Re: Netscape v.s. C source code

2001-05-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
lynx opened it just fine here, and so did Opera (after asking because it was an unknown MIME-type). -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: rfc1149

2001-05-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
to implement it for some time. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: Bug#96224: libgmp3: Move documentation in the -dev package

2001-05-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
opper. This package contain | libraries, so an end user don't need to know how to program this library. Sometimes, a library is installed because it is needed to fulfill a Build-dependency, not because the one installing it is interested in using it to program anything. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Adam Heath | Um, when was it decided that woody+1=sarge? When was this flamewar? It wasn't yet. aj needed a name for woody+1 and picked sarge as an interim name. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
locally. But I can't build a | new package since /usr/bin/install suddenly decided to stop working *arg* Broken fileutils - install the one in incoming or the one which went into unstable last evening. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: debian-new-packages-announce@l.d.o ?

2001-05-09 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
here to start. | Where can I collect the info? Talk to tausq who already has something which creates such a list. http://auric.debian.org/~tausq/newpkgs.html -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: Bug#110721: ITP: css-elisp -- Emacs Mode for editing Cascading Style Sheets

2001-09-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
/ , which has some features not found in the version above. (Without me remembering the differences) I started merging them (at least, I think I did) a long time ago, just tell me if you want what I have. -- Tollef Fog Heen You Can't Win

Re: pam_xauth

2001-09-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
ttp://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ -- Tollef Fog Heen You Can't Win

Re: /usr/dict/ -> /usr/share/dict/ request (bug #110632)

2001-09-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Richard Kettlewell | (I await with interest your attempt to have /etc/alternatives and | /etc/rc*.d eliminated or de-symlinked...) apt-get install file-rc does one of them: $ ls /etc/rc*.d zsh: no matches found: /etc/rc*.d $ -- Tollef Fog Heen You Can't Win

Re: ddts: notification about pt_BR-translation of the hello-debhelper description

2001-09-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
The package is the responsibility of the maintainer, and s/he has the final words on all aspects of how it should be packaged (subject to policy, of course). To me, it looks like you want this changed, which I think is a bad idea. -- Tollef Fog Heen You Can't Win

Re: reopening ECN bugreport/netbase

2001-09-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
ainst zyxel or something. ;) -- Tollef Fog Heen You Can't Win

Re: ntp gone from unstable

2001-09-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
able | i386, ia64, powerpc $ -- Tollef Fog Heen You Can't Win

Re: sysctl should disable ECN by default

2001-09-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Florian Weimer | This knife cuts both sides. Why should someone bother to forward | non-conformant packages? Because they are reserved and might be used for some useful purpose one day, which they are now. -- Tollef Fog Heen You Can't Win

Re: xplanet can use ssystem image file!

2001-09-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
ier. Or space carrier. :) -- Tollef Fog Heen You Can't Win

Re: Bug#111969: ITP: xrmap -- global vector map rendering tool for X

2001-09-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
files as well? -- Tollef Fog Heen You Can't Win

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
u want to | | Were exactly do we force them? Which debian packages do not work well | with a 2.0.x kernel? modutils, iirc. -- Tollef Fog Heen You Can't Win

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
fore I discovered it chrooted itself. -- Tollef Fog Heen You Can't Win

Re: latest gnome packages not in sid?

2001-12-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Matt Zimmerman | On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 11:13:30AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | | > * Adrian Bunk | > | | > | Really? I'm often happy and I see other maintainers that are happy when | > | they get "new upstream version" wishlist bug reports - it does sometime

Re: Preparing Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r5

2001-12-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
alled properly, but Wichert is looking into it. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Build systems (was Re: An alarming trend (no it's not flaimbait.))

2001-12-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
between DBS and dpatch, and why should I choose one or the other? -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: webrt2 packaging, anyone else?

