Re: lintian.debian.org off ?

2023-11-16 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! On Wed, 27 Sept 2023 at 13:27, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Hi, > > #1042428 is the bug for "no explanation for lintian tags on UDD" > > On 26/09/23 at 21:35 -0700, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > I know Lintian tag info is available via command line, but I > &

Re: Bug#1042428: lintian.debian.org off ?

2023-11-19 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> > This issue still exists. I would now have the need to send the url > > https://lintian.debian.org/tags/service-file-is-not-a-file to upstream > > developers to learn about this Lintian issue, but the URL does not > > serve any contents nor does it redirect to a new location. > > > > I am still

Re: Bug#1042428: lintian.debian.org off ?

2023-11-28 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> >> I finally fixed this. Sorry for the delay. > >> > >> https://udd.debian.org/lintian?packages=entr has a link for each lintian > >> tag, that points to (e.g.) > >> https://udd.debian.org/lintian-tag.cgi?tag=superfluous-file-pattern > >> That page includes a description of the tag as well as al

Running Lintian against a debian/ directory?

2023-12-22 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
tents as-is without doing a source build first? I am exploring this in order to get my text editor to nag about findings immediately without separate source build steps. Otto [1] https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/lintian/lintian.1.en.html

Re: Running Lintian against a debian/ directory?

2023-12-29 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> Paul already answered the lintian part, so I will skip that. But I also > wanted to suggest looking into integrated spell-checking in your editor > if possible. Having integrated spell-check will enable a much faster > feedback loop. Thanks the reply, but basic spell checking is pretty much alre

Re: [Pkg-pascal-devel] Issue with fpc_3.2.2+dfsg-24 in Sid.

2023-12-30 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi Abou! I can't help with the issue at hand, but as general advice for the future: if you had Salsa-CI enabled at https://salsa.debian.org/pascal-team/fpc/-/pipelines the build-all and build-any jobs would have probably caught this before upload. Just open https://salsa.debian.org/pascal-team/fp

Re: DebGPT: how LLM can help debian development? demo available.

2024-01-09 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! I've noticed that the most recent LLMs are actually very good at finding information, summarizing and giving code examples about Debian already without extra training. One just needs to double check that the answer was correct to not fall for when they are simply making up plausible sounding s

Static analyzer / linter for debian/rules?

2024-01-09 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
yntax issues which a static analyzer / linter could easily pick up so I was wondering if it could be automated. For example in one case[5] exporting DPKG_GENSYMBOLS_CHECK_LEVEL did not take effect due to easily detectable incorrect (but not fatal) syntax. - Otto [1] https://salsa.debian.org/mariadb

Bug#1060778: ITP: pulsar-edit -- A Community-led Hyper-Hackable Text Editor (formerly Atom)

2024-01-13 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Otto Kekäläinen X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: pulsar-edit Version : 1.112.1 Upstream Contact: ad...@pulsar-edit.dev * URL : https://pulsar-edit.dev/ * License : MIT Programming Lang

Editor extensions to help editing debian/* files?

2024-01-20 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
ork is so laboursome. One small thing that could ease the burden could be better editor integrations that help people write and maintain the debian/* files with less effort. - Otto [1] https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/developers-reference.en.html [2] https://optimizedbyotto.

Re: Editor extensions to help editing debian/* files?

2024-01-21 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! Thanks for the tip, Niels! It would be cool if dh_assistant had some kind of generic command like "dh_assistant validate" which would attempt to introspect all information silently and emit output only if it fails to parse something. Additionally it could emit a non-zero exit code on errors.

Re: Editor extensions to help editing debian/* files?

2024-01-21 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> I looked into better tooling/editor support in general for Debian > languages in general. I think the industry answer is that "someone" > ought to build a "language (LSP) server" for the Debian languages, which > would enable editors with LSP support[1] to get the same basic features. True - LSP

Re: Editor extensions to help editing debian/* files?

2024-01-25 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! > Thats beginning to look like the history of check-all-the-things. Yeah, I remember looking into cats some years back as a place to learn what commands exist. Similarly I also occasionally browse https://pre-commit.com/hooks.html. The challenge with having all possible checkers is that they

Re: Editor extensions to help editing debian/* files?

