Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-15 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 16:10 +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 16:51 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:41:16 +, Scott James Remnant > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 15:38 +0100, Marc Haber wr

Re: Bug#263743: Call For Help - Please support the ppc64 architecture

2005-03-16 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 20:27 +0100, Andreas Jochens wrote: > This is a call for help from the 'ppc64' porters. > Which group? According to Sven Luther's e-mail to debian-devel there are currently two competing efforts for this port. Scott -- Have you ever, ever felt like this? Had strange thin

Re: Bug#263743: Call For Help - Please support the ppc64 architecture

2005-03-16 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 22:48 +0100, Andreas Jochens wrote: > On 05-Mar-16 21:16, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 20:27 +0100, Andreas Jochens wrote: > > > > > This is a call for help from the 'ppc64' porters. > > > > > W

Re: Bug#263743: Call For Help - Please support the ppc64 architecture

2005-03-16 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 23:14 +0100, Andreas Jochens wrote: > On 05-Mar-16 22:01, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 22:48 +0100, Andreas Jochens wrote: > > > > My concern is the same as that of the Project Leader, that the existing > > powerpc port

Re: Bug#263743: Call For Help - Please support the ppc64 architecture

2005-03-16 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2005-03-17 at 00:31 +0100, Andreas Jochens wrote: > On 05-Mar-16 22:24, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > > So you would add 'powerpc64' support to dpkg if the port changes its > > > package name accordingly? > > > > > Yes, that

Re: Bug#263743: Call For Help - Please support the ppc64 architecture

2005-03-16 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2005-03-17 at 01:57 +0100, Andreas Jochens wrote: > On 05-Mar-17 00:10, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > No, I would just prefer consistency. You've deliberately chosen an > > architecture name that's jarringly different from your 32-bit variant; > > that

Re: Packages still shipping schemas in /etc

2005-11-16 Thread James A. Treacy
On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 11:02:40AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > James A. Treacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >gramps Fixed in gramps 2.0.8-5. -- James Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sabbatical

2006-01-12 Thread Scott James Remnant
Hi guys, For various personal reasons you've probably not seen me around much in the last few months; and unfortunately, for the same reasons I've decided to take a Sabbatical from working on Debian. I've already arranged maintainership of both of my packages: Matthias Klose will take over bui

Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Scott James Remnant
As a few people have noticed, the Ubuntu patches repository is currently producing some unusual results; in particular the patches seem to include Debian changes as well as Ubuntu ones. The patches are produced by a tool we oh-so-amusingly call NDA (Nightly Difference Analysis), which like the MOM

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Scott James Remnant
On 2/21/06, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.02.21.1506 +0100]: > > File a request here: > > https://launchpad.net/products/nda/+addticket > > This isn't a rant, but a serious wishl

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-22 Thread Scott James Remnant
On 2/21/06, Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You probably missed this question, which I also wanted to ask: > Frank forwarded it to me, and I replied to him in person -- here's the reply. > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 03:55:23PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: >

Maintainer for fftw 2.1.3 requested

2006-03-14 Thread James A. Treacy
their name removed from being listed as the maintainer of a package(s)? Bugs were filed against wnpp in Aug 2004 to orphan the fftw packages listed above but I still am getting all mails related to them. -- James Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: too many directories in /usr/doc?

1997-11-30 Thread James A . Treacy
> I'm taking over maintaining the linux-gazette packages from Christian > Schwarz, and I would prefer to just have /usr/doc/lg/copyright, rather than > having one in each /usr/doc/lg-issueXX directory. There will not be anything > else in /usr/doc/lg-issueXX as the issues are installed in /usr/doc/

Re: regarding the recent problems with http://www.debian.org

1997-12-02 Thread James A . Treacy
> Watch out, they haven't done the IP number change yet. Hopefully I can get > it done tomorrow. > No problemo. No DNS changes will be made to www.debian.org until everything is stable and va.debian.org's IP i changed. The only rush is to get a fully working www.debian.org - Jay -- TO UNSUBSCRI

