Re: Building Your own Boot Disks

1997-08-21 Thread Paul Wade
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: > imo, everyone should compile their own kernel - the boot/rescue floppy > is good to install a system with, but a linux box really should have a > kernel compiled especially for itwith only the drivers that it needs > compiled in (or as modules), no m

Re: Building Your own Boot Disks

1997-08-21 Thread Bruce Perens
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timm Gleason) > Now not wanting to go backward, especially due to the > major modifications done to the kernel we are using Is that the BESS Internet filter? I hope your product still lets you read the list, after the language we've been using on debian-user today :-) 15-2

Re: Building Your own Boot Disks

1997-08-21 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Timm Gleason wrote: > We build many, many Linux boxes (on order of 15 to 20 a month). We > just received some new disk sets for Debian 1.3.1. We have been using > 1.2 and kernel 2.0.30. The new disk set comes with the disk images > having 2.0.29. Now not wanting to go backward

Re: A little consideration, please?

1997-08-21 Thread Rick Hawkins
bruce wrote, > 2. Please don't start with the assumption that I am a corporate robber >baron whenever you argue about Debian policy. 2a) If you do make this assumption, please send him enough money to act like one. Say, Stanford's endowment . . . :) rick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MA

[problem][tetex][locate]

1997-08-21 Thread Will Lowe
I installed tetex-{base,bin,extra} today. Running latex produces: I can't find the default format file! having searched for an hour through tetex documentation (and been very confused by the concept of kpathsea), I find that this is either texmf.cnf or latex.fmt (I can't figure out which). So:

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Rick Hawkins
> > They could have not followed anything past the guy that caused it. > > Now they can. > With all due respect, I think you have it backwards. Now, the > corporation protects not just those beyond the guy that caused the > problem. It even protects that particular guy. you are correct. Howev

Re: interesting problem with libgbdm, libgbdmg, perl

1997-08-21 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Mon, 18 Aug 1997 09:18:39 -0600 (MDT) , David Puryear wrote: > Hi all, > > When I do: > > :-> dpkg -i perl_5.004.02-1.deb libgdbmg1_1.7.3-21.deb > > dpkg: regarding perl_5.004.02-1.deb containing perl, pre-dependency problem: > perl pre-depends on libgdbmg1 > libgdbmg1 is not installed. >

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Paul Wade
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: > From: Paul Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I suppose all 67 megs in bo-updates is being held there for some other > > reason? > > I had a phone conversation with Guy Maor. He says he'll make the release > next week. He says he has no problem with the versio

Building Your own Boot Disks

1997-08-21 Thread Timm Gleason
We build many, many Linux boxes (on order of 15 to 20 a month). We just received some new disk sets for Debian 1.3.1. We have been using 1.2 and kernel 2.0.30. The new disk set comes with the disk images having 2.0.29. Now not wanting to go backward, especially due to the major modifications done t

Re: Squid + ipfwadm redirect transparent problems

1997-08-21 Thread Richard Ayres
On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Jose Maria Omo Millan wrote: > # Redirect to Squid proxy server > /sbin/ipfwadm -I -a acc -P tcp -D default/0 80 -r 8080 > > This rule really redirect http request of any PC to squid server, > but I ever get the following error: > > ERROR: The requested URL could not b

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-21 Thread Paul Wade
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Paul Serice wrote: > > Does Microsoft contribute to my personal autonomy? If so, I prefer > > anarchy. > > > Perhaps Microsoft does. Perhaps it doesn't. But, I'm almost certain > "Greenbush Technologies Corporation" does. ;-) > ^^^ There

shadow and nis

1997-08-21 Thread Behan Webster
For the life of me I can not seem to get nis to work with shadow passwords. I can get each to work seperately, but not together. Can anyone with experience with using these two together please explain how to set it up properly? I'm stumped. Thanks in advance. Behan Webster -- Behan Webster

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I think while the current 1.3.1 was being created, there was an error, making 1.3.1 replace (instead of add a few packages to) 1.3. That, though regrettable, shall not be repeated. As to bug fixed in bo-updates, they have not yet been released, they are in the test phase, a

A little consideration, please?

