Re: Foreign Language with OpenOffice?

2002-06-05 Thread Kent West
Petro wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 12:45:15PM -0500, Kent West wrote: Forgive my ignorance concerning internatialization . . . . At my university our Foreign Language department staff/faculty have traditionally used WordPerfect throughout the years, along with foreign language modules fr

Re: good Linux modems

2002-06-05 Thread Faheem Mitha
On 4 Jun 2002, Paul Miller wrote: > > Could someone recommend a good modem for linux? I'm looking for a PCI > modem with good voice and faxing capabilities. I'm thinking about USR's > 56K* V.92 Performance Pro Modem, anyone have experience with this modem? I recently bought an external USR 56

Re: Squid, Windows clients, RFC931, oh my.

2002-06-05 Thread Mike Egglestone
Hi, I'm not really sure if this is what you want. http://www.hacom.nl/~richard/software/smb_auth.html Cheers, Mike Quoting Peter Whysall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Here's the scenario. > > I have a Woody box running the Squid web proxy server, with the > oh-so-nifty Squidalyser log analyser doohi

Re: Debian GIS

2002-06-05 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 01:17:04PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 05 Jun 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote: > > Can anybody recomend a good GIS (Geographical Information System) > > package for debian? I did a quick search with 'apt-cache search GIS', > > but got a long list of unr

Smokeping / util

2002-06-05 Thread louie miranda
Hi, i installed smokeping, but could not figure how will it work. Help, is much appreciated.. ty, louie... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Changing virtual screen size

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 09:50:47PM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 05/06/02 Mark Roach did speaketh: > > > AFAIK the virtual size stays the same for the entire X session, only the > > viewable resolution is changable via the ctrl-alt-+/- key combo. Unless > > you have a need to change resolu

savings on printing

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Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Carl Fink
Someone posted that security updates can simply be downloaded from Sid and used with Woody. However, at least one package in unstable is already not installable on my Woody box, because a library has been upgraded in Sid. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager, Dueling Modems Comput

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 04:41:39PM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > It was not my intention to lead users astray, my intention was to enlighten > people to the fact that testing is, for the most part, not going to change. > The security fixes are flowing into sid. It's not a big trick to get not

Re: Foreign Language with OpenOffice?

2002-06-05 Thread Petro
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 12:45:15PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > Forgive my ignorance concerning internatialization . . . . > At my university our Foreign Language department staff/faculty have > traditionally used WordPerfect throughout the years, along with foreign > language modules from WordPerfe

Pcmcia-cs package

2002-06-05 Thread JimmyMah
Hi, I had installed Debian linux (potato version) on my NEC versa laptop together with the pcmcia-cs package. My Xircom pcmcia modem was recognised as ttys1 and I could connect to the internet. Later I install an external modem to a serial com port (ttys0) for internet connection and I removed th

Re: Downloading and installing woody

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 13:02, Francisco Fialho wrote: > I'm new to Debian, first heard about it at the Install Fest that took > place at Univeristy of Campinas ( one of brazilians top 3 ). > I downloaded it, and tried to install Debian 2.2rev6, but unsuccessfully. > I had problems with the network

Re: Changing virtual screen size

2002-06-05 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 05/06/02 Mark Roach did speaketh: > AFAIK the virtual size stays the same for the entire X session, only the > viewable resolution is changable via the ctrl-alt-+/- key combo. Unless > you have a need to change resolution on the fly a lot, you could create > two different scripts that invoke X

Re: open ports question

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 13:32, tvn1981 wrote: > > Hi, I have the following ports open and I am not sure what they are. > Whether or not they are really needed. My other Linux box (rh) doesn't > have these so I am wondering what these are in Debian > > 9/tcp opendiscard

Re: lilo and booting from /dev/hde question

2002-06-05 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya alice if you tried to boot from fd into /dev/hde1 and it didnt work... my guess is your mb doesnt support booting off drives hde-hdf-hdg-hdh... options are... - move /dev/hde to hdd or something lower... - reverse hda and hde on the drives ( controller cables ) - change the current hde:/

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Oleg
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 01:57 pm, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > > How does FreeBSD manage to stay reasonably secure and stable, yet modern > > (compared to Potato)? > > I think it's because they don't have a "zero-bugs" release policy like > Debian. The base system is stable. The stuff in the port

Re: Clear HDD of old OS, etc?

