Re: How to get addressbook working with tk8.2 and tk8.3 installed -fyi

2001-03-29 Thread shaulka
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 03:17:13PM -0700, Jimmy Richards wrote: > Hello, > > Several days ago someone was getting an error message trying to run > addressbook. I just wanted to let anyone who wanted to get it running how to > do so. Just run this command and it should work > > update-altern

Re: ssh problem

2001-03-29 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 11:59:13AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > can anyone explain why this isn't working? i'm trying to ssh into > pc10.cs.ucdavis.edu. here is output using the verbose switch. it looks > like the remote host hangs up when it's supposed to give the serv

Re: How hard get high res working?

2001-03-29 Thread Dave Carrigan
Jonathan Gift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm running 1152x864 on a 17 inch right now but am playing around with > getting and running a 21 inch. I would probably like 1600x1200 on that > but heard XFree has limits around 1200 lines? Is that true and how does > one get around it? I'm running 16

Re: pyton & perl

2001-03-29 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 11:17:50PM +0200, Carel Fellinger wrote: > > I don't think Python assumes the coder is a moron, nor does Eiffel, > nor do you judging from your fine pigs-fly-just-fine quote . > But I wonder what things you have in mind when you state that Python > tie's your hands compared

Re: "activating" changes to /etc/group

2001-03-29 Thread Barry Mathieu
Try issuing the command, 'update-passwd' as root. Seems to work for me for updating group status without logging-in & out. Barry On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 11:59:20PM -0600, DvB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I decided to take the more elegant approach to getting sound working > than making /dev/dsp

Re: Installation of third party software under Debian

2001-03-29 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:34:39AM -0500, Shawn Garbett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I've just downloaded IBM's java for linux, Star Office and VmWare. Three > tools I use regularly while doing my work. Not that I choose these, they > just fit with the group I work with and I make a living wit

Re: newbie-esque: how to cut & paste?

2001-03-29 Thread Erik Steffl
will trillich wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 02:56:52PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: > > will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > okay, i'm at the console > > > > Middle-click only works on a 3-button mouse in gpm... I don't think it > > does chording. You can tell it whether you have a 2

Re: webmin?

2001-03-29 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Nate Amsden wrote: > i don't think you are..i don't remember it but doing a search turns up this on > debian-devel: > http://webhotel.mit-inter.net/debian-devel/00/09/2063.html > > so maybe ask that guy what happened to it. That guy was all set to finally upload webmin when

Re: [OT] running a PIII with no fan?

2001-03-29 Thread Christopher Mosley
On 29 Mar 2001, Krzys Majewski wrote: > Oliver Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 11:19:19PM -0800, Krzys Majewski wrote: > > > Noise. > > > -chris > > > > You might want to look at http://www.quietpc.com . They claim their CPU > > fans are practically inaudible.

URGENT

2001-03-29 Thread mathieu cupryk
Hi my name is matt,   I have a problem with running my perl scripts on netscape on linux redhat 7.0. I am using apache that comes as the web server. They run, but when I try to connect to the DB2 with the brower (netscape) I cannot. But if I am not xwindows. I can connect to the database. I

Re: newbie-esque: how to cut & paste?

2001-03-29 Thread will trillich
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 02:56:52PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: > will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > okay, i'm at the console > > Middle-click only works on a 3-button mouse in gpm... I don't think it > does chording. You can tell it whether you have a 2 or 3 button > mouse... check the d

more than 3 buttons in X?

2001-03-29 Thread Jonathan Markevich
I have a Microsoft Optical mouse, with 5 buttons. I'm running X 4.0.x, is there support for using all of them? I have "7" buttons set up in config, but I'm not sure how to tell it what I want them to do. Thanks. -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich Lif

Re: ssh2 <--> openssh public key authentication

2001-03-29 Thread Alan Shutko
Rob Mahurin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Answered my own question: I needed to have the line > "IdentityFile /home/alphenglor/.ssh/id_dsa", since .ssh/config doesn't > have access to the value of HOME. It seems to work with ~, though. My .ssh/config uses ~/.ssh... and works fine. -- Alan Sh

Re: [OT] running a PIII with no fan?

