On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 03:28:55PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Correct, I am not a Debian developer. I have considered it several times
> but have been put off by the amount of documentation. I have to be able to
> jump in and do something or I lose interest.
Don't we all?
This might be
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:12:33PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Quoting "Roberto C. Sánchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> The same
>> exact thing could be said of Apache, MySQL, PostgreSQL, and any of a
>> number of other packages which received tremendous testing upstream.
>> None of them have e
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 03:13:59PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> You are also free to properly package it yourself and find a sponsor to
>> upload it for you (assuming you are not already a Debian Developer
>> yourself, which I am guessing you are not).
>
> I do not see the need to do anythin
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 09:36:24PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ser2net, a small daemon in a package maintained by me, cannot write
> its own pidfile. Since it forks and detaches by default,
> start-stop-daemon's --make-pidfile option is of no use as well, since
> the daemon that ends up run
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 10:13:50PM +0100, SZALAY Attila wrote:
> Thanks to all!
>
> Now I'm subsribed into that list too.
Uhm. This is the one and only must-subscribe list for Debian Developers.
Please do not unsubscribe from it. Ever.
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On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 04:15:24PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:49:22 +0100, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >log_daemon_msg "Starting Foo Daemon" "foo"
> >start-stop-daemon --whatever --you --want --here
>
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:24:46PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * Petter Reinholdtsen [Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:00:42 +0100]:
> > It is not obvious for me. Can you explain why it should be obvious
> > that you do not plan to patch the daemon to write its own pid file?
> > For me, the obvious solution
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:50:23AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Friday 09 November 2007 10:45, Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
> > I'd suggest that if ftp-master is down, the message should go to both d-d-a
> > and the infrastructure list.
>
> I'm not sure I see the benefit to also have it
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 06:53:12PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> It's not uncommon to see buildds (actually build tools) override the
> package/Release signature warning.
That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The
update frequency of that repository (wh
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 12:40:16PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:00:13 +0100, Wouter Verhelst
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >That is one way to look at it. The other way would be that these are
> >just three lines of "code" being duplicated
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 03:16:28PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:47:49 +, Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >This one time, at band camp, Marc Haber said:
> >> How many seconds until the "please make pidfile location configurable"
> >> wishlist bug?
> >
> >Which is
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:24:12AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:27:14PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > * Wouter Verhelst:
>
> > > That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The
> > > update frequency of
On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 03:41:20PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Postfix has a reputation for being faster and more secure than exim.
When talking about security, exim doesn't exactly have a horribly bad
track record. It's not qmail, but then I wouldn't *want* to use qmail
for other reasons.
> Why
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 10:38:51PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> So what? Space is cheap these days.
Contrary to popular belief, space will never become free.
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 09:32:02AM +0100, Michael Hanke wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 07:40:52AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > if you look at the buildd report for latest wordnet on sparc at
> >
> >
> > http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?&pkg=wordnet&ver=1%3A3.0-6&arch
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 08:07:59PM +0100, Vincent Fourmond wrote:
> I saw you closed the bug - I however wanted to point to debsums. As
> mentioned, SIBGUSes can be caused by corrupted binaries;
Much can be caused by corrupted binaries: when a binary is corrupt, then
segfaults, bus errors, and s
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:17:16PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> Luk Claes wrote:
> > Neil Williams wrote:
> >> i.e. native should be a last resort - used only when it is all but
> >> impossible for the package to be used outside Debian or some distro
> >> fundamentally based on Debian like Ubuntu.
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:35:12PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> tags 457353 + wontfix
> thanks
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 07:20:57PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
> > You're missing a .diff.gz, which means that this is a native package. This
> > package is in no way specific to Debian, w
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 03:16:36PM +0100, Vincent Danjean wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Anyone who wants to package your source for something else than Debian
> > is then free to completely and utterly ignore your debian/ directory...
