On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:40:30 +0200, Enrico Weigelt
wrote:
> I've collected several rules that upstreams should follow to make
> distro maintainer's life much easier:
>
> http://www.metux.de/index.php/de/component/content/article/57.html
>
> Free feel to comment on it :)
About autoconf stuff:
OoO Pendant le temps de midi du jeudi 16 septembre 2010, vers 12:28,
Enrico Weigelt disait :
>> About autoconf stuff:
>> - Why require autogen.sh? On a release, configure script should be
>> present. No need to rebuild it.
> No, there often *is* a need to rebuild it (actually, much of my
>
OoO En cette matinée ensoleillée du vendredi 17 septembre 2010, vers
09:08, Enrico Weigelt disait :
>> No, no, no. Users are not limited to Debian developers using Sid. Users
>> may try to compile on an old RHEL 2.
> In this case they should really *know* what they're doing.
> RHEL is mea
OoO Pendant le temps de midi du vendredi 17 septembre 2010, vers 12:16,
Ian Jackson disait :
>> We just don't live in the same world. Keep living in your narrow-minded
>> world where users are not allowed to compile themselves software and
>> where all systems are up-to-date. In my real w
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think Ockham's razor).
>>
>> No. Both of those groups also have other meanings.
>
>
> How about the "root" group?
This would hurt systems where umask is 002 (or 007) by default (the root
group is the primary group of the root user with nobody else in it
OoO La nuit ayant déjà recouvert d'encre ce jour du mercredi 27 octobre
2010, vers 23:48, Patrick Matthäi disait :
> Most desktop users also want to have some 2D/3D performance, or special
> features like tv out, xvideo acceleration etc etc.
> nouveau is a good replacement for nv, but still far
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se the 'ProxyCommand' feature of ssh to go through intermediate
hops, your ssh client will talk directly (but tunneled) to the target
server. So multiple hops are not really a problem in this case.
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ust be done by boost users
must be encoded into .pc name (and only them).
For [A], it will be the library/'part of boost' name
For [B]: none
For [C], it will be a suffix if this is really needed (but, here again,
support for MT is really a must nowadays for system libraries: are th
On 10/12/2010 16:59, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Vincent Danjean wrote:
>> [C] selection of the "tool chain"
>> Comment: this seems to be very boost specific!
>
> Not necessary at the moment.
>
>>For what I saw, the
advantage/disadvantage against other
classical tools (lib-config script and pkg-config files for example).
In particular, how this would work with multi-arch ?
I did not analyzed in details this proposition (auto-linking) but,
for now, I'm not at all confident that this would be a good move
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Jos
te /usr/share/texmf/doc
tex-common: /usr/share/texmf/doc
vdanj...@eyak:~$ dlocate /usr/share/doc/texmf
[lots of packages]
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> Regards, Frank
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OoO En cette fin de matinée radieuse du jeudi 03 février 2011, vers
11:15, Cyril Brulebois disait :
> $ apt-cache show wkhtmltopdf | sed -n '/^Description/,$p'
OoO En cette fin de matinée radieuse du jeudi 03 février 2011, vers
11:19, Luca Bruno disait :
> Have you seen cutycapt[0]
e a nice addition to the policy, wouldn’t it?
So long as it is not a MUST, else I have a feeling we'll find many
many packages RC...
That aside, I agree with this idea.
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rite in actual text rather than
>
> Please don't write rubbish if you don't know what you are talking about!!!
>
> You have apparently no idea between input and font encoding.
>
> LaTeX can easily useutf8 with the appropriate inputenc,
Which one???
FYI, utf8 is ver
r anything
> > > much in recent times.
> > Mostly it is just the old stuff like
> > - eterm, aterm
> > - elvis
> > - X tools from the basic package (xman, xmessage, xmore, ...)
> > - TeX without additional packages
> - tr(1)
"less" has pr
On 2011-02-11 15:02:02 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 02:30:24PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > On 2011-02-11 15:33:49 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:14:42AM +0100, Miroslav Kure wrote:
> > > > > Howeve
goes back to making lib64 obsolete ;)
Yes! :)
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On 2011-02-14 16:43:11 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> When LC_CTYPE=en_GB.utf-8, programs which attempt to print unicode
> characters to stdout should use UTF-8. That's what LC_TYPE means.
So, "cat", "grep", etc. are all broken. :)
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-C option.
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will "work" under both UTF-8 and ISO-8859-1. Or you can force UTF-8 with:
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On 2011-02-16 01:34:51 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 01:01:07AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > On 2011-02-14 16:43:11 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > When LC_CTYPE=en_GB.utf-8, programs which attempt to print unicode
> > > characters to stdou
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not, why don't you use the
collab-maint projet on alioth ?
