Re: People Demanding Credit in the Press Release Silliness

1997-02-21 Thread William Chow
On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Daniel Robbins wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Douglas Stewart wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: > > > > > It is a sort of Press Release whipped-up by the Debian Project Leader. > > > I really didn't intend to chastise him for this - I am a staunch

Re: debian-newbie list

1997-02-21 Thread Daniel Robbins
On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Susan G. Kleinmann wrote: > Related idea: > I'm thinking about working on the FAQ this weekend, and one thing I'd > like to do is to break it up into at least two parts: > --one which is general, and > --one which focusses only on dselect and dpkg. > > Of course, we could br

People Demanding Credit in the Press Release Silliness

1997-02-21 Thread Daniel Robbins
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Douglas Stewart wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: > > > It is a sort of Press Release whipped-up by the Debian Project Leader. > > I really didn't intend to chastise him for this - I am a staunch Debian > > advocate. I just wanted to remark that the "p

Re: dec 21040 chipset

1997-02-21 Thread Daniel Robbins
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, dpk wrote: > Thanks for all who replied to my problem with my ethernet card. > I finally got it to work properly. There seemed to be an IRQ conflict > with my scsi adapter because they both claimed IRQ 10. I'm now > installing debian on my other machine now! :) > Thanks ag

Re: DepenGNUian Logo - Boxing Kangaroo?

1997-02-21 Thread Daniel Robbins
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Daniel Stringfield wrote: > > > > I think Gromit would be a better mascot. Ultimately he was much > > > more resourceful and capable than de penguin. > > > > Yep, you're right, I guess I was stuck in "penguin mode" since it seems > > like the penguin somehow became the o

Re: Gnu C manual && Gdb warning

1997-02-21 Thread Nick Busigin
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Jonathan Lawson wrote: > Script started on Thu Feb 20 10:36:52 1997 > Hi, >Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the "GNU C Manual"? I > would really like to take a look at it . Secondly, I get the > following (underlisted) error from Gdb, I wonder if anyone knows

new packages

1997-02-21 Thread Jesse Goldman
Hiya, Just curious. I've noticed a few letters making references to packages such as ldso_1.8.10-1_i386.deb and libc5 version 5.4.3 and yet, I'm unable to find these new packages in unstable. Where could I find them? Thanks, J. Goldman -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word

Re: What means these lines?

1997-02-21 Thread Steve Reid
On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: > Feb 20 21:38:34 named[202]: Lame server on '165.114.83.155.in-addr.arpa' > (in '83.155.in-addr.arpa'?): [140.194.20.7].53 'NS1.USACE.ARMY.MIL': > learnt (A=147.240.16.254,NS=128.9.0.107) > Please, what it means? Where can I learn more abo

Re: Unstable vs. Stable

1997-02-21 Thread William Chow
On 21 Feb 1997, Rob Browning wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > In other words, if you don't have plenty of money, don't use Debian. > > FUD > > It just means that you can be as cutting edge as you feel comfortable > with/can afford. Many other systems don't even give you that option.

Olicom PCI Ethernet 10/100 and NEC 4x4 CD-ROM

1997-02-21 Thread Pedro I. Sanchez
Hello, Does anyone know if the following two elements ar supported under Linux? - Olicom Ethernet PCI 10/100 Adapter, Model OC-2315 - NEC Multispin 4x4 CD-ROM unit (4 CD's in one unit) (I believe this is an IDE unit). If so, what are the appropriate drivers? So far, I h

Re: .dir_colors

1997-02-21 Thread Robert Stone
On Fri, 21 Feb 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I notice that the entries in the .dir_colors file for the attributes of > the text are 00 01 04 05 ... The 04 does not seem to work, replacing it > with 03 seems to do the trick (04) is the only even number. Is this > someting particular to my system

Re: Unstable vs. Stable

1997-02-21 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In other words, if you don't have plenty of money, don't use Debian. FUD It just means that you can be as cutting edge as you feel comfortable with/can afford. Many other systems don't even give you that option. Also, CheapBytes sells a Debian CD for $2.99. I doubt

Re: DepenGNUian Logo

1997-02-21 Thread Jim Pick
The traffic on debian-user is becoming a little overwhelming. Could we move threads like this and the shuttle press release to the debian-publicity mailing list please? Cheers, - Jim pgpw1Nawh4HP7.pgp Description: PGP signature

Hypernews (was Re: debian-newbie list)