2001-03-29 Thread Krzys Majewski
Oliver Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 11:19:19PM -0800, Krzys Majewski wrote: > > Noise. > > -chris > > You might want to look at http://www.quietpc.com . They claim their CPU > fans are practically inaudible. I ordered a SilentDrive enclosure from them > and I'm v

Re: webmin?

2001-03-29 Thread Nate Amsden
"Paul D. Smith" wrote: > > I could have sworn that I saw a Debian package of webmin before, but now > it doesn't show up in my database with apt-cache search, nor does it > appear in a search of the Debian packages on www.debian.org. > > Did I imagine this? If it went away, is there any interest

Re: OT : Anti Virus Software for Linux

2001-03-29 Thread Nate Amsden
Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: > > Hi Nate, > What mcaffe product do you use? > Does it work in Debian? > We want to implement some AV in a debian mail potato server. > Thanks, PH I use mcafee virusscan for linux. the only downside is it

Re: OT : Anti Virus Software for Linux

2001-03-29 Thread Nate Amsden
Joris Lambrecht wrote: > > Sorry 'bout all that commercial spam people (i'll try to cut on sendin' > hyperlinks) > > ?? never heard/read anything about mcafee linux soft > AVP is Fsecure is AVP (from what i understand they're cross licensing) > never heard of sophos but in an article mcafee for

Re: ssh2 <--> openssh public key authentication

2001-03-29 Thread Rob Mahurin
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 02:19:16PM -0500, Rob Mahurin wrote: > On peon I have: > .ssh/config containing PubkeyAuthentication yes > and IdentityFile $HOME/.ssh/id_dsa Answered my own question: I needed to have the line "IdentityFile /home/alphengl

Re: webmin?

2001-03-29 Thread Darryl N . Grant
I am running potato and dpkg -l '*webmin*' did not return anything. On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:46:03PM -0500, Paul D. Smith wrote: > I could have sworn that I saw a Debian package of webmin before, but now > it doesn't show up in my database with apt-cache search, nor does it > appear in a search

gnome-help error?

2001-03-29 Thread Chun Kit Edwin Lau
Hi everyone, Don't know if this is any error, but when I was trying to upgrade gnome-help to 1.4-2. the instalation script said the postinst is a directory and permission denied. is this a bug or just me? Edwin Lau ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: enlightenment deb repository?

2001-03-29 Thread DvB
>I did notice, however, that installing E 0.16.5-3 didn't remove the >0.16.5-1 package that I already had installed... shouldn't it've done >this? >The theme packages did replace their .5-1 counterparts... Never mind... it was the enlightenment-data package and not enlightnment (my terminal

webmin?

2001-03-29 Thread Paul D. Smith
I could have sworn that I saw a Debian package of webmin before, but now it doesn't show up in my database with apt-cache search, nor does it appear in a search of the Debian packages on www.debian.org. Did I imagine this? If it went away, is there any interest by anyone in reviving it as a packa

Re: Long delay between xdm and X startup

2001-03-29 Thread Erik Steffl
Christian Pernegger wrote: > After an /etc/init.d/xdm start nothing happens for 30-40 seconds, only > then X starts and the gdm login prompt pops up. startx works instantly, > no delay if I use gdm. grep urandom /etc/X11/xdm/* replace /dev/urandom by /dev/mem not sure if it's a good idea o

RE: Gnome Sound

2001-03-29 Thread Rick Commo
The good news is I fired up the box after being away from it for a few days and logged in as rick. Lo and behold event-sounds! The bad(ish) news is that I don't know *why* unless perhaps there is a difference twixt being logged in as root vs. user. Or perhaps all that was needed was one more reb

Relaying out my partitions

2001-03-29 Thread Rick Commo
I want to change my Linux system from "current" layout to "final" layout, shown below. Debian is what I will go into the future with and this final layout makes more sense to me. +--+---+-+ | part | current | final | | | layout| layout | +--+---+-

Sawfish meta binding

2001-03-29 Thread Peter Eckersley
Hi, I just upgraded from an old helix version of sawfish to the current sawfish-gnome in sid. That's all fine, except for one problem... helix had this really handy binding for the meta (windows) key - the left mouse button would move a window, and the middle one would allow you to change its att

Re: enlightenment deb repository?