2024-01-28 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
sources inside a throwaway container.. ;) https://salsa.debian.org/otto/debcraft

Re: postgresql-16; wrong NMU versions (Re: 64-bit time_t transition in progress)

2024-02-04 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> Re: Steve Langasek > > Christoph Berg > >postgresql-16 (U) > > Please do not upload postgresql-16 before I ack the diff. > > I'll also note that *ALL* nmu diffs I've seen so far are using the > wrong version number in debian/changelog, missing the "~exp1" upload > from the actual upload. I'v

Re: postgresql-16; wrong NMU versions (Re: 64-bit time_t transition in progress)

2024-02-05 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> $ grep mariadb results/* > results/results_dumped.txt:libmariadb-dev > results/results_failed.txt:libmariadbd-dev > results/results_none.txt:libmariadb-dev > $ > > There was nothing unintentional here. libmariadb-dev is clean wrt time_t. > libmariadbd-dev failed to be analyzed because it has hea

Re: time_t transition and bugs

2024-03-03 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Thanks Steve for uploading a fixed curl on Saturday. Just checking did you notice amel/armhf are still not building due to secondary issues and n dependencies? https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=curl

openssl 3.1.5-1.1 effect on reverse dependencies

2024-03-06 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi Benjamin! You recently uploaded openssl 3.1.5-1.1. Are you tracking the effect it had on reverse dependencies? Do you have plans to do any follow-up uploads or +b1 rebuilds of other packages? For example curl is unable to satisfy build dependencies on armhf/armel at the moment: https://build

Re: 64-bit time_t transition: cargo needs manual intervention

2024-03-14 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! Is anyone perhaps planning to fix cargo? For example curl isn't building on armel/armhf now and numerous packages that depend of curl are not building on armel/armhf. Thanks in advance to the person who steps up.

Re: 64-bit time_t transition: cargo needs manual intervention

2024-03-15 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! pe 15. maalisk. 2024 klo 6.56 Fabian Grünbichler kirjoitti: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:03:57PM -0700, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Is anyone perhaps planning to fix cargo? > > > > For example curl isn't building on armel/armhf now and num

Is it allowed to remove attribution in public domain "licensed" source code? (and pondering about ftp-level reviews)

2024-03-30 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
opers, perhaps via a new review tool. - Otto [1] https://salsa.debian.org/salsa-ci-team/pipeline/-/issues/342 (missing git tags after upload) [2] https://salsa.debian.org/salsa-ci-team/pipeline/-/issues/343 (misconfigured upstream git branches)

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-30 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
27;ll just stop contributing. I am doing all my builds inside a (Podman) container with the sources loop-mounted. Thus I can use git and visual code editor directly on sources with full access, but when the build runs, it is fully inside a container that has no host access nor even network access. To achieve this I wrote a tool which you might want to check out: https://salsa.debian.org/otto/debcraft

Re: Tool to build Debian packages not requiring root in containers ?

2024-05-07 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
dependencies and build the > package ? Can you give me an example of a package you want to build and what is the starting point, and I can tell you what command to issue to https://salsa.debian.org/otto/debcraft to achieve it? It supports running Podman in user mode (=no root permissions n

Re: Tool to build Debian packages not requiring root in containers ?

2024-05-08 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! ti 7. toukok. 2024 klo 23.01 Charles Plessy kirjoitti: > Le Tue, May 07, 2024 at 08:17:31PM -0700, Otto Kekäläinen a écrit : > > > > Can you give me an example of a package you want to build and what is > > the starting point, and I can tell you what command

Salsa - best thing in Debian in recent years? (Re: finally end single-person maintainership)

2024-05-18 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
an archive from needless widespread failures. Thanks, Otto

Re: Salsa - best thing in Debian in recent years? (Re: finally end single-person maintainership)

2024-05-19 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
ou try it out, and still think Salsa is bad for Debian, then I am more willing to accept your stanze. - Otto

Re: Salsa - best thing in Debian in recent years? (Re: finally end single-person maintainership)

2024-05-19 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Thanks for reply Jonas, > > You could go to > > https://salsa.debian.org/debbugs-team/debbugs/-/merge_requests/19 and > > conduct a code review? > > > > You might discover that GitLab is useful and is not duplicating > > Debbugs or anything else in Debian - it is currently the only platform > > to

Re: Debian 10 "buster" moved to archive.debian.org

2024-05-19 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 at 01:32, Ansgar 🙀 wrote: > > Hi, > > Debian 10 "buster" has moved to archive.debian.org in order to free > space on the main mirror network. We plan to start removing files for > non-LTS architectures in about two weeks; the existing Release files > will then refer to no long

Re: Salsa - best thing in Debian in recent years? (Re: finally end single-person maintainership)

2024-05-20 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> > Ideally debbugs should be made non-native so that some else could > > maintain the Debian package. > > I'm happy to review patches that get the 2.6 branch of debbugs in shape > where it can be released into Debian again if someone wants to take that > effort. I've just assumed that anyone using

Re: Any volunteers for lintian co-maintenance?