1997-02-21 Thread Jim Pick
> On Feb 20, Bruce Perens wrote > > I think what we need first is a person to coordinate all of the oldbies > > who are answering questions. There has to be a schedule, perhaps a mail > > alias that is directed to different people at different times, etc. > > > > Second, we need a person who edit

Re: Q: ldso_1.8.10-1_i386.deb

1997-02-21 Thread David Puryear
David Engel wrote: > You probably have mismatched run-time and development packages. For > example, your libc package might be at version 5.4.23 while your > libc-dev package is still at version 5.4.20-1. The version numbers > are supposed to match exactly. Dpkg is supposed to prevent this fro

Re: kernel compile

1997-02-21 Thread srivasta
[I can't seem to resolve freeze.oslo.dnmi.mo, and anyway, this should be of general interest] Hi, Actually, this maybe and old cleared bug resurfacing, the following bug apparently was fixed around 1.4.0.5, but seems to be present in 1.4.0.8 (at least, the patch quoted below does not see

Re: Unstable vs. Stable

1997-02-21 Thread jghasler
Craig writes: > If you dont have a good net connection, I'd recommend getting a freshly > burned CD with unstable on it once a month and upgrading from that. In other words, if you don't have plenty of money, don't use Debian. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [E

Re: Writing to a boot floppy.

1997-02-21 Thread Dale Scheetz
If you mount the boot floppy that you created when you installed your system (-t msdos) you will see that it contains various files. The file named linux on the floppy is the kernel image file. When you rebuild your kernel, you will find the new image file in linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage, if you bui

POP server sometimes doesn't respond

1997-02-21 Thread Al Youngwerth
One little annoyance I have with my debian box is that usually once or twice a day and just about every morning, I have a message from MS Exchange (a poor excuse for a mail program) that says it could not contact the mail server. Anyone else seeing this or any ideas? I was thinking about runni

RE: Battery level monitor for Linux and X11?

1997-02-21 Thread Paul Rightley
'xapm' works just as well as the utility provided with W95 on my Thinkpad 365XD. Paul On 21-Feb-97 Robert Nicholson wrote: >>dmesg reports the correct information from the BIOS so that APM stuff is >working fine. So does anybody know of a good notebook battery level >monitor? > >-- >TO UNSUBSCRIB

Re: bad superblock (fwd)

1997-02-21 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Mo Oishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > e2fsck -b 8193 > > Attempts to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying > to open /dev/hda2... > cfdisk tells me that this still is a legit filesystem/partition. The "short read" message says there _is_ a problem with the partition table

Re: ldp and samba

1997-02-21 Thread csmall
Remco van de Meent typed: > Anybody any idea how to config smb.conf and lpd.*/printcap for adding > printer services to samba? I assume this means it is not working? This is strange as I just used the default parameter and it worked fine. What's happening/not happening, what does the logs say?

Re: Debian installation

1997-02-21 Thread James W. Lynch
- Received message begins Here - I hate to toss water on this logic, but here is my 2 Gb drive. Using /dev/hda as default device! Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes Device Boot BeginSta

bad superblock (fwd)

1997-02-21 Thread Mo Oishi
Hello, all, I'm having unexplained problems booting my debian box. I shutdown linux yesterday morning and booted win 95 from /dev/hda1. When I tried to reboot linux (/dev/hda2) in the evening using lilo, I got nothing but the "starting linux" statement. I used the base rsc1440.bin disk (my boot fl

Battery level monitor for Linux and X11?

1997-02-21 Thread Robert Nicholson
dmesg reports the correct information from the BIOS so that APM stuff is working fine. So does anybody know of a good notebook battery level monitor? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Q: ldso_1.8.10-1_i386.deb

1997-02-21 Thread David Engel
On Feb 20, David Puryear wrote > When I do dpkg -i ldso_1.8.10-1_i386.deb here is what I get: > > (Reading database ... 18262 files and directories currently installed.) > Preparing to replace ldso 1.8.5-1 (using ldso_1.8.10-1_i386.deb) ... > Unpacking replacement ldso ... > Setting up ldso (1.8.1

Re: Unstable vs. Stable

1997-02-21 Thread David Engel
On Feb 20, Rick Macdonald wrote > I live off unstable all the time, and seem to have less problems > than the average bear! Be forewarned, after the release of Debian 1.3.x, we will be switching to glibc 2.x, aka Linux libc 6. When that happens, the unstable tree will definitely live up to it's n

dselect problems

1997-02-21 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
Hi ALL I did an upgrade of some packages a few minutes ago and a notice a problem with dselect settings: 1. As I choose to replace perl by a newer version it was removed from my system and the new version was installed. The problem is that the new version only is properly set aft

Re: Unstable vs. Stable

1997-02-21 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Daniel Robbins wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John T. Larkin) writes: > > > > > This was bad; everything linked with the x libraries couldn't run > > > since they couldn't find the libraries. They had installed a bunch > > > of X packages, so one of the packages should have b

Re: Writing to a boot floppy.