2001-03-29 Thread DvB
Rafael A . Schmitt wrote: > * DvB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> Does anyone know of an enlightenment deb repository I can add to >> /etc/apt/sources.list? > > > deb http://people.debian.org/~ljlane/downloads potato/ > > |*--=[ Rafael Alexandre Schmitt ]=--*| > |

RE: XFree86 4.0.2 in Debian

2001-03-29 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 30-Mar-2001 Bill White wrote: > What is the easiest way to upgrade to X 4.0.2 or 4.0.3 for a > Debian system. I need to upgrade to an X version which has > support for a Voodoo5, and I can't seem to find a set of > sources from XFree86 or the DRI project which will build. > upgrade to woody

XFree86 4.0.2 in Debian

2001-03-29 Thread Bill White
What is the easiest way to upgrade to X 4.0.2 or 4.0.3 for a Debian system. I need to upgrade to an X version which has support for a Voodoo5, and I can't seem to find a set of sources from XFree86 or the DRI project which will build. Thanks. -- Call me Svejk. [EMAIL PROTECTED] G

Re: My printer prints blank pages all the time

2001-03-29 Thread Thomas J. Hamman
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 04:45:02PM +0100, David Wright wrote: > That won't necessarily help as the print job isn't all in its memory, > it's being sent from the computer's print queue. You should remove > the job(s) from the printer queue (lprm). I should have mentioned this in my first post, but.

Re: Wisdom of mixing stable + unstable/testing?

2001-03-29 Thread CaT
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 11:33:15AM +1000, Charles Thornhill-Cole wrote: > There are a couple of packages from unstable and testing that I would > like to use on a production server running stable. Should I just > compile them and play it safe? apt-get -b source has been my friend for a while now.

RE: Wisdom of mixing stable + unstable/testing?

2001-03-29 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 30-Mar-2001 Charles Thornhill-Cole wrote: > Hi, > > If one were to install the libc6 package from unstable on top of a stable > install, would it break things? how badly? > > There are a couple of packages from unstable and testing that I would like to > use on a production server running sta

Wisdom of mixing stable + unstable/testing?

2001-03-29 Thread Charles Thornhill-Cole
Hi,   If one were to install the libc6 package from unstable on top of a stable install, would it break things? how badly?   There are a couple of packages from unstable and testing that I would like to use on a production server running stable. Should I just compile them and play it safe?  

Re: exim: daemon vs. inetd

2001-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 04:51:22PM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 11:44:50AM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote: > > I was wondering if their were any security benefits/pitfalls exiting > > between running exim through inetd or running it as a standalone daemon. > > I believe the

Long delay between xdm and X startup

2001-03-29 Thread Christian Pernegger
Hi! After an /etc/init.d/xdm start nothing happens for 30-40 seconds, only then X starts and the gdm login prompt pops up. startx works instantly, no delay if I use gdm. During the gap, xdm shows up in ps but no other (related) stuff. This happens on a i386/P2-400 SMP and a powerpc/G3-366. I p

Re: Printer reccommendation

2001-03-29 Thread Christian Pernegger
> I've a Lexmark Optra E412 on a potato server and I like it a lot. Sorry, E312 I mean. Shouldn't post that late. The E412 is hardly budget :-) Christian

Re: Printer reccommendation

2001-03-29 Thread Christian Pernegger
> I know this is way off topic, but can anyone reccomend a budget printer with > good linux (and debianised) support? I've a Lexmark Optra E412 on a potato server and I like it a lot. The fact that it does postscript makes it quite *NIX friendly aut-of-the-box. You can rip the .ppd file out of a

Re: woody upgrade = no startx

2001-03-29 Thread Nick
Didn't help tried dpkg-reconfigure deamon:# startx bash: startx: command not found deamon# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-svga could not autodetect X server: discover not found On Thursday 29 March 2001 00:14, Jimmy Richards wrote: > Hi Nick, > > You can try dpkg-reconfigure dpkg-reconfigure debc