2002-06-05 Thread Petro
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:28:39AM -0600, Dave Price wrote: > Hi, > I am looking for a quick way to clear an HDD of old data, partitions, > etc. > I found this on /. thru a google search: > dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hdX > When i do this from a console shell after booting from a woody install > dis

Re: Changing virtual screen size

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 18:59, Ross Boylan wrote: > When I use ctl-alt-+ to cycle through the modes in XFree86 (v 4.1 on > woody) it does not change the virtual desktop size. So when I go from > 1152 x 864 to 1024 x 768 some of the virtual desktop doesn't fit, and > I have to scroll around. > > Is

partition problem

2002-06-05 Thread Henning, Brian
Hello- I am trying to use grub to boot my debian parition and it will not recognize /vmlinuz . This partition is ext2 on partition 8. The funny thing is when i did the install I did it on partition 12. I have a few other operating systems on this machine and that is why I have so many paritions. I

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-05 Thread Petro
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:56:43PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Them and everyone else it seems. I gotta wonder if anybody from > California ever stopped to think that they're turning Oregon into what > they moved away from... If they stopped to think, they wouldn't be the Californians that

Re: Squid, Windows clients, RFC931, oh my.

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 14:34, Peter Whysall wrote: > Here's the scenario. > > I have a Woody box running the Squid web proxy server, with the > oh-so-nifty Squidalyser log analyser doohickey and it's working fine, > serving Windows clients. The Boss is pleased. > > However there's a small fly in

lilo and booting from /dev/hde question

2002-06-05 Thread Alice M. Pinard
Yeah it's me again :) ok... got everything copied over to the new big disk on /dev/hde Next obstacle is there a way to use lilo to boot from /dev/hde when it's the only hard drive on the system without doing that ide=reverse line? I tried just setting the root to /dev/hde1 on a boot flop

Re: Desktop suitability (was Re: this post is not off-topic)

2002-06-05 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
> I'm not really concerned with how much geeks and developers like potato > for the simple reason that they (we) are capable of dealing with the > uncertainties of woody/sid and might even be willing to do the occasional > `./configure ; make ; make install` to get things that our distro(s) > of ch

Re: Changing virtual screen size

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 18:59, Ross Boylan wrote: > When I use ctl-alt-+ to cycle through the modes in XFree86 (v 4.1 on > woody) it does not change the virtual desktop size. So when I go from > 1152 x 864 to 1024 x 768 some of the virtual desktop doesn't fit, and > I have to scroll around. > > Is

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"David" == David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: synthespian> For one thing, it would be good to know what the users synthespian> think. Sure, >> If you say so. I am not sure I personally have much interest >> in the matter. David> For someone who claims to not have much interest in wh

Changing virtual screen size

2002-06-05 Thread Ross Boylan
When I use ctl-alt-+ to cycle through the modes in XFree86 (v 4.1 on woody) it does not change the virtual desktop size. So when I go from 1152 x 864 to 1024 x 768 some of the virtual desktop doesn't fit, and I have to scroll around. Is there a way to avoid this? I have added Vi

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Alan Shutko
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For the record, the number is currently 1073 (unless I made a mistake in > my database query). Of course, not all of those are active. Oh, that's the problem then. If we had 2000 developers, woody would have been out in half the time, right? ;^) -- A

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Joey Hess
Alan Shutko wrote: > (With 2000 developers, any unqualified statement is likely to be > false) I'm unsure where this 2000 developers number that I've seen floating around this list comes from. At last count, when we were preparing the release announcement, there were less than 1000, and of cou

persistent cookies in debian

2002-06-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I sent this question sometime last month but didn't see any replies. I don't know whether i didn't see the replies, nobody had an answer, or I asked a really dumb question. But dumb or not, I still don't have an answer so thought I'd try again. I am trying to set up persistent cookies with lynx. I

