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Russ Allbery dijo [Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 07:08:40PM -0700]:
> > If you don't trust a hardware random number generator, you should not
> > xor it and another random number source together; after all, if you
> > believe the numbers coming out of the hardware random source are not
> > actually random,
Martijn van Oosterhout dijo [Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 10:09:02AM +0200]:
> > Excuse me if I'm blunt here, but I understand that, on the point of
> > using entropy to seed a PRNG, if you have several shitty entropy
> > sources and one _really_ good one, and you xor them all together, the
> > resulting o
Christoph Anton Mitterer dijo [Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 04:21:36AM +0200]:
> On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 20:14 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> > debian-keyring is not useful for automatic authentication of source
> > packages.
> Well to be honest I never fully understood the idea behind
> debian-keyring...
> IM
ibly others like LevelDB,
> Tokyo/Kyoto, etc. we don't have to settle on one common solution).
> (...)
> Gunnar Wolf
>ruby-bdb (U)
Of course, given the purpose of this library is to facilitate
interoperation with BDB from Ruby, if BDB is dropped, this package
will just be drop
Christoph Anton Mitterer dijo [Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:24:07PM +0200]:
> > I do feel the keyring-maint package is a leftover from days long
> > gone. Nowadays the keyring is kept at a DVCS tree, and regularly
> > exported to a publicly accessible instance.
> Any reason for that "internal" repo? I m
Raphael Hertzog dijo [Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 09:17:25AM +0200]:
> > FWIW, I was thinking about including the possible disappearance as one
> > of the points to talk about in the DebConf BoF we proposed regarding
> > keyring-maint.
>
> Why not switch it to something more dynamic ?
>
> Make the packa
Joerg Jaspert dijo [Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:36:08PM +0200]:
> >> And should we open the archive for a series of "i hate $tool, i never
> >> want it" packages, where do we stop? In theory we could end up with a
> >> load of them.
> > Joerg, please be reasonable.
>
> I entirely am, and thats why suc
The Wanderer dijo [Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 11:18:12PM -0400]:
> > It must work without systemd well enough to be able to cleanly reboot
> > the system from the GUI, after upgrading.
> >
> > Anything beyond that is nice-to-have, but definitely NOT required.
>
> I, for one, would be highly displeased
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James Page dijo [Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 10:57:44AM +0100]:
> (...)
> The wider intent is that all maintainers of packages that depend on
> mysql-server or mysql-client are encouraged to add as alternative
> dependencies the virtual packages virtual-mysql-server[1] or
> virtual-mysql-client[2].
>
> T
I cannot make a full, fair comparison between desktop environments, as
I use none. I saw several people bark at GNOME 3, but most of them are
happy adopters nowadays, so, I don't believe that factor should carry
much weigh nowadays. Besides, as Jordi says, making end users re-learn
everything *agai
Jens Schüßler dijo [Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 10:37:33AM +0200]:
> > ...And I'd like us to consider this point as well: How important are
> > CD images nowadays? Who has a CD that cannot read a DVD?
>
> You may visit some poorer people in the world.
> But hey, if they want CD-bread, why don't they ju
peter green dijo [Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 01:27:11PM +0100]:
> Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> >I would ask that DDs make some effort to help
> >those with weak keys get their new, stronger keys signed. Please sign
> >responsibly[4],
> If you have signed someones old key is it considered "responsible"
> to
françai s dijo [Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:17:00PM -0300]:
> Members of forum, especially the ReactOS developers, I could not
> resist the urge to now post the following message:
>
> This message is mainly for developers of ReactOS operating system.
Umh, I'm sorry, this is Debian-land, you will not
The Wanderer dijo [Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:10:41AM -0400]:
> >>> Can you give an example of people doing that in case of systemd?
> >>> Because so far, everything I heard was similar to GNOME, where:
> >>> • systemd provided a feature.
> >>
> >> This is the problem. The init system should not be p
Sam Hartman dijo [Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 09:58:29AM +]:
>
> Early morning, Wednesday, November 19, the results of the GR on init
> system coupling will be announced.
> No result will make everyone happy. In fact, that morning, some of our
> developers, users and contributors will be really unha
Joey Hess dijo [Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 05:04:10PM -0400]:
> It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
> originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
> everyone well, but I'm out.
How can the Master Fisherman thank us for all the fish?
