e and several for ubuntu) managed with sbuild that
I use when I want to really build the package I will upload. Due to disk
space, I cannot instal them (chroots) on my laptop.
I other people work like me, these tools can be moved to Recommends
instead of Depends.
Regards,
Vincent
>
On 05/06/2011 07:39, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:54:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>
>> What I do is use upstream provided tarballs, then put aside
>> autotools-generated files, then autogenerate myself, and in the clean
>> rule put back the upstream-p
On 07/06/2011 14:36, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 12:54:23PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote:
>> On 05/06/2011 07:39, Vincent Bernat wrote:
>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:54:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>>
>>>> What I do is use upstream provided
y packaging-dev, not depends).
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Should I organize a mini transition of my own (there is only a handful
reverse dependencies and all of them could just get a binary rebuild)?
Or is it better to keep this prefix until a new major version (unlikely
to happen)?
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of libraries?
[*] containing different architectures, not just sub-architectures.
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On 2011-06-27 15:42:47 +0100, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 03:31:24PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > How libraries are searched is not clear, but depending on how this
> > is done, there may be compatibility issues when the user installs
> > software in h
install several "thin" libraries.
Perhaps multiarch partly makes fat libraries more or less obsolete
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On 2011-06-28 09:54:34 +0100, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 02:05:05AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > > http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2010-11/msg00341.html
>
> > > This particular issue will not occur with multiarch, because
> > >
some lib subdirectory. If OS libraries are present in the lib
subdirectory and no multilibs are used, this is usually just ., if
OS libraries are present in lib sibling directories this
prints e.g. ../lib64, ../lib or ../lib32, or if OS libraries are
present in lib/ subdirectories
arefully
studied. And only package meta-data will not be enough when the
sysadmin preferences must be taken into account.
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> But for now, the resume is that we put it into the sysadmin’s hand to
> install nss packages for all architectures he thinks his users want to
> run
Games team, assuming nobody
else is interested.
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Recommends instead of Depends.
What happens when a new Recommends is added to a meta-package. Is it installed
by default by APT ?
Can we add version information (>= X.Y) to Recommends? I'm not sure it is
useful for the APT point of view.
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> strict.
Waiting more times will not decrease the number of releases to wait
before dropping the relevant parts of the code. So, in my point of view,
the sooner, the better.
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rchitecture (i386) where
${triplet} != ${multiarchdir} ?
Should pkg-config be invoked as ${multiarchdir}-pkg-config or should
pkg-config wrapper translate triplet into multiarchdir (is there a tool
for that ?)
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package) should be roughly equivalent to (max for each source package of
the required size) + (the size of all binary packages)
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ready raise (without answer) the question when is not
(if I recall correctly, this is the case for the i386
Debian architecture).
So, how pkg-config (and other tools) does the ->
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> ]] Vincent Danjean
>
> | I already raise (without answer) the question when is not
> | (if I recall correctly, this is the case for the i386
> | Debian architecture).
>
> $triplet really means $multiarchdir in my text.
cted packages and a patch for lintian to add a
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On 21/09/2011 09:13, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Vincent Danjean wrote:
>> dpkg-architecture can convert Debian arch to triplet (DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE)
>> and multiarchdir (DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH)
>>
>> Is there an easy way to convert triplet to multiarc
❦ 21 novembre 2014 17:34 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh :
>> I thought there was a flag bit you could set on x86 that causes
>> unaligned access to trap there too.
>
> 1. CR0.AM must be set.
>
> 2. Ask For The Pain!
>
> i386:
> __asm__("pushf\norl $0x4,(%esp)\npopf");
>
> x86-64:
>
t systemd
not being able to correctly create generators (or something like
that) and, at runtime, my photos are not mounted under
/media/photos or not with the options I specify (I need to check
that exactly)
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❦ 25 novembre 2014 10:54 +0100, Marc Haber :
>>> [12]
>>> http://ftp.nluug.nl/video/nluug/2014-11-20_nj14/zaal-2/5_Lennart_Poettering_-_Systemd.webm
>>> [13] http://0pointer.net/public/systemd-nluug-2014.pdf
>>>
>>
>>This seems pretty interesting.
>
> Indeed. Do we really have to pull that fr
❦ 27 novembre 2014 22:02 +0100, Martin Steigerwald :
> And well, I also wonder why systemd --user functionality is in the *same*
> binary than the PID 1 stuff… but well…
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❦ 28 novembre 2014 22:21 +0100, Marc Haber :
>>So what? You can also use systemd without using the tools for NTP,
>>network configuration, or the journal.
