[PATCH] 2.2 kernel bug in utimes() and its results (m4 FTBFS, coreutils breakage, etc.)

2003-09-26 Thread viro
First of all, apologies for posting here. Use of BTS would lead to too many bug reassignments in that case ;-/ Summary: there is a bug in 2.2 kernels that leads to breakage of glibc 2.3.2 on 2.2 boxen, to breakage of coreutils and to FTBFS of m4 on alpha. Additionally, there's a

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-09-27 Thread viro
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 01:10:27PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > I do not believe that this patch has caused excessive grief for the > benefits that it brings. In fact, conflicts between the Debian kernel > source and random kernel patches floating around are a fact of life. > > For example, the grs

Re: A case study of a new user turned off debian

2003-11-03 Thread viro
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 02:22:00PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: > Oh, not this crap again. Or perhaps you're contending that what is > usefull for you is usefull for everybody. > > Hint: there's more to "useful" than old version of software in early > stages of development. Lot of desktop orien

Re: A case study of a new user turned off debian

2003-11-03 Thread viro
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 01:48:25PM +1100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-03 22:52]: > > but I wouldn't touch Herbert's kernels with a ten-feet pole. > > Can you elaborate why? a) I can do better b) I don't do huge monolitic patches c) I don't like

Re: Grsec/PaX and Exec-shield

2003-11-04 Thread viro
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 07:51:52PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mar 04/11/2003 à 16:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > > Also, I think both you and Ingo will be interested to see the results of > > a bugfixed version of paxtest. Are you so certain that Exec-shield > > stops execution in sh

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-07 Thread viro
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 04:22:27PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > Then how do you suggest maintaining a kernel 2.4.20 for one > architecture and a 2.4.22 for another architecture, when you can't even > test on either of them? And how do you expect to ever upgrade the > result without duplicat

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-07 Thread viro
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 10:59:51PM +0100, Frank Gevaerts wrote: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 10:48:06PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > > > Then how do you suggest maintaining a kernel 2.4.20 for one > > > architecture and a 2.4.22 for another architecture, when you can't even > > > test on either of th

Re: create new Debian-Kernel project (was: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel)

2003-11-10 Thread viro
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 05:11:45PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > initrd-on-cramfs fix , You mean the kludge that craps in fs/block_dev.c? If so, feel free to can it - the proper fix is to switch cramfs_read() to use of pagecache and it's going upstream.

Re: libc6 bug? or C programming error?

2003-12-02 Thread viro
> /* map the file and load an extra page in case the new line expands the > file across the page boundary; adding 2 allows for the truncating > effect of integer division. Forcing an extra page ensures > that we can identify the end of the buffer by finding a NUL */ No, it does n

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-18 Thread viro
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 05:03:55AM +, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Kevin Kreamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > In the case of a NetBSD libc, you could use > > > Debian NBSD/NBSD > > > basically having the first half signify which libc is used. > > Wouldn't that be a major retcon? AFAIU the

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-18 Thread viro
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 10:41:46AM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: > You are currently saying that the GNU in GNU/Linux is justified by the > glibc and not by any other GNU software, because these GNU software > are common on other unixes. > > Why? If you are right that others unixes uses widely GNU sof

Re: GNU within the name

2003-12-18 Thread viro
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:15:37PM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > Why not? > > You said what I expected from you: you revealed that you disbelieve > that the system should be called GNU/Linux. Good to know in this kind > of discussion. I'm not a True Believer, if that's what you mean. > Why not

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-18 Thread viro
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:56:15PM +0100, Julian Mehnle wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > If we ever get a replacement libc that would really work as > > replacement... on such system GNU claims would become much weaker. Not > > that there was a serious chance of that happening - drop-in repla

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-18 Thread viro
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 02:26:27PM +0200, Momchil Velikov wrote: > > "Mathieu" == Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Mathieu> If we follow your theory, it means that if someday another > Mathieu> system use the glibc, we should remove the GNU from the > Mathieu> GNU/Linux name. Arr

Re: removing /etc/hotplug.d/ support

2005-08-24 Thread Al Viro
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 01:09:14AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > When I asked the udev maintainer about this, he replied that he does not > believe that it will be an issue in the future. > We are not even at the step of requiring udev for everything, only for > less than ten packages which require