgi Örn -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

Re: good Linux modems

2002-06-06 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
> wherever you heard that should be dismissed for lack of credibility. i'm > running the same modem, albeit an earlier v.90 incarnation, for a year > without the slightest problem. it's possible that your source made an > assumption based on the fact the usr--and it's usr, not usb--site doesn't

Re: [OT] rearranging data files

2002-06-06 Thread Matias Hermanrud Fjeld
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 06 June 2002 21:30, Joerg Johannes wrote: > At university, we have an old spectro-photometer, that spits out its data > in ASCII formatted files. The problem is, The data I get is sorted in lines > rather than in columns (See examples below

RE: LILO and consumers

2002-06-06 Thread Jeremy Turner
> -Original Message- > From: John Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: LILO and consumers > > > Hello, Hi. > This comment is related to red hat linux installation but since it is just > a coment on LILO in general I have posted it here. I believe this list is geared towards

Debian menu not showing up in gnome...

2002-06-06 Thread Jeff Johnson
another issue in my trial with the unofficial XF4.2 debs is an empty debian menu. I am running gnome. any ideas thanks -jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Donations to Debian???

2002-06-06 Thread Tom Allison
Andrew Sweger wrote: How about giving to SPI? http://www.spi-inc.org/donations On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Tom Allison wrote: But I feel that it is important that I make some contribution to the Debian group by making some kind of donation to the core Debian.org from time to time. Especially wh

Re: good Linux modems

2002-06-06 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 02:56:11PM -0400, Faheem Mitha wrote: > No external modem is a Winmodem. If you buy an external modem you are Sadly, this is no longer true. Be wary of any modem retailing under $80. > a) You can see what state it is at all

Finding postgresql

2002-06-06 Thread Raymond L. Zarling
I'd like to install postgresql on my Athlon XP 2000+ based Debian 2.4.18 installation. Actually, I'd _really_ like to figure out what's going on with dselect. dselect does not find any entries for postgresql on my Athlon. But on my Toshiba laptop, running exactly the same Debian release, and usi

Re: KaZaA + Debian Woody + XP

2002-06-06 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:59:34PM -0400, Oleg wrote: > I don't know about Trojans though. Then it's not to be trusted. - -- Baloo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8/+coNtWkM9Ny9xURAkFTAJ92YdzvUNoEf5JJeIPiMT

Re: KaZaA + Debian Woody + XP

2002-06-06 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:59:40AM -0400, Oleg wrote: > People, please stop with Gnutella already. Only a person who never usedKaZaA > would say something like this. My question was about using KaZaA from Linux > with or without XP partition, but wi

Re: Ethereal rights

2002-06-06 Thread Jeff Johnson
Thanks Jeff, I will try this. On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 13:04, Jeff wrote: > Joseph Dane, 2002-Jun-06 09:35 -1000: > > > "Jeff" == Jeff Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Jeff> I try to capture traffic with ethereal and I dont have the > > Jeff> permissions for the device. sou i try

Re: Linux and legacy-free motherboards

2002-06-06 Thread Mark Roach
On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 15:02, Jeff wrote: > Derrick 'dman' Hudson, 2002-Jun-06 10:35 -0500: > > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 01:56:22PM +0200, Joris Lambrecht wrote: > > > > | I've recently purchased a spanking Athlon motherboard (Abit AT7Max) wich > > | is to be installed with Linux, preferably Debian.

LILO and consumers

2002-06-06 Thread John Richardson
Hello, This comment is related to red hat linux installation but since it is just a coment on LILO in general I have posted it here. I really don't think that the linux documentation is very straightforward. First, the toggle boot flag operation seems to be one that can nail novices. Second, maki

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-06 Thread Ivo Wever
you wrote: Ivo Wever wrote: > If the other dists are so terrible that they can't even support the internet > connection of a small group of people for three hours a day, then why is > anyone using them and using them in a commercial environment at that? [Personal story about liking several di

Re: Linux and legacy-free motherboards

2002-06-06 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote on Thu Jun 06, 2002 um 10:35:03AM: > You're best bet would be to try the bf2.4 installer. Since it's a 2.4 > kernel it might have the USB stuff included (I haven't checked). As modules, and the modules are loaded when USB conroller is present. The only weak

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-06 Thread Brian Nelson
David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I agree. I think stable should be able to get more fixes and updates >> than just security fixes. It's well known that much of the software in >> stable is quite buggy and years behind the upstream source (Moz