1997-08-21 Thread Bruce Perens
Ladies and Gentlemen, I am going to drive tomorrow to Santa Cruz (from Berkeley) to participate in a meeting for Debian. I told you about the common ABI for all i386 Unix systems a week or so ago, and a lot of you thought it was a good idea. That's what it is about. I am driving about 100 (non-de

exmh problems; charset=us-ascii

1997-08-21 Thread Rick Hawkins
I've tried to solve this from the faq, but it only hints at solutions. 1) exmh: Scanning for nested folders ... BgRegister X server insecure (must use xauth-style authorization); command ignored The faq refers to recompiling over xauthority. I seriously doubt this is necessary (or, there woul

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Paul Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I suppose all 67 megs in bo-updates is being held there for some other > reason? I had a phone conversation with Guy Maor. He says he'll make the release next week. He says he has no problem with the version numbering scheme. He was not waiting for me. He says

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-21 Thread Paul Serice
> On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Paul Serice wrote: > > > Now for your anarchist side, when governments become overbearing they > > tend to nationalize -- meaning they take property away from > > corporations (and other private organizations or individuals) for the > > supposed general welfare. So, it is no

exmh troubles; charset=us-ascii

1997-08-21 Thread Rick Hawkins
I'm trying to get exmh running, but am running into multiple troubles. The faw hints at solutions, but . . . 1) BgRegister X server insecure (must use xauth-style authorization); command ignored the faq says that this is usually a problem with TK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-

Re: X installation calamity solved. Thank you!

1997-08-21 Thread Marco Shinobu Matsumura
> > Thanks to Joost Kooi for suggesting I could bypass my mis-installed > X installation by typing ``linux single'' at the LILO prompt. This > allowed me to delete some stuff and salvage my system. > > As a minor matter, typing ``linux emergency'' did not work. I was > able to get on.

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-21 Thread bruce
From: Paul Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I will be running a special on 1.3.whatever_it_really_is binary CD's > starting this weekend and continuing for at least one month. Longer if > that's what it takes to clean this up. I will make it cheaper to get a > 1.3.really_current binary CD than the 1.3.1

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hi guys, I agree with donations and the incorporation. I've seen some messages in this thread that attributes to me some sentences I did not say, like this one: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : Dave> On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:28:10 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote:

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Paul Wade
It sounds so good, but where is the clear admission that the 1.3.1 on ftp is not the same as the CD? It should be at least 1.3.1 r2 by now. The consumer should be able to quickly visit ftp.debian.org before he hands money to a retailer for a product. Expecting a software buyer not to do that is ta

Expelling David Cinege from the list

1997-08-21 Thread David_Neuer
>On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:34:29 -0400 (EDT), Dave Cinege wrote: > >>> Sidetracking the issue insults my intellegence. Fuck you. >>> >>Resorting to vulgarities on a public mailing list should get you bounced >>from the list. Like Behan said, grow up. > >Then fuck you too. Bounce me. Weld you're powe

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Paul Serice
> >The government has always been involved. In general though, it is > > With the developers and servers in Germany? nl? The presence of developers and servers in Germany does not limit the ability of the American legal system to reach the developers in the U.S. So, yes, despite developers in Ge

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Paul Wade
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: > Why change the version numbering scheme? It is a small change, it makes > sense for marketing reasons, it is easy to do, and there was no reason not > to do it. We're not holding up releases because of it. I suppose all 67 megs in bo-updates is being hel

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, This is a silly argument. And the person conducting the other end has managed to annoy a number of people who actually contribute to the project, and hasd decended to profanity, so this is my last word on the matter. For those who care, the old scheme was to have revisions

Re: incorporation

1997-08-21 Thread Gary L. Dolan
This thread seems to have taken a critical tone that is a bit inappropriate, certainly from a legal standpoint. As a lawyer, I would strongly recommend that those active in the debian organization incorporate as a non-profit corporation. It is is not true to say that by incorporating you have imp

Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-21 Thread Paul Wade
Long live anarchy! Long live the Revolution and the Counter-Revolution! Long live the Dedicated Diehard Debianist! I will be running a special on 1.3.whatever_it_really_is binary CD's starting this weekend and continuing for at least one month. Longer if that's what it takes to clean this up. I w