Apache mod_perl + mod_cgi in same directory

2001-03-29 Thread Robert A. Jacobs
Is it possible to enable CGIs (shell scripts, C/C++ apps, etc.) and CGI perl-scripts to both operate out of the same directory? I know you can do this if you add ".pl" to the list of extensions approved under the handler "cgi-script"...what I want to be able to do is have perl-scripts handled by

RE: XFree86 4.0.2 and Gnome 1.2 debs + Debian 2.2r2

2001-03-29 Thread Price, Tim
Check out the unofficial apt-sources list. http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/apt-sources/ It has loads of sid/woody stuff recompiled for potato - some of it by debian developers. Enjoy! Tim > -Original Message- > From: D-Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 30 March

Re: Daemon mgmt was Re: turning off /sbin/portmap

2001-03-29 Thread Rick Rezinas
just about that ;) when entering a runlevel, the daemon basically goes through each file in /etc/rcx.d that starts with S and runs it like this: S90startstuff start note the start argument. Then when leaving it does the same thing with the K's saying stop. They are run in numerical order, s

Re: q: apt-get - is there a way to limit the download width?

2001-03-29 Thread Christian Pernegger
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:28:13PM +0200, Matthias Wieser wrote: > i have a isdn dialup and want just to use 4 kb for the apt-get. is there > a way to limit the download to some bandwidth? iproute2 and tc (traffic control) should be able to do that, see the Advanced Routing HOWTO on www.ldp.at and

X Problems

2001-03-29 Thread David Densmore
I installed a bunch of packages from sid because I wanted to run gnapster-gtk 1.4.2-0.1. I managed to get all of the packages installed and configured, including Gnapster, but I broke X in the process. When I try to start X I get this message: X: /etc/X11/X points back to X wrapper executable, a

Re: cdrecord does not accept /dev output files?

2001-03-29 Thread eric
Alson van der Meulen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 02:48:01PM -0700, eric wrote: > > Alson van der Meulen wrote: > > > > > > I have a cdrw, I use cdrecord dev=0,0,0 blank=allsome.iso > > > > put in a cdrw disk may with some data in it > > > > after it burn, I can not access it, > > > > wr

Re: cdrecord does not accept /dev output files?

2001-03-29 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 02:48:01PM -0700, eric wrote: > Alson van der Meulen wrote: > > > > I have a cdrw, I use cdrecord dev=0,0,0 blank=allsome.iso > > > put in a cdrw disk may with some data in it > > > after it burn, I can not access it, > > > wrong fs type when I click desktop's cdrom i

kppp breaks pon

2001-03-29 Thread John Hasler
paul taylor writes: > Is there any way to repair pon?? Running pppconfig (as root) and recreating your connection should do it. Let me know if that doesn't work. gpppon is a GUI front-end for pon/poff. I suggest that you try it. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill

kernel panic when boot 2.4.2

2001-03-29 Thread eric
I modify /etc/kernel-img.conf Do_Syslink / /boot/vmlinux and /boot/grub/menu.list (copy originally 's 2.2.18 4 line , replace to new image and vmlinuz) when I reboot, I see the new kernel on the list and chooing it but pretty soon me kernel panic need help sincere eric

[no subject]

2001-03-29 Thread paul taylor
When I installed kppp pon stopped working properly. I have dsl and for those frequent times when it goes out I use dialup. kppp dials but won't connect. pon used to dial and connect. Now pon does not dial. I have gotten some hints on writing new code on the kde reflector. HOWEVER, I am a desktop u

How to get addressbook working with tk8.2 and tk8.3 installed -fyi

2001-03-29 Thread Jimmy Richards
Hello, Several days ago someone was getting an error message trying to run addressbook. I just wanted to let anyone who wanted to get it running how to do so. Just run this command and it should work update-alternatives --config wish then pick wish8.2 FYI, Jimmy Richards

Re: Anyone successful w/Genpower & Tripp lite UPS?