Yes, pulling the f
Daniel Pocock dijo [Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:08:23PM +0100]:
> I didn't want to be too specific, to give other people a chance to make
> suggestions
>
> However, one possibility is that anybody maintaining an essential
> package and anybody who is a DPL delegate would be able to veto. The
> implic
Tobias Frost dijo [Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 05:22:18PM +0100]:
> >> I have just noticed your blog post on planet.debian.org:
> >> https://np237.livejournal.com/34598.html
> >
> > You lack any sense of humor, really!
>
> Sometimes, a joke is just inappropriate, regardless how funny it may seem.
> Somet
Before anything else, Michal: Please remember Debian is a
volunteer-run project. It is sometimes tempting to reply mails in a
haste and making ironic remarks to drive your points further. But
mails such as this one are not welcome in Debian. Please assume good
faith, and treat everybody with respec
Russ Allbery dijo [Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:06:36AM -0700]:
> nginx seems to be the one everyone is using these days, but there are tons
> of web servers in Debian.
>
> grep-aptavail -F Provides -s Package,Description httpd
>
> returns aolserver4-daemon, boa, bozohttpd, cherokee, lighttpd, mat
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Jonas Smedegaard dijo [Thu, May 31, 2012 at 05:52:47PM +0200]:
> > > You avoided my question, it seems: What does "Maintainer:" mean, then?
> >
> > What does "Uploaders:" field mean?
>
> You still avoid my question: What does "Maintainer:" mean?
This is getting silly. Please stop the word-defini
Svante Signell dijo [Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:22:21PM +0200]:
> Hi,
>
> A Short question. Is it possible to ITP a new release of some software
> not being even considered by the DM, for whatever reason. Wishlist bugs
> are submitted, etc. According to if there is no reply of bug reports,
> there se
Svante Signell dijo [Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:45:13PM +0200]:
> > It's *usually* not what you want to do. There are several cases where
> > different versions of the same program are available in Debian, and I
> > am unfamiliar with the case at hand, but it's usually where a specific
> > older versi
t
the entire path on my particular system becomes
debian/packagename/usr/share/man/man1/packagename.1)?
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appropriate. Still, I'm glad to learn it's Debian kosher to hard-code
the paths.
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Per Andersson dijo [Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 08:03:24PM +0200]:
> > redis tests need em-synchrony, which needs newer em-http-request and
> > which needs mongrel (not sure where it needs, it tries to load mongrel
> > during tests) and http-parser.rb (packaging http-parser separately -
> > needs some hel
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Hi,
I am about to file a bug on ~30 packages, most of them Ruby libraries,
some of them packages that include a Ruby library between their
outputs. I am still going through the packages to get a final list,
but it will mostly affect:
• libabstract-ruby
• libamazon-ruby
• libamrita2-ruby
• libesca
Dominik George dijo [Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 04:30:59PM +0200]:
> Hi, maintainers of unar and unrar-free,
Hi (as a maintainer for neither of them but a frustrated user),
> as you might have seen on the BTS, I have today filed a bug report on
> unrar-free and revisited an old bug, both of which make
Steve McIntyre dijo [Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 04:40:48PM +0100]:
> Hi folks,
>
> This goes back to during the wheezy release cycle. There was a little
> discussion around a change in tasksel [1], but rather too late in the
> day for the change to make sense. Now we have rather more time, I
> feel. Let
Thorsten Glaser dijo [Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 02:27:44PM +]:
> > Let's tech committee it :)
>
> I’d ask them to solve the situation of gnome/xfce depending on systemd,
> or something like that, but not a decision whether we want to support
> one or multiple init systems, and if not all currently
Kevin Chadwick dijo [Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 08:43:13PM +]:
> > Kevin, please change your tone on Debian lists. Your behavior is
> > starting to border on malicious. If this continues, I will request that
> > you get removed from the Debian lists. I'm sure others would join me.
> >
> > You're sho
Marco d'Itri dijo [Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 04:32:46PM +0200]:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove
>
> I am still not 100% persuaded that this would be easy to do, but at
> least I think that it has more merit than the old "move all to /"...
>
> How much complex would it be to implement
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Zygmunt Krynicki dijo [Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 01:09:52PM +0200]:
> We could use this pattern:
>
> libjsfoo package ships a file that is exposed as
> http://*/javascript/foo/foo.min.js
>
> libjsfoo package ships a file that is exposed as
> http://*/javascript/foo/foo.js
>
> A config option somewher
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ls that several people have flagged this as a bug, but
(barring the obvious solution of building on an i386 machine in VirtualBox)
I wasn't able to find a solution.