>
> I'm trying to package tw
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 04:32:39PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 14:23 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:17:16PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> > > I'd just add:
> > > * it isn't in the spirit of free software to
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:09:13PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:36:54 +0100, Andreas Metzler
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I do not think that is really necessary. I doubt there are lots of new
> >qmail installations nowadays by people that are not aready well versed
> >in it
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 07:18:53PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 07:11:01PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
> > Once we are at it: If we don't do clean shutdowns of the services anymore,
> > why
> > don't you just turn off power instead of taking the pain to kill the
> >
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:37:48PM +1300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 20/01/10 at 00:48 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 02:22:33PM +1300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> >
> > > Why spend a lot of time on tasks that provide little benefit, and also
> > > some disadvantages (in some
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 09:32:39AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 08:54 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit :
> > IMHO the best solution to this (unavoidable) problem is to enable a
> > configuration feature controled by some kind of priority tag in the
> > desktop files. Thi
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:30:01PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> The layout sucks: a good menu is hard to do because it must not be too
> deep (too many clicks/movements to reach an application) nor too crowded
> (too many applications in one submenu). The Debian menu is an
> achievement in fail
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 01:54:43PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 13:10 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit :
> > > The problem is not to implement this; it already exists. The problem is
> > > that maintainers don???t fill these fields properly. I mean, even KDE
> > > develop
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 09:39:45PM +0100, Luca Falavigna wrote:
> Hi,
>
> FTP team and I are currently writing a new feature in dak which will
> collect changelog entries and store them in projectb, to be later used
> for other purposes (e.g. to write point release changelogs, see [1]).
Isn't thi
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 01:34:42PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le vendredi 19 février 2010 à 13:02 +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> > The fact that Gnome doesn't show the Debian menu (thereby requiring me
> > to either find that mythical option somewhere which would
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:58:18PM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> hello (6.6-1) unstable; urgency=low
>
> * New upstream release.
>- Fixes a buffer overflow in excessively long greetings (CVE-2038-001)
>
> -- Simon McVittie Tue, April 1, 2038 09:00:00 +
>
> (I conject
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 01:21:15PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:02:24PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > The reason would be size. I don't see anything else there.
>
> > For network based boots, specifically high performance cluster, the size
> > can make a real
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:26:48AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:05:03PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > This is not really a big deal in the case of d-i, since first, when
> > things fail, they fail for everyone who uses the same image, and sec
Hello world,
wou...@celtic:/var/lib/dpkg/info$ ls *md5sums|wc -l
2340
wou...@celtic:/var/lib/dpkg/info$ ls *sums|wc -l
2340
wou...@celtic:/var/lib/dpkg/info$ dpkg -l|sed -e'1,/=/d'|wc -l
2483
I must say I was somewhat surprised by these numbers. Out of 2483
packages installed on my laptop, 23
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 03:17:52PM +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> > Wouter Verhelst writes:
> >
> > > Or is it useful to be able to say "if it doesn't check out, it's
> > > certainly corrupt, and if it does c
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 10:19:21PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 08:08:38PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > I think its about time to require to generate checksums for packages
> > and make all packages which do not do so RC buggy.
>
> Well, RC buggy is probably a tad
Hi Adam,
(long time no see!)
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 04:13:56PM +, Adam Conrad wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:00:31AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:26:48AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > >
> > > You could obviously just fall
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 03:53:14PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Daniel Leidert
> wrote:
>
> > What's the problem, to write a short manual page, that points to the
> > --help switch? All the maintainer would have to do is to provide the
> > intention of the command, po
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 04:36:56PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> I can’t help noticing, though, that it would only duplicate
> functionality that is already present in search engines of desktop help
> systems (which are also able to search in manual pages, FWIW).
I can't help noticing, though,
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:50:12AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le vendredi 05 mars 2010 à 17:41 +, brian m. carlson a écrit :
> > This still has the problem that I don't know immediately where to get
> > the documentation. Do I use the GNOME help system? KDE's? man? info?
> > a DVI? a
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:59:00PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Frank Lin PIAT writes:
>
> > Find a patch attached, for a smooth transition from DEBIAN/md5sums to a
> > recent checksum.