Re: good Linux modems

2002-06-06 Thread ben
On Thursday 06 June 2002 04:23 am, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > > Note this also supports the new V92 standard. It seems like a good modem. > > Any external modem would be Ok with Linux, but the USR models seem to be > > a good safe choice. > > USB too? > I remember having heard that USB modems wer

RE: Upgrade to Woody

2002-06-06 Thread Bedford, Donald T.
Let me add that "3.2.1 Checking Packages Status" is important. debconfig was not correctly configured and, well, I'm now re-installing my whole system. These manuals are great for us newbies - heed their warnings! And I'd recommend getting to know dselect before diving in... -don -Original M

Software work-around for broken BIOS clock?

2002-06-06 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Problem: I have a machine that keeps loosing it's CMOS settings. Changing battery works - for a couple of weeks. It's not too much of a problem, as the only thing that really is affected is the system time starts at 1st Jan 1990 upon boot-up and the CD-Rom is inaccessible. (I don't worry about the

Re: KaZaA + Debian Woody + XP

2002-06-06 Thread Oleg
On Thursday 06 June 2002 02:35 pm, Matias Hermanrud Fjeld wrote: > It is great. You can download anything. It looks nice. > BUT it is wrong to use and has tons of spyware. www.kazaalite.com has a cracked version: works faster, no ads, spyware, etc.; I don't know about Trojans though. Oleg --

Re: open ports question

2002-06-06 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Wednesday, June 5, Paul Johnson did write: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 02:32:00PM -0400, tvn1981 wrote: > > > 9/tcp opendiscard > > Not sure myself... Standard TCP service; routes everything written to that

Re: Linux and legacy-free motherboards

2002-06-06 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 01:02:18PM -0700, Jeff wrote: | Derrick 'dman' Hudson, 2002-Jun-06 10:35 -0500: | > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 01:56:22PM +0200, Joris Lambrecht wrote: | > | Who can tell me if it's possible to install Debian on a system wich can | > | only handle usb keyboards/mouse from scra

Re: [OT] rearranging data files

2002-06-06 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:30:30PM +0200, Joerg Johannes wrote: > Hi list > > At university, we have an old spectro-photometer, that spits out its data in > ASCII formatted > files. The problem is, The data I get is sorted in lines rather than in > columns (See examples > below). Is there a prog

Re: LILO problem.

2002-06-06 Thread Joachim Fahnenmueller
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:12:48AM -0400, Ming Feng Gu wrote: ( ... ) > I am installing the testing version of debian. during the installation of > LILO, I choose to install it in the boot sector of hda2, which is my Linux > root partition (hda1 is windows 98). Hi, there is only _one_ boot sector

[mostly-OT] apt-get on RH, is it worth anything? (was Re: Debian: abandon ship?)

2002-06-06 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 12:48:15PM -0600, user list wrote: [snip] | The reasons I like [debian] are: | 1. apt-get [snip] | I'll note in passing that the first reason has lost some edge now that | RH 7.3 comes with apt-get and that there are ports to older RH releases. [snip] Is apt-get on RH 7.3

Re: Ethereal rights

2002-06-06 Thread Joseph Dane
> "Jeff" == Jeff Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jeff> are there any more permanent solutions so this doesn't have to Jeff> be done every time i wish to run ethereal? one way would be to use the XAUTHORITY enviroment variable, which names the file in which authorization info is kept. i

Re: Replacing default PPP deb with custom deb?

2002-06-06 Thread John Hasler
Jamin W. Collins writes: > The deb package made from the patched source bears the same name and > version as the official package. I tried finding a way to change this, > but haven't found anything of help. Edit the changelog. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elm

Re: knoppix; was Re: Linux and legacy-free motherboards

2002-06-06 Thread Jeff
Dave Price, 2002-Jun-06 14:15 -0600: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 01:02:18PM -0700, Jeff wrote: > I > > recently booted a brand spanking new Toshiba Satellite 5105-S607 that > > is "legacy free", which means the keyboard and mouse-pad are on the > > USB bus, using the Knoppix CD which is based on the

probleme beim runterfahren

2002-06-06 Thread ben
Hi, bin ein neuer debian user, und versuche mich so langsam reinzufuchsen. mal besser mal schlechter. aber es bringt spass. das problem, mein rechner bleibt regelmäßig beim runterfahren hängen, das sieht dann so aus: stopping X display manager :xdm und das war´s dann. rebooten hingegen funktioniert

Woody and Xfree86 (v4)?