Re: WWW bug monitoring

1997-12-05 Thread James A . Treacy
> Why don't we create a new psuedo-package for the mirroring problems, > or one for problems with the content ? Please discuss this with Mike > and I or Guy can arrange this easily enough, and I'll make my script > report the bugs in whatever is the appropriate psuedo-package. > www.debian.org is

Re: Removal of debian usenet gateway

1997-12-10 Thread James A . Treacy
I agree with everything Ian wrote. Might there be an exception for debian-user though? This is the one group for which we should welcome a wide exposure. - Jay -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: syslogd taking up lots of CPU..

1997-12-12 Thread James A . Treacy
> Hm. For some reason, today, syslogd started taking up more than its > share of CPU. (About 20% on a P200.) > I wonder if this is related to a problem I've been having recently. Every console has been getting messages like the following at random times > Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Thu Dec

Debian web pages need help

1997-12-16 Thread James A . Treacy
The Debian web pages need the help of someone who follows bugtraq. Currently the security web page is updated at random times (and not very well). If you already follow bugtraq then you could help Debian a lot by sending updates to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you already follow bugtraq, then this won't b

check out Captain Blue-Eye

1997-12-20 Thread James A . Treacy
The web pages should all be utilizing Captain Blue-Eye in a reasonably good way right now. The changes ended up occurring sooner than I'd hoped so I had to rush. I'm pretty sure all the major problems are fixed, but I'd appreciate it if people could thoroughly look through the pages and report any

Re: driver for Epson Stylus 300

1998-01-05 Thread James A . Treacy
> Does anyone know if there is a ghostscript driver for this new printer > available? Yes, I can use the other Stylus drivers, but that means the > printer tries to print black by mixing the other three colors, not by using > the black ink. > There may be another way, but you can by installing gs-a

Is there a maintainer for the install doc?

1998-01-05 Thread James A . Treacy
Is anyone maintaining the Debian installation manual? I know that Sven is no longer doing it. If not, we will need a volunteer. - Jay -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: Debian and the millenium bug

1998-01-05 Thread James A . Treacy
Bruce, You are causing me all sorts of trouble. The post used the word 'effected' when 'affected' is what you wanted. Some of the letters I'm getting are quite detailed in their explanation of why effected is incorrect. Want me to send them to you? ;) The best part is that none of these anal ret

Re: Debian and the millenium bug

1998-01-06 Thread James A . Treacy
> > Where did you get this 4000 years figure anyway? 33 bits would just > > Oh, having become hopelessly confused by the original posting, I came > up with some additional errors (the 16x10^18 is just as wrong, too; > 584,942,417,355 is more like it...) Comes of posting to debian lists > in my s

Re: driver for Epson Stylus 300

1998-01-06 Thread James A . Treacy
> Yes, I could try that. Can the 600 use color and black ink at the same > time? > yes. It has 2 cartridges: one black and another which has 3 bays. When I print latex documents containing color images the black is black and the colors come out just fine. > Also would you mind sending me your gs

Re: driver for Epson Stylus 300

1998-01-07 Thread James A . Treacy
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 10:38:15PM +0100, David Frey wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 6 1998 12:18 +0100 "Meskes, Michael" writes: > > > I'm not sure about uniprint but the stcolor driver usage in magicfilter > > > is outdated, i.e. it uses options no longer avalaible in gs-aladin.

Re: Is there a maintainer for the install doc?

1998-01-08 Thread James A . Treacy
> > Is anyone maintaining the Debian installation manual? > > I know that Sven is no longer doing it. If not, > > we will need a volunteer. > > I'd like to maintain it. I plan to be active on the [snip] Great! One change that is needed is to change lines such as rawrite2.exe to rawrite2.exe T

Re: perl5.004 for bo

1998-01-08 Thread James A . Treacy
David Morton wrote: > On 08-Jan-98 Martin Schulze wrote: > > If all people who have noticed the lack are behaving like you did, no > > wonder why there isn't such a perl update. > > > EXCUSE ME?? Ok, I already said I was not attacking anyone, but stating > that I was upset. Maybe it's not

we need a Package Checker

1998-01-08 Thread James A . Treacy
Suggestion: package checker It is currently possible to have packages installed which do not comply with Debian policy. A lot of these could be avoided if we simply did some kind of check on every package before we allowed it into the distribution. Here is the framework for a simple, flexible wa

Re: Is there a maintainer for the install doc?