>
> > The way it is implemented, is that the dh_md5sums is a symlink to the
> > new dh_checksums. The new help
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:13:31AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote:
>
> [Wouter Verhelst]
> > At any rate, a PGP signature takes a lot of data; much more so than
> > a checksum. It's therefore more economical to produce a signed
> > package.checksums file than it is
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 05:16:55AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Harald Braumann writes:
>
> > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 03:32:14PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >>
> >> Having package.checksums be GPG-signed will take a significant change in
> >>
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:02:22PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> and having Essential in the Packages file makes it harder than it
> could be to avoid Essential if the list was in /etc.
If the list is in /etc, an ignorant user may modify the list (remember,
/etc is system-local!) and break th
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 08:58:28AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst writes:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 05:16:55AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> >> Harald Braumann writes:
> >>
> >> > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:07:47AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> *.changes file and hence its original signature, but given that we throw
> out the *.changes file anyway,
This is not true.
wou...@merkel:/org/ftp.debian.org/queue/done$ ls *ges|wc -l
28969
These are only the *active* changes files,
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 04:12:46PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst writes:
>
> > This is not true.
>
> > wou...@merkel:/org/ftp.debian.org/queue/done$ ls *ges|wc -l
> > 28969
>
> > These are only the *active* changes files, though:
>
>
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 04:52:07PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> You add an additional ar member that contains the signed checksums of all
> of the files in data.tar.gz, possibly another additional member that
> contains the signed checksums for control.tar.gz, or you document some
> convention so t
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 09:14:13AM +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 12:39 +0100, Harald Braumann wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 08:31:40AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > > Russ Allbery writes:
> > > > Simon McVittie writes:
> > >
> > > >> Most packages (in terms of
a second time? Or would
> > > this replace dh_*sums during package build time?
> >
> > I think it would replace dh_*sums during package build time and make
> > obsolete including md5sums in the control.tar.gz. You don't really want
> > the signature and checksums
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 09:28:58PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> Again from Wouter's comments:
> "It is of course perfectly fine for dpkg-source to error out if it
> detects that things are not completely in order, or if it detects that
> features were requested that are not supported with the sour
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:13:20PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 03:11:12PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> > > You mean like the existing pages on buildd.debian.org? You just need to
> > > feed them the list of affected p
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 09:53:56AM +, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On 2010-03-28, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > With old buildd, it was always possible to add this bug # after the
> > fact. I don't know what the case is with new buildd/new wanna-build, but
> > it might be a g
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 07:03:00PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm trying to solicit comments on what people are using for development
> environments and how well it's working. Here are some situations I
> imagine are common:
>
> 1. workstation running sid
>
> I've followed this
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 04:14:57PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Apr 08, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
>
> > I also don't really see the issues with bindv6only=0. If you listen on
> > all interfaces, it makes is easier. If you only listen on specific
> > interfaces, it's not in the way.
> This is
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:52:50AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:02:52 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum
> wrote:
> >On 22/07/10 at 14:22 +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> >> > > That's an interesting idea. But where is the money going to come
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 04:56:03PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> With a free form field called "System specific information, please paste
> here the output of “reportbug --template ”".
>
> That could even be reasonable.
Except many people won't bother doing that.
Currently, the barrier to subm
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 06:04:42PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 04:56:03PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > With a free form field called "System specific information, please paste
> > &g
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:27:24PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> source.debian.org is working on importing source packages into a Git
> repository and storing the history as one revision per new source package
> upload.
That gives a 404. source.debian.net doesn't, but gives you a page with
as full
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 03:38:39PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> So the only purpose of "fsl" is to provide these namespace-eating
> convenience symlinks ? If so I'm not sure that this is a good purpose
> for a a package.
wou...@celtic:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/gcc
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 jun 6 07:23 /us
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:05:17AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
> Users may but developers will be looking for that debug output and
> starting the program from the command line explicitly to be able to
> collect it. (Filing a bug will usually result in the user being asked
> to start the program fr
On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 11:15:43AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > At the end of September, I called for talk submissions for the FOSDEM 2011
> > distributions miniconf. Unfortunately, to date, the number of
> >
Hi Raphael,
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:00:21PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> = How can you help? =
>
> * First of all you can go and squash bugs!