2001-12-29 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
e upstream) please let me | know. I'd like to take it -- should I just write to the ITP and take over the packaging? -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: outdated ARM version keeps package from entering testing

2001-12-29 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
milar. It runs unstable, iirc. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: my.debian.org

2001-12-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
em to me. I'll try to get a version running as soon as possible. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: Debian installer

2001-12-31 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Steve Kowalik | It then un'tar's the base tarball into /target, makes Linux bootable if you | said it could, and then reboots. There is no base tarball for woody; it then runs debootstraps which unpacks the .debs. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just sele

Re: 2 package(s) to rebuild on i386/stable

2002-01-01 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
w anything more about them. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: [Evms-devel] EVMS: shared libraries with unversioned sonames

2002-01-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
son. Also if you | are not running as root but with fakeroot ldconfig will fail. In which case «ldconfig -n $libdir» should work just fine. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: Some thoughts about problems within Debian

2002-01-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
s anything too cryptic being asked for | desktop installation... Then you are _very_ wrong. There are too many and too complicated questions asked for a «normal user», whatever that is. You have to be interested and/or have somebody help you install Debian, else you will give up halfway. --

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
ed, even. It was a bit scary doing it to my home system which will only boot from the hard drive, no floppy, and won't boot from the cdrom, though. :) -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: Some thoughts about problems within Debian

2002-01-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
so; it will be a lot easier to do that for debian-installer than trying to whack it into the frozen boot-floppies code. :) -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: [Evms-devel] EVMS: shared libraries with unversioned sonames

2002-01-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
most people use. I know that it doesn't make your life easier, but when Hurd is the odd one out, you will often have to create tools which work on all platforms. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: apt-get reinstall all

2002-01-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
eal hard to reinstall every package installed ... dpkg -l | awk '/^i/ {print $2}' |xargs apt-get --reinstall install should work. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: 1 package(s) to rebuild on i386/stable

2002-01-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* (Martin Schulze) | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/nfs-utils/nfs-utils_0.1.9.1-1.potato1.dsc | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/nfs-utils/nfs-utils_0.1.9.1-1.potato1.tar.gz Built, test-installed and uploaded. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's

Re: apt-get reinstall all

2002-01-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* (Jacob Elder) | On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 06:05:26PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | | > dpkg -l | awk '/^i/ {print $2}' |xargs apt-get --reinstall install | > | > should work. | | Not unless every package name is <16 characters. COLUMNS=300 dpkg -l | awk '/^i/

Re: [Evms-devel] EVMS: shared libraries with unversioned sonames

2002-01-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
want to do, ldconfig _is_ the right tool for the job. What does the Hurd use instead of ldconfig? I presume that they too have to create the necessary symlinks somehow? -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* (Karl M. Hegbloom) | >>>>> "Tollef" == Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Tollef> * Wichert Akkerman | Tollef> | Previously David B Harris wrote: | Tollef> | > Well, what you're suggesting isn't really feasible ;)

Re: IBM "Key alliances" ?

2002-01-11 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Eric Van Buggenhaut | Helas, AFAIK, when IBM sells Linux, it sells RH. Nope. My T21 came with Caldera OpenLinux on it. Bought about a year ago. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: Work-needing packages report for Jan 11, 2002

2002-01-11 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
And those? |giram (#96740), offered 247 days ago | Description: 3D modeller for POV-Ray Wasn't this one supposed to be removed from the archive if no one picked it up? -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: Work-needing packages report for Jan 11, 2002

2002-01-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Adrian Bunk | On 11 Jan 2002, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | | >... | > |giram (#96740), offered 247 days ago | > | Description: 3D modeller for POV-Ray | > | > Wasn't this one supposed to be removed from the archive if no one | > picked it up? | | Why? | | - t

Re: Bug#128795: suck: Incomplete uninstall

2002-01-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Paul Martin | reassign 128795 suck | thanks I disagree, obviously. Taking this to debian-devel, since I doubt we can agree. Therefore quoting a fair bit as well. | On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 08:32:02PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: | > On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 08:51:20PM +0100, Tollef Fog H

Re: Bug#139945: ITP: prokyon3 -- a multithreaded MP3 manager and tag editor for Linux.