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> Kind regards,
> Ryan
>
> [0] https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-urxvt/
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OoO En ce début d'après-midi ensoleillé du dimanche 27 février 2011,
vers 15:33, Josselin Mouette disait :
> You seem to forget the very reason bug reports are here. Their point is
> not to offer a service to our users - if you want that, you’ll need paid
> support. Bug reports are here to he
ot; ...
But I install them with :
make install DESTDIR=$HOME/.system/stow/
mv $HOME/.system/stow//$HOME/.system/* $HOME/.system/stow/
rmdir --parents $HOME/.system/stow//$HOME/.system
cd $HOME/.system/stow/
stow
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stalling foo for the default
interpreter...
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> However, that creates many small dependency cycles. I am under the
> impression that dependency cycles are considered bad, but that we have
> many of them already, and that no important part of our infrastructure
> or
rator...
If a admin wants non-free (or another repo) only for one software
(java, ...), he can use pinning to express this concern to the package
manager.
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OoO En cette fin de matinée radieuse du dimanche 06 mars 2011, vers
11:40, Lucas Nussbaum disait :
> Note that, for applications written in Ruby and packaged in Debian, we
> will make sure that they work no matter what /usr/bin/ruby points to (if
> necessary, by forcing the shebang to ruby1.
Subversion. Now, git can also be used
but, according to the webpage [1], it is not as well integrated as
subversion repos in team-wide tools.
[1] http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/git.html
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> Specifically, I'm looking for a way to easy track all of the team'
iles are
patched in the right order.
So Makefile rules can then re-run auto* tools at build time and you
lost the benefit you want to have.
Workaround exists but are not very easy to setup.
Regards,
Vincent
> Ian.
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when uncompressed, they are still the same.
The md5sums of the files I checked were:
c02ab6bb859cc538af3feb2fbff04c03 1.deb
aee84117c46174aa08e61f5c6b1a0f92 2.deb
Ciao. Vincent.
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Description: PGP signature
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> by
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I submitted a patch for the bug #221988. Does anyone know when it
will be considered? If this bug could be fixed in the Sarge release
(I don't know if this is possible), this would really be fine.
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Hello,
See subject: is this package missing from our archive or did I simply
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server, but in a `ps
|| -ef' listing, I see an additional "-auth" option. How does this get to
|| be a part of the command?
Not sure about kdm. Can't remember if xdm does this too, but I don't
think so.
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OoO Pendant le journal télévisé du lundi 02 février 2009, vers 20:25,
Lionel Elie Mamane disait :
> Context: bug#513898
> There seem to be a few packages that install non-english documentation
> in /usr/share/doc/LANG/${ll}/${pkgname}
> where ${ll} is the two-letter language code and ${pkgna
OoO En cette soirée bien amorcée du dimanche 15 février 2009, vers
22:16, Gonéri Le Bouder disait :
> I uploaded libode 0.11 in experimental. Can you please, test it with
> your package and adjust your build dependency in order to able to build
> it with libode-dev or libode0-dev.
> Please,
OoO En cette soirée bien amorcée du dimanche 15 février 2009, vers
22:49, je disais:
>> I uploaded libode 0.11 in experimental. Can you please, test it with
>> your package and adjust your build dependency in order to able to build
>> it with libode-dev or libode0-dev.
After a second read,
l
be in good shape with respect to yum/rpm. And backports is here for lenny
users if they really needed it.
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OoO Lors de la soirée naissante du mardi 17 février 2009, vers 17:09,
Holger Levsen disait :
>> This is not a technical problem. The technical divergences can be solved
>> if consensus is reached about them or if a decision body (TC or GR)
>> forces them. This is purely a person problem: Matth
ut messing with provides/conflicts/diversions/... of ucf
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OoO Pendant le temps de midi du mercredi 25 février 2009, vers 12:45,
martin f krafft disait :
> In eleven years of DebConf history, this will be the first time
> that the Debian developer conference takes place in the United
> States of America, which had been avoided in previous years due to
meric is in the
'math' section and not in the 'gnome' section).
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#x27;auto' flag should solve this
problem but it often happens for me to switch from auto to noauto when
trying to upgrade a package with 'apt-get install package' and no new
version of 'package' is available (in this case, the effect of
'apt-get install package
ngrading version in library dependencies must
only be done for private packages, not packages uploaded to debian.
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can be solved! Would
> be great! :)
IMHO, the best thing to do in these cases is to prepare lenny backports of
the packages...
It is not as good as if the packages were in lenny, but it allows lenny users
to easily install the packages without switching to testing or waiting for
the next release
ackage for other architectures
=> the BTS, PTS, qa website, ... "know" (at least a minimum) the backports
of the packages
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> Kind regards,
>
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many *recent* games that work with it. Telling them: «well, you'll
have to build a ia32 chroot to play...» is likely to drive them off for
good.