1997-02-21 Thread Stelios Parnassidis
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Bob Clark wrote: > Make the target "zdisk" and you will have a boot floppy. > > Bubonic wrote: > > > > I recompiled my kernel today (without any major problems) to 2.027, > > however, I can't seem to figure out how to create a new boot floppy. I have > > tried: cp vmlinu

rescue disk fails booting, cannot install ..

1997-02-21 Thread Stelios Parnassidis
I had just posted this to comp.os.linux.setup, as i found out of the debian-users list. so im sending it here too. Briefly : I concluded that to be able to install Debian on my machine i need to have a root.image file for the rescue disk which then i make up myself (with an own w

What means these lines?

1997-02-21 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
Hi ALL, Today I see these lines in a blank (no one logged in) console: Feb 20 21:38:34 named[202]: Lame server on '165.114.83.155.in-addr.arpa' (in '83.155.in-addr.arpa'?): [140.194.20.7].53 'NS1.USACE.ARMY.MIL': learnt (A=147.240.16.254,NS=128.9.0.107) Please, what it means? Wh

RE: DepenGNUian Logo

1997-02-21 Thread Casper BodenCummins
Clemmitt Sigler wrote: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> > "daniel" == Daniel Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > OK, ok, the penguin's a jewel thief, and he's evil. But he >> > has funny little beady eyes, and that's got to count for >> > somethin

Re: debian-newbie list

1997-02-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Susan G. Kleinmann wrote: > Of course, we could break it up further. For example, we could have > --an FAQ on installation and booting, and > --an FAQ on using the Debian archives. > --an FAQ on other Debian utilities or Debian practices. > --an FAQ on printing and text u

Re: Smail and slip dialup (2nd request)

1997-02-21 Thread Brian Skreeg
Thanks for all the help I recieved but as usual after sending my query the damn thing suddenly started working for no reason I can find.Think I'll just leave it alone. Now to work out procmail and that damn cnews/newsx thingy. I know linux is deliberatly hard just for the fun facter but my h

Re: debian-newbie list

1997-02-21 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Related idea: I'm thinking about working on the FAQ this weekend, and one thing I'd like to do is to break it up into at least two parts: --one which is general, and --one which focusses only on dselect and dpkg. Of course, we could break it up further. For example, we could have --an FAQ on in

Re: Using debian as a proxy/masq. server.

1997-02-21 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Adam Shand wrote: > > I am currently using a debian system to masquerade all the traffic > > from my high school's win95 lan to the internet. This is ok for a > > temporary manner, but my school wants me to implement a way to track > > where all the students are going, can't

Re: Intranet

1997-02-21 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Seth Reinosa wrote: > My church is building an intranet (Lord willing). We are going to have > @ 5 macs with localtalk and the localtalk server connected to a PC > runnning linux. Can I have the Linux beast connected directly to the > Mac toy with a single rj45 cable or do I

.dir_colors

1997-02-21 Thread C . J . Lawson
I notice that the entries in the .dir_colors file for the attributes of the text are 00 01 04 05 ... The 04 does not seem to work, replacing it with 03 seems to do the trick (04) is the only even number. Is this someting particular to my system or is there an error in that documentation? Jonathan

Re: debian-newbie list

1997-02-21 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
On Feb 20, Bruce Perens wrote > I think what we need first is a person to coordinate all of the oldbies > who are answering questions. There has to be a schedule, perhaps a mail > alias that is directed to different people at different times, etc. > > Second, we need a person who edits all of the

Re: Q: ldso_1.8.10-1_i386.deb

1997-02-21 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "David" == David Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> When I do dpkg -i ldso_1.8.10-1_i386.deb here is what I [...] David> I didn't have these warnings when I installed David> ldso_1.8.5-1_i386.deb Is this ldso problem or is it other David> packages not being up

Any help appreciated

1997-02-21 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello, this is my 4-th try to solve my problem. If somebody is interested in my concrete problem I can post my further letters under the subjects "Installation failure", "Once more: Installation failure" and "Instalation problems, anyway" with private mail. I don't want to bother the readers of