2002-04-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
#x27;t tried it myself, so I'm not sure it'll work. :) -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian's problems, Debian's future

2002-04-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
e the deb package and add more information to it. (And have apt-ftparchive not include all the information from the control file into the packages file.) Is this about correct? -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Spelling bug: publically versus publicly

2002-04-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
Gazette. wordnet - Electronic lexical database of English language wordnet-base - Electronic lexical database of English language wordnet-dev - Electronic lexical database of English language wordnet-doc - Documentation for WordNet. : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ > -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendl

Re: dpkg triggers

2002-04-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
eter (emacs, python), for instance. This is currently solved by running /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-package-install in postinst. Python isn't really solved in a clean way. I would love to see this, it could make a lot of things _much_ cleaner and easier. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user

Re: Bug#140349: ITP: cvs-conf -- Manage your configuration files via CVS

2002-04-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
on a per-directory basis. See #10448 and #15516 (and my comments to them). -- Tollef Fog Heen, CVS maintainer Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#140349: ITP: cvs-conf -- Manage your configuration files via CVS

2002-04-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* martin f krafft | > See #10448 and #15516 (and my comments to them). | | we're talking about the PreservePermissions configuration option, | which is something different. i should have been more clear. Uhm, that is actually just not enabled. I might enable it post-woody. -- To

Re: Orphaned packages in testing which were never in stable

2002-04-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
corba? To what degree should it require authentication and other security measures? -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#140349: ITP: cvs-conf -- Manage your configuration files via CVS

2002-04-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* martin f krafft | also sprach Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.04.08.1943 +0200]: | > | we're talking about the PreservePermissions configuration option, | > | which is something different. i should have been more clear. | > | > Uhm, that is actually just not e

Re: David D.W. Downey - Old Key 42D8F306 Signed by New Key C5A76BF6

2002-04-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
ave you done anything that I can't do as well right now? I | mean, I can download your old key, create a new one, and do all you | have outlined? I would believe you don't have access to put material on *.codecastle.com? -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selectiv

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
ww.acl.lanl.gov/linuxbios/ -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: David D.W. Downey - Old Key 42D8F306 Signed by New Key C5A76BF6

2002-04-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* christophe barbé | On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 11:02:15AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > * Manoj Srivastava | > | > | David> 4) Posted the NEW public key (C5A76BF6) to the following: | > | David> 1) public keyservers | > | David> 2) debia

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Russell Coker | Please make amends for your error by flaming Lasse again and doing it | properly. ;) Please excuse David -- he's still in the NM queue and haven't learnt all the flame-throwing tips&tricks yet. :) -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just

Re: L10n of Debconf templates

2002-04-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
ource packages have translated Debconf templates, | but only 71 in separate files. Since most people have forgotten this email, I'm quoting it in full. Would anybody weep if we deprecated putting all the translations in one file? -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just sele

Re: Bug#515154: ITP: gitg -- git repository viewer for gtk+/GNOME

2009-02-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
27;s | sortable. If you use $vers~$ymd.git.$sha or something like that, please do make sure the version number slightly bigger than zero. Having version numbers that are positive and less than 0 sometimes breaks tools. -- Tollef Fog Heen Redpill Linpro -- Changing the game! t: +47 21 54 41 73

Re: Bug#515154: ITP: gitg -- git repository viewer for gtk+/GNOME

2009-02-16 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Dmitrijs Ledkovs | 2009/2/15 Gunnar Wolf | > | > Tollef Fog Heen dijo [Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 06:42:37PM +0100]: | > > | when i've had to do this in the past i think i did something like | > > | ~.git.. this way you get lots of relevant info, the | > > | fact th

Re: Emdebian version strings and the BTS

2009-02-16 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
g the bugs actually exists in Debian in the first place. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: craetion of /srv/ftp or /home/ftp by a ftpserver.deb

2009-02-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
-- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-11 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
to compile stuff against those paths anyway. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
ms to have {,usr}/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ in it (but after /lib and /usr/lib), so I suspect the file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d isn't needed? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Stephen Gran | Put another way, I can't think of a valid use for an amd64 binary | depending on a ppc32 binary. Package: foo Depends: sed (sed is Essential: yes, but I think you get the point.) -- Tollef Fog Heen Redpill Linpro -- Changing the game! t: +47 21 54 41 73 -

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] William Pitcock | Have you looked into ext2linux? It is intended to supercede lilo. I | think your usage requirements will be satisfied by it. It does not appear to exist in Debian? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBS

Re: Yes, we have bugs

2009-04-15 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Luca Niccoli | But what if I don't need hotplugging? Why should I bear hal flaws if I | don't need its features? A machine without USB or PCI is not a particularly common sight those days. Heck, even machines without SATA are becoming uncommon. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is use

Re: HTTPS everywhere!