Re: new debian setup help requested

2002-06-05 Thread ben
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 04:21 pm, Tim -- Senior Technical Support, Earthlink. wrote: > New to debian, i'm faced with the challenge of installing debian tonite, > setting up a USB PPPoA Bellsouth.net adsl connection to be shared out via > ethernet card to a peer-to-peer network (static internal i

Re: Upgrade to Woody

2002-06-05 Thread Paladin
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 00:06:53 +0100 Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The output of 'apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes dist-upgrade' > will tell you exactly what apt-get is thinking, although it can be > rather cryptic if you've never seen it before. Funny... doing a dist-upgrade doe

Re: Question with $? in bash, with chains of commands

2002-06-05 Thread Mike Dresser
On 5 Jun 2002, Paul Smith wrote: > See the PIPESTATUS variable in the bash man page. > > Note that this is not a standard thing, so if you use it your script > may not be portable to other Bourne-like shells. Thank you ever so much smbtar -s $username -x $share -p $password -t - | gzip -1 > $fil

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Ivo Wever
Manoj wrote: Are you sure condescending means what you think it means? (Oh, BTW, that is me being condescending again). I don't consider that condescending. Condescending, in context, implied that I felt superior to the people I was talking to. There was no suggestion that any one el

new debian setup help requested

2002-06-05 Thread Tim -- Senior Technical Support, Earthlink.
New to debian, i'm faced with the challenge of installing debian tonite, setting up a USB PPPoA Bellsouth.net adsl connection to be shared out via ethernet card to a peer-to-peer network (static internal ip addresses and hub connectivity, windows platform workgroups) and i'm a little overwhelmed.

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 06:00:23PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: > (With 2000 developers, any unqualified statement is likely to be > false) For the record, the number is currently 1073 (unless I made a mistake in my database query). Of course, not all of those are active. -- Colin Watson

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread David Wright
> synthespian> For one thing, it would be good to know what the users > synthespian> think. Sure, > > If you say so. I am not sure I personally have much interest > in the matter. For someone who claims to not have much interest in what "the users" think, you sure spend a

Re: Desktop suitability (was Re: this post is not off-topic)

2002-06-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 04:39:06PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > Your audience is not me. For *me*, potato is too old for desktop use. ... > Your audience isn't a computer geek like me (who is also a developer) Thanks for the reply! You've got some great reasons for wanting something new

Re: Upgrade to Woody

2002-06-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:38:45PM -0700, Rick Commo wrote: > When you upgrade this way, does your kernel stay at the same level or > will you be prompted to upgrade to 2.4? (for the record, I would like > 2.4). Kernels are never upgraded automatically by the packaging system. You can choose to u

Re: Upgrade to Woody

2002-06-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 11:33:47PM +0100, Paladin wrote: > Just one problem: as soon as I do what you did I get a huge list of > packages that will be upgrade as well lots that will be removed. In the > last I are included some that I made myself (probably VERY bad! ;). I > didn't want this to happ

Re: Upgrade to Woody

2002-06-05 Thread Paladin
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 15:38:45 -0700 "Rick Commo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When you upgrade this way, does your kernel stay at the same level or > will you be prompted to upgrade to 2.4? (for the record, I would like > 2.4). It doesn't mention it! I don't think I have that packages instaled. No

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Ivo" == Ivo Wever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ivo> It is an unqualified statement indeed. I'm just exagerating Ivo> Manojs point and claim I understand it (because calling it Ivo> 'condescending' supposes that the majority of the society feels Ivo> that way and I want to make clear that at l

Re: How to install Debian from CD ROM

2002-06-05 Thread Robert Webb
Ok. I am in the process of installing Woody myself. I see where you are talking about. You are at the point in which the kernel and modules are installed from the cd. Just before you get to the module config. I have one question I can think of asking. That is when you boot the cd and you

Re: Disabling inetd altogether?