What should I do to build for multiple architectures?
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do a binary of full build.
I can't see from the rules file or the control file why this happens, but
perhaps someone well versed in debian packaging can spot the reason. In
case it helps, I've uploaded the full source as a tarball:
http://debian.blazingangles.net/velleman-0.1-2.tar.gz.
of deleting it, I created a backup
directory for it. I missed the fact that the warning now complains about
the files in that directory, so I thought I had not gotten rid of it.
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martin f krafft dijo [Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 05:07:39PM +0100]:
> Because "choosing this option" does not modify anything but the
> debconf cache, and only the postinst script modifies… no wait,
> "choosing this option" only changes the in-memory state of some UI
> widget and hitting enter then infor
Charles Plessy dijo [Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 09:59:34AM +0900]:
> If there is ambiguity about credit, perhaps the BTS boilerplate could be
> amended to include a disclaimer that not all of it shall come to the uploader.
>
> Recenlty, I have uploaded new packages with changelogs like the following.
>
Jakub Wilk dijo [Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 03:08:50PM +0100]:
> Now that we have a concept of a “team upload”[0], I'd like to have
> putting team's name in the changelog trailer officially deprecated.
>
> This would:
> 1) allow to always identify person responsible for a particular upload;
> 2) help to
Charles Plessy dijo [Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:49:37PM +0900]:
> > > r-cran-proto (0.3-9.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
> > >
> > > * Team upload.
> > >
> > > [ Carlos Borroto ]
> > > * Initial release (Closes: #657994)
> > >
> > > -- Charles Plessy Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:47:2
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh dijo [Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 10:46:50AM -0200]:
> Good packaging developers go to great lengths to be sure they are not
> going to distribute anything trojaned. This takes a lot of work, and
> often requires very goot working relationship with upstream to the point
> of g
about me is (with some bits obscured):
$ ud-info -r -u gwolf
Accessing LDAP entry for 'gwolf'
gwolf's password:
Gunnar Wolf
Password last changed : Wed 29/02/2012 UTC
PGP/GPG Key Fingerprints: AB41 C1C6 8AFD 668C A045 EBF8 673A 03E4 C1DB 921F
SSH Auth Keys : ssh-rsa f00..f0
winning bid was the Swiss one.
I hope you can attend DebConf13 in Switzerland (and, of course,
DebConf12 in Nicaragua) and have interest to get involved in the
organizing team, so that a future DebConf can be held in Greece.
- Gunnar Wolf, DebConf chair/organizer.
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Vincent Danjean dijo [Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 02:37:39PM +0100]:
> * We could try to define a file format that allow a conversion (by a
> separate specific tool or at runtime) to various init systems.
> This would avoid to be blocked by the syntax/features of one "source"
> init system.
There i
Jakub Wilk dijo [Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 04:58:45PM +0100]:
> * Neil McGovern , 2012-11-16, 15:46:
> >These bugs aren't gonna get fixed in time - tagging ignore
> >appropriately.
>
> Excellent. Now Mr Crockford can say that his license is good enough
> for Debian.
The bugs are tagged 'ignore' for on
Didier Raboud dijo [Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:21:19PM +0100]:
> > > > I am asking why, when I had a reason to do so, was not able to do a
> > > > source-only upload.
> > > > Is this a feature of dak, or a policy enforcement?
> > >
> > > Both.
> >
> > I'd argue that it's a bug in both.
> >
> > BTW,
Svante Signell dijo [Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 09:52:36AM +0100]:
> Most people I meet (and installing Linux) choose to install some kind of
> Ubuntu distribution. At the same time the number of people installing
> Debian is declining as discussed here lately. Something has gone
> completely wrong with
Mistikos Nik dijo [Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 10:50:57PM +1000]:
> Debian documentation is a joke. It constantly refers to Debian
> versions by their nick names, and not their versions.