1998-01-08 Thread James A . Treacy
> > One change that is needed is to change lines such as > > rawrite2.exe > > to > > rawrite2.exe > > I am afraid this is the shortcoming of debiandoc-sgml which generates the > text > and html versions. Should I manually (using a script) change the URLs after > generating the html version? >

Re: GGI first release

1998-01-09 Thread James A . Treacy
Now that they have something running, one thing I'd like to know is how fast it is. Have they done any tests comparing it to XFree86? - Jay -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Debian logo license still not resolved

1998-01-09 Thread James A . Treacy
Another person has requested use of the Debian logo. As most people are pretty happy with the license I added a clause saying the logo is usable under the current license (http://www.debian.org/logos/logo.html. Update should reach there soon) until 31 January 1998 and told him he could use it under

New official mirrors

1998-01-10 Thread James A . Treacy
Debian has it's newest official mirror. This one is in Korea. We now have a mirror on the mainland of Asia (yeah, I know that Japan in in Asia too). South America and Africa are being difficult. It'll be really be nice when we get our first official mirror in space though. Anybody got connections w

faqomatic needs a leader

1998-01-10 Thread James A . Treacy
I used the term leader for lack of a better term. For those that don't know, faqomatic is a program for creating web pages to distribute information. What makes it interesting is that users can add information to the pages if the creator wishes. Each page has a 'maintainer' who has total control

Re: New official mirrors

1998-01-10 Thread James A . Treacy
> >Debian has it's newest official mirror. This one is in Korea. We now > >have a mirror on the mainland of Asia (yeah, I know that > >Japan in in Asia too). South America and Africa are > >being difficult. It'll be really be nice when we get > >our first official mirror in space though. > >Anybody

Re: Constitution - formal proposal (v0.6)

1998-04-07 Thread James A . Treacy
> > 3.) A minor modification to section A.1 will make the order of > > events cleaner and easier to code regarding acceptance of formal > > amendments. I suggest the following: > > 3. If a formal amendment is not accepted, it remains as an amendment > > and is voted on. > > 4. If

Re: Automation of constitutional procedures

1998-04-08 Thread James A . Treacy
> This is precisely the aspect I disagree with. There are a number of > problems with this kind of thing. > > Firstly, with an automated system developers' abilities to do things > will be dependent on the bot's interpretation of what is allowed - the > bot becomes the governor of the procedure r

Aiding the constitutional procedure [was Re: Automation of the constitutional procedure]

1998-04-08 Thread James A . Treacy
When you have been through hundreds of meetings, one of the things you learn is that communication is extremely important. It is critical to know what people's intentions are. Critical to know what the current state of affairs are. It is the normally the job of the chair of a meeting to make decisi

Re: Aiding the constitutional procedure [was Re: Automation of the constitutional procedure]

1998-04-09 Thread James A . Treacy
> While I agree with the merrits of your previous arguments, I don't see > what this has to do with the constitution. The secretary has "powers" > which allow the secretary to execute that office. > As long as section 4.2.5 is not violated then you are quite right. I was simply over-reacting to t

Re: Aiding the constitutional procedure [was Re: Automation of the constitutional procedure]

1998-04-17 Thread James A . Treacy
Ian Jackson wrote: > Section 4.2(5) is violated only if the Secretary requires developers > to propose motions &c by mailing their bot in a special format, rather > than by posting a normal message to debian-devel (or whatever other > list we end up using). > > The Secretary can of course maintain