>
> Is that as "easy" as running current GNOME without systemd, which is
> surely possible?
systemd-timesyncd and systemd-networkd are disab
❦ 29 novembre 2014 12:41 GMT, Alastair McKinstry
:
> One concern I'd have is the lack of flexibility to produce a cut-down
> system. The option of "a dedicated init=/custom-program", but lack of
> an ntpd, for example, because ntp has been absorbed into systemd's
> orbit and other ntpd's bitro
❦ 30 novembre 2014 10:10 GMT, Ivan Shmakov :
> > Directly: DEs provide more useful features (especially power
> > management) with systemd but will work correctly without.
>
> I see nothing in the ‘apcupsd’ changelog [1] (which is about the
> only package related to power managemen
❦ 30 novembre 2014 12:50 GMT, Ivan Shmakov :
> > PolicyKit rely on logind to know if a user is locally connected. A
> > non-local user won't be allowed things like network management, local
> > device mounting or sound card access.
>
> That looks like a problem to solve, not a feature.
❦ 30 novembre 2014 14:53 +0100, Josselin Mouette :
>> That looks like a problem to solve, not a feature.
>>
>> For home installs, I see no reason for the owner of the device
>> to be /denied/ access to the sound card just because of using
>> SSH. Why, it’s exactly what I do
❦ 3 décembre 2014 13:55 +0100, Adam Borowski :
>> In both cases (systemd-sysv or systemd-shim), ACLs should be correctly
>> set for the current user.
>>
>> This “adduser first-user audio” was already useless in squeeze and it
>> hasn’t changed.
>
> Only if you run logind or consolekit. Witho
❦ 3 décembre 2014 15:46 +0100, Svante Signell :
>> The problem with those groups is that they are not fine grained
>> enough. For example, the video group gives access to the framebuffer
>> device (the user can do a screenshot) or to a webcam (the user can spy
>> another user). By encouraging t
❦ 3 décembre 2014 16:47 GMT, Ivan Shmakov :
> > The problem with those groups is that they are not fine grained
> > enough. For example, the video group gives access to the framebuffer
> > device (the user can do a screenshot) or to a webcam (the user can
> > spy another user). By encoura
❦ 3 décembre 2014 19:54 +0100, Stephan Seitz
:
>>Feature 2: if the first user created via the installer logs in via a
>>non-local mechanism (typically ssh) [3], they can still play and record
>>audio. If you expect that the first user created via the installer is
>
> Yes, and playing audio via
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❦ 11 décembre 2014 13:12 +0200, Eugene Zhukov :
> I plan to package a perl script to run as daemon. It will update
> dynamic DNS provider with IP changes etc., but for that it needs user
> credentials registered at provider's web site beforehand.
> Is it a good solution to ask for credentials at
❦ 6 janvier 2015 11:26 +0100, Hans :
> Sorry, that was what I was told. However, the developer(s) are offering an
> actual debian package, which can be installed without any problem.
>
> What is so hard. to add it into the debian repo again?
Because it needs a maintainer that will fix problem
it the output of the "Description:" field?
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On 2015-01-09 16:02:52 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Vincent, perhaps you would care to file a bug with a patch which
> reduces the description to a plausible size ?
I reported
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=774942
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o sort of achieve what you
> want to.
Obviously not. It may be possible with something like sed or perl,
but this may not be future-proof, and breakage due to changes in
the dpkg output may remain unnoticed. And doing that automatically
would need to write a dpkg wrapper, which could break dpkg i
ch via apt-cache,
the extended description of every Debian package could include each
executable they provide with an associated short description. But
this would be insane.
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On 2015-01-10 10:50:58 +1100, Riley Baird wrote:
> True. I honestly think that this is such an insignificant problem that
> updating the sed or perl script every so often wouldn't be that much of
> a problem.
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which doesn't work at all, neither with zsh nor with bash.
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On 2015-01-09 14:56:14 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jan 2015, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > The blank lines are not the only problem. Removing them would be a big
> > step forward, but the description would actually still be much too
> > long (more than 900 line
this would be great. I also suppose that this would
help rendering with screen readers and Braille displays (I'm not
concerned, so I'm not sure, but this is important, IMHO).
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On 2015-01-13 01:42:57 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 01:24:20PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > On 2015-01-10 13:34:37 +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> > > Nonsense, the format is trivial and stable.
> >
> > I've never seen that it
On 2015-01-13 10:22:47 +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > which doesn't work at all, neither with zsh nor with bash.
>
> It works with mksh, GNU bash, AT&T ksh93, zsh (Debian sid).
> I don’t see why it shouldn’t work on
On 2015-01-15 14:00:21 +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
>
> > > > which doesn't work at all, neither with zsh nor with bash.
> > >
> > > It works with mksh, GNU bash, AT&T ksh93, zsh (Debian sid).
>
On 2015-01-20 11:59:45 +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2015, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
>
> > I don't even see how it can work. Perhaps you need to explain.
>
> *sigh*…
>
> • Take output of 「apt-cache show texlive-latex-extra」
> • Replace all newlines
he bug is
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it is now" if we remove the
> authentication we have.