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Bruce Perens
> (anyone else thinking of Natasha and Boris?). I was thinking of Ren and Stimpy, or maybe Itchy and Scratchy :-) Lots of people were calling for us to "get real" rather than just be a "toy distribution". A few people resent the baggage that comes with that. The solipsist craves a world with no l

Re: Problems with Debian install... (fwd)

1997-08-21 Thread Brian S. Julin
Anyone got help for this guy? -- Brian S. Julin -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 17:54:25 +0300 From: Tomi Yli-Nokari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problems with Debian install... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: incorporation

1997-08-21 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Rick Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2) It has nothing to do with the US government. States grant corporate > charters, not the feds (Although there are a handful of federally > chartered corporations: Postal Service, Sallie Mae, etc.). However the 501(c)3 comes from IRS and applies to your

writing off the value of services donated

1997-08-21 Thread Bruce Perens
Dave Cinege: > Do you think the IRS will allow companies to write off the ftp bandwidth > they donate? Yes, you can deduct the value of services donated to a 501(c)3 non-profit from your income for tax purposes. Not just FTP bandwidth, all sorts of services. If you do your personal taxes on the l

Re: [X] why does X kill my modem?

1997-08-21 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Bob Billson, you wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, I wrote: > >ttyS0 and ttyS3 are IRQ 3 > >ttyS2 and ttyS4 are IRQ 4 > > I *meant* to type: > > ttyS0 and ttyS2 are IRQ 3 > ttyS1 and ttyS3 are IRQ 4 This *will* be the problem. You have 2 sets of hardware sitting on the same i

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Bruce Perens
Gee, calm down a bit please, Dave. Where has the money gone? So far, it's mostly been into the bootstrap expenses of a non-profit. This was something like $400 for incorporation, and $2000 for the IRS 501(c)3. Once the 501(c)3 is completed, U.S. citizens who donate to Debian can write off their do

Re: POV-ray?

1997-08-21 Thread Bob Billson
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Greg Vence wrote: >Does anyone who uses POV know why I cann't see http://www.pov.org/ ? Try www.povray.org, instead. -- Bob Billson, KC2WZemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (\ MS-DOS, you can't live with it. You can live without it./) {||

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread mdorman
On Aug 21, Dave Cinege wrote > Rev each change and I'm happy enough to be quite. This is the only reason I > started yelling, I still feel it is a good one. Yes, well, I'm suggesting you should shut up regardless. Mike. -- Don't touch that! It's the History Eraser Button -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FR

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: > It's not about .1 R1, or Asub1, to the 2nd power of 4. > It's about something that is frozen, actully staying frozen. > If the disc says 1.3.1, I should be able crccheck the whole damn thing > against the > master 1.3.1 dist, and have it come up clean.

debian on compaq

1997-08-21 Thread Alfonso E. Urdaneta
Just a reminder, I was having a hard time getting Debian to install on my Compaq. Got lots of help from this list. In case I forgot anyone, please forgive me. I would like to thank Brandon Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for pointing out that my cdrom was actually /dev/hdc so I was able to mount i

POV-ray?

1997-08-21 Thread Greg Vence
Hello, Does anyone who uses POV know why I cann't see http://www.pov.org/ ? Can you see it or not? Thanx -- Greg. -- What do you want to spend today? Debian GNU/Linux (Free for an UNLIMITED time) http://www.debian.org/social_contract.html Greg VenceKH2EA/4 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAI

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:52:36 -0500, Paul Serice wrote: >> The purpose behind the official incorporation for Debian is still >> beyand me, and the more I think about it I don't like it. The >> project (like linux) has always been for freeholders all over the >> world. Why the US government sudden

Re: [X] why does X kill my modem?