2001-03-29 Thread John Kerr Anderson
I have successfully installed powstatd, and now have working UPS protection with the standard "Tripplite Internet Office 500 UPS" settings. Thank you. I have been fiddling with this thing for days without any luck (until now). On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > John Kerr Anderson

Re: Mail config for dial-up

2001-03-29 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 07:12:03PM +, Gudmundur Erlingsson,,, wrote: ... > So the question is: how are you (referring to more experienced users) doing > it? Is exim the way to go, since it is already there, or is there some > other, simpler solution? (remember that I *really* want to use Mutt:-

Re: Daemon mgmt was Re: turning off /sbin/portmap

2001-03-29 Thread Alan Chen
Ahh, update-rc.d was what I was thinking of when I typed update-alternatives. What the sequence number do? --- Rich Puhek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also look at the update-rc.d command (see man update-rc.d for > details). > That will allow you to do things like: > > update-rc.d postres start

Re: pyton & perl

2001-03-29 Thread Michael Soulier
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 03:36:40PM -0500, D-Man wrote: > > I agree, except for including Python in the school-marm category of > languages. About the only thing you can't do in python (besides stomp > over random sections of memory without first making a C extension to > do it for you) is indent

Re: Daemon mgmt was Re: turning off /sbin/portmap

2001-03-29 Thread Jimmy Richards
Hi All, I responded to this question and said to use 'update-alternatives' myself. I meantupdate-rc.d. Doh! Jimmy Richards On Thursday 29 March 2001 14:25, Daniel Freedman wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001, Alan Chen wrote: > > Just as an excercise to my own sys admin knowledge, I'l

Re: Daemon mgmt was Re: turning off /sbin/portmap

2001-03-29 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 11:57:54AM -0800, Alan Chen wrote: ... > update-alternatives (or was it alternatives-update) is a admin tool for > adding, removing daemons from various runlevels. No, it is for managing Debian's alternatives sytem. Like whether vim, or vi or tiny-vi should be named vi. O

Re: exim: daemon vs. inetd

2001-03-29 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 11:44:50AM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote: > I was wondering if their were any security benefits/pitfalls exiting > between running exim through inetd or running it as a standalone daemon. I believe the only difference is that with daemon mode you're trading memory for startup o

Re: cdrecord does not accept /dev output files?

2001-03-29 Thread eric
Alson van der Meulen wrote: > > I have a cdrw, I use cdrecord dev=0,0,0 blank=allsome.iso > > put in a cdrw disk may with some data in it > > after it burn, I can not access it, > > wrong fs type when I click desktop's cdrom icon > try mount some.iso /mnt -o loop > this should mount the iso

[OT] spam filtering with exim

2001-03-29 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
I've been using exim as my MTA since it became the default Debian MTA. I have the following line in /etc/exim.conf: rbl_domains = rbl.maps.vix.com/reject : outputs.orbs.org/warn : \ spamsource-netblocks.orbs.org/reject : blackholes.mail-abuse.org/reject\ :relays.mail-abuse.org/warn : inputs.orbs.or

Whats wrong with my dependencies ?

2001-03-29 Thread Joerg Jaspert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All What does apt-get mean if he says this: [Some large error text] fidoconf: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.2-2) but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed Break: Error, could not install It depends on libc6 >= 2.2.2-2 and 2.2.2-4 is installed, so whats the problem

Re: Still no luck with KDE and woody.

2001-03-29 Thread Jimmy Richards
Hello Ian, Sorry to say, but there is no 'task-kde' package for unstable. I argued a little bit with someone in IRC about there the 'task-*' stuff not being intended for use on 'unstable'. Maybe some of them do work.. but I don't think they are for unstable really. You have to install the sepe

Re: Daemon mgmt was Re: turning off /sbin/portmap

2001-03-29 Thread Daniel Freedman
Hi, On Thu, Mar 29, 2001, Alan Chen wrote: > Just as an excercise to my own sys admin knowledge, I'll summarize my > general knowledge and just ask if anyone has suggestions or differences > in my understanding. > > Daemons (or services) can be manually manipulated in debian using > /etc/init.d/

Re: pyton & perl

2001-03-29 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 02:37:18PM -0500, Michael Soulier wrote: > > In the long run, if you have a good group of coders, then languages that > assume the coder is a moron (Python, Java, Eiffel...) do nothing but tie one's > hands, IMHO. Hence the attraction of C, Perl, that let you do anythin

reinstalling all packages

2001-03-29 Thread Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar
Hello, i tried to reinstall all packages I have installed due to some problems with disk I've had. now I'd like to know what tha F.CK is this... Installing /root/.profile from /usr/share/base-files/dot.profile ... Installing /root/.bashrc from /usr/share/base-files/dot.bashrc ... Creating /cdrom