2002-06-05 Thread Jason Lunz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Then I think > > # update-rc.d -f inetd remove > > is the neater solution. Actually, no. While that'd work, the next package upgrade will restore the symlinks. You want to leave the K links alone, and just disable the S links. This is in the update-rc.d manpage:

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Alan Shutko
ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > please stop propogating the rumor that manoj said that he didn't care about > the users. read the full thread. I wasn't. I was responding to the post I quoted. Apologies if it was too subtle. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! May

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Carlos Sousa
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:22:53 -0500 "Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 09:08:09 -0500 > "Manoj Srivastava" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd actually be in favour of dropping i386, most bugs and > > complaints seem to come from there; dropping i386 shall mak

RE: Upgrade to Woody

2002-06-05 Thread Rick Commo
When you upgrade this way, does your kernel stay at the same level or will you be prompted to upgrade to 2.4? (for the record, I would like 2.4). Cheers, -rick -Original Message- From: Paladin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:34 PM To: Joris Cc: debian-user@lis

Re: Possible anti-spam reject host

2002-06-05 Thread Walter Reed
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 10:25:09AM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > | Spam is not new. Everyone knows it's a problem. There is no excuse > | anymore to be ignorant. > > I recently learned something about open relays. Installing anti-virus > software (eg Norton) on your MS server (that isn't

Re: fonts in Star Office

2002-06-05 Thread Florentin Ionescu
Try spadmin -> fonts -> add It worked for me. On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, user list wrote : » Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 14:26:50 -0600 » From: user list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> » To: debian-user@lists.debian.org » Subject: fonts in Star Office » Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 14:05:22 -0700 » Resent-From: debian-

Re: Missing (kernel) modules

2002-06-05 Thread Glen Lee Edwards
Joris wrote: I have Woody installed with the 2.2-20 kernel. I apt-get installed the 2.4.18 kernel for both k7 and i686. Both installed ok, but both hung on boot, stating that the root file system couldn't be mounted. this is because those kernel images use initial ramdisks (initrd) as root

RE: jigdo-easy /woody

2002-06-05 Thread Rick Commo
Andrej, Thanks the info. Yes, jigdo-easy is indeed for windows. I am running potato and tried to install the jigdo deb and got a number of dependencies. When I tried to install a couple of the packages apt-get claimed that it didn't know about them; and I didn't want to make a hybrid installatio

Re: Upgrade to Woody

2002-06-05 Thread Paladin
On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 17:21:37 +0200 "Joris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > # nano /etc/apt/sources.list (change stable to woody/testing) > # apt-get update > # apt-get install apt apt-utils dpkg debconf > # apt-get -dy dist-upgrade (just download, doesn't require > # interference) apt-get dist-u

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Alan" == Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alan> Maybe the developers should amend the Social Contract to make this Alan> more explicit? At least in the vote, it would become clear to what Alan> degree that statement is true or untrue. Ah, yes, the social contract argument.

Mgetty - Dial-in Server - LAN access -- HELP

2002-06-05 Thread curtis
OK, I have gotten mgetty & pppd to permit me to dial in and authenticate on my server (see previous posts for further details). However, an obvious reason why I can access other computers on the LAN would seem to be this: Our network structure is 10.0.0.1-254, netmask 255.255.255.0 (BTW, isn'

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Ivo Wever
Alan Shutko wrote: Ivo Wever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And, as he said: he doesn't care. Doesn't care because no > developers will leave and the users leaving doesn't endanger > the existance of Debian; in essence the developers are making > it for themselves. Maybe the developers should am

Re: Question with $? in bash, with chains of commands

2002-06-05 Thread Paul Smith
%% Mike Dresser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: md> Here's a code fragment i'm trying to work on in bash md> The problem is, $? reports the result of the last command, which md> is gzip, which will ALWAYS report 0(well, unless the hd is full or md> the moon is full), Yes. The definition of

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread ben
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 03:00 pm, Alan Shutko wrote: > Ivo Wever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > And, as he said: he doesn't care. Doesn't care because no > > developers will leave and the users leaving doesn't endanger > > the existance of Debian; in essence the developers are making > > it for

Re: open ports question

2002-06-05 Thread ben
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 02:57 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 02:32:00PM -0400, tvn1981 wrote: > > 9/tcp opendiscard > > Not sure myself... > $ cat //etc/services| grep 9/tcp discard 9/tcp sink n

Re: Mgetty - Dial-in Server

2002-06-05 Thread curtis
OK, I've finally gotten my dial-in server to authenticate. Now I need to gain access to another computer inside our network. Brian mentioned ip forwarding. Is this what I need? Or is there something else at work here? Curtis Henning, Brian wrote: Hello- one thing you may need is to do is ena