2002-06-06 Thread Dave Price
I am sett ng up woody on a laptop for the first time: I initially apt-get installed xserver-xfree86 I did not have a startx script but 'X' appeared to start the server. with a vesa server selected, i get an x desktop with horking mouse (pointer moves) but no window manager I installed xfonts-

knoppix; was Re: Linux and legacy-free motherboards

2002-06-06 Thread Dave Price
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 01:02:18PM -0700, Jeff wrote: I > recently booted a brand spanking new Toshiba Satellite 5105-S607 that > is "legacy free", which means the keyboard and mouse-pad are on the > USB bus, using the Knoppix CD which is based on the 2.4.18 kernel and > loads KDE. It loaded fine,

Re: Ethereal rights

2002-06-06 Thread Jeff Johnson
Thanks Joseph, This works. are there any more permanent solutions so this doesn't have to be done every time i wish to run ethereal? -jeff On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 12:35, Joseph Dane wrote: > > "Jeff" == Jeff Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Jeff> I try to capture traffic with etherea

Re: Ethereal rights

2002-06-06 Thread Jeff
Joseph Dane, 2002-Jun-06 09:35 -1000: > > "Jeff" == Jeff Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Jeff> I try to capture traffic with ethereal and I dont have the > Jeff> permissions for the device. sou i try to run it from a root > Jeff> console and X cannot open display. > > one way of d

Re: Linux and legacy-free motherboards

2002-06-06 Thread Jeff
Derrick 'dman' Hudson, 2002-Jun-06 10:35 -0500: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 01:56:22PM +0200, Joris Lambrecht wrote: > > | I've recently purchased a spanking Athlon motherboard (Abit AT7Max) wich > | is to be installed with Linux, preferably Debian. > | > | Who can tell me if it's possible to insta

[Solved!] Re: Replacing default PPP deb with custom deb?

2002-06-06 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Thu, 06 Jun 2002 22:01:26 +0200 "Joris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.google.com/search?q=dpkg+%22put+package+on+hold%22 > gives me: > $ echo " hold" | dpkg --set-selections Sweet! Works like a charm. As I suspected, I simply wasn't looking for the right options. Thank you for very

Re: Linux and legacy-free motherboards

2002-06-06 Thread Matthew Sackman
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 01:56:22PM +0200, Joris Lambrecht wrote: > // Please reply-to-all, i'm not on the list for now // > > > Hello communitycontributors, > > I've recently purchased a spanking Athlon motherboard (Abit AT7Max) wich > is to be installed with Linux, preferably Debian. > > Who c

Re: Replacing default PPP deb with custom deb?

2002-06-06 Thread Joris
> The deb package made from the patched source bears the same name and > version as the official package. I tried finding a way to change this, > but haven't found anything of help. I suspect either I'm not looking in > the right locations, or I'm not searching for the right items. Then > result

Replacing default PPP deb with custom deb?

2002-06-06 Thread Jamin W . Collins
A little background on the situation: I'm working on replacing an existing RH based firewall with a Debian based installation. The upcoming woody release has packages for everything I need save two items in PPP. These are MPPE and stripping of the MS Domain in CHAP authentications. I have the p

Re: [OT] rearranging data files

2002-06-06 Thread Andrew Perrin
Well I felt like procrastinating today, so here's a solution: #!/usr/local/bin/perl # pivot.pl - turn rows into columns while (<>) { chomp; s/^\s+//; push(@rows, [split(/\s+/,$_)]); } shift(@$_) for @rows; print join("\t", map(shift(@$_), @rows)), "\n" while (@{$rows[0]}); Note that

Re: mozilla 1.0

2002-06-06 Thread DvB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeronimo Pellegrini) writes: > > According to a comment on DP.org, the security patches will be applied > > to the version currently in woody (0.9.9, I think) instead of uploading > > a whole new version. > > What about non-security fixes? There was a lot of bug-fixing before >

Woody and Xfree86 (v4)?

2002-06-06 Thread Dave Price
I am sett ng up woody on a laptop for the first time: I initially apt-get installed xserver-xfree86 I did not have a startx script but 'X' appeared to start the server. with a vesa server selected, i get an x desktop with horking mouse (pointer moves) but no window manager I installed xfonts-

Re: Ethereal rights

2002-06-06 Thread Joseph Dane
> "Jeff" == Jeff Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jeff> I try to capture traffic with ethereal and I dont have the Jeff> permissions for the device. sou i try to run it from a root Jeff> console and X cannot open display. one way of doing this is * as non-root owner of the X session,

Re: What is the kernel option for the mii module.