Re: Blender 3D

1998-04-19 Thread James A . Treacy
I maintain the mesa package. As no packages (before this) depended on a libc5 version of mesa, I stopped including them. Adding them back seems like a step backwards. It would be much better if you could get blender recompiled with libc6 based libs. Jay Treacy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Blender 3D

1998-04-19 Thread James A . Treacy
Maintainer: James A. Treacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: all Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/graphics/mesa-doc_2.6-3.deb

Re: Intent to package moxa radius

1998-04-23 Thread James A . Treacy
> If you ask RMS, MANY licenses are not "free enough", including BSD, > Artistic, and others. DFSG is not free enough for him, yet you can do > more with one of the other licenses. Interesting how that works out. > > RMS is pushing an ideal more than anything. > Please don't get into an argument

Re: Mirror of Incoming

1998-04-24 Thread James A . Treacy
> There's one here: > > ftp://ftp.lh.umu.se/pub/linux/debian-Incoming > Added. > Maybe some list of such mirrors could be added to the Developper's > Corner ? > from developers_corner.html: There are a number of mirrors of Debian's Incoming directory I am working on reorganizing the Developer

Re: Mirror of Incoming

1998-04-24 Thread James A . Treacy
> ftp://ftp.lh.umu.se/pub/linux/debian-Incoming > Actually it was already on the list... Jay Treacy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

disappearance of dists/stable link from ftp archive

1998-04-28 Thread James A . Treacy
The link dists/stable -> ../bo has disappeared from the ftp archive. According to the dists/README, this is supposed to be the canonical way to access the different distributions. Having something like the stable link disappear without any notice makes it rather difficult to keep the web pages wor

Re: Maybe alpha should be in hamm? (was: Re: Only m68k and i386 in hamm?)

1998-04-29 Thread James D. Freels
done. > >A very good point. It's hard to know when you've achieved something >if you haven't picked out a measuring stick beforehand. > >So what do people think of the status of the boot disks? > >Mike. > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: on forming a new Linux Distributionx

1998-05-01 Thread James A . Treacy
Raul Miller wrote: > On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 11:32:00AM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: > > > The patent expires in August. > > Rev. Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You think nobody is going to try and snatch it then? > > Er.. how do you snatch an expired patent? > Patents have a finite

Re: Install doc ready for testing ;-)

1998-04-20 Thread James A . Treacy
The web version should be hierarchical. I have created a sample version which can be viewed at http://www.debian.org/~treacy/install/ . This has some additional changes to better describe the different possible installation routes. Note that it does not include all the changes you made. Hopefully

Debian GNU/Linux: Best of the Web! (fwd)

1998-04-21 Thread James A . Treacy
For those few of you who don't read http://slashdot.org, the Mining Co has posted their Linux "Best of the Net" site awards. Debian was number 1. I'd never heard of this company before, but am not adverse to any good publicity for Debian. The awards page is at http://linux.miningco.com/library/awar

Re: More on icons for packages

2005-01-27 Thread James A. Treacy
le to use them. -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-20 Thread Scott James Remnant
init" changes. It doesn't always get it right, in fact it probably more often gets it wrong, but it can help a little. Scott -- Scott James Remnant Ubuntu Down Under -- 25th - 30th April 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vibe Rushcutters, Sydney, Australia signatur

Re: intend-to-implement: script to obtain Debian Source

2005-03-31 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 17:40 +1000, Steve Kowalik wrote: > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:54:01 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen uttered > > TTBOMK, he hasn't discussed this with the dpkg maintainer, nor has he > > made his code public. > > > Er, Adam Heath has made plenty of uploads of dpkg, > Hasn't made any in

Re: intend-to-implement: script to obtain Debian Source

2005-03-31 Thread Scott James Remnant
this with the dpkg maintainer, nor has he > > | > made his code public. > > | > > | Er, Adam Heath has made plenty of uploads of dpkg, and is listed as an > > | Uploader. > > > > Yes, but (again, TTBOMK) he still hasn't discussed it with Scott James > > R