Re: Global variables

2002-06-05 Thread Carlos Sousa
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:38:10 +0200 Nicos Gollan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 05 June 2002 02:11, Carlos Sousa wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 00:09:42 -0500 dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ... > > > Yes -- the problem is the user's .profile doesn't source the > > > system one. It

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Alan Shutko
Ivo Wever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And, as he said: he doesn't care. Doesn't care because no > developers will leave and the users leaving doesn't endanger > the existance of Debian; in essence the developers are making > it for themselves. Maybe the developers should amend the Social Contr

Re: open ports question

2002-06-05 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 02:32:00PM -0400, tvn1981 wrote: > 9/tcp opendiscard Not sure myself... > 13/tcp opendaytime > 37/tcp opentime

Re: restart all services?

2002-06-05 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 01:47:38PM -0700, justin cunningham wrote: > Is there a way to restart all services at once instead of individually? shutdown now When it asks for root password, hit EOF. - -- Baloo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: G

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Ivo Wever
Ian D. Stewart wrote: While stating that you don't give a rip about the users may be intelectually honest, one should not be surprised when such statements endanger userbase loyalty. And, as he said: he doesn't care. Doesn't care because no developers will leave and the users leaving doesn't e

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Wednesday, June 5, Jeronimo Pellegrini did write: > > > To me, the best solution to this would be to customize the tagline on > > > each outgoing message, so that it would read something like "you are > > > subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED], to remove send a message _from that > > > address_

RE: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
| Uh huh. And get cracked tomorrow because security updates are *not* | being made for woody at this time. There is a list of approximately a | dozen *known* security problems with woody that will be dealt with | *later*. Updates are not propogating from sid to woody at all right | now, even for

Re: Desktop suitability (was Re: this post is not off-topic)

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 11:23:02AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: | On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 01:15:45AM -0300, synthespian wrote: | > You can't use Potato for a desktop (to outdated) and you remain in this | > security limbo... | | | | Why does everyone keep repeating this "potato is too old to

Question with $? in bash, with chains of commands

2002-06-05 Thread Mike Dresser
Here's a code fragment i'm trying to work on in bash I'm pulling a backup, and if smbtar aborts for whatever reason, I need to know not to rotate the backup. smbtar -s $username -x $share -p $password -t - | gzip -1 > $filename.tar.gz if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then # rotate the backup; fi;

RE: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
| Are you really named "Brooks Robinson" or is that a nom du net? Yes this is my true and given name. Long story short: my brother was a fan, my mom agreed to something she never thought would happen | > My conclusion is that Woody is effectively released already. | | So, Woody changed to a 2.4

Re: Upgrade to Woody

2002-06-05 Thread David Z Maze
"D.J. Bolderman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > seb bastos wrote: >> in'st it the 'stable' field to be replace by 'testing'??? >> > No. There are 3 options. Stable, Unstable and Testing. You can also refer to a release by name. So if you say "potato", you'll get stable now and won't get auto-upda

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 07:38:39AM -0700, Walter Reed wrote: > > I would just like to point out the legal saying that "big cases make bad > > law." We're all irritated by one moron's behavior; that's not necessarily > > an argument for significant technical or policy changes. By all > > indicatio

Re: Update - RE: rc.local in debian (was: Ip Masquerading)

2002-06-05 Thread David Z Maze
"Ronald Castillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just to update something new I have found out.. I tried pinging my ADSL > router and my brother´s PC from my Linux box and it doesn't work either, > but it did work from my Windows PC when I had it connected directly to > my ADSL router. So, now I'm f

Re: where to RTFM: Allowing remote X?

2002-06-05 Thread Michael Jinks
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 10:52:44PM +0200, Rico -mc- Gloeckner wrote: > # vi /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc Aha! Yes, I had the "nolisten" directive set. The manpage I needed to read was Xserver(1) -- I'd been looking at X(7) and xauth(1). Thanks! -mrj -- # Michael Jinks, IB # JFI/MRSEC/E

Re: where to RTFM: Allowing remote X?