Re: Gnu C manual && Gdb warning

1997-02-21 Thread Philippe Troin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Hi, Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the "GNU C Manual"? I > would really like to take a look at it . Secondly, I get the > following (underlisted) error from Gdb, I wonder if anyone knows of a > way to set things right. I think you're referring to the

Re: Intranet

1997-02-21 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Seth Reinosa wrote: > I would also like to know if I really need any other software. You should probably install Squid in the linux machine. It's a WWW cache that can save bandwidth and improve performance... Nicolás Lichtmaier.- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM T

Re: tcl

1997-02-21 Thread Rob Browning
dpk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i just installed debian, and i can't seem find tcl.h On a Debian system, the best way to answer a question like this is to use dpkg's intrinsic ability to find files that it has installed on the system. So, in your case: $ dpkg --search tcl.h tcl76-dev: /us

Volunteer for newbie question HTML archive maintenance

1997-02-21 Thread Branden Robinson
> Second, we need a person who edits all of the questions and answers into > a web tree. The web tree should be orgnanized by package or something, > and then under the package name you see a big list of questions and click > on them to see tha answers. I'd like to volunteer to do this, as I was

Re: tcl

1997-02-21 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, dpk wrote: > i just installed debian, and i can't seem find tcl.h > > i checked where it normally is /usr/include/ but no such luck finding it > there and many other places. is /usr/include the default? i'm wondering > if my installation had errors (i used dselect but it

tcl

1997-02-21 Thread dpk
i just installed debian, and i can't seem find tcl.h i checked where it normally is /usr/include/ but no such luck finding it there and many other places. is /usr/include the default? i'm wondering if my installation had errors (i used dselect but it didn't complain of anything) i happened to

suggestion for dselect

1997-02-21 Thread Walter L. Preuninger II
This may be in the works, but I like the way smit(aix) handles software. You can apply, commit and reject applied stuff. This would be nice in an instance where a package is installed and broke/not working. For example, I just d/l the newest netbase/netstd, and something appears wrong with tcpd. On

Re: Intranet

1997-02-21 Thread Adam Shand
>Can I have the Linux beast connected directly to the Mac toy with a single >rj45 cable or do I need a hub. (I know about the ethernet cards) I think you need to use ethertalk not localtalk but I'm not positive. You can connect two computers (in this case the linux box and *one* Mac) with a rj45

Intranet

1997-02-21 Thread Seth Reinosa
My church is building an intranet (Lord willing). We are going to have @ 5 macs with localtalk and the localtalk server connected to a PC runnning linux. Can I have the Linux beast connected directly to the Mac toy with a single rj45 cable or do I need a hub. (I know about the ethernet cards) I als

Re: Using debian as a proxy/masq. server.

1997-02-21 Thread Adam Shand
>I am currently using a debian system to masquerade all the traffic from >my high school's win95 lan to the internet. This is ok for a temporary >manner, but my school wants me to implement a way to track where all the >students are going, can't have them going to sighs which arn't kosher, if

Q: ldso_1.8.10-1_i386.deb

1997-02-21 Thread David Puryear
When I do dpkg -i ldso_1.8.10-1_i386.deb here is what I get: (Reading database ... 18262 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace ldso 1.8.5-1 (using ldso_1.8.10-1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement ldso ... Setting up ldso (1.8.10-1) ... ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-21 Thread Jason Killen
Why does everyone keep saying that X should look like Win 95. I don't want to get into a shouting match about which is easer to use and those people who like the Win 95 look and feel can stick with it. I just don't like the fact that some people feel we should masqurade(?), I feel we should give

Re: Unstable vs. Stable

1997-02-21 Thread Rick Macdonald
On 20 Feb 1997, Guy Maor wrote: > Daniel Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Since it seems like all the bug fixes go in unstable, isn't the > > unstable stuff more stable than stable? > > All the new bugs go into stable too. Sometimes they are very bad. I live off unstable all the time,

Re: no NFS mounts from other hosts (!)