Right, more or less like the Windows documentation authors, where it's
clear that 3.11 < 95 < 98 < ME < XP < Vista < 7
Felipe dijo [Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:26:59AM -0300]:
> When using Google Chrome (I cannot assure you that it only occours with
> it), more often surfing on Google+, the system freezes, but the mouse
> pointer keeps working. When I close the notebook screen, it goes to
> "suspend", but when I power
Bjoern Meier dijo [Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:30:36AM +0100]:
> >> Seriously? "that's not what linux is for" What exactly is linux not
> >> for? Jesus, I could vomit if I read this. Maybe or not Linux is - at
> >> the moment - not capable for touch screens. Oh wait, Android is
> >> capable to use touc
Samuel Thibault dijo [Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 02:40:56AM +0200]:
> Scott Kitterman, le Sun 31 Mar 2013 20:37:38 -0400, a écrit :
> > > dak-roulette(1)
> >
> > Excellent. What's the interval on the cron runs? If we get lucky, this
> > could
> > get us to a release really soon.
>
> Which could eve
Uoti Urpala dijo [Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 05:12:46AM +0300]:
> No, that's not what I'm saying. But I think the release team is
> primarily responsible for the policies that harm the work other
> maintainers do on unstable.
>
> A release must not be the only goal for package maintainers, and IMO it
>
Shachar Shemesh dijo [Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 04:20:07PM +0200]:
> On 23/01/14 13:45, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> > The risk of any "outsider" to become a DD for this offer alone is slim to
> > none.
>
> You're forgetting the free LWN subscription.
...Which is a perk I *do* appreciate and use on an al
Jo Shields dijo [Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 04:13:56PM +]:
> My specific process for this has been:
>
> * Create a new blank keyring
> * Install the most recent debian-keyring package from Unstable
> * Import debian-maintainers.gpg, debian-nonupload.gpg and debian-keyring.gpg
> * Wait a long time &
Matthias Urlichs dijo [Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 02:13:34PM +0100]:
> I hereby formally ask the listmasters to please block these persons(?);
> enough is enough.
Sadly, banning explicitly anonymous, cowardish people hiding behind a
funny alias... Is quite a burden that I don't think we can put on our
l
[ dropping insane number of offtopic Cc:s ]
ChaosEsque Team dijo [Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 03:42:47AM -0800]:
> Honestly, f__k systemd and f__k lennart, and f__k the fans of them.
> Where's linus in all of this?
He is maintaining a kernel, not userland?
> What can we do?
> Can we fork debian? (Why d
Thomas Goirand dijo [Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 11:49:48AM +0800]:
> I salute this effort! :)
Yay! :)
> On 03/04/2014 02:13 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > As keyring maintainers, we no longer consider 1024D keys to be
> > trustable. We are not yet mass-removing them, because we don&#x
Jonathan McDowell dijo [Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 05:38:11AM +]:
> > Surely this is well within keyring-maint purview and a GR is thus
> > unnessecary? Running the plan by debian-project seems a reasonable
> > level of consultation.
>
> We didn't need one for removing PGPv3 keys so I don't see why
Vincent Danjean dijo [Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 05:16:43PM +0100]:
> On 03/03/2014 19:13, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > If you have a key with not-so-many active DD signatures (with
> > not-so-many ≥ 2) waiting to get it more signed, stop waiting and
> > request the key replacement².
>
Xavier Roche dijo [Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 06:55:08PM +0100]:
> I have a rather silly question: would a mail (signed with this key)
> request to the DDs who already signed the initial key (and checked the
> identity) to sign the replacement key considered unreasonable ?
>
> And would it be considered
Ondřej Surý dijo [Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 08:10:47PM +0100]:
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014, at 19:13, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > As keyring maintainers, we no longer consider 1024D keys to be
> > trustable. We are not yet mass-removing them, because we don't want to
> > hamper
Xavier Roche dijo [Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 06:47:13PM +0100]:
> > I would tend to side more with Odyx here in that the keys are still
> > considered trustworthy enough to be in the keyring but we're encouraging
> > moving to stronger keys and no longer accepting these keys to be
> > included.
>
> Yes
John Holland dijo [Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 07:27:11PM -0400]:
> How about something completely different: Enlinghtenment?
>
> No, I'm not kidding
If we are offering users something different, we should go for
technical excellence. And I have never seen a group where tiling
window managers ar
Iain R. Learmonth dijo [Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 09:47:58AM +0100]:
> > So, I suggest we ship a desktop consisting of:
> >
> > (... minimalist and console-based stuff ...)
>
> Whilst that is basically my setup, it is definitely not an intuitive one
> to use.