Re: XFree86 4.0.2 and Gnome 1.2 debs + Debian 2.2r2

2001-03-29 Thread D-Man
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 05:08:04PM -0300, Ivens Porto wrote: | Anyone knows where i can get .debs of XFree86 4.0.2 and Gnome 1.2 to install | on a Debian 2.2r2 (potato)? sid. Does anyone know when they will make it into woody (I'm mostly interested in Gnome)? -D

Re: Daemon mgmt was Re: turning off /sbin/portmap

2001-03-29 Thread Rich Puhek
Also look at the update-rc.d command (see man update-rc.d for details). That will allow you to do things like: update-rc.d postres start 3 (start postres in runlevel 3) update-rc.d postres stop 50 6 (stop postres at sequence 50 in runlevel 6) --Rich Alan Chen wrote: > > Just as an excercis

Re: pyton & perl

2001-03-29 Thread D-Man
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 02:37:18PM -0500, Michael Soulier wrote: | On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 06:32:29PM +0200, Alexis Roda wrote: | > | > > Python is very OO while perl follows the more procedural traditions of | > > it's ancestors , sed awk sh and C. | > | > Perl allows one to write both procedura

q: apt-get - is there a way to limit the download width?

2001-03-29 Thread Matthias Wieser
i have a isdn dialup and want just to use 4 kb for the apt-get. is there a way to limit the download to some bandwidth? thanks - mattHias -- __ _ __ * /\_/\ \ \_/ \_/ / * Matthias Wieser * / \ \ /* ICQ#: 12597522 * /

Re: pyton & perl

2001-03-29 Thread D-Man
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 01:43:37PM -0500, Shawn Garbett wrote: | Maintenance issues aside, if you want an "empirical" study comparing | perl to python, as well as C/C++ and Java, check the following link: | http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de/cgi-bin/psview?document=/ira/2000/5 | It's the only article

Re: newbie-esque: how to cut & paste?

2001-03-29 Thread Erik Steffl
will trillich wrote: ... > okay, i'm at the console, in INSERT mode in vi, editing this > message. i select (via gpm i imagine) with left button and then > click both buttons (to emulate 3-button mouse): > > nothing. nada. goose egg. zilch. check the gpm docs to figure out how to either use the

Re: pyton & perl

2001-03-29 Thread D-Man
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:14:35PM +0400, Ilya Martynov wrote: | | D> | You can write obfuscated programs with any language, even with python. | D> | The programmer should use the language (any language, not just perl or | D> | python) resources judiciously to improve readability and | D> | mainta

XFree86 4.0.2 and Gnome 1.2 debs + Debian 2.2r2

2001-03-29 Thread Ivens Porto
Anyone knows where i can get .debs of XFree86 4.0.2 and Gnome 1.2 to install on a Debian 2.2r2 (potato)? Thanks, - Ivens Porto Diretor - Versatili Uberlandia - MG Tel.: (34) 3236-2191, ramal 31 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.versatili.com.br

Re: old debian with libc5

2001-03-29 Thread Andreas Rath
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2001 18:39 schrieb Colin Watson: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I need an old debian based in libv5, i don't know wich version of debian > > was the last based on this library. > >Has somebody a link to an iso-image for downloading? > >Or a ftp-server with old packages and a

Re: pyton & perl

2001-03-29 Thread Debian User
"Why I Promote Python" http://www.prescod.net/python/why.html by Paul Prescod, ISOGEN Consulting Engineer

ssh problem

2001-03-29 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
can anyone explain why this isn't working? i'm trying to ssh into pc10.cs.ucdavis.edu. here is output using the verbose switch. it looks like the remote host hangs up when it's supposed to give the server key. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ssh -v -l test pc10.cs.ucdavis.edu SSH Version OpenSSH_2.2.0p1,

Daemon mgmt was Re: turning off /sbin/portmap

2001-03-29 Thread Alan Chen
Just as an excercise to my own sys admin knowledge, I'll summarize my general knowledge and just ask if anyone has suggestions or differences in my understanding. Daemons (or services) can be manually manipulated in debian using /etc/init.d/ with the command start, stop, restart, etc.. This will

Re: pyton & perl

2001-03-29 Thread Michael Soulier
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 06:32:29PM +0200, Alexis Roda wrote: > > > Python is very OO while perl follows the more procedural traditions of > > it's ancestors , sed awk sh and C. > > Perl allows one to write both procedural and OO programs. Perl OO model > is very simple, flexible and powerful.