2014-06-21 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
mething which is not possible with > GANDI/CAcert or any other non-Debian-managed CAs. Either cert pinning or DTLSA records would be better solutions here. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ.

Re: HTTPS everywhere!

2014-06-21 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
ntermediate CAs which are even > less trustworthy... I wouldn't worry a lot here. If they are completely untrustworthy, I'd like to see bugs with documentation for that statement being filed so we can fix it. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky a

Re: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

2014-06-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Thomas Goirand > +1 for keeping the name which is funny No, it's not. It's offensive to those of us who spend time on making systemd integration in Debian be as good as possible. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To

Re: systemd-shim [Re: How to avoid stealth installation of systemd?]

2014-07-01 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
n making 208 hit unstable once 204-9 is in testing, and then follow up with newer versions once we deem they are ready. Cc-ed to systemd-shim@packages so those maintainers are explicitly aware. Cheers, -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To

Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
provide native units for each init system. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/8761jdphga@aexonyam.err.no

Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
being RC. > If you can't or don't want to code systemd support, please add a "Breaks:". No, that's not ok. Not supporting an init system (with some exceptions) is not ok for Jessie. This means that if your daemon relies on using /etc/inittab to start you, you have a

Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now

2014-07-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
k for all the systemd maintainers) bear no ill will against non-systemd users and will try to avoid breaking stuff for them, but it's also a use case we don't hit, so breakage there is less likely to be seen by us. We'll do our best to fix it when reported, of course. Cheers, -- Tollef

Re: Search for porterbox machines on the command line

2014-07-10 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
gt; > > Just as ick, DNS is the place for service aliases. > > > > And how do you propose to deal with the ssh fingerprint mess when the dns > > is updated? > > There is an RFC 4255 [1] that proposes a solution by storing the > fingerprint in DNS as well. Maybe some

Re: let missing-debian-source-format lintian tag be a warning!

2014-07-16 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
that has very little value for anybody and a not-insignificant cost. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/8738e1i2dg@xoog.err.no

Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-16 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
[2]: http://people.debian.org/~biebl/systemd-transition/init-system-helper-step1.diff [3]: http://people.debian.org/~biebl/systemd-transition/sysvinit.diff [4]: http://people.debian.org/~biebl/systemd-transition/init-system-helper-step2.diff [5]: http://people.debian.org/~biebl/systemd-transition/grub

Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-16 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
> > What are the reasons behind are you going for required and not standard? A Priority: required package (init) isn't allowed to depend on something with Priority: standard per policy. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are --

Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-16 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ansgar Burchardt > Tollef Fog Heen writes: > > So we are proposing the following scheme: > > > > a/ Upload a new "init" package. This is a new, essential package that > > will replace sysvinit as the package that ensures your system has an > >

Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-17 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Harald Dunkel > On 07/16/14 23:22, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > So we are proposing the following scheme: > > > > a/ Upload a new "init" package. This is a new, essential package that > > will replace sysvinit as the package that ensures your system has

Re: Where to upload official OpenStack Debian images?

2014-07-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
How big are they? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://

Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-19 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
just yet another > instance of the bogus "HTTP is obsolete" idea? There are lots of attack vectors. It's not a response to a single attack being exploited in the wild. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-19 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
e of the bogus "HTTP is obsolete" idea? > > > > There are lots of attack vectors. It's not a response to a single > > attack being exploited in the wild. > > So name one? To pick a random example off a web page: http://ghantoos.org/2012/10/21/cocktail-of

Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-20 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
nonfree.gz wheezy > > The problem here is not the idea that someone might MITM > people.debian.org and provide something useless. The problem is a > culture of people who run random code off the web without checking what > it does. That is also a problem, yes. Using HTTP makes

Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing

2014-07-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
lly works well for the people who use the default init system, after all, and there's a freeze coming up. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "u

Re: Bug#756172: ITP: ssh-cron -- cron-like job scheduler than handles ssh key passphrases

2014-07-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
ed to you. That's harder and more visible, but not impossible. BGP hijacks do happen, intentionally and not. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of &q