Just for the record, I personally have ia32 chroots for various
reasons, but I run wine directly from my amd64 system, because it is way
mor
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OoO En cette nuit striée d'éclairs du samedi 04 avril 2009, vers 02:14,
Russ Allbery disait :
>> There are still daemons though (like proftpd comes to mind), which ship a
>> subdirectory in /var/run and support inetd.
> What does it use the directory for?
I don't know for proftpd, but a daem
OoO Vers la fin de l'après-midi du dimanche 05 avril 2009, vers 16:23,
Joerg Jaspert disait :
> we just added two new architectures to the Debian archive. Everybody
> please welcome
> kfreebsd-i386 AKA GNU/kFreeBSD i386
> kfreebsd-amd64 AKA GNU/kFreeBSD amd64
> Note that this enables por
OoO Lors de la soirée naissante du dimanche 05 avril 2009, vers 17:53,
Paul Wise disait :
>> How packages that run on Linux only should handle those new architectures?
> Same as for stuff that only runs on i386; port them to kFreeBSD or
> restrict them to linux architectures and add them to P-
OoO En ce début de soirée du dimanche 05 avril 2009, vers 21:56, Russ
Allbery disait :
>> I don't know for proftpd, but a daemon can use an empty directory in
>> /var/run to chroot into it.
> Seems like a good use for /var/lib to me. There's no reason that I can
> see to put such a di
without a kernel?
The answer could still fall either way.
Personally, as one point of measurement, I prefer lilo because it's
lightweight.
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it means that markdown specifications can not be used "as it".
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¹: at least, I did not notice one in this discussion
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Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:37:00AM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote:
>> As shown before in the other thread, markdown does not work with
>> the current long description : it needs pre-processing to add some
>> blank lines before each list.
>
&g
OoO En cette fin de nuit blanche du mardi 28 avril 2009, vers 05:27,
Brian May disait :
>> I tried hard, for many years, to love the Mail-Followup-To field, but I
>> must agree that it doesn't serve the purpose well enough to recommend.
>> (Briefly: it breaks when a discussion crosses between
l compatibility
whereas postfix is OK, IIRC.
I think that for my next Debian machine, I'll choose postfix.
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OoO En ce début d'après-midi ensoleillé du dimanche 07 juin 2009, vers
15:59, Gilles Filippini disait :
> It appears that lilypond is actively maintained in ubuntu[1].
> I'd like to take over this package in Debian but I don't know about the
> practices when a package is already maintained in U
must absolutely
trust it. If something bad happens at this level, this would
mean that downloaded packages from debian.org may actually
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whatever reason. At least you
need some 3rd party to check certificate revocation. But if it is
malicious, it could tell you that the certificate has been revoked
(even if it isn't), and you have the same problem as now... well,
almost. At least you can know that something has happen
/copyright contains:
It was put together by the GNU Libc Maintainers
from
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❦ 21 juin 2014 18:46 +0200, Sylvestre Ledru :
> Currently, LLVM default binaries are managed by the llvm-defaults package
> (similar to gcc-defaults).
> To sum up, we have binaries like /usr/bin/llvm-nm-X.Y. llvm-defaults
> provides symlinks /usr/bin/llvm-nm to the actual binaries.
> Usually, I
ate-alternatives and the choice affects
all users of a system. If you are in a multiuser environment (or
want to support such one), update-alternatives is not a solution.
I would be very pleased if update-alternatives can work for users,
at least for most packages. But it is another discussion.
A+
Vinc
❦ 28 juin 2014 10:56 +0200, Svante Signell :
> systemd-must-die_8_all.deb already conflicts with nine packages:
> Conflicts: libpam-systemd, live-config-systemd, python-systemd, systemd,
> systemd-cron, systemd-gui, systemd-shim, systemd-sysv, systemd-ui
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❦ 28 juin 2014 12:19 +0200, Josselin Mouette :
>> Why systemd-shim?
>
> Do you really need to ask why?
>
> There’s systemd in the name, therefore it must be *evil*, man. It has to
> be part of a conspiracy to take over the world and remove our freedom to
> make all executables setuid root!
I wa
❦ 27 juin 2014 11:37 -0430, Luis Alejandro Martínez Faneyth
:
> I've been poking around with docker a little bit. I've done some
> "truncated" (50MB image without docs, locales or caches) images of
> Wheezy to experiment on some of my projects. Feel free to use them.