Re: Bug#250202: Standardizing make target for 'patch' and 'upstream-source'

2005-03-31 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 11:37 +0200, David Schmitt wrote: > To prepare the sourcecode for inspection and/or minor modifications an > additional argument for debian/rules would fit well into the current model. > > Calling "debian/rules prepare" should leave the tree in a state where the > source

definition of "use"

2005-04-26 Thread James William Pye
not *self evident* that 'use' constitutes the exercising/enjoyment of the bundle of rights given to the owner of copyrighted works by U.S.C. Title 17 Chapter 1[2]. So, what is the definition of the word 'use'? Does it *only* mean to execute a program? Or to *only* read a book

Re: definition of "use"

2005-04-26 Thread James William Pye
ate/familiar environment or in a > school; and in the case of a computer library, the execution of its API > by other programs. I think one could safely say that of "usar" in the context of Brazilian law, but, apparently, not of "use" in the context of U.S. copyright law and Title 17. -- Regards, James William Pye

Re: definition of "use"

2005-04-27 Thread James William Pye
nition. I think I will post it to debian-legal, as well as license-discuss, looking for criticisms. -- Regards, James William Pye -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
[I am not subscribed to debian-devel, please Cc: me if you feel your reply deserves my attention.] On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 10:10 +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jun 2005, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > > > > The basics of the new format are: > > > * Multiple upstream tarballs are supp

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 09:18 +0100, Simon Huggins wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 08:30:07AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > It's no harder to backport dpkg-dev than it is debhelper; so I think > > it really just comes down to what formats the FTP masters (and dear >

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 11:20 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 08:30:07AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > > Historically we always wanted to be able to use all the source in the > > > archive with the tools available in stable. If that policy is

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 11:50 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:39:30AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > > Yes, that's what we mean. The reason is that for various things (e.g., > > > buildd, ftp-mastery, ...), we need to be able to manipu

Re: SElinux and GNU/kFreeBSD or GNU/Hurd

2005-06-15 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 16:19 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > If you have a package that depends on libselinux1-dev or if you intend > to upload such a package, please find below the correct way(tm) to add > SElinux support: > > * debian/control or debian/control.in (or even debian.control.in.in) >

Re: ~ in package versions

2005-06-15 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 00:32 +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Adam Heath [Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:47:39 -0500]: > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > It was that such package versions could not be used *before* sarge > > > released, > > > not that they would be supported immediately *

Re: ~ in package versions

2005-06-15 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 14:36 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 12:00:43AM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote: > > I just wanted to confirm my recollection that now that stable has been > > released > > with support for ~ in package versions in dpkg and apt, we can now use ~ in >

Re: Debian concordance

2005-06-16 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 17:20 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > So, maybe it's time to revisit the weaknesses of the shlibs system, > particularly as they apply to glibc. Scott James Remnant had done some > poking in this area about a year ago, which involved tracking when > indivi

Re: Debian concordance

2005-06-17 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 09:32 +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 12:15:25AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 08:07:34AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 04:26:36AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > &

Re: Debian concordance

2005-06-19 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sat, 2005-06-18 at 11:35 -0500, Ian Murdock wrote: > "Debian packages just work" has been a truism for *years*, and it's been > one of our key technical selling points. I don't want to see that fall > by the wayside. This thread is a perfect example of what will happen > if we don't worry about

Re: Debian concordance

2005-06-19 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 11:42 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Scott James Remnant wrote: > > Walking up to a "man on the street", if anything, you'll find Debian has > > a far worse reputation than RPM and RedHat-derived distributions. The > > general feeling is that

Re: Reclaiming automake

2006-06-26 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 19:11 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: > Scott James Remnant dropped me an email recently, interested in > improving the automake situation in Ubuntu and Debian[0]. > > [0] Their plan, which mirrors mine, is documented here: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomakeTrans

Re: Reclaiming automake

2006-06-30 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 19:37 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: > * Scott James Remnant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 19:11 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: > > > > > Scott James Remnant dropped me an email recently, interested in > > > improving the

Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System

2006-07-17 Thread Scott James Remnant
el announcing the changes to the PTS before we started sending, so as not to surprise anyone -- they are being sent now (assuming everything works ) Scott -- Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System

2006-07-19 Thread Scott James Remnant
r scottwatcher script that's feeding the Debian PTS ... when this isn't the case. Scott -- Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System

2006-07-19 Thread Scott James Remnant
On 2006-07-17 20:39, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > The Ubuntu distribution will be the first to make use of this new feature -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-10 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 11:15 +1100, Cameron Hutchison wrote: > dpkg first removes foo-modules_1.0 > dpkg then check dependencies of foo-modules_2.0 > dpkg complains that foo-utils is not installed and aborts the > installation of foo-modules_2.0 > This is incorrect. dpkg doesn't remove foo-module

Re: System snapshots

2005-01-10 Thread Scott James Remnant
al article > "Transactions and Rollback with RPM" by James Oden, > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7034>. > > Such feature would be nice to have in Debian as well. If you have a > very short upgrade window, where one will have to abort and roll back > if the u

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-10 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 01:35 -0500, William Ballard wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:16:01AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > dpkg doesn't remove foo-modules_1.0 at all. > Note that I said "remove", the old files are replaced during the unpack phase rather th

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-11 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 01:58 -0500, William Ballard wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:53:57AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 01:35 -0500, William Ballard wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:16:01AM +, Scott James Remnant wro

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-11 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 18:51 +1100, Cameron Hutchison wrote: > Once upon a time Scott James Remnant said... > > On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 11:15 +1100, Cameron Hutchison wrote: > > > > > dpkg first removes foo-modules_1.0 > > > dpkg then check dependencies of foo-modu

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-11 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 19:30 +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > * Scott James Remnant [Tue, Jan 11 2005, 08:19:21AM]: > > > > dpkg complains that foo-utils is not installed and aborts the > > > installation of foo-modules_2.0 > > > > > dpkg does not abort the i

Re: dselect and its help messages

2005-01-12 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 11:19 +0100, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > > dpkg (1.10.26) unstable; urgency=low > > * Revert to current 'stable' behaviour of Space/Enter/'Q' in the dselect > > help screen, Space leaves the help screen and Enter and 'Q' do nothing. > > It's dangerous to encourage us

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-12 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 21:57 -0800, Michael K. Edwards wrote: > What would be the impact on (c)debootstrap of changing the operation > of dpkg? > Forget the impact on debootstrap, the impact on APT and dselect is pretty huge. dpkg is designed to be able to unpack packages while their dependencies

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-12 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 18:28 +, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > What's interesting is nobody has jumped in on this thread to point out > > that dpkg *has* a dependency field for forcing checking of dependencies >

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-12 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 12:26 -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Wednesday 12 January 2005 11:52 am, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > It's breaking elegance to fix something I'm not convinced is a problem. > > Just to be clear: you mean the elegance of the dpkg code, not

Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-12 Thread Scott James Remnant
The stats: 8,920 source packages in Debian unstable main. 8,254 declare a build-dependency on debhelper = 92% of packages build-depend on debhelper. Is that sufficient to declare it build-essential? The downside: Package: debhelper Depends: perl (>= 5.6.0-16), coreutils | fileutil

Re: dselect and its help messages

2005-01-12 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 14:00 +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 03:20:19PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > The change *to* Enter was the thing that broke dselect for those of us > > who have been using it since woody and earlier. Switching back to the > > old behaviour unbroke it

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-13 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 17:06 +, Darren Salt wrote: > I demand that Scott James Remnant may or may not have written... > > [snip] > > And a far better solution to the "a package on disk needs dependencies" > > solution is for a command-line tool that can grab

Re: Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 17:21 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Frank KÃster > > | That's correct from the point of view of a buildd, or of a developer > | running a sid machine. But it is not correct for backporters: Imagine > | that packages are added to build-essential, or versioned dependencie

Re: Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 18:44 +0100, Frank KÃster wrote: > Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In effect, if you're building unstable packages on stable, the first > > thing you should build is unstable's build-essential. > > Are you kidd

Re: Reboot in postinst

2005-01-21 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 11:03 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On 20 Jan 2005 14:45:52 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >Yes. Debian packages are supposed to be able to be installed and > >start working without requiring any reboots. We've made this work > >pretty well for libc

Re: Do all frontends use the dpkg binary?