2024-05-20 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! > > If I am successful, then lintian can specialize its efforts into issues only > > visible in packaged artifacts and thereby reduce it scope a bit. > > Perfect. I'd love to have some policy checking at "the right point in > time". I'd love to support this but as far as I understand even yo

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-05-20 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
s not see value in granting more people commit permissions. If we learn how these maintainers think, perhaps we can come up with a model to facilitate having more co-maintenance that can apply to the exact cases where co-maintenance is missing. - Otto

Re: Salsa - best thing in Debian in recent years? (Re: finally end single-person maintainership)

2024-05-21 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! On Sun, 19 May 2024 at 20:48, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Sun, 19 May 2024, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Also debbugs is a special case: > > The debbugs Debian package (as opposed to the debbugs software) have never > > been > > really maintained. I am actually one of the very few users of this

Re: Debian 10 "buster" moved to archive.debian.org

2024-05-24 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! So just to clarify, are you saying that a copy of https://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/buster/ will never be archived at https://archive.debian.org/debian-security/dists/ like previous releases have been so far? This is not about getting *new security updates*, but purely a quest

Re: MBF: Building packages in the (not so distant) future

2024-05-26 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Plus one to this initiative! I also wanted to share the tip to use libfaketime as the easiest way to test if a build or test suite works on an arbitrary future date. I am currently testing that the MariaDB upstream test suite passes in 2037 and 2028 using libfaketime like this: https://salsa.debia

MariaDB 10.5 has entered Debian testing (will be in Bullseye)

2020-11-26 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
adb-10.5 commits : 197 authors : 187 Otto Kekäläinen 94.9% 2 Christian Göttsche 1.0% 2 Helmut Grohne 1.0% 1 Aurelien Jarno 0.5% 1 Bastian Germann 0.5% 1 Christian Ehrhardt 0.5% 1 Daniel Black0.5% 1 Faustin Lammler 0.5%

Re: MariaDB 10.5 has entered Debian testing (will be in Bullseye)

2020-11-26 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
to 26. marrask. 2020 klo 18.45 Thomas Goirand kirjoitti: > Hi Otto, > > On 11/26/20 4:44 PM, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > Hello! > > > > MariaDB 10.5 release 1:10.5.8-3 finally entered Debian testing > > today[1]. It has been in unstable since early September, and

Re: MariaDB 10.5 has entered Debian testing (will be in Bullseye)

2020-11-26 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> So, if I understand well, if I have 3 MariaDB Buster nodes in a cluster, > I just need to dist-upgrade them to Bullseye, and it will automagically > just work and upgrade to Galera 4? If so, that's just great, because > during our last discussion in Brazil, you told me about something a way > mor

Tools to better colorize the command-line experience?

2021-01-07 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
particular interested in generic from the point of view that they would work well in different shells and terminal connections, and support a wide array of log file formats or program outputs, and thus would best serve an average Linux distro user. - Otto [1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ccze [2

Re: Tools to better colorize the command-line experience?

2021-02-21 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 at 04:01, Seth Arnold wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 11:02:24PM +0200, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > Do you have any tips about generic command-line coloring programs? > > The bat package provides a batcat program that'll add colour to a lot of &

Tips for debugging/testing debian/control Depends/Breaks etc changes?

2021-03-24 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
anually and repackaging them with 'ar' is not an option that would make life easier). Thanks for any tips you have on the topic! - Otto

Re: Tips for debugging/testing debian/control Depends/Breaks etc changes?

2021-03-29 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Thanks David, using --with-sources is exactly what I needed. As a starting point I have the *.deb I've built. In the same directory I create a Packages file with: apt-ftparchive packages . > ./Packages Then I install using it: apt install --with-source ./Packages -s mariadb-server mariadb-client

File moved from one package to another - use Conflicts/Replaces or Breaks/Replaces?