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-28 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
ult and it's available for all of jessie's release architectures that should be fine. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". T

Re: Results of the Bootstrap/Crossbuild Sprint

2014-08-29 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
oceeds to create the symlinks to pkg-config-crosswrapper, but I'm not sure if there are other problems with that approach, so I need to investigate it a bit. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-de

Re: Raising priority of Debian packages

2014-08-31 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
's decision. You might want to read https://release.debian.org/jessie/rc_policy.txt . It does not include anything about package priorities, from what I can tell. (It also seems to need updating with at least an s/wheezy/jessie/ in a few places). -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly,

Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
and up to now the only fix seems to be to > reduce security by resorting to keys typed in at boot time. You make the assumption that there's not been an tries to resolve this, which is wrong. As for security, well, I have a keyscript that unlocks my boot drive just fine, but handled through

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-09 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
ng kvm -snapshot or similar functionality? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: h

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-09 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez > On 09/09/14 22:18, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > ]] Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez > > > >> But if you don't (Is not uncommon to have servers on remote locations > >> that are only accessible via ssh) and the machine don't b

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-11 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
It works pretty well. :) Telnet has the nice feature of telling you what's happening (trying to connect, connected, etc), something nc needs -v to do. Purely a convenience/finger macro problem of course, but I suspect telnet's being used because people have typed it for the better part

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Josh Triplett > - mlocate. We don't need a "locate" in standard; anyone who actually > uses locate (and wants the very significant overhead of running a > locate daemon) can easily install this. There is no «locate daemon» in mlocate. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNI

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Josh Triplett > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > ]] Josh Triplett > > > > > - mlocate. We don't need a "locate" in standard; anyone who actually > > > uses locate (and wants the very significant overhead of running a > > > locate daem

Re: bash exorcism experiment ('bug' 762923 & 763012)

2014-10-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
hmetics. > > The good part about mksh i̲s̲ that it’s a programming language, > a nice one to use, much more legible than Perl, besides having > “set -x” beats them all; You're aware of PERLDB_OPTS='AutoTrace NonStop' perl -d foo.pl ? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendl

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-15 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
d with any systemd developers? Your experience doesn't match mine at all. > But again, we pull away from my first point - as a sysadmin, what I can > see is that my systemd box has crippled text logs, and the point is > that's not worthy of the quality that we're all accus

Re: Pre-Depends: init-system-helpers

2014-11-20 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
ou reboot. It > doesn't affect postinst scripts. Using update-rc.d is not a solution. Have your policy-rc.d call update-rc.d disable too. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists

Re: The future of non-dependency-based boot

2012-04-10 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
should just be fixed in initscript instead. There's no good reason for it to not clean up after itself. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "uns

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
x27;t recall having heard the term GLR parser before. Maybe I'm unique in that respect, but I doubt it. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: [pkg-lighttpd] Changing the default document root for HTTP server

2012-04-15 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
bconf at priority low and get asked about it» and we'll get huge flame wars. It's just not a good idea. I'd rather we just either added an excemption for /var/www or moved it to /var/lib/www as Russ suggested. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who

Re: Volunteer-initiated team maintenance as a solution for packages with low activity

2012-04-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
. I'd rather it went to the tech-ctte and we'd just do the technical implementation (mark whoever as a project admin). I certainly don't want to get dragged into what'll easily become personal and political conflicts which do not intersect with me personally or my areas of inter

Re: The future of non-dependency-based boot

2012-04-19 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
ling. (And this machine has never even used sysvinit.) -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian

Re: The future of non-dependency-based boot

2012-04-19 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
especially when said complaining is in the form of a debconf error on each and every upgrade of the package. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of &q

Re: Bug#669426: ITP: python-django-evolution -- Django extension that allows tracking of changes in models over time

2012-04-19 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Dmitry Nezhevenko > This is where Django Evolution fits in. Django Evolution is an > extension to Django that allows you to track changes in your models > over time, and to update the database to reflect those changes. How does it compare with South? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNI

Bug#664257: multiarch tuples are not documented/defined

2012-04-20 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
R, the FHS and the LSB has a bug tracker, so while filing those might does not guarantee they'll be fixed, it won't just get dropped on the floor either. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-re

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