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:37:06PM -0500, Michael Jinks wrote: | Hi, all. | | I often have to debug X-based apps for my users. In order to be able to | run the app as the user, I need to be able to accept X connections on my | desktop from their account on some other machine. On non-Debian syste

Getting off the list

2002-06-05 Thread user list
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 07:23:44PM +0200, prover wrote: > I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). > > WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? > EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. reply with unsubscr

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 02:14:14PM -0300, Michel Loos wrote: | You have 2 stable releases which are up-to-date: | woody and sid | They are perfectly stable, but the distribution is changing | just like the RedHat distribution is changing every few weeks, | the only difference is that they call

Including external modules in initrd

2002-06-05 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Greetings, I'm building a beowulf whose nodes have Intel gigabit NICs, whose drivers are not in the stock kernel. So, I got the e1000 driver (and debianized it, but haven't ITPd or uploaded yet), and would like to use it for nfs-root. The problem is, I can't get this module into the initrd.

Re: where to RTFM: Allowing remote X?

2002-06-05 Thread Rico -mc- Gloeckner
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:37:06PM -0500, Michael Jinks wrote: > I recognize that xset is a security hole, but is there some way to turn > that functionality back on? Or, what's the "right" way to do what I > want, using xauth or whatever? # vi /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc I assume you fi

Re: Disabling inetd altogether?

2002-06-05 Thread Stefan Bellon
Mike Dresser wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Stefan Bellon wrote: > > I'm running unstable and I'd like to ask, what is the recommended > > way of disabling inetd altogether without having to deinstall > > netbase as well (as it depends on netkit-inetd). I'm well aware > > that I can disable every se

Re: Disabling inetd altogether?

2002-06-05 Thread Stefan Bellon
Michael Jinks wrote: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 10:25:28PM +0200, Stefan Bellon wrote: [snip] > > Is there any recommendation of how to turn inetd off? Or should I > > use update-rc.d and remove the symlinks to /etc/init.d/inetd? Is > > there no neater way? > I don't know how much neater you want

restart all services?

2002-06-05 Thread justin cunningham
Is there a way to restart all services at once instead of individually? Thanks, Justin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Disabling inetd altogether?

2002-06-05 Thread Michael Jinks
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 04:37:28PM -0400, Mike Dresser wrote: > how about an exit 0, in the top of /etc/init.d/inetd after shutting it > off? This will work, but it can cause confusion in the future, especially if somebody else takes over as admin on the box. They'll see inetd configured to start

Re: Missing (kernel) modules

2002-06-05 Thread Glen Lee Edwards
Peter Whysall wrote: on Wed, Jun 05, 2002, Glen Lee Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have Woody installed with the 2.2-20 kernel. I apt-get installed the 2.4.18 kernel for both k7 and i686. Both installed ok, but both hung on boot, stating that the root file system couldn't be mounted.

Re: Debian: abandon ship? Not me!

2002-06-05 Thread B. L. Jilek
Hi Stephen! On Wed, 05 Jun 2002, Stephen Ryan wrote: > On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 13:32, John Schmidt wrote: > > > I certainly appreciate the multiple architecture support of Debian. I > > have it installed on a powerpc, m68k, and x86 box. I initially > > installed it on my m68k box, since Debian

Re: Disabling inetd altogether?

2002-06-05 Thread Michael Jinks
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 10:25:28PM +0200, Stefan Bellon wrote: > > I'm well aware that I can disable > every service in the /etc/inetd.conf file, but why have it running > then? No reason at all. :) > Is there any recommendation of how to turn inetd off? Or should I > use update-rc.d and remove

fonts in Star Office

2002-06-05 Thread user list
I have been reading the threads on fonts on this list. My problem seems similar, yet different. Star Office doesn't find many of the standard fonts, including coates/home/edwardsa>Failed to load font "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--19-0-0-0-p-*-iso8859-1" Please verify your fontpath settings

Re: howto install from Internet

2002-06-05 Thread David Wright
> I donot wish to down/burn any *iso. Many persecs ago it was possible > to just make 2 floppies and, directly connected to the Internet, > install the whole Debian. While I already perused the debian.org site, > I found not the necessary directions on how to make the boot/root > flopies to instal