2021-04-03 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! In MariaDB we have over the years moved files around. A file that was first in e.g. mariadb-server-10.3 might have been moved to mariadb-server-core-10.3 and some years later to mariadb-client-core-10.5. The result is a massive debian/control file with a lot of Conflicts/Breaks/Replaces [1]

Re: File moved from one package to another - use Conflicts/Replaces or Breaks/Replaces?

2021-04-05 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hell! On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 4:54 AM Andreas Metzler wrote: > > On 2021-04-03 Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > Hello! > > > In MariaDB we have over the years moved files around. A file that was first > > in e.g. mariadb-server-10.3 might have been moved to > > mariad

Re: Tips for debugging/testing debian/control Depends/Breaks etc changes?

2021-04-05 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! > For me, this whole situation seems wrong though. Why do you have > versioned package names (mariadb-server-*) when they are all mutually > exclusive with one another due to all shipping the same binary? This is how the MySQL packaging has been structured for the past 10 years or so. Ther

MariaDB Foundation looking to hire/contract Debian packaging expert

2021-07-10 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
g new interesting features and you could have your say in them. If you are at all keen to do FOSS and MariaDB full-time, or if you have friends who might be interested, please check out https://mariadb.org/debian-ubuntu-packaging-expert/ or reach out to dan...@mariadb.org for more info. - Otto PS.

New systemd service file path?

2021-10-05 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! I noticed that Lintian has recently started erroring on https://lintian.debian.org/tags/systemd-service-in-odd-location I can't find this requirement anywhere in the Debian Policy, e.g. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#starting-system-services does not mention anyth

How to fix Lintian 'no-code-sections'?

2021-11-26 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
ebug_info (or https://paste.debian.net/1220493/ with no line breaks) Any suggestions how to debug this locally so I can validate if various changes in debian/rules fixes it or not? - Otto

Re: How to fix Lintian 'no-code-sections'?

2021-11-27 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 5:30 AM Simon McVittie wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 22:10:45 -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > Lintian in Debian unstable has a new test that my package is failing on: > > https://lintian.debian.org/tags/no-code-sections > > As with any Lintia

Re: TMPDIR behaviour in maintainer scripts [was: Re: Bug#1023778: mysql-server-8.0: fails to restart on upgrade with libpam-tmpdir]

2022-11-12 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
anually trying to manage TMPDIR env variable in various places, we should have a standardized way to run maintainer scripts in clean shell sessions that have all env variables set automatically correctly. More proposals on how to handle this are welcome at https://salsa.debian.org/mariadb-team/mariadb-server/-/merge_requests :) - Otto

Re: [Salsa CI] stop building dbgsym packages by default?

2022-11-12 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
=noautodbgsym` be opt-in > or enabled by default? The proposal to make it opt-in makes sense to me. - Otto

depends-on-obsolete-package lsb-base

2023-01-18 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! Lintian just started erroring on 'depends-on-obsolete-package lsb-base' on many of my packages yesterday. There are no new uploads of lsb-base recently and I did not find any news about this topic. The Lintian page https://lintian.debian.org/tags/depends-on-obsolete-package is only about the e

Re: depends-on-obsolete-package lsb-base

2023-01-21 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 09:00, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > On 2023-01-18 Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > Lintian just started erroring on 'depends-on-obsolete-package > > lsb-base' on many of my packages yesterday. There are no new uploads > [...] > >

Re: depends-on-obsolete-package lsb-base

2023-01-21 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
ved: $ lintian-brush --version lintian-brush 0.145 $ lintian-brush --allow-reformatting --uncertain --yolo --modern $ git show commit a0a2bf5d6972348114b6d6d489619353c539bd74 (HEAD -> dev-otto) Add missing dependency on lsb-base. Changes-By: lintian-brush Fixes: lintian: init.d-script-

MariaDB 10.11 in Bookworm - call for contributions

2023-02-23 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
e NEWS for 10.11 requires no coding skills: https://salsa.debian.org/mariadb-team/mariadb-server/-/merge_requests/37 - Otto

Re: MariaDB 10.11 in Bookworm - call for contributions

2023-02-25 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 at 08:22, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > Hello! > > (Stop reading if you don't use MariaDB) > > I am currently preparing the upload of MariaDB 10.11.2-2 to Debian > unstable and aim for the highest possible quality. I am currently > doing the bulk