1997-08-21 Thread Bob Billson
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, I wrote: >ttyS0 and ttyS3 are IRQ 3 >ttyS2 and ttyS4 are IRQ 4 I *meant* to type: ttyS0 and ttyS2 are IRQ 3 ttyS1 and ttyS3 are IRQ 4 -- Bob Billson, KC2WZemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (\ MS-DOS, you can't live with it. You can live witho

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:44:11 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Aug 21, Dave Cinege wrote >>On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:23:27 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>On Aug 21, Dave Cinege wrote I don't see the need. >>>Well, many others did. And many others agreed with the other changes >>>you disagr

Re: adduser and user names containing 8 bits chars

1997-08-21 Thread Daniel Doro Ferrante
> > Hi, > > i'm using the latest adduser package from bo-updates and i found that > it does not accept user names containing 8 bits chars. I'm talking > about a user's full name (first name + family name), not short name > (login name or home directory name). I don't know if such names are > su

Re: help - 1.3 upgrade killed XFree86

1997-08-21 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Kenneth Gaugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yesterday I used the dselect/ftp method to upgrade my machine from > Debian Linux 1.2 to > 1.3. The system is now running 1.3, but X doesn't work anymore. > > Normally I have xdm starting at boot time; now the screen never comes up > but the relays

Re: [X] why does X kill my modem?

1997-08-21 Thread Bob Billson
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Tim Sailer wrote: >What IRQs are you using for all these? If you are sharing 3 and 4 between >3 devices, that could be the problem. ttyS0 and ttyS3 are IRQ 3 ttyS2 and ttyS4 are IRQ 4 I keep the modem (on ttyS4) separate from the mouse (on ttyS0) to avoid conflicts. The X10

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 20:05:09 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: >> >On top of that, not everyone can donate time or resourses, but they can >> >contribute money. >> >> To who? Am I a part of Debian.org? Do I have a vote.even if I maintain >> 50 >> packages?? > >Do you maintain even one? N

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dave Cinege
On 21 Aug 1997 13:23:32 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >Hi, >>>"Dave" == Dave Cinege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Dave> On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:28:10 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: > > >Dave> I think Debian was doing just fine before it started to receive >Dave> cash donations. What expenses does it

adduser and user names containing 8 bits chars

1997-08-21 Thread Laurent Bonnaud
Hi, i'm using the latest adduser package from bo-updates and i found that it does not accept user names containing 8 bits chars. I'm talking about a user's full name (first name + family name), not short name (login name or home directory name). I don't know if such names are supposed to be val

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Paul Serice
> The purpose behind the official incorporation for Debian is still > beyand me, and the more I think about it I don't like it. The > project (like linux) has always been for freeholders all over the > world. Why the US government suddenly has to get involded, I have > no idea. Why does Debian ne

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
The discussion is funny but inappropriate, but I think this is just what Dave wanted. However: On Aug 21, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Dave" == Dave Cinege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You are perfectly free to start your own distribution of > Linux, you and all other ``anarchists

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread mdorman
On Aug 21, Dave Cinege wrote >On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:23:27 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>On Aug 21, Dave Cinege wrote >>>I don't see the need. >>Well, many others did. And many others agreed with the other changes >>you disagree with. These decisions have been made. The time for >>discussion

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Aug 21, Dave Cinege wrote: > On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:42:02 -0400, Behan Webster wrote: > > >Dave Cinege wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:28:10 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: > >> > > >On top of that, not everyone can donate time or resourses, but they can > >contribute money. > > To wh

Re: How do I create a rescue disk?

1997-08-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I think that the boot-floppies package is used to create the rescues disk (as well as the other, root, boot, and base floppy disks). It may not be very user friendly (the description says used by advanced debian people). manoj -- Seven years of college, down the drain. Jo

cfengine question?

1997-08-21 Thread Timothy Phan
Hi, Would some please show me what is wrong with the following cfengine that is sent to my 'root' every day: --8< --- cfengine:/etc/cfengine/cfengine.conf:53: parse error cfengine::Execution terminated after parsing due to e

Re: [X] why does X kill my modem?

1997-08-21 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Bob Billson, you wrote: > > Hi all... > > Oh no! He's back with another problem. :-) > > This one has me really puzzled. When I run X, I can't dial out with my > modem. Until recently, I didn't run X very much so I pretty much forgot > about the problem. Now I want to st

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:20:36 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote: >On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: > >> If the orginization were not invloded in promotions, and makings CD-Rom, >> they >> could get back to simply working towards the orginazation of a quality >> product. >> Thats their purpose

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Dave" == Dave Cinege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dave> The new version naming scheme and control is based on politics Dave> and not technical reasons. But it is not technically inferior to the previous naming convention in any way. Dave> If the orginization were not invloded in

[X] why does X kill my modem?