2005-01-23 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 18:19 +0100, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > On Sun, Jan 23, 2005 at 06:11:42PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: > > > In my quest to log package installation, I wrote a wrapper script for > > > dpkg. > > > > $ tail -1 /etc/apt/apt.conf > > DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs {"logger -t D

Re: changes file format

1995-10-23 Thread James A. Robinson
> Just out of curiosity, does the following represent a horribly > formatted and human-unreadable package announcement? Except for > the lack of a Priority field, it passes the dchanges(1) syntax check. Very nice! I think it looks quite good. I also happen to like seeing the MD5SUM and file si

Re: changes file format

1995-10-24 Thread James A. Robinson
> I completely fail to understand why anyone is promoting this format. > > It is ugly, and my format is machine readable too. But Ian, almost _any_ format can be made machine readable -- but Bill's format is _easily_ machine readable -- you could slap together a whole bunch of ways to read it.

Re: Debian for Linux/{non-i386} / source packaging

1995-10-31 Thread James A. Robinson
> I'll go further and say that I think that any approach that does not > include as one of its goals the ability to work with totally virgin source > archives is a total waste of time because it doesn't buy us enough to > justify the work. Now hold on a second there! What about packages put tog

Bug#1832: Tar dumps core: film at 11

1995-11-10 Thread James D. Freels
t;Austin > I have reported this as a bug earlier. Just recently I discovered a workaround. For instance, if the user id on the remote machine is foo, then type tar -cvf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:9Nov95.tar /home and it will work correctly. Maybe that is the correct way to do it? -- /-

Bug#1804: manpage of irc missing

1995-11-10 Thread James A. Robinson
> Package: irc > > The manpage of irc is missing. The program is IrcII, so: [lestat:~]$ apropos ircII ircII (1)- interface to the Internet Relay Chat system My personal opinion is that apropos should do fuzzy matchs to catch things like this. :) Jim

Bug#1801: tar manpage missing

1995-11-10 Thread James A. Robinson
> I am considering starting a project which would: > a) define a standard template for man pages in Linux. I know it would > appear that one already exists, but it turns out that what really, really > exists is a good overall description of what should be included in the > man pages (in /usr/doc/

Re: antisocial X11 apps: xtet42, chimera

1995-11-23 Thread James A. Robinson
> Dx -- dunno. Didn't take note when I had it open. I grepped > /var/log/messages for a bogomips figure, but that's apparently > no longer part of the startup. As I recall under earlier kernels, > it was low -- perhaps 6.something. Better than the 386 I used > to run, which was about 4.3. > >

Bug#421: unreasonable restriction on term

1995-12-09 Thread James A. Robinson
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:31:41 +0200 > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:31:41 +0200 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sven Rudolph) > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Bug#421: unreasonable restriction on term > > You

Re: symlink in /usr/include (fwd)

1995-12-10 Thread James A. Robinson
> How about installing the kernel headers directly in /usr/include, > rather than linking them into /usr/src? I always assumed this was > standard kernel practice. Apparently, I was wrong. Are there any > opinions on the subject? I doubt it would affect a lot of people. But putting the includ

Re: Bug#1979: auctex postinst is completely insane

1995-12-12 Thread James A. Robinson
> > Package: auctex > Version: 9.2y-7 > > The postinst backgrounds itself. How can you tell if it succeeds or > fails ? The postinst steps through the tex directories and generates .el code for auc-tex's use. This process can take a long time on slow machines. I decided to background it, and

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