Re: MariaDB 10.11 in Bookworm - call for contributions

2023-03-13 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mariadb and post MRs to fix whatever you found and want to fix yourself. 4. Review and triage/close open bug reports at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=mariadb&src=mariadb-10.6&src=mariadb-10.5&src=mariadb-10.3&src=mariadb-10.1 - Otto

devscripts uninstallable in Debian Sid due to unmet dependencies

2019-10-06 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! It seems devscripts cannot be installed in Sid at the moment. I was not able to find a bug report about this on bugs.debian.org and I cannot follow up the dependencies on what package actually is stopping it. Anybody else experiencing this as well? $ docker run -it debian:sid bash root@

Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2019-12-26 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! I've seen many times before statements like these so I'd like to raise some discussion around the topic: pe 13. syysk. 2019 klo 16.36 Bastian Blank (wa...@debian.org) kirjoitti: > On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 05:35:10PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > The Salsa CA pipeline is recommended. > > For

Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2020-01-01 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
bug tracker at salsa/support.. Thanks again for everybody maintaining and developing Salsa, the CI and all that comes with them. That has been a huge boost in my motivation to continue Debian work and makes me much more productive than ever before. - Otto

Best practices for Debian developers who are also upstreams?

2020-02-08 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
ndle the debian/changelog file and a couple of other details. I would be very keen to learn from others before inventing too much of new. - Otto

Re: Best practices for Debian developers who are also upstreams?

2020-02-08 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
ion strings. This is something I seek to find an elegant solution for.. - Otto

Re: Best practices for Debian developers who are also upstreams?

2020-02-09 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
life much easier for the Debian maintainer, and in general all distros and the whole upstream code base benefits of the extra QA. - Otto

Re: Best practices for Debian developers who are also upstreams?

2020-02-09 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
projects I maintain in Debian if the upstreams trust me enough to give write access. The closer a maintainer is to the upstream, the better everything will be I reason. - Otto

Re: Is there any way to refuse Janitor changes in team git?

2020-04-19 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
>From >https://janitor.debian.net/lintian-fixes/#i-dont-find-this-useful-how-do-i-stop-it >I don’t find this useful. How do I stop it? >If you ignore or close the first merge proposal, there won't be any more for >the same maintainer. >You can also just comment on the merge proposal that you don

Pimp your shell - Debian developer tips?

2020-05-27 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! Do we have Debian devs here who have pimped their shell heavily with custom prompts, colors, command line fonts, shell window title hacks, perhaps using zsh etc? Have you written blogs about you experiences, can you share some good reads (with screenshots) of what you have done? I've read

Re: Pimp your shell - Debian developer tips?

2020-06-14 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
an yet: https://towardsdatascience.com/rust-powered-command-line-utilities-to-increase-your-productivity-eea03a4cf83a - Otto

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-28 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! Just my 2 cents: I hope Debian would not rush to any changes here. Lets just stay neutral for now. The subject seems very US-centric and there is a risk that it is creating division among people forcing them to take sides on issues that previously were not political at all. Here is some ba

Re: NMU for Imagemagick?

2020-06-29 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! > > Imagemagick in Debian is extremely outdated (6.9.10.23 vs 7.0.10-21), > > causing some FTBFS on packages that depend on it. .. > It doesn't need a one time NMU, but an additional 1-3 active maintainers. > Failing that, we should rather drop it for bullseye. Personally I prefer the drop

Re: Accepting / adopting DEP-14

2020-08-25 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! Finalizing and publishing DEP-14 would be nice. I have been using git-buildpackage for all of my packages for many years already, and thus been automatically following these guidelines as they are followed by git-buildpackage. There are only two diversions I've noted: - in git-buildpackag

Re: Pimp your shell - Debian developer tips?

2020-09-25 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! ma 8. kesäk. 2020 klo 12.04 Arturo Borrero Gonzalez (art...@debian.org) kirjoitti: > > On 5/27/20 9:06 PM, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > Hello! > > > > Do we have Debian devs here who have pimped their shell heavily with custom > > prompts, colors, command line f

Re: Installer of Debian Stable allows to use btrfs for /, does it mean it's mature enough to use safely?

