that apt-spy's mirror list and the PCI
IDs should be kept in /var, since they are variable data.
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> (a) it did not display a question (due to priority or seen status)
nevermind. db_input returns this...
it's very weird. sometimes, the following echoes 30 in bash 3:
db_input ... || true
when in fact i
programmes will fire alarms.
Lastly, the policy promises that /usr can be read-only and
guarantees software to be fully functional.
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> comply with the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) ...
Exactly.
> What software writes to /usr ?
As noted in the OP, apt-spy, pciutils, and probably others.
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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: pstat
Version : 0.1.0
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* URL : http://madduck.net/~madduck/scratch/pstat
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Package: wnpp
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* Package name: dpkg-reversion
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o dpkg, then reversion should be too.
I really think reversion should be available.
> Can you please use deb-reversion instead?
I could, and I do not have a preference. What do others say?
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Version 0.1.16 is still at
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>
> I think it's useless,
it's not.
I will probably rename it to debedit.
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> Repacking and editting then become easy to do.
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should be 0640.
- why is dmesg 0644? This is not really a problem, but do users
need access to the boot messages?
I would appreciate comments...
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> also sprach Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.12.12.1708 +0100]:
> > My mail.* files are 640 and I don't remember having done anything
> > special for that to happen.
>
> Judg
t and using logrotate's defaults seems to solve
this. Other than that, however, I do not see any immediate problems.
Please contribute your thoughts.
PS: maybe we can also flatten news/* or deepen mail.* on the way.
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Sorry, but I truly do not see a "consensus" here.
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differ from tabs as provided e.g. by fluxbox.
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but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
-- voltaire
You must have had horrible experiences with your computer. I am
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See also #284637 (sorry if this is known...)
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Please send any comments or corrections my way.
PS: right now it's really big in size. Sorry about that. If someone
tells me how to reliably scale a dia diagram down, I will do so,
gladly.
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able, should add that), the buildds really don't
deal with the upstream sources or the unpacked source tree
maintained by the developer.
I am not sure what you mean. Sorry.
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diff.gz and .orig.tar.gz
> files.
Right, and incoming also contains them. The "sources" item is really
supposed to be the upstream sources or the directory on the
developer's machine holding the stuff, but inaccessible as such to
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the collection, but it sounds weird.
That's it for now.
To get our graphs onto www.debian.org, I assume we file bugs against
that pseudo-package. Let me know when you are ready, then we can
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>
> there is an existing package that could include these? or to make an
> ITP?
www.debian.org is a pseudo package:
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages
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looks okay. Thanks!
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> Heck, just let them get a recent kernel and be much better off!
> Put the kernel and the swsusp patch into "volatile".
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you are the sponsor of hibernate, maybe we should be working closer
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libkdtree++
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Hi all,
I am trying to use distcc to compile Debian packages and kernels,
and am failing. The reason is that I need to use distcc-over-SSH,
but the Debian compile process is run as (fake)root. Thus, it tries
to use /root/.ssh for configuration and node verification, which is
not accessible to the
but we'll see... argh. It seems that some people
(including myself when I wrote these scripts) think that `fakeroot
dpkg-buildpackage` is the same as `dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot`).
Thanks; it's too early in the day for me to have thought of this
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> ssh -i usualy helps.
not if you cannot influence how SSH is called.
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ight not good?
Also see #286695.
> So, the question is: Should usbmount be included in Debian?
Since you and Rafael deem it useful, I guess that it should. I am
not opposed to the package at all. I just think that there are other
ways to do it. But that's just me.
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, but I would be happy to work with
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I think switchconf is nice because it ties in well with guessnet,
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Am I making sense?
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http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2004/09/msg00014.html
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> 2. difficulty with bugs. How do you close a bug, if it doesn't
> work on some arches? The open bug count would go even higher.
You don't close it, period. Or we introduce arch-dependent bugs
and/or fixed-in-i386 etc tags...
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> * martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050317 17:10]:
> > Why can't we have separate sid->testing propagation for each arch,
> > then freeze testing as before, get rid of RC bugs, and release?
&
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> That said, the chance of a package going out of sync on more than
> a few architectures is minimal, so even though your speculation is
> correct, it's likely not going to be in effect ever.
and
osen the
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ffed *now*, AFAICT; and you want to increase
> their workload for etch on the assumption that nothing bad will come of it?
No, I said we should stock the security team, which I meant to read
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> Ubuntu's excellence shouldn't be an excuse to sit back and not
> make our Desktop the best possible.
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> Interested parties please reply privately. I'd enjoy working with
> others on this. We can create an alioth project if necessary.
My latest working tree is at
http://madduck.net/~madduck/scr
of potentially untested or buggy hardware
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is what I use on one of my machines, and it works like
a charm:
KERNEL="eth*", SYSFS{address}="00:10:dc:c8:85:07", NAME="lan"
I suggest not using NAME="ethX" because there may be name clashes.
Use a completely different name instead.
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Sorry.
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#x27;s instructions were only for replacing these Base35 fonts.
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Ah, this is new, or at least wasn't supported a year ago. Thanks for
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Okay. I just wanted the issue thought over. I have no objections
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solutions you see?
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> Has that not been announced in any public place?
Not that I know. I got this information in the "hallway track"
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> Subconcious fear to delivery in time ? Probably yes. Stop thinking
> about who you're going to ask to be expelled next and spend some
> time considering not my words, but just Etch.
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What are the reasons against leaving them around?
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Thus, I am closing the bug.
Sorry for the noise.
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promising, but the approach I tried...
1 + 2 -> A
A + 3 -> B
B + 4 -> C
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did not work (it can only merge pairs).
Thanks for any help.
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e patch without having to go through the process of
patching and diffing the kernel source.
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rely not one hundred of them.
Sure, I can make a custom kernel patch package without kpatches, but
then I'd have to write apply and unapply scripts too. Why bother
when kpatches does so already?
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patches if one of them fails.
Good idea, I will try this. Right now, my custom solution works. But
you are right, stupid me not to have thought of this before...
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> stock kernel?
swsusp in the stock kernel is very unstable. I have had better
experience with swsusp2. That's all.
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