>
> amd64 image:
> https://
❦ 28 juin 2014 20:39 +0200, Vincent Bernat :
>> source script:
>> https://github.com/LuisAlejandro/tribus/blob/development/tribus/data/scripts/debian-base-image.sh
>
> You seem to handle things better than the scripts provided in
> Docker. Maybe you should contribute your m
❦ 1 juillet 2014 15:25 +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek
:
> A few days ago, after a routine upgrade from testing, the power button on
> my laptop ceased functioning. I was busy at the time, so I lived with
> having to remember to type "sudo shutdown -h now" for a few days; yesterday,
> I finally too
❦ 1 juillet 2014 10:53 -0700, Steve Langasek :
> - hold systemd back at 204 until systemd-shim is updated
The way user sessions work is quite different between 204 and 208. I
would hope that Jessie will come with 208 for this reason. Holding
systemd until systemd-shim is ready may prevent tha
's go ahead and upload packages with
provocative names. That's sure to foster goodwill between the pro- and
anti-systemd camps within Debian, right?
Sorry to be a spoilsport here, but I'll take "boring" any day of the
week if the potential alternative is another heated
❦ 1 juillet 2014 21:17 +0200, Michael Biebl :
> As of this writing 204, is already over 1 year old and will be grossly
> outdated once jessie releases. It also misses a lot of important
> functionality.
> That missing functionality is holding back other maintainers, like the
> GNOME maintainers
❦ 6 juillet 2014 10:56 +0200, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino :
> Since 'amap' (the scanner) probably needs permission to make raw
> sockets to work properly (just like nmap) for some scans, why not
> install it in /usr/sbin/? That way there would be no conflict with the
> other package.
This has al
nd gathering
consensus to change 10.1 (e.g. perhaps by weakening it to a "should"
instead of a "must", or by proposing a carefully-worded exception to
existing policy).
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❦ 13 juillet 2014 11:52 +0800, Thomas Goirand :
>> As libressl is currently under heavy development, it is imho not to
>> be expected to have that stable ABI you are asking for.
>
> Well, I don't agree with this view. If LibreSSL pretends to be a
> replacement for OpenSSL, then they should care
❦ 12 juillet 2014 23:08 +0100, Steve McIntyre :
> And I've got to ask: for the couple of trivial examples that Frederick
> pointed out - why on earth do these even exist as libraries instead of
> being inlined wherever they're needed?
Because, in node, a library is cheap and the functionality g
❦ 13 juillet 2014 11:34 +0200, Jeroen Dekkers :
>> > And I've got to ask: for the couple of trivial examples that Frederick
>> > pointed out - why on earth do these even exist as libraries instead of
>> > being inlined wherever they're needed?
>>
>> Because, in node, a library is cheap and the
❦ 13 juillet 2014 08:50 +0100, Neil Williams :
>> > And I've got to ask: for the couple of trivial examples that
>> > Frederick pointed out - why on earth do these even exist as
>> > libraries instead of being inlined wherever they're needed?
>>
>> Because, in node, a library is cheap and the f
❦ 16 juillet 2014 09:58 +0900, Charles Plessy :
> Patch systems have a high importance in Debian because we accumulate patches
> that have little relevance for Upstream and the software's users. One of the
> solution is to standardise the patch systems, but another solution is to stop
> produci
articular enabled modules, during the upgrade
> because apache2.2-common disappears in that step. [...]
Is there any reason why apt-get/aptitude removes the config files
just after the package is removed, and not at the end of the upgrade
process? IMHO, doing the later is safer and would solv
ages that
have manually been removed and those that have automatically been
removed during a dist-upgrade.
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On 2014-07-16 13:46:12 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 11:41:25 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > On 2014-07-13 13:17:24 +0200, Arno Töll wrote:
> > > Unfortunately it turns out, that /a lot/ of people use "aptitude
> > > --purge-unused safe-upgr
On 2014-07-16 14:28:00 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:36:32AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > I do that too. I haven't seen any official documentation saying that
> > this is a bad thing to do.
>
> aptitude actively warns against it as
will need config changes anyway, and any sane
> person already uses version control for /etc + config management for
> such setups.
Actually the problem is not the data loss. The problem is the upgrade
failure.
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as for today, and perhaps for the release unless I use either
> alternative highlighted initially.
Yes, and a consequence of this loss is that dpkg fails.
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On 2014-07-18 00:32:25 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 17 iul 14, 03:17:35, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > On 2014-07-16 14:28:00 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:36:32AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > > I do that to
On 2014-07-22 22:10:07 +0200, Arno Töll wrote:
> On 21.07.2014 20:58, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > Yes, and a consequence of this loss is that dpkg fails.
>
> dpkg does not at all fail. If anything dpkg errors out because Apache's
> maintainer script failed, because "
On 2014-07-23 01:19:01 +0200, Christian Hofstaedtler wrote:
> * Arno Töll [140722 22:10]:
> > On 21.07.2014 20:58, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > Yes, and a consequence of this loss is that dpkg fails.
> >
> > dpkg does not at all fail. If anything dpkg errors out b
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