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Noah" == Noah Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Noah> On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 02:47:59PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Indeed, the security team indicated that potato support would >> have to be dropped summarily when woody was released _unless_ changes >> were made (or a decision w

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Glen Lee Edwards
Ivo Wever wrote: Manoj wrote: > What the non free world does, or does not do, does not > affect release decisions for Debian. We release when we are ready. We > are not yet ready. Period. I think what some people fear is that this implementation of the Debian philosophy might prove self

cdrom: "Media not found"

2002-06-05 Thread Tom Schuetz
Hi, i'm running Potato 2.2.17. My cdrom stopped working yesterday, for no apparent reason. The error messages vary. Usually, it's "No media found" but sometimes it says something about a bad superblock and trying to mount a logical drive. I'm stumped on how to remedy this. I've tried both ho

Re: Disabling inetd altogether?

2002-06-05 Thread Mike Dresser
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Stefan Bellon wrote: > Hi! > > I'm running unstable and I'd like to ask, what is the recommended way > of disabling inetd altogether without having to deinstall netbase as > well (as it depends on netkit-inetd). I'm well aware that I can disable > every service in the /etc/inet

where to RTFM: Allowing remote X?

2002-06-05 Thread Michael Jinks
Hi, all. I often have to debug X-based apps for my users. In order to be able to run the app as the user, I need to be able to accept X connections on my desktop from their account on some other machine. On non-Debian systems, I've always been able to do the old quick and dirty "xset +" to allow

Squid, Windows clients, RFC931, oh my.

2002-06-05 Thread Peter Whysall
Here's the scenario. I have a Woody box running the Squid web proxy server, with the oh-so-nifty Squidalyser log analyser doohickey and it's working fine, serving Windows clients. The Boss is pleased. However there's a small fly in the ointment. Squid can look up RFC931 idents from clients.

Re: DNS resolution problem

2002-06-05 Thread Glen Lee Edwards
George Karaolides wrote: Hi, I have a really strange DNS resolution problem. I have set up and configured a Debian woody box as a gateway and firewall for an internal network connected to the Internet via ADSL. I use the Debian ipmasq package for this. The ISP assigns an IP address to the et

Disabling inetd altogether?

2002-06-05 Thread Stefan Bellon
Hi! I'm running unstable and I'd like to ask, what is the recommended way of disabling inetd altogether without having to deinstall netbase as well (as it depends on netkit-inetd). I'm well aware that I can disable every service in the /etc/inetd.conf file, but why have it running then? Is there a

Re: ISA network card

2002-06-05 Thread Rainer Ellinger
Nick Traxler wrote: > I got the value 0x340 through trial and error. All the others fail > the initial ne2000 probe. > dsl-093-a:~# ne2k-diag -p 0x340 You've also tried ne2k-diag without any option? > Winbond W89C905F. I wasn't able to locate that chip on the Winbond > site. However, most of the

Re: Debian: abandon ship? Not me!

2002-06-05 Thread Stephen Ryan
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 13:32, John Schmidt wrote: > I certainly appreciate the multiple architecture support of Debian. I > have it installed on a powerpc, m68k, and x86 box. I initially > installed it on my m68k box, since Debian was the only distribution > that supported it. I made the swit

Re: Possible anti-spam reject host

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:53:58PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: | On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 12:02:34AM -0500, dman wrote: | > sa-exim :-). | > | > http://marc.merlins.org/linux/exim/sa.html | | Whoa! That should be a Debian package (maybe the default MTA). I just thought I'd announce some addre

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Ian" == Ian D Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> And yes, I do find it condescending. Particularly the reference to Ian> 'unwashed masses' and the general attitude of 'I have done this thing Ian> because it pleases me. You should be content that I allow you to Ian> benefit from my l

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 12:13:37PM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: | On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:51:33 -0500 | "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > Actually, it's really easy to blackhole their messages on your end. | > From your POV it's basically the same thing (apart from bandwidth

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 09:08:09AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: | >>"David" == David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | David> Woody, however, is supposed to support 11 arches to potato's | David> 6. One could drop the 5 new arches without encountering this | David> problem. Would droppin

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