1997-02-21 Thread Perry Piplani
Ioannis Tambouras wrote: > > > You should uncomment the lines to start the nfsd and mountd on the other > > hosts in the file /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs. > > Well, not if the only thing I want is to mount volumes. In that > case you only need rpc support from the kernel. That is all. > > Thanks for a

Re: debian-newbie list

1997-02-21 Thread Adam Shand
>> This is a good idea, because a number of people have told me they >> find the prospect of posting to debian-user intimidating, because they >> expect to be flamed to a cinder by others on the list. Now, it's not >> nearly that bad, but I understand where they are coming from. > >I'd subscribe an

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-21 Thread Bruce Perens
> It is possible to build an operating system from software which > is available from ftp/web sites around the world. Typically > one starts with the Linux kernel and adds GNU utilities and > compiler. However, building an functional operating system > from workable parts can be an enormous

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-21 Thread Douglas Stewart
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: > It is a sort of Press Release whipped-up by the Debian Project Leader. > I really didn't intend to chastise him for this - I am a staunch Debian > advocate. I just wanted to remark that the "press release" was a bit > low-key on attributing the

Re: Return-path header

1997-02-21 Thread Rob MacWilliams
Try adding something like this to your /etc/smail/config file. Obviously, you'll need to put your name and address in place of mine. from_field="From: Rob MacWilliams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" "Time is the best teacher, unfortunate

dec 21040 chipset

1997-02-21 Thread dpk
Thanks for all who replied to my problem with my ethernet card. I finally got it to work properly. There seemed to be an IRQ conflict with my scsi adapter because they both claimed IRQ 10. I'm now installing debian on my other machine now! :) Thanks again, Dennis ==

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-21 Thread Shaya Potter
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: > From: David Gaudine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Nor any suggestion that any other Linux distribution may have ever > > existed. It really sounds like the Debian team finished the job and > > made Linux into a useable system. > > The task was not to write th

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-21 Thread W. Joseph Mantle
Bruce: Who is the target audience of this press release? Persons who've never heard of Linux? I'd suggest that you target persons who use commercial versions of UNIX on expensive workstations at the office, and Windows 95 at home. This person has probably heard of Linux, but has little or no s

Re: DepenGNUian Logo

1997-02-21 Thread Daniel Stringfield
> > I think Gromit would be a better mascot. Ultimately he was much > > more resourceful and capable than de penguin. > > Yep, you're right, I guess I was stuck in "penguin mode" since it seems > like the penguin somehow became the official animal of Linux. Gromit > would be a better mascot

Re: IPX loading every 5 minutes

1997-02-21 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, John T. Larkin wrote: > > properly. Now I'm having a similar problem, except instead of not being > > loaded, it's being loaded every five minutes. An excerpt from my messages > > > Okay, now does anyone have a good idea as to how to suppress it? :) > > The three ways I

Re: Writing to a boot floppy.

1997-02-21 Thread Bob Clark
Make the target "zdisk" and you will have a boot floppy. Bubonic wrote: > > I recompiled my kernel today (without any major problems) to 2.027, > however, I can't seem to figure out how to create a new boot floppy. I have > tried: cp vmlinux /dev/fd0 to a DOS-formatted disk, but when I tried to

Return-path header, try once more

1997-02-21 Thread digger vermont
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Re: Unstable vs. Stable

1997-02-21 Thread Daniel Robbins
On 20 Feb 1997, Guy Maor wrote: > Daniel Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Since it seems like all the bug fixes go in unstable, isn't the > > unstable stuff more stable than stable? > > All the new bugs go into stable too. Sometimes they are very bad. > > > Guy I wish there was a di

Re: debian-newbie list

1997-02-21 Thread Ioannis Tambouras
>> I'd like to see a standard for support questions that has people put >> keywords in the subject line. No need for such complications. Debian-user is fun, and I like the the subject lines the way they are. Sure, some answers are repeated, so what! That is part of the fun, the audience gues

Re: Unstable vs. Stable

1997-02-21 Thread Guy Maor
Daniel Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Since it seems like all the bug fixes go in unstable, isn't the > unstable stuff more stable than stable? All the new bugs go into stable too. Sometimes they are very bad. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe"

Re: IPX loading every 5 minutes

1997-02-21 Thread Paul J. Clegg
I wanted to thank everyone for helping me track down that stupid IPX message problem. I got lots of different ideas, and this time, I'm SAVING them. :) ...Paul ...Paul, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://megadodo.com/~cleggp 37 Briarwood Lane, Apt 4, Marlboro, MA 01752 (508) 481-2167 Visi

Re: debian-newbie list

1997-02-21 Thread Richard Weil
Hi, I am a Linux (and Unix) "newbie" so before installing Debian I followed this list for a while to get a sense of the likely problems and possible solutions. Even without posting the list is helpful, but the sheer volume of messages is difficult to handle. I think Bruce's idea of building a web