2016-07-09 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
2016-07-08 17:55 GMT+03:00 : > I value stability of a FS over other considerations like shiny new features > and performance. I know that Debian Stable includes only that versions of > software that were considered rock-solid and mostly bug-free. But on the > other hand I read documentation for

Introducing default-mysql-* metapackages

2016-07-10 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
asonable time otherwise. If you wish to participate in testing or finalizing this scheme, please reply to this thread or write to pkg-mysql-maint@. On behalf ot the pkg-mysql team, - Otto

Re: [debian-mysql] Introducing default-mysql-* metapackages

2016-08-16 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! 2016-08-16 7:44 GMT+03:00 Rene Engelhard : > On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 05:22:22PM +0300, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: >> Hello maintainers of packages that depend in MySQL/MariaDB! > > Not everyone is required to read -devel. Mailing them where they read > it (and be it Cc&

Re: Introducing default-mysql-* metapackages

2016-09-05 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
s metapackages. I would be fine by doing what you suggest. What does Robie and others who are more vested in maintaining Oracle packages think about this? - Otto

Re: Allow mirroring new -dbgsym packages?

2016-12-30 Thread Carsten Otto
explanation about mirroring that repo. I don't know about other official sources, but our mirror also offers the debian-debug repo: http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/debian-debug ftp://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/debian-debug rsync://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/debian-debug Bye, Carsten --

Re: Files-Excluded with DEP-14

2024-10-15 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 at 00:05, Joachim Zobel wrote: > > Hi. > > DEP-14 states under "About repacked upstream sources" that files that > are removed from repacked sources should not be in the upstream > branches. > > This does however create modify/delete conflicts when upstream modifies > the

Re: Alternative signature mechanisms for upstream source verification

2024-10-06 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! ... > That setup sounds nice! What is your workflow to import a new upstream > release? > > I see the watch file still points to the tarball: > > https://salsa.debian.org/mariadb-team/mariadb-server/-/blob/debian/latest/debian/watch > > Would it be possible to extend the debian/watch syntax t

Re: Alternative signature mechanisms for upstream source verification

2024-10-05 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
ails, see gbp.conf in the package (https://salsa.debian.org/mariadb-team/mariadb-server/-/blob/debian/latest/debian/gbp.conf). - Otto PS. Massive thanks to Guido for maintaining git-buildpackage, it is a gem!

Re: lintian.debian.org off ?

2024-10-25 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! ... > > FWIW, I'm happy to administer the service and if Otto also signs up > > for this with me, we would be two DDs. > > > > I think Nicolas has done great job working on this and I've proved I > > was motivated in helping fixing things in Lintia

Re: Most optimal way to import NMU into existing git-builpackage repository?

2024-10-30 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi, ma 28. lokak. 2024 klo 4.27 Sean Whitton kirjoitti: > > Hello, > > On Sun 27 Oct 2024 at 05:29pm GMT, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > > Hi! > > > >> > Seems this is still the most optimal way to ensure git is correct: > >> > > >> >

Re: Most optimal way to import NMU into existing git-builpackage repository?

2024-10-27 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! > > Seems this is still the most optimal way to ensure git is correct: > > > >gbp import-dsc --verbose --pristine-tar apt:j4-dmenu-desktop/sid > > > > Also, dgit pull can be used to get the latest source automatically, but > > unfortunately those > > git commits are made as a custom "Debi

Re: Handling of merge requests on salsa.d.o for debian-xen.

2024-11-11 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 at 11:37, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 06:03:22PM +0100, Alexandre GRIVEAUX wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Some time ago I created some merge request on salsa for debian-xen: > > > > https://salsa.debian.org/xen-team/debian-xen/-/merge_requests?scope=a

Re: DEP-18: Git and GitLab usage in other Linux distros (Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git)

2024-11-09 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! ... > > - The number of contributors/maintainers is low everywhere. Ending > > single-person maintainership is not going to happen any soon, but hopefully, > > we can work towards first increasing the pool of contributors who > > participate, and then expand on practices around Merge Requests

Re: Any Progress on DEP-18 ("Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages")?

2024-11-09 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! Thanks for following up. Based on the feedback about the goal/scope I decided to rewrite the DEP-18 almost completely, and published a new draft at https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/12 On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 at 03:14, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > It's been a while since -dev

Salsa CI documentation updated

2024-09-24 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
eview that your current usage is optimal. We also added a RUNNERS.md for those who want to experiment with customer runners or donate CI capacity to Debian. Feedback and improvement suggestions are also welcome as Merge Requests are via email. - Otto

Re: Salsa CI documentation updated

2024-09-27 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! On Fri, 27 Sept 2024 at 09:38, Iustin Pop wrote: ...> I just added a barebone config for one of my packages, and while the > pipeline worked, I got an error for the arm64 cross-compile that seems > to be due to tooling issues: In addition to what Johannes replied about cross-builds having is

Re: lintian.debian.org off ?

