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having CD ISO images is
important, but price isn't one. And that's not the first time I explain
it. So please don't write about how expensive USB keys are again, this
kinds of repetitions aren't helping to move forward.
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th or without previous contacts with ffmpeg/libav.
[2] Think of it like "spending some hours to fix the issue" vs "spending
some hours to read more mails on debian-devel".
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I thought it was best to inform my fellow Debian contributors about what
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blob/master/xstatic/pkg/angular/__init__.py
In Debian, I just patch VERSION =, and BASE_DIR=. That's in fact what
upstream for XStatic expects me to do! Then on the resulting package, I
just delete the xstatic/pkg/angular/data folder and its content which
contains the embedded Angular javascri
el Niedermayer wrote:
> Also ive offered my resignation in the past.
> I do still offer to resign from the FFmpeg leader position, if it
> resolves this split between FFmpeg and Libav and make everyone work
> together again.
Why not just take the offer, and move on?
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ake more sense to ask the various Javascript
> projects' upstreams to ship them?
It will still produce another binary package, so it doesn't solve the
problem of avoiding that.
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On 08/14/2014 11:59 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 08/14/2014 11:27 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>
>> On 08/13/2014 07:53 AM, Kieran Kunhya wrote:
>
>> On 08/13/2014 06:30 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>
>>> Also ive offered my resignation in the past. I do still of
On 08/15/2014 12:28 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Thomas Goirand (2014-08-14 09:26:05)
>> Note that the XStatic python modules aren't just meta packages, they
>> also offer a mechanism for a Python script to discover where to find a
>> given static file in the s
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ontributors interact with
each other. Almost certainly in a *good* way.
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> "~" -> "_"
I do use "~" -> "_" myself. Very useful.
> - are there other important things to standardize?
Yes. Producing orig.tar.xz out of upstream tag should be industrialized,
and written in "some&q
s done the work yet to make the Python 3 package.
... or because one of the (build-)dependencies of that package doesn't
support Python 3.
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If you have a complex set of dependencies though, it's probably a good
idea to drop a few lines to the FTP masters, just to let them know.
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Hi Jeremy,
I don't agree with you on this one. Let me explain why.
On 08/16/2014 07:05 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> On 2014-08-16 01:15:45 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote:
> [...]
>> Yes. Producing orig.tar.xz out of upstream tag should be industrialized,
>> and written
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ow discussion if it happens in such a variety of places,
> and there's value to be found in making sure that everything passes
> through one central (discussion-enabled) point before landing.
Lists are good tools for discussing where a project should go, release
goals, and so on. They a
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reason to mandate it could be that we'd have an automated
build system which would clone the Git repository, and automatically
build using that. This is already what I'm doing with Jenkins, though
it's just using HEAD. Having a tagged signature (which would have to be
in the Debian m
e the need for backports/, I would rather
>use debian/wheezy-backports (which actually is just a specific case
>of / since wheezy-backports is the Codename in the
>Release file)
>and security/ is just the continuation of /
>after a stable release, so again I don
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27;t
> assume this. It's possibly a subset of the conventions for non-native
> packages + some common conventions in all software projects.
>
> Something like:
> - branches
> - master: main development branch
Please don't use "master". It's meaningless.
On 08/17/2014 12:20 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Thomas Goirand writes:
>> On 08/16/2014 07:05 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
>
>>> However upstream may build tarballs through a (hopefully
>>> repeatable/automated) process at release time, publish checksums and
>>
On 08/17/2014 03:13 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>>> The goal here is to be able to host in the same repository the branches
>>> for
>>> multiple cooperating distributions (at least so that d
nd
> automatically handle all of them unless configured to do otherwise,
> making configuration usually unnecessary.
>
> - Josh Triplett
How about teaching systemd that script is sometimes necessary? It's
annoying to write a wrapper, because then, it does a fork to start the
daemon,
t.
>
> What we need is solving the FFmpeg/Libav split, not "well-meant"
> suggestions by outsiders how to change our development model.
The problem, as much as I understand it, was the review process and
enforcing policies. So it's natural to give advice on that, with a
compatibility with the other side.
>
> Of course, these reasons are interconnected.
Yeah. If both were fully compatible, there would be no issue using one
or the other.
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e to make it acceptable for the libav
people, and libav people should relax their policy. With *both* sides
trying to work on this, it may happen. If even *only one* of the teams
find excuses to not do a step forward, it wont.
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There's nothing Michael could do to reduce that work. However, as stated
before, uploading to Sid or Experimental could be done (if the SONAME
clash gets fixed), and I don't think anyone would oppose for more
contribution in Debian, especially with correct security support!