Re: newbie-esque: how to cut & paste?

2001-03-29 Thread Alan Shutko
will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > okay, i'm at the console Middle-click only works on a 3-button mouse in gpm... I don't think it does chording. You can tell it whether you have a 2 or 3 button mouse... check the docs for details. (I don't have gpm installed right now.) If you tell i

Re: K guys here's a new one for me....

2001-03-29 Thread Shawn Yarbrough
C Mead wrote: > as well whats the difference between > > /etc/init.d/networking restart and reload? > This applies to almost any script inside init.d, including /etc/init.d/networking: ./networking restart Does a "./networking stop" followed by a "./networking start". Effectively reinitializ

I dont have any /var/backups/dpkg.status.* files?

2001-03-29 Thread John Ericson
On Mar 29 01:31, Shaul Karl wrote: > You might start with examining /var/lib/dpkg/available* and > /var/backups/dpkg.status.* in order to determine what exactly were changed. Im following this thread since I myself is looking for a way to backtrack changes in the system done by APT and dpkg. I kno

Re: Upgrade advantage in Debian vrs. RedHat

2001-03-29 Thread Alan Shutko
Claudio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I guess Redhat will have something like that too (besides the Redhat > Network) since 'Mandrake update' is based on rpm's too. Well, they could. But they probably won't, or they would have left anonymous up2date on. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In

Re: newbie-esque: how to cut & paste?

2001-03-29 Thread will trillich
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:02:17PM +0200, Matthias Wieser wrote: > will trillich wrote: > > > > let's say you have debian potato running and all is right with > > the world. > > > > X (startx or via kdm) is lovely, and console/virtual terminals > > run flawlessly with gpm as well. > > > >... >

Still no luck with KDE and woody.

2001-03-29 Thread Ian Lee
I tried apt-get install task-kde/unstable   I got the error. E: Release 'unstable' for 'task-kde' not found.   I put a line to unstable in sources.list ans tried again. It then said I was missing packages and that the package was broken.   Can anyone help???   The source did not compile on my

ssh2 <--> openssh public key authentication

2001-03-29 Thread Rob Mahurin
Hello, I am trying to set up public-key authentication between a SunOS box ("larry") running ssh2 and a dialup Debian box ("peon") running potato with OpenSSH 1:2.5.2p2-1 compiled from sid. From larry, the SunOS box, I can do "ssh peon" without being prompted for a password; however, running "ssh

Re: need help with ncurses...

2001-03-29 Thread Juergen Fiedler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 29 March 2001 13:06, Jake R. Johnson wrote: > how do i install ncurses? Do an 'apt-cache search ncurses', pick out the latest version and 'apt-get install '. In unstable latest-version == libncurses5, in stable it might still be libncurs

Re: suidmanager / reconfiguring packages

2001-03-29 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach Peter S Galbraith (on Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:05:43PM -0500): > # cd /var/lib/dpkg/info > # egrep "^ +suidregister" *.postinst > /tmp/suidregister-script awesome. worked like a jiffy. god, i love debian! martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.

Re: retrieve ALL packages from a repository

2001-03-29 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 11:04:29AM -0600, MC_Vai ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi, > > I need to retrieve all packages from a given > repository (for a network installation). > > I've tried with: > % apt-get -d install '(.*)' You can't install everything. On a

Re: Java install problems

2001-03-29 Thread Juergen Fiedler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Actually, sun doesn't make a jvm for linux. Instead they signed an > NDA with the blackdown people, and the blackdown people make it > instead. If there is a link on sun's site (wasn't last time I > checked, but it's been a while) it is to the blac

Re: suidmanager / reconfiguring packages

2001-03-29 Thread Peter S Galbraith
MaD dUCK wrote: > hi, > having installed suidmanager well after all other packages, how can i > make sure that suid.conf is properly configured? > > i.e. is there a way to tell every single package installed to > reconfigure itself? Here's what I'd do. # cd /var/lib/dpkg/info # egrep "^ +suidr

Re: newbie-esque: how to cut & paste?