1997-08-21 Thread Bob Billson
Hi all... Oh no! He's back with another problem. :-) This one has me really puzzled. When I run X, I can't dial out with my modem. Until recently, I didn't run X very much so I pretty much forgot about the problem. Now I want to start using X more so the problem needs to be solved. My machin

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: > Sidetracking the issue insults my intellegence. Fuck you. > Your own comment insults your intellegence (what little I have seen) far more than Behan. Try a comment with more thought involved, Dwarf P.S. I've never understood why that particular phrase

Re: Installing Linux

1997-08-21 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Davison Avery, you wrote: > > I was wondering if there was a way to install Linux without formatting > my hard-drive and destorying the existing partitions. I currently use > Win95, but want to try Linux out. As such, I would like to have Linux as > the dominant OS, but wish t

Re: G77 (was Re: compilation problems)

1997-08-21 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Oleg Krivosheev wrote: > nope, it will be released about Sep 1st and based on gcc 2.7.2.3 That's good news. Unfortunately, if it's based on 2.7.2.3, that means there probably won't be a libc5 version of it. If that's going to inconvenience anybody, let me know, and I'll...see what I can do. --

Installing Linux

1997-08-21 Thread Davison Avery
I was wondering if there was a way to install Linux without formatting my hard-drive and destorying the existing partitions. I currently use Win95, but want to try Linux out. As such, I would like to have Linux as the dominant OS, but wish to be able to switch to Win95 if I ever had to access some

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Dave" == Dave Cinege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dave> On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:28:10 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: Dave> I think Debian was doing just fine before it started to receive Dave> cash donations. What expenses does it have? Can you make your Dave> books public Bruce? Pers

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:11:16 -0400, Marc W. Brooks wrote: >Okay, I'm not sure where we disagree then. You admit that "In most cases it >won't even be feasible", but this also means that in some cases, it would >be feasible. Could be...could. >Why not give that option to people? Just wondering.

Re: G77 (was Re: compilation problems)

1997-08-21 Thread ig25
Galen Hazelwood wrote: >Thus Spake Michael Taeschner: >>Awaiting g77 0.5.21 soon, >Don't hold your breath. I've heard that it's been indefinitely delayed, >sort of like gcc 2.8. Craig Burley is planning the release of g77 0.5.21 on September 1st, or at least so he wrote two days ago. -- Thomas

Re: G77 (was Re: compilation problems)

1997-08-21 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
Hi, On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Galen Hazelwood wrote: > Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:01:44 -0600 > From: Galen Hazelwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-user@lists.DEBIAN.org > Subject: G77 (was Re: compilation problems) > Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:04:20 + > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.DEB

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:23:27 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Aug 21, Dave Cinege wrote >> On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:33:41 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: >> >One of the reasons is that when people make a donation, it could be >> >tax deductable. Right now it is not. We have to get 501(c)3 status >

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Marc W. Brooks
At 02:56 PM 8/21/97 -0400, Dave Cinege wrote: >On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:19:55 -0400, Marc W. Brooks wrote: >>What about people who would like to donate with the tax write off? Why >>should that avenue be blocked because it won't help everyone involved? As >>long as it does not actually hinder people,

G77 (was Re: compilation problems)

1997-08-21 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Thus Spake Michael Taeschner: >Did you try to install GNU fortran77, the real f77 compiler? >BTW it comes in version 0.5.20 in stable (though 5.20 is known to have >bugs), maybe somewhere 0.5.19.1 is somewhere around as .deb? The bo-updates section has 0.5.19.1. >Awaiting g77 0.5.21 soon, Don

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Dave Cinege, you wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:34:29 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: > > >In your email to me, Dave Cinege, you wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:42:02 -0400, Behan Webster wrote: > >> >Personally I think you're blowing things way out of proportion s

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:19:55 -0400, Marc W. Brooks wrote: >At 02:00 PM 8/21/97 -0400, Dave Cinege wrote: >>On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:33:41 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: >> >>> >>>One of the reasons is that when people make a donation, it could be >>>tax deductable. Right now it is not. We have to ge