>
> The reason is all that happens now is you get one unwanted email and
> that is the end of it.
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❦ 12 février 2015 10:06 -0800, Nikolaus Rath :
> if you copy that into /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/mylayout, you can
> enable it with "setxkbmap -layout mylayout".
>
> I still haven't found a way to avoid copying this to /usr :-(.
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❦ 17 février 2015 10:18 GMT, Alastair McKinstry :
>>> The breakage of compatibility of existing systems (e.g. with /usr on a
>>> separate partition) has left a sour taste. I spent a weekend repairing
>> systemd introduces no such breakage. Also, /usr on a separate partition
>> was partially br
❦ 17 février 2015 12:57 GMT, Alastair McKinstry :
> The breakage of compatibility of existing systems (e.g. with /usr on a
> separate partition) has left a sour taste. I spent a weekend repairing
systemd introduces no such breakage. Also, /usr on a separate partition
was part
❦ 14 mars 2015 11:11 +0100, Dominik George :
> I found out today that roundcube was removed from Debian testing due to
> some unfixed bugs. I investigated a bit further and found that:
>
> - 1.1.0 has long been released upstream, but:
> - the watch file never picked it up, and
> - the p
❦ 15 mars 2015 15:38 -0500, John Goerzen :
>>> I found out today that roundcube was removed from Debian testing due to
>>> some unfixed bugs. I investigated a bit further and found that:
>>>
>>> - 1.1.0 has long been released upstream, but:
>>> - the watch file never picked it up, and
>>>
d a overview
of oauth2 that seems (at least to me) very interesting and clear,
but it is in French. If some can/want to read it:
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❦ 13 avril 2015 17:37 +1000, Ben Finney :
>> As I have seen instances where the JavaScript was built by web
>> services, I'd say the real world is much too complicated to even agree
>> on that.
>
> Is the implication of “built by web services” that the source isn't
> available for redistribution
❦ 13 avril 2015 10:37 +0100, Philip Hands :
> I presume that we can agree that, if someone started offering a web
> service compiling C code with output an order of magnitude better in
> every dimension than gcc can achieve, we still wouldn't use it for our
> binaries (at least not unless it wer
❦ 14 avril 2015 11:00 +1000, Ben Finney :
>> > I presume that we can agree that, if someone started offering a web
>> > service compiling C code with output an order of magnitude better in
>> > every dimension than gcc can achieve, we still wouldn't use it for
>> > our binaries (at least not unl
❦ 14 avril 2015 18:22 +1000, Riley Baird
:
> It makes sense that for small changes, the preferred form for
> modification would be the generated bootstrap.css. A potential problem
> with this would be that you can generate bootstrap.css from the LESS
> files, but (I assume) you can't generate t
❦ 14 avril 2015 10:39 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard :
> I presume that we can agree that, if someone started offering a web
> service compiling C code with output an order of magnitude better
> in every dimension than gcc can achieve, we still wouldn't use it
> for our binaries (at
❦ 15 avril 2015 10:05 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard :
>> When the license says that the derivative should be redistributed with
>> the source in the prefered form of modification, every derivative use
>> the same prefered form of modification. When the license says nothing
>> about that, there the
❦ 15 avril 2015 10:10 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard :
>> What I have done so far in my package is to include the concatenated
>> but unminified js from the upstream (that would be my upstream's
>> upstream) source tarball in debian/missing-sources. During package
>> build i use uglifyjs (which is a
❦ 15 avril 2015 11:07 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard :
What I have done so far in my package is to include the concatenated
but unminified js from the upstream (that would be my upstream's
upstream) source tarball in debian/missing-sources. During package
build i use uglifyjs (wh
❦ 15 avril 2015 13:47 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard :
>> What I have done so far in my package is to include the
>> concatenated but unminified js from the upstream (that would be my
>> upstream's upstream) source tarball in debian/missing-sources.
>> During package build i use ugli
❦ 15 avril 2015 16:55 +0100, Ian Jackson :
>>Usually, this is something like this:
>> http://modernizr.com/download/#-fontface-backgroundsize-borderimage-borderradius-boxshadow-flexbox-hsla-multiplebgs-opacity-rgba-textshadow-cssanimations-csscolumns-generatedcontent-cssgradients-cssreflections
❦ 17 avril 2015 00:32 +0100, Ian Jackson :
>> Guess I'll have to start over again and figure out how to manually
>> concatenate the separate upstream files into one huge file. I can see
>> how it makes sense, but it also seems like a lot of work for very
>> little gain…
>
> So you propose to man
❦ 16 avril 2015 21:09 +0200, Andreas Noteng :
>> While I still maintain my previous position that concatenated js
>> is DFSG-free, even if it is not what upstream requires, I'm just
>> wondering - what is your .orig.tar.gz? You might not need to repack
>> it if you can concatenate the files with
❦ 19 avril 2015 07:34 GMT, Brian May :
> Unfortunately, github pull requests have limitations compared with
> patches, archived for example on a mailing list. For blog post on this
> see:
>
> https://julien.danjou.info/blog/2013/rant-about-github-pull-request-workflow-implementation
>
> IIRC, my
❦ 19 avril 2015 08:55 GMT, Brian May :
> I suspect not many people know about this however (did I miss an
> announcement from github on this?), and I suspect it may not be
> possible to make changes to the pull request without write access to
> the branch.