2001-03-29 Thread Matthias Wieser
will trillich wrote: > > let's say you have debian potato running and all is right with > the world. > > X (startx or via kdm) is lovely, and console/virtual terminals > run flawlessly with gpm as well. > >... One answer, if you have not a mac mouse but a three button mouse or an emulated three

RE: setting up autofs

2001-03-29 Thread Kuhar, Mike
Two things, Robert. Make sure that autofs is built into your kernel. And to start off, use a copy of /etc/auto.master.dpkg-dist and /etc/auto.misc.dpkg-dist into /etc/auto.master and /etc/auto.misc to get you going with a good example. I would make one change, however. In /etc/auto.master, chan

Re: K guys here's a new one for me....

2001-03-29 Thread C Mead
- Original Message - From: Vinh Truong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debain-user Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 1:28 PM Subject: Re: K guys here's a new one for me > When you do an ifconfig, do you see an ip address and dns? > That would at least tell you if your NIC and the > cable modem

Re: pyton & perl

2001-03-29 Thread Shawn Garbett
Maintenance issues aside, if you want an "empirical" study comparing perl to python, as well as C/C++ and Java, check the following link: http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de/cgi-bin/psview?document=/ira/2000/5 It's the only article I've seen like it. If you're serious about making unmaintainable co

Re: newbie-esque: how to cut & paste?

2001-03-29 Thread Erik Steffl
Aaron Brashears wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:55:43AM -0600, will trillich wrote: > > what's the incantation? > > The only consistent cross-application method of copy and paste I'm > aware of is to select text with the mouse, activate the window you > want to paste into, and press t

suidmanager / reconfiguring packages

2001-03-29 Thread MaD dUCK
hi, having installed suidmanager well after all other packages, how can i make sure that suid.conf is properly configured? i.e. is there a way to tell every single package installed to reconfigure itself? martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|t

Re: Problems exporting X Display through ssh.

2001-03-29 Thread Bill White
This could be caused by NFS caches not being updated properly. At my installation, I have the same home directory on all machines. When I start xterms I run a small script ($HOME/bin/xrsh) which execs a program at a known location ($HOME/bin/xrshd) on the remote side. xrsh writes and xrshd reads

Re: K guys here's a new one for me....

2001-03-29 Thread Vinh Truong
When you do an ifconfig, do you see an ip address and dns? That would at least tell you if your NIC and the cable modem were communicating. Have you tried the connection again with the powerbook plugged in? If it works then, I would say that your cable modem is now bound to the MAC address of

Re: newbie-esque: how to cut & paste?

2001-03-29 Thread Colin Watson
will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >the mouse moves its pointer all over the place at your bidding, >and you can select text at the console whether in vi or less or >lynx; and within X your mouse can select text via konqueror (kde) >and quickie notepad-like accessories and in rxvt/xterm/etc.

Re: OT : Anti Virus Software for Linux

2001-03-29 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Hi Nate, What mcaffe product do you use? Does it work in Debian? We want to implement some AV in a debian mail potato server. Thanks, PH Em Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:57:16 -0800, Nate Amsden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Joris Lambrecht wrote: > > > > T

Re: pyton & perl

2001-03-29 Thread Ilya Martynov
D> | You can write obfuscated programs with any language, even with python. D> | The programmer should use the language (any language, not just perl or D> | python) resources judiciously to improve readability and D> | maintainability. D> This is true, though I've found obfuscated python to be ra

Mail config for dial-up

2001-03-29 Thread Gudmundur Erlingsson,,,
Hi, I have a dialup connection to the net, a mailbox at Yahoo (I'm a bit on the move) that I access using pop3 retreaval with Fetchmail, and since I really want to use Mutt (pretty sure it's safe to admit that in this crowd:-) I guess I have to use Exim as the smtp-server. I'm not sure, though, if

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