2024-09-20 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
for helping us get lintian.debian.org recreated! Otto

Most optimal way to import NMU into existing git-builpackage repository?

2024-10-25 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
rbose --pristine-tar apt:j4-dmenu-desktop/sid This will both check if there are any newer uploads than what git knows about, and if needed, also download, apply and commit the uploads using the uploader as the git author. The result of this particular example is visible in https://salsa.debian.org/ot

Re: Most optimal way to import NMU into existing git-builpackage repository?

2024-10-25 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Thanks for all the comments! Trying to summarize and expand on the points raised: Seems this is still the most optimal way to ensure git is correct: gbp import-dsc --verbose --pristine-tar apt:j4-dmenu-desktop/sid Also, dgit pull can be used to get the latest source automatically, but unfort

Re: Files-Excluded with DEP-14

2024-10-15 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 at 05:47, Joachim Zobel wrote: > > Am Dienstag, dem 15.10.2024 um 00:09 -0700 schrieb Otto Kekäläinen: > > I suspect you have something wrong with the branch structure, perhaps > > you are trying to remove files in actual upstream branch and not the &g

Re: Strategy advice

2024-11-24 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> > I'm still trying to understand if it's a good idea to contact > > upstream authors and tell them their software is being worked on to > > be included in Debian, or not. .. > So my advice is to go for it, maintaining software in Debian is much > more fun when there is a positive exchange with th

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

2024-11-29 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> I believe that Otto's lets-standardize-on-salsa effort is fundamentally > a good thing. Let's help him flesh out the details. Thanks! Please also help Guido iterate on git-buildpackage so that it works well, is easy to debug, has good docs etc. Based on discussions in this thread there are a l

Re: DEP-0, DEP0 or DEP 0?

2024-11-28 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Thanks Gioele for the stats. I noticed that 90% of the votes came in the first two days. In this system you can unvote and put your thumbs up on another proposal if you want to change your mind now after letting the question sink in for a few weeks, but please make sure you have voted only on one

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-28 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
754abaefe7ca7ebf79 fatal: the remote end hung up unexpectedly ± gbp export-orig --pristine-tar gbp:info: Creating /home/otto/debian/js-team/node-cacache_17.0.3+~cs10.3.7.orig.tar.gz gbp:info: Creating /home/otto/debian/js-team/node-cacache_17.0.3+~cs10.3.7.orig-fs-minipass.tar.gz gbp:info: Creati

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-18 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! > With all the recent talk about increasing the use of git for > packaging, I'd like to address one thing: git-buildpackage is very > complex to use. As an alternative, I'd like to propose a simpler > setup: .. > sick of it and I can tell you it only makes me want to ignore you. If > you ask

Re: DEP-0, DEP0 or DEP 0?

2024-11-14 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Your are right Simon, the body actually says "DEP0" and only title has DEP-0 ( https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/blob/master/web/deps/dep0.mdwn#L1). The changelog even has "DEP 0". Front page of dep-team.pages.debian.net spells it with a space.. The role model https://peps.python.org/pep-00

DEP-18 v2: request for comments

2024-11-17 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
this way of working, and hopefully doing it in a way that it does not stifle work for maintainers who prefer to continue their single-maintainer habits, so nobody feels at loss. On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 at 19:13, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > Hi! > > While I intend to continue on iterating

Re: DEP-0, DEP0 or DEP 0?

2024-11-17 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Thanks for the comments! Let's implement this. Please vote on which variant you prefer by giving a thumbs up at https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/13 Unify DEP spelling with a dash instead of a space (e.g. "DEP-0") OR https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/mer

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

2024-11-21 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> > collecting stats from Debian packages, using for example data points > > that 13573 packages in Debian have explicitly a debian/gbp.conf file > > already. > > I guess those data points include how many packages use salsa, with > various Gitlab features enabled. > > Since various Gitlab features

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-20 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! > fwiw, I'm also not using git-buildpackage and I don't want to. (Step learning > curve, too much magic, hard to debug and I dont see benefits for the packages > I maintain.) I'm also not a beginner. And I love gbp-dch. I think git-buildpackage is great, and I am a happy user. However, it too

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