This would be greatly simplified if there was a way for a random
packager to easily figure out if the DACA tools has found something in
their pack
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 11:32:07PM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> * README.test
>
> Although many packages include a test suite that is run after package build,
> there are packages that do not have such a suite, or not one that can be
> run as part of the build process. It was proposed to standa
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:13:38PM +1000, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> JFYI.
>
> Debian has been represented at the meeting by Enrico Zini (who has
> blogged about various aspects of the meeting as well [1,2,3]) and David
> Kalnischkies. In the end, quite some pieces of Debian technologies have
> a
Hi Roger,
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 05:08:18PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 07:42:32PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> > I disagree here.
> > Alternatives in build-* relationships *are* mentioned by policy. In fact,
> > there's even an example in section 7.1.
>
> This is co
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 07:12:00PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 03:36:47PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 05:08:18PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> > > This is correct. I was thinking about drafting a patch for Policy
> >
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 10:09:37PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 09:12:18PM +0100, Oliver Korff wrote:
> > On 01.03.2011 18:24, Philipp Kern wrote:
> > > Needs-Build means that no builder has come around to build it yet. This
> > > includes reasons like "because non-free's
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 08:38:42PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 03/01/2011 06:19 AM, ximalaya wrote:
> >Hi all,
> [snip]
> >
> >BTW, I ever tried on Redhat Linux 9, no such problem.
> >
>
> This is the interesting part. Is RH keeping their patches, or are
> upstream and other distros just not d
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 11:02:47AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am Do den 3. Mär 2011 um 3:35 schrieb Chow Loong Jin:
> > > A system has not to listen for any unused and unneeded services ever. A
> > > firewall is to control services you _need_.
> > >
> > > All that zeroconf stuff is ab
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 11:32:01AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> A user that installs Debian on his system will do that due to the
> reputation in security. If he want to have a simpler system he would
> install, for example, Ubuntu, Mac or Windows.
[...]
> I do not think that Debian should be good
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 01:47:35PM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 12:24 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > If you're unfamiliar with computers, on the other hand, chances that
> > you'll be able to figure out how to enable convenience services are
aste of time. It's far more efficient to
actually find out what the hell is wrong with a source package or with
the toolchain and fix it, rather than trying to build a package two or
more times only to fail it, so that once a human actually found out what
the hell is wrong, it can be rebu
cks
policy-compliance, which it must do in code, not by parsing an SGML
file. Think about it.
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"Stop breathing down my neck." "My breathing is merely a simulati
bad one. His only downside
is that he's not so communicative, but hey, nobody's perfect.
Some might say he's a dictator. I say he happens to be the one who gets
the job done -- and I'm sure it's a hell of a job, too.
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es a problem (which I'm afraid is likely to be
the case).
> And if we are going to use experimental more and more, like aj
> suggested, this is going to be more and more of a problem in the future.
Since experimental isn't autobuilt, I fail to see your point.
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Op vr 17-10-2003, om 15:12 schreef Sven Luther:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:53:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:25:04PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 01:52:38PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> > > > Pleas
dd.debian.org/stats/ . I wrote some documentation on what the
different states actually mean; you can find it at
http://people.debian.org/~wouter/wanna-build-states
If that convinces you that human intervention is required (that's not
always the case), you should contact the people that can ac
Op zo 19-10-2003, om 20:04 schreef Sven Luther:
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 12:15:40PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Op zo 19-10-2003, om 10:44 schreef Stefano Zacchiroli:
> > > I've never understood which is the right/polity way of requests for
> > > triggering a
e"
header in debian/control), because of architecture-specific problems
(toolchain), or because there was a bug in the package. Your suggestion
would only be The Right Thing in the last case...