Yes, that's not possible.
> Unlike wi
❦ 19 avril 2015 19:00 +1000, Ben Finney :
>> The pull request exists on github, fine.
>
> How can a collaborator Alice, with no GitHub account, get the pull
> request?
Take a random PR:
https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/pull/16258
Append ".patch" to get the patch:
curl https://github.com/twb
❦ 20 avril 2015 00:18 +1000, Ben Finney :
> Likewise, as an external party Alice can collaborate via ‘git
> send-email’ or ‘git request-pull’ on an equal footing with any other
> repo (including GitHub repos). But Bob, having chosen GitHub's
> proprietary pull requests as an essential part of hi
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Couldn't perl-base be a metapackage depending on
"perl-base-dynamic | perl-base-static"?
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❦ 30 avril 2015 18:16 +0200, Markus Frosch :
> I was wondering if there is any special reason to upload linux-4.0 to
> experimental, but not uploading linux-kbuild-4.0?
>
> Would love to test the kernel without building it myself.
That's a frequent question. Some kernels got the kbuild stuff (
defined method, to the user.
>
> That requires something to deliver mail. However I really don't think we
> want a MTA to be at "important" priority.
>
> > So either we fix the policy or cron needs to stay in 'important'.
>
> "at", "
.
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27;ve just filed such a bug,
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❦ 8 mai 2015 23:03 +0200, Marc Haber :
>>There are much better alternatives for most common cases.
>
> For example being?
firewalld works nicely nowadays. You assign different level of security
to different networks. When I dock my laptop, network manager configures
the network interface and f
❦ 10 mai 2015 08:20 -0400, The Wanderer :
>>> Were you actually using ifupdown to manage the varied set of
>>> wireless networks? Because if not, then the name shouldn't
>>> matter.
>>
>> Yes, I’m using ifupdown. Besides USB NICs don’t have to be WiFi.
>
> Lots of people are, and it's inapprop
❦ 10 mai 2015 10:45 -0400, The Wanderer :
>> Do you speak about ifupdown? It's Debian only. eth* interfaces is
>> not *nix at all since all BSD are using per-driver naming
>> convention.
>
> Upon consideration, I suspect that I've been making - at least - the
> following three assumptions:
>
> *
Le 10/05/2015 16:24, Vincent Bernat a écrit :
> Actually, when rebooting your (mission-critical) server, you can have a
> race condition where "eth1" is not the interface that was "eth1" on the
> previous boot and "rename5" is the interface that should be
y default. :-(
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On 2015-05-12 22:31:43 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Tue, 12 May 2015 17:08:33 +0200, Vincent Lefevre
> wrote:
> >On 2015-05-11 18:04:14 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> >> In IPv6, routers advertise prefixes. If a new prefix comes, end
> >> systems configured for SLAAC
❦ 14 mai 2015 14:02 +0100, Neil Williams :
>> 1. Gitlab;
>> 2. Isolated build environment inside Docker containers (where we
>> usually do `git clone && mk-build-deps && debuild`);
>> 3. Aptly;
>> 4. Self-written Python scripts linking all these components;
>
> What is the reason for doc
❦ 14 mai 2015 14:57 +0100, Neil Williams :
>> More seriously, but this needs some additional work, it should be
>> easier to manage persistent build dependencies. The first time you
>> build a package, it retrieves and install all deps. The second time,
>> the build environment is already here.
❦ 14 mai 2015 17:22 +0300, Исаев Виталий :
> Regarding the state of containers after the finish of the build
> process: we surely don't need them anymore. Every container is used
> just once and removed after a while. We have docker image with
> preinstalled compilers and packaging toolchain. Al
❦ 4 avril 2015 10:54 +0200, Niels Thykier :
> * There is an experimental branch for debhelper to generate these
>automatically available.
>- Requires a "export DH_BUILD_DDEBS=1" to trigger the code path
>- It applies to *all* compat levels.
>- Trying to get the reproducible tea
❦ 15 mai 2015 08:19 +0100, Neil Williams :
>> For some packages, installing the dependencies can take more time than
>> building the package.
>
> An inevitable cost of building software that has a significant stack of
> dependencies. However, each of those dependencies needs to be cleaned
> up
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