Thomas Goirand
On 08/18/2014 07:47 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 08/17/2014 03:52 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
>>>>> - the above layout is for the tradit
d a backword-compatibility mode.
And if upstream uses tar from BSD, game over...
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On 08/18/2014 03:08 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 08/18/2014 01:49 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Joey took various approaches to work around this, including shipping some
>> of the older versions of the compressors in the package. However, the
>> issue also applies to tar
On 08/18/2014 01:36 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> The upstream source *can* be changed and improved for everyone.
Truth, but not always practical. If I was going to fix all the defects
of software I package, I don't think I'd have enough time to sleep even
one hour per night.
Thomas
t;debcheckout", which
these days, a lot of people use. So we do publish both! apt-get source
even warns you about that fact.
The only thing is that we don't have multiple mirrors of VCSes, and it's
a lot more easy to have mirrors for static files. Also, there's many
let him understand the reasons that are pushing me to
work this way. I also feel like it's mostly a non-issue, for which
there's no reason to be that picky (just let go, Jeremy? :)).
BTW, some upstream are very cooperative, and started to add PGP tags,
and pay more attention to tags in ge
out (rightly)
to me by the FTP masters.
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ds we all agree
upon.
I have for the moment only wrote 4 desktops tasks, plus 5 for the
current pure blends, and 2 for OpenStack (which is what motivates me
here). These are also up for discussions (though obviously, we don't
want as many tasks as we have window manager (that is: more than 40)).
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have upstream sources. The above
is a waste of time.
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is helpful, because they are easy to modify.
I'm sure someone will reply to this thread with more nice ideas to
improve it even more.
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[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2014/09/msg00206.html
[2] https://wiki.deb
> "SSH Server" is the only task I consider actually useful.
Don't you also find that "print-server" is also useful?
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e console again to install it.
I haven't checked, but I trust Joey's sanity, and I don't think sshd has
been removed! :)
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> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>
>>
>> It's looking like some of the options are confusing for both advanced
>> users and newbies. The technologies behind the tasks are hidden, and
>> there
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g to what's above) that using
/usr/lib/sse4.2/x86_64-linux-gnu isn't supported (yet), right? (note: I
already asked upstream if it was possible to do runtime detection, and
the answer is currently no, unfortunately)
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On 09/15/2014 05:17 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Thomas Goirand, le Mon 15 Sep 2014 16:53:25 +0800, a écrit :
>> I suppose (according to what's above) that using
>> /usr/lib/sse4.2/x86_64-linux-gnu isn't supported (yet), right?
>
> I guess it shouldn't be hard
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these packages, where the bottleneck for large deployments will more be
the network transfers than uncompressing on each individual nodes.
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> Decompression costs were mentioned too, and they always matter
I don't agree.
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to deploy your cluster. Now imagine that this is a big HPC system that
we're talking about, and that you're paying a large amount of money to
rent it, then it's well possible that 3 to 4% is a significant cost.
Th
use z9 instead of (wrongly) generalizing? :)
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> I support that...
I don't.
> lintian warning for non-default compression
> lintian (auto-reject) error for > 7
Please don't do this.
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>>> compress, and ~65MiB to decompress.
>>
>> I&#
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is a fallacy, because that'll always be true
> (RAM has been getting cheaper since the 1940s, essentially; that doesn't
> mean you should just waste it for no particularly good reason other than
> "I'm lazy")
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ewest Debian architecture is ppc64el
Just to be sure: is ppc64el also using little endian?
Thomas
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ion correct?
Thanks in advance for your advice.
Regards, Thomas
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In the current state of Jessie there is no power saving in the base
desktop/laptop install. This would be a regression to Wheezy. Works as
intended?
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o tools are at work. Historically this is needed in Ubuntu and
> Debian < Jessie to coexist with the mandatory pm-utils.
> So i still mask them in the current package just in case someone
> else calls pm-powersave. A "conflicts" would have spared me the
> somewhat ugly postinst/p
Hi Vincent,
> Isn't the pm-powersave stuff still working due to being invoked by acpid?
Thanks for your hint.
I experimented a bit and found that acpid + acpi-support call
pm-suspend. I found nothing that calls pm-powersave upon changing the
power source (ac <-> bat).
R
emd it works as you say.
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that such a library would need to do for .ini files. This would
include not only reading and writing to .ini files, but also allow
maintenance of them, like for example moving a directive from one
section to another (when this happens upstream).
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
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lement its parsing by itself.
Well, no. What's the point then? To make your piece of software useful,
you must address as many cases as possible.
> For example, if there are functions for "read
> value from section", "delete value from section" and "write va
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