>
> For power users, it likely is better
Kevin Chadwick dijo [Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 02:40:39PM +0100]:
> I think you are reflecting a subset of users priorities. I've switched
> users from desktop to desktop and they don't care a jot about
> flashiness in fact many like simple but pretty which is perfectly
> do-able with almost any window
William Ivanski dijo [Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 02:57:14PM -0300]:
> (...)
> My father doesn't have experience with computers, he only use it for Office
> and Internet. I suggested him to switch to Linux and he agreed. So I wiped
> out Windows from his computer and put Debian Wheezy with KDE. He started
Paul Wise dijo [Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 07:09:53AM +0800]:
> > Given all the recent issues with popular packages containing minified
> > JavaScript and other sourceless files, I'm hoping to get feedback from
> > people about how the solution can be generalized to help as many
> > developers as possibl
Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo dijo [Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:23:33PM +0100]:
> 2014-04-24 21:31 Jonas Smedegaard:
> >Quoting Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo (2014-04-24 21:48:47)
> >>a) the minified .js is still source code, by definition.
> >
> >Which definition?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So
Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo dijo [Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 01:27:02AM +0100]:
> To both things above, I don't think that this is different to my example of
> 'configure' script without corresponding .ac/.in; and I don't think that
> anybody
> is thinking about adding lintian errors for that or consi
Paul Wise dijo [Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800]:
> > a generalized approach is needed.
>
> Multiple versions of a package seems undesirable to me, for the same
> reasons as static libraries and embedded code copies are undesirable.
>
> Systems that do this already exist though:
>
> https:
Solal dijo [Mon, May 05, 2014 at 04:14:54PM +0200]:
> >> I think we shouldn't support proprietary software creaters
> >
> > Who's 'we'?
>
> "We" in the official list of Debian developers means... The Debian
> developers.
So... Who are you? We¹ would like to know.
¹ "We" in the context of a mail
Package: mate-desktop-environment
Version: 1.8.0+2~bpo70+1
Following up on the thread in the mailing list:
> >are there any reasons for the »strange« package description in
> >mate-desktop-environment (and more)
> >
> >The MATE Desktop Environment, a non-intuitive and unattractive desktop
> > for
Mike Gabriel dijo [Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 01:20:59PM +]:
> A fix for it has been uploaded just now.
>
> The new LONG_DESCRIPTIONs start with:
>
> """
> The MATE Desktop Environment is the continuation of GNOME 2. It provides an
> intuitive and attractive desktop environment using traditional
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Gunnar Wolf
* Package name: pcredz
Version : 20140606
Upstream Author : Laurent Gaffie
* URL : http://github.com/lgandx/PCredz
* License : GPLv3+
Programming Lang: Python
Description : Extract authentication
Ben Hutchings dijo [Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 04:54:46AM +0100]:
> > If you use "git describe", removing hashes is a bad idea.
> >
> > They are needed to identify the version. Version numbers that are not
> > unique are worthless.
>
> If versions are not ordered without the inclusion of a commit hash
Osamu Aoki dijo [Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:55:48PM +0900]:
> (...)
> 1.2.10~YYMMDD for prerelease of version 1.2.10
> 1.2.10~rcYMMDD for prerelease of version 1.2.10 (alternative format)
>this last 2 are mostly used in unstable/testing only. So length is
>less of problem.
Remember that w
Piotr Ożarowski dijo [Wed, May 04, 2011 at 03:22:07PM +0200]:
> [Josselin Mouette, 2011-05-04]
> > This would be a pseudo-suite, like experimental. Except that while
> > experimental is built on top of unstable and filled manually by
> > maintainers, rolling would be built on top of testing and fil
Stefano Zacchiroli dijo [Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:56:15PM +0200]:
> > I think it would make quite sense to get something like e.g. ppa done for
> > Debian. But thats something else than it's proposed here.
>
> Yes, absolutely. I'd even dare to say that having something like PPA for
> Debian is a pr
Paul Tagliamonte dijo [Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:16:54AM -0400]:
> > AFAIU, only DD and DM could create PPA and upload to them. If this is not
> > the case, then I share your fears.
>
> Usage of the PPA system on LP requires that you agree to the usage
> terms (not unlike machine usage policies for
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt dijo [Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:42:31AM +0200]:
> (...)
> If anyone would have actually read the PPA proposal, they would know
> that uploads were and are intended to be restricted to DDs and DMs
> (which can break buildds anyway, if they want) and building should
> happen in t
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