Re: [XEmacs at fault?!] Munging of del and backspace

2003-04-12 Thread Miles Bader
On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 08:06:27PM +0200, Mikael Hedin wrote: > Ok, this actually works for me too (except C-h k <-- doesn't say the > "translated from

Re: [XEmacs at fault?!] Munging of del and backspace

2003-04-12 Thread Mikael Hedin
Ok, this actually works for me too (except C-h k <-- doesn't say the "translated from

Re: Munging of del and backspace

2003-04-12 Thread Miles Bader
On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 09:51:01PM +0200, Kai Gro?johann wrote: > For backward compatibility, many modes bind RET, TAB, DEL instead of > , , . It's not just for backward compatibility, it's for portability -- RET, TAB, DEL are portable among different devices (because emacs takes care to make sure

Re: Munging of del and backspace

2003-04-12 Thread Kai Großjohann
Mikael Hedin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But why is emacs f**ing with the keysyms? If I try to map DEL to a > command, I have to press backspace in emacs! It has historical reasons. I wouldn't worry about it too much -- it's just a name. Back in the days of yore^H^H^H^Hascii terminals, there

Re: Munging of del and backspace

2003-04-11 Thread Miles Bader
On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 10:23:24PM +0200, Mikael Hedin wrote: > > `DEL' is the ASCII DEL character, which since time immemorial has meant > > delete-backward-char in emacs. `Delete' is a labelled key on (some) > > keyboards, which usually means delete-char. > > Uh, I should have mentioned I run

Re: Munging of del and backspace

2003-04-11 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Micce> Uh, I should have mentioned I run under X. Miles> So you can think of `DEL' as the emacs abstraction for whatever Miles> key happens to delete the previous character on your keyboard, Miles> be it labelled BS, <--, or Micce> For tty emacs, I would understand, but with X, it must be Micce>

Re: Munging of del and backspace

2003-04-11 Thread Mikael Hedin
Miles Bader writes: > The reason you are confused is because you (apparently) think that `DEL' and > `Delete' are the same thing; they are not. `DEL' is the ASCII DEL character, > which since time immemorial has meant delete-backward-char in emacs. > `Delete' is a labelled key on (some) keybo

Re: Munging of del and backspace

2003-04-11 Thread Miles Bader
On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 06:49:22PM +0200, Mikael Hedin wrote: > When I run xemacs, and type C-h k Delete, it talks about the DEL key. > On C-h k Backspace, it talks about the BS key. > > When I run emacs and type C-h k Delete, it talks about C-d, and C-h k > Backspace talks about DEL. > > They bo

Munging of del and backspace

2003-04-11 Thread Mikael Hedin
Hi! When I run xemacs, and type C-h k Delete, it talks about the DEL key. On C-h k Backspace, it talks about the BS key. When I run emacs and type C-h k Delete, it talks about C-d, and C-h k Backspace talks about DEL. They both do the right thing when deleting chars in a text. But why is emacs