Re: Bug#65320: gettext: fails on postinst

2002-02-01 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > Quick questions: > > > > debian-emacs-policy says: > > > > D) Each add-on package must declare relevant dependencies on other > > packages (including other add-on packages). Note that add-on > > packages should no

Re: Bug#65320: gettext: fails on postinst

2002-02-01 Thread Santiago Vila
Peter S Galbraith wrote: > Quick questions: > > debian-emacs-policy says: > > D) Each add-on package must declare relevant dependencies on other > packages (including other add-on packages). Note that add-on > packages should not depend on emacsen-common directly, but rather > on

Re: Bug#65320: gettext: fails on postinst

2002-01-31 Thread Peter S Galbraith
> Hello. > > I have re-read the logs for this bug from the beginning, and I see > that I have been wrongly assuming (sorry!) that a Depends: emacsen-common in > gettext would force the user to install some emacs flavour, but in fact > emacsen-common just says: > > Depends: bsdmainutils > > Just

Re: Bug#65320: gettext: fails on postinst

2002-01-31 Thread Santiago Vila
Rob Browning wrote: > Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [ emacsen-common is a relatively small package. Making gettext to > > depend on it, even if you don't plan to use emacs po-mode at all, > > would not be such a tragedy ]. > > If you're OK with that, I'm OK with that -- it'll probab

Re: Bug#65320: gettext: fails on postinst

2002-01-31 Thread Rob Browning
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just in case I'm missing anything: Am I right that it's completely > possible to install emacsen-common and not installing any emacs > flavour? Right. Things need to depend on emacsen-common to make sure that the required infrastructure is in place, bu

Re: Bug#65320: gettext: fails on postinst

2002-01-31 Thread Santiago Vila
Hello. I have re-read the logs for this bug from the beginning, and I see that I have been wrongly assuming (sorry!) that a Depends: emacsen-common in gettext would force the user to install some emacs flavour, but in fact emacsen-common just says: Depends: bsdmainutils Just in case I'm missing

Re: Bug#65320: gettext: fails on postinst

2002-01-31 Thread Rob Browning
> * gettext does not need a Depends, it just needs a better > emacs-package-install implementation, namely, one that does not fail > if emacsen-common has not been configured yet. If we can figure out a way that we're *sure* will work right, then I'm OK with changing emacsen-common so that add-on

Re: Bug#65320: gettext: fails on postinst

2002-01-31 Thread Rob Browning
Toby Speight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What happens if emacsen is installed *after* package 'foo' that uses > it? AIUI, foo won't get its emacs components configured at all then. Actually now that I've thought about this yet further, I don't think this is a problem. If emacsen-common is bei

Re: Bug#65320: gettext: fails on postinst

2002-01-31 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > Toby Speight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Rob> If this were in fact "safe", then we could think about changing > > > Rob> debian-emacs-policy to fully eliminate the requirement that packages > > > Rob> that have emacs components *depend* o

Re: Bug#65320: gettext: fails on postinst

2002-01-30 Thread Peter S Galbraith
> Toby Speight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Rob> If this were in fact "safe", then we could think about changing > > Rob> debian-emacs-policy to fully eliminate the requirement that packages > > Rob> that have emacs components *depend* on emacsen, but instead they > > Rob> just check for /usr

Re: Bug#65320: gettext: fails on postinst

2002-01-30 Thread Rob Browning
reassign 65320 gettext thanks (Santiago, if you haven't been following this lately, check the bug log, and/or the debian-emacsen list. Thanks.) Toby Speight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Rob> If this were in fact "safe", then we could think about changing > Rob> debian-emacs-policy to fully e

Re: Bug#65320: gettext: fails on postinst

2002-01-30 Thread Toby Speight
0> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 0> Rob L. Browning mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ("Rob") wrote: Rob> If this were in fact "safe", then we could think about changing Rob> debian-emacs-policy to fully eliminate the requirement that packages Rob> that have emacs components *depend* on emacsen, but ins

Re: Bug#65320: gettext: fails on postinst

2002-01-28 Thread Rob Browning
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > These are the two best options, but I'm *really* hesitant to try and > guarantee that emacsen-common will work properly before it has been > configured. This means second-guessing the whole package > installation/dependency process and committing to some

Re: Bug#65320: gettext: fails on postinst

2002-01-28 Thread Rob Browning
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. Make gettext to Depend on emacsen-common. The wrong thing to do, IMHO. > You can use gettext without emacs if you want, and you should not be > forced to install software you don't really need. or > 3. Make "emacs-package-install" smarter, so that