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:34:29 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: >In your email to me, Dave Cinege, you wrote: >> >> On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:42:02 -0400, Behan Webster wrote: >> >Personally I think you're blowing things way out of proportion simply >> >because you can't have things your way. Venting t

new install

1997-08-21 Thread Karsten Bolding
Hi Just got a new computer with 2 Quantum Fireball ST2.1A and a Pioneer ATAPI CD (DR-A24X) I'am having some problems... I can boot the system and come to the point where Please wait Installation is determining the current state .. and then the screen starts to be filed with

Re: incorporation

1997-08-21 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:09:25 CDT, Rick Hawkins wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:28:10 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: > >> The purpose behind the official incorporation for Debian is still beyand >> me, >> and the more I think about it I don't like it. The project (like linux) >> has > always

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Rick Hawkins
> >One of the reasons is that when people make a donation, it could be > >tax deductable. Right now it is not. We have to get 501(c)3 status > >with the US IRS first. > Why? Of what intestest is that to the people that don't live in the USA. and of what harm? if there's enough interest from ou

X installation calamity solved. Thank you!

1997-08-21 Thread Charles Blair
Thanks to Joost Kooi for suggesting I could bypass my mis-installed X installation by typing ``linux single'' at the LILO prompt. This allowed me to delete some stuff and salvage my system. As a minor matter, typing ``linux emergency'' did not work. I was able to get on. Even though I w

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Dave Cinege, you wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:42:02 -0400, Behan Webster wrote: > >Personally I think you're blowing things way out of proportion simply > >because you can't have things your way. Venting this anger by > >trying to imply that donated money is somehow bein

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:42:02 -0400, Behan Webster wrote: >Dave Cinege wrote: >> >> On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:28:10 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: >> >> >my company uses Debian very seriously so I think is very fair to help the >> >project with donations. I have just bought 2 "Official Debian 1.3.1 CD'

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Will Lowe
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: > If the orginization were not invloded in promotions, and makings CD-Rom, they > could get back to simply working towards the orginazation of a quality > product. > Thats their purpose as far as I'm concerned, not worring about if CD makers > can > kee

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread mdorman
On Aug 21, Dave Cinege wrote > On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:33:41 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: > >One of the reasons is that when people make a donation, it could be > >tax deductable. Right now it is not. We have to get 501(c)3 status > >with the US IRS first. > Why? Of what intestest is that to the p

Re: Squid + ipfwadm redirect transparent problems

1997-08-21 Thread Mike
Jose Maria Omo Millan wrote: ># Redirect to Squid proxy server >/sbin/ipfwadm -I -a acc -P tcp -D default/0 80 -r 8080 >ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved > While trying to retrieve the URL: / The http 1.0 protocol does not send requested IP address in the request. If a clien

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Marc W. Brooks
At 02:00 PM 8/21/97 -0400, Dave Cinege wrote: >On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:33:41 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: > >> >>One of the reasons is that when people make a donation, it could be >>tax deductable. Right now it is not. We have to get 501(c)3 status > >Why? Of what intestest is that to the people

Re: incorporation

1997-08-21 Thread Rick Hawkins
On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:28:10 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: > The purpose behind the official incorporation for Debian is still beyand me, > and the more I think about it I don't like it. The project (like linux) has > > always been for freeholders all over the world. Why the US government >

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:33:41 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: > >One of the reasons is that when people make a donation, it could be >tax deductable. Right now it is not. We have to get 501(c)3 status >with the US IRS first. Why? Of what intestest is that to the people that don't live in the USA. H

Re: receiving vt100 printing sequences

1997-08-21 Thread B. Bell
On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > how do i get a vc or an xterm to recognize and print vt100 print > > sequences? > > this is what i want to be able to do, in a nutshell: > > my.debian.machine% rsh other.debian.machine vtprint foo.txt > > thus causing foo.txt to be printed on the pri

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:57:33 +0200, Ciccio wrote: >> On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 07:51:09 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I think Debian was doing just fine before it started to receive cash donations. What expenses > >What's going wrong now? > >I'm using debian quite heavily, and nobod

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Ciccio
> On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 07:51:09 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: > > >> > >> I think Debian was doing just fine before it started to receive cash > >> donations. What expenses What's going wrong now? > does > >> it have? Can you make your books public Bruce? > > > >Check the donations page. It

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Behan Webster
Dave Cinege wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:28:10 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: > > >my company uses Debian very seriously so I think is very fair to help the > >project with donations. I have just bought 2 "Official Debian 1.3.1 CD's" > >from LSL and I chose the product that includes a 5 dollar

Re: Calamity setting up X! Blank screen!