(no particular objection to the rest of your mail, though)
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Op ma 20-10-2003, om 09:07 schreef Sven Luther:
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 10:13:06PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > These all boil down to the same problem: ocaml was upgraded to
> > ocaml-3.07, while the packages that were available at the time depended
> > on ocaml-3.06-
Op ma 20-10-2003, om 11:13 schreef Sven Luther:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:57:04AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > Ideally, it could be automated, by delaying the build
> > > of these packages by one day, and it would be fine.
> >
> > That's an optio
eeze will work.
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If you're running Microsoft Windows, either scan your computer on
viruses, or stop wasting my bandwith and remove me from your
addressbook. *now*.
signat
ntil at least one autobuild succeeds.
You're going to have to explain this one to me. You want to hold them
back (not try to build them) until one build succeeds? In that scenario,
no build will succeed, but I hope you meant something else.
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d.debian.org/build.php?&pkg=digikam&ver=0.5.1-1&arch=m68k
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opinion you have with Ryan regarding the way autobuilding for the mips
architecture should be handled.
Hoping you'll reconsider this,
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e decent string handling, bounds checking, and
an intended audience of beginners. FreePascal is, I think, a good
candidate.
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If you're running Microsoft Windows, either scan y
l,
> pointing wanna-build at auric and crossing your fingers.
Sure; that's why nobody's suggesting that.
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If you're running Microsoft Windows, either sca
e concept of significant whitespace, which a lot
of us simply don't like. That's a personal opinion, and in most cases
probably not a rational thing, so providing arguments won't help. Can we
cut this thread here, please? (yeah, I know I started it)
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spaces are used to
> make programs easy to read by machines; in Python spaces are used to make
> programs easy to read by human.
then why are they significant?
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"St
of things. And to detect other kinds of
bugs, too. If you're going to keep packages in incoming like this,
people won't be able to test it until it's built on all architectures.
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 03:43:31AM -0600, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:02:17AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > I don't think people would like it if their package stayed in incoming
> > for multiple weeks because there's
lf.
[...]
As much as I like this idea in principle, storing signatures inside
.debs has a serious problem: it won't work for us buildd maintainers.
As I explain in my document on wanna-build (usually at
http://people.debian.org/~wouter/wanna-build-states, but due to some
problems with t
not really RC by themselves
here...)
> If the bug is caused by a problem in another package then it should be
> reassigned (and more importantly fixed).
Of course.
> The bug is still RC, even if it only affects dependent packages.
Not always.
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the .deb. Try "dpkg --control
foo.deb; cd DEBIAN; ls".
apt should sanity-check whether that information matches the information
it already has (from, e.g., the Packages file). If not, it should scream
as loud as possible.
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On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 10:16:32PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> Hi, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >> So unless you have a suggestion that would solve this particular issue,
> >> I'm afraid this idea
s logs.
I regularly have to log in to both machines to fix some issue (once
every week at least); if something "weird" is going on, I'll find out
then. Also, I get logs of all sorts mailed back on a daily and weekly
basis. Those logs I do examine conspiciously.
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ible future DD's?
If not, I suggest we forget about this, as it won't be feasible.
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"Stop breathing down my neck." "My breathing is merely a simulatio
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:08:10PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst:
> > Especially in the case of larger .debs, that would probably reduce the
> > actual signature size as well...
>
> ?? A hash is a hash, and should be independent of file size.
Obviously, so
dling, or is it ok for them if they sign in these rare cases with
> their normal key?
I don't see why that wouldn't be the case (but perhaps that's related to
the above)
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ise, they must pay to be able to volunteer?
>
> Sure, if you care about security.
Let me reiterate. You want to set up something with the Debian Project's
machines so that I have to pay for the privilege of contributing?
Thanks, but no thanks. Volunteers don't work that way.
ty updates are handled), it could technically run
anywhere.
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"Stop breathing down my neck." "My breathing is merely a simulation."
"So is my neck, stop
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