2002-06-06 Thread Seneca
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 12:18:33PM -0400, Robert Mosher wrote: > I am working on making a custom kernel, and want to install the mii > module, but I can't find the option anywhere using 'make xconfig'. I've > looked through the config file of another kernel I have installed with > the module, bu

[OT] rearranging data files

2002-06-06 Thread Joerg Johannes
Hi list At university, we have an old spectro-photometer, that spits out its data in ASCII formatted files. The problem is, The data I get is sorted in lines rather than in columns (See examples below). Is there a progam (preferably command-line) that can do swap the rows to columns, and vice-v

Re: Still problems with event times in log files

2002-06-06 Thread D.J. Bolderman
I'm still experiencing wrong event times in my log files. When i do a "date" and a "date --utc" both times are correct. ie: 10:00 and 08:00. It seems that events are logged in UTC time. Where can I change this to my normal time ? Perhaps you have the TZ environment variable set locally?

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-06 Thread user list
Hi, I just thought I'd add my $.02, or what ever is the appropriate monetary conversion, in this inevitable discussion. First, I am a user. I write in fortran by choice, c and c++, in the past when I was teaching, by necessity. I am not a systems programmer so my contribution to Debian would, at

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-06 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Ivo Wever wrote: > If the other dists are so terrible that they can't even support the internet > connection of a small group of people for three hours a day, then why is > anyone using them and using them in a commercial environment at that? Fwiw, as well as a Debian develope

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Re: good Linux modems

2002-06-06 Thread Faheem Mitha
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > > Note this also supports the new V92 standard. It seems like a good modem. > > Any external modem would be Ok with Linux, but the USR models seem to be a > > good safe choice. > > USB too? > I remember having heard that USB modems were basically

Ethereal rights

2002-06-06 Thread Jeff Johnson
I try to capture traffic with ethereal and I dont have the permissions for the device. sou i try to run it from a root console and X cannot open display. I am thinking I should maybe add myself to some group or another. any ideas? Thanks -jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: the dreaded Word attachment

2002-06-06 Thread Jeff
Chris Halls, 2002-Jun-03 21:30 +0200: > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:37:45AM -0700, Jeff wrote: > > I use OpenOffice as well, but now and then I get a Word doc that > > crashes OpenOffice when opening. I then fire up VMWare and start > > Jeff, > > I don't have enough time to test every type of Wor

Locale Q:

2002-06-06 Thread Jeff Johnson
is it normal for locales to = POSIX for root and C for other users? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: KaZaA + Debian Woody + XP

2002-06-06 Thread Matias Hermanrud Fjeld
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 06 June 2002 20:23, csj wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:59:40 -0400 > > Oleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 06 June 2002 06:18 am, Fabian Dortu wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > you should consider to use GNUtella (http://www.gnutelli

Re: Debian on Dell PowerEdge 2500

2002-06-06 Thread Emil Pedersen
Paul Sargent wrote: > > Hi People, > > Has anybody had any experiance running Debian on a Dell PowerEdge 2500. > We've just bought one that has RedHat preinstalled on it, but I'm lothed to > administer RedHat (for one thing it installs so much cr*p that I really do > not want on a server), and so

Re: KaZaA + Debian Woody + XP

2002-06-06 Thread csj
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:59:40 -0400 Oleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 06 June 2002 06:18 am, Fabian Dortu wrote: > > Hi, > > > > you should consider to use GNUtella (http://www.gnutelliums.com) > > instead ! > > People, please stop with Gnutella already. Only a person who never used KaZ

Re: KDE3 in sid? (not OT)

2002-06-06 Thread Charles Lewis
> > Secondly, if it is "dependency hell" as you say, why are there working > > unofficial debs > > out there? > > > > chas > > > > I believe he was joking. kde3 depends on X4.2 which depends on woody > which depends on security infrastructure which depends and so on Doh! Don't I feel stupi

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-06 Thread Jeff
Petro, 2002-Jun-05 18:30 -0700: > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:56:43PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Them and everyone else it seems. I gotta wonder if anybody from > > California ever stopped to think that they're turning Oregon into what > > they moved away from... > > If they stopped to thi

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