1997-08-21 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Joost Kooij wrote: [snip] > To stop xdm from starting after boot, type "linux single" at lilo's > "boot:" prompt. > Alternatively (in case I'm wrong about what's run in single user mode) > type "linux emergency" to bypass nearly all the startup scripts in > /etc/init.d/ resp.

[XINETD] problems

1997-08-21 Thread mfrattola
Hi all, I'm trying to learn xinetd so I installed 2.1.7-3 (from debian 1.2) on a debian 1.1-upgraded-to-1.2 machine. I found these (little) problems: 1. config file (when modified) is not reread using killall -USR1 xinetd or /etc/init.d/xinetd reload. I have to stop and start it 2. using log_ty

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V97 #646

1997-08-21 Thread Nils Naumann
Hiermit wiederspreche ich der Verwendung meiner e-mail Adresse für kommerzielle Werbeaussendungen. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: hamm and compiling.

1997-08-21 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Bob Clark, you wrote: > > Tim Sailer wrote: > > > > On 1 machine I have, I'm running hamm... updating daily. Real bleeding > > edge. I have a problem with compiling a program that I don't > > understand. > > > > Here is the error: > > > > gcc -g -ansi -pedantic -Wall -I./.

Re: compilation problems

1997-08-21 Thread Oliver Elphick
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, writes: >Hi, > >I apologize for the long message but I figure I'd better lay out all the >errors. I'm having some unusual compilation problems on a new machine I'm >setting up. When I try a make depend on some code, I often get one or more >of the follow

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Dave Cinege, you wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 07:51:09 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: > > >> > >> I think Debian was doing just fine before it started to receive cash > >> donations. What expenses > does > >> it have? Can you make your books public Bruce? > > > >Check t

Re: Passwd: encrypted pw entry

1997-08-21 Thread dpk
Sorry if someone already answered this, my inbox is chaos right now... I run shadow passwd's so I: 1. type 'shadowconfig off' 2. type 'vi /etc/passwd' as root. I replace the users password with a single '*'. This is what it will look like: username:*:1000:100:[snip] 3. quit/save

Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian

1997-08-21 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 07:51:09 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote: >> >> I think Debian was doing just fine before it started to receive cash >> donations. What expenses does >> it have? Can you make your books public Bruce? > >Check the donations page. It will show what has been collected. The only

Re: Passwd: encrypted pw entry

1997-08-21 Thread Pete Templin
On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Matthew Tebbens wrote: > How can I disable an /etc/passwd entry. Isn't there something I can place > in the encrypted-pw section of /etc/passwd to disable the account ? Inserting an asterisk in front of a user's encoded password will disable the account without destroying th

printer setup

1997-08-21 Thread Michael Sicher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- hello, is there any software for setting up a printer? i installed lprgn and magicfilter but how do i tell them that i have a hp laserjet 4 with a4 paper and that it should use 600dpi, ...? thanks a lot, michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia

Re: Calamity setting up X! Blank screen!

1997-08-21 Thread Joost Kooij
Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Charles Blair wrote: > > >Then the real disaster! > > it goes through preliminary messages, types ``starting xdm'' and then > > I get a blank screen. > > > > I have also tried using the boot floppy I created when I installed > > the sy

Re: Installing 1.3.1 BIG Problems !!!

1997-08-21 Thread jdassen
On Aug 21, Peter Biechele wrote [install problems] > I have tried the installation for about 20 times using Debian 1.2.4, > 1.2.10 and 1.3.1 (July disks) but nothing helped. I have reformatted for > several times, used less swap space (64MB instead of 128MB) and used